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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by kolomax(m): 10:29pm On Oct 18, 2014
maylisa:
fool you don't know me and sure you should know I can't argue with a fish brain like you. For your information its only in madina that is very strict because that is where prophet Mohammed was buried.
you've actually tell me who you are by insulting me that aside no place in saudi Arabia that females don't cover there heads the least you could do is to use a scarf...stop confusing yourself with egypt,morroco.turkey,syria,afghanistan arabs they are the one that don't make the use of hijab compulsory but in saudi Arabia You must be joking even the xtain among them normally use it..na wa ooo people wey never reach airport before go come they form for use

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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by 4har5y: 10:49pm On Oct 18, 2014
[b][/b]OPINION
I'm neither in support nor am I really in opposition to the court's verdict on this issue. My reason being every "human law" is error-bound-- Don't be surprise if this same case is won at the court of appeal (i.e the ban being lifted). It all depends on the perspective of the Judge handling the case (and ofcourse the counsels involved).

But the following is important...

Why would the case get to court in the 1st place?

Why and how was the ban (on Hijab) placed in the 1st instance?

Is the use of this Hijab a new thing in these schools? I mean did they just start wearing it?

Was the ban placed immediately the usage started?

Or the "authority" just woke one day and said: there has to be an end to this?

We can keep asking these questions, keep giving different views and opinion, keep arguing on & on & on till thy kingdom come.

We'll still not arrive at a conclusion. No way forward.

But I blame all of these on two things:

INTOLERANCE AND IGNORANCE of the average Nigerian.

***TOLERANCE
If TOLERANCE does exist in the system, the use of Hijab won't be a problem in the 1st place, Bcuz I personal believe its not hindering any non- muslim from sticking to his/her belief. #NoHarmCaused
And if we wanna talk uniformity among the students, the government could just say: OK, u wanna wear Hijab, fine, but the color of ur Hijab must not differ from the school uniform. This alone will do the magic and peace will reign. #NoOneIsLosing.


***IGNORANCE
We all hear this quote a lot.

"If you want to hide something from a Black man, put it in writing (or in a book )".

We Nigerians (myself inclusive) are too lazy to read.
We are not ready to learn new things.
We listen to answer & not to understand.
We are too quick to criticize.
We are too SENTIMENTal.
We are not ready to know the TRUE teachings of other religion or belief.

I read some comments above and I wonder if some people actually know anything about Islam. They Judge Islam based on what a muslim (by name & not by character) does...

We know very little, yet we argue (blindly) a lot. The worst part is, we call others ignorant when it actually is what we are.

*My advice to Muslims:
Please try and "show" the world what are the TRUE teachings of Islam. Some muslims (by name) hardly pray the five obligatory prayers, they know very little (or nothing) about Islam, yet when issues like this comes up, they wanna make (blind) arguments. They claim to be muslims.

CONCLUSION
The only way forward is to learn how to TOLERATE others-- Every religion (that I know of) teaches this. It will do this Nation a great help.
We should always be neutral in our dealings with others and have in-depth knowledge of both our religion and that of others, this will not only reduce un-necessary argument (& insults) but bring peace to all parties.

I rest my case...
#peace

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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by masqot(m): 10:49pm On Oct 18, 2014
BetaThings:

So why do we have
"So help me God" in the National Pledge?
Or is CRK not taught in public schools?

Why is it that Muslims never object to whatever Christians want while
Christians get agitated whenever Muslims want anything

Let me see how objective you are
Can we have?
Workdays as Mondays to Fridays 1st half of the year and
Sundays to Thursdays - 2nd half of the year
OR
Workdays as Mondays to Fridays odd number years
Sundays to Thursdays - even number years

Not dragging issues here. I don't comment on religious matters but maybe because I got 14 likes (maybe the highest since I got on NL).
Yeah I don't know now but in the early 80s when I was in elementary schools, Christians and Muslem pupils had different classes for their religious subjects.
Secondly, I know parents that send their children to schools at a far distance from their home for religion reasons.
People go to work on Saturdays and Sundays; it's a matter of choice. If you need the job, you take it.
While organisations observe not less than 2 hrs break on Friday for Muslim brethren to pray, they as well allow Christians to hold their fellowship as well. Nobody can deprive a man of his belief.
If we look at this issue critically, we've got no issue about living together peacefully if we could realize we're first human being, made alike. In short, that we met religion on earth and we'll leave it right here. We've been highly religious tolerant set of people until foreign influences set in. This is true from the days of Moses, the days of Jihad to this dispensation when we lord religion over one another and mix religion with every other issues including politics.
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by babaaye(m): 10:54pm On Oct 18, 2014
kaka22:
What purpose does hijab serve in educating kids in school? Some people just take things to the extreme... Nobody is forcing anybody to totally stop wearing hijab but not in secular school... If this is allowed to stay, then the traditional parents also can send their children to school in masquerade attire smiley...kudos to the judge



Last bomb: We, Nigerians, should stop viewing issues or policies with religious sentiments... We(most of us) always pretend to be religious while the moral decadence is high undecided...
I can see u are christian dat is y y teacher should be beating up 12yrs old bcoz of wearing hijab it is part of culture in islam pls tink wise
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by makizee(m): 11:09pm On Oct 18, 2014
maylisa:
Please let keep sentiment aside is only in Africa that student go to school in hijab. Visit all the strong Islamic countries you dn't see student in hijab all they do is put on a decent clothing and behave well. For instance in Saudi Arabia they don't do all this just put on an abaya (long gown) with no or little shape as long as one look decent without any part of the body expose to the view of other and you cover your hair only if you wish or by the wish of your husband. This is where Islam started and they behave a kind of western. The worst is the yoruba's that a real housa or fulani man does not see them as real Muslims, that is why a yoruba cannot lead a prayer in a mosque with housa or fulani present only in abuja a no mans land. Sorry if I offend anyone with my words forgive me because all I have written is out of experienced. PEACE


Sorry o, but this very popular saying about Northern Muslims not seeing Yoruba Muslims as real muslims is just plain silly, let them see me as they please (assuming you assertion is true) who cares how others see me, as long as Allah that we all claim to worship sees me as a true muslim, i could care less what Saudis see me as...back to topic though, i am a muslim, proudly so too, but in this case common sense should prevail, even though i would have loved these muslims girls to be able to put on their hijab when and wherever they want, one cannot fault the judge on this, she's right...and to the bigots on here, i'm sure some of y'all are close to having an orgasm already, an opportunity to continue to bash islam and muslims alike, but remember, the governor and dare i say, Majority of "Lagosians" (ibile, bibi inu ilu eko) are muslims too
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by xtervaganza(m): 11:26pm On Oct 18, 2014
tit:
No hijab, no vote!
simples.
we cannot come out of purdah.
olopolo dudu
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by xtervaganza(m): 11:32pm On Oct 18, 2014
abdulabbakar:
I wonder some christians sees the use of hijab as xtremism, while the virgin mary appears in all her pictures wearing a head-scarf! angry
dumbo, the one on Mary wasn't a religious scarf like your stoopid hijab



It was her culture in Israel then



Arindin





And you don't see any Israeli woman wearing it nowadays
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by lacreamieboie(m): 11:54pm On Oct 18, 2014
4har5y:
& wat is d "outfit" of other religion?- educate me pls.
kids put on white garment to school!
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Originalsly: 12:41am On Oct 19, 2014
all4naija:

Which state is that happening?
New York...with or without uniform.
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Bodunde1now(m): 7:00am On Oct 19, 2014
tit:
No hijab, no vote!
simples.
we cannot come out of purdah.
.then stay in your purdah. Hypocrite.
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 7:01am On Oct 19, 2014
CAMNEWTON4PRES:

lie from the pit of hell, they are asked to cover their hair and dress with humility nowhere in the quran with have the word hijab or Niqab, those are arab attires which existed way before Islam, there are African veils that the muslim girls can wear, stop importing arab culture and shoving it down our throats.
hijabs for the middle east
olodo u hv never come across D word jelibab in the quran b4, i doubt even if u ar muslim. O prohet tell ur wives and ur daughters and D wives of the believing men; that they shld let down upon themselves there jalabib

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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by willibounce1(m): 7:21am On Oct 19, 2014
4har5y:
[b][/b]OPINION
I'm neither in support nor am I really in opposition to the court's verdict on this issue. My reason being every "human law" is error-bound-- Don't be surprise if this same case is won at the court of appeal (i.e the ban being lifted). It all depends on the perspective of the Judge handling the case (and ofcourse the counsels involved).

But the following is important...

Why would the case get to court in the 1st place?

Why and how was the ban (on Hijab) placed in the 1st instance?

Is the use of this Hijab a new thing in these schools? I mean did they just start wearing it?

Was the ban placed immediately the usage started?

Or the "authority" just woke one day and said: there has to be an end to this?

We can keep asking these questions, keep giving different views and opinion, keep arguing on & on & on till thy kingdom come.

We'll still not arrive at a conclusion. No way forward.

But I blame all of these on two things:

INTOLERANCE AND IGNORANCE of the average Nigerian.

***TOLERANCE
If TOLERANCE does exist in the system, the use of Hijab won't be a problem in the 1st place, Bcuz I personal believe its not hindering any non- muslim from sticking to his/her belief. #NoHarmCaused
And if we wanna talk uniformity among the students, the government could just say: OK, u wanna wear Hijab, fine, but the color of ur Hijab must not differ from the school uniform. This alone will do the magic and peace will reign. #NoOneIsLosing.


***IGNORANCE
We all hear this quote a lot.

"If you want to hide something from a Black man, put it in writing (or in a book )".

We Nigerians (myself inclusive) are too lazy to read.
We are not ready to learn new things.
We listen to answer & not to understand.
We are too quick to criticize.
We are too SENTIMENTal.
We are not ready to know the TRUE teachings of other religion or belief.

I read some comments above and I wonder if some people actually know anything about Islam. They Judge Islam based on what a muslim (by name & not by character) does...

We know very little, yet we argue (blindly) a lot. The worst part is, we call others ignorant when it actually is what we are.

*My advice to Muslims:
Please try and "show" the world what are the TRUE teachings of Islam. Some muslims (by name) hardly pray the five obligatory prayers, they know very little (or nothing) about Islam, yet when issues like this comes up, they wanna make (blind) arguments. They claim to be muslims.

CONCLUSION
The only way forward is to learn how to TOLERATE others-- Every religion (that I know of) teaches this. It will do this Nation a great help.
We should always be neutral in our dealings with others and have in-depth knowledge of both our religion and that of others, this will not only reduce un-necessary argument (& insults) but bring peace to all parties.

I rest my case...
#peace

You don't need all this epistle to try to look more intelligent than you are. Stop trying to be smart. If nobody loses anything from wearing Hijab to public schools, no one will lose anything if it's banned. Your daughters don't spend the whole day in school.. 8hours of not wearing Hijab won't kill them or make them unholy. If you have in depth knowledge of Islam, u should have simple common sense as well to accept and obey simple laws that won't kill you. They all be talking about the little girls right as if some of these girls are not forced to wear the hijab.

Will any of you Muslims allow your daughters to exercise their RIGHTS if they willingly choose not to wear the Hijab? No hijab in public schools just for the period you are within the school premises(8hours). Don't tell us she....t about how the hijab can be made to blend with school uniforms. that's total CRAAP!
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by 4har5y: 8:04am On Oct 19, 2014
willibounce1:


You don't need all this epistle to try to look more intelligent than you are. Stop trying to be smart. If nobody loses anything from wearing Hijab to public schools, no one will lose anything if it's banned. Your daughters don't spend the whole day in school.. 8hours of not wearing Hijab won't kill them or make them unholy. If you have in depth knowledge of Islam, u should have simple common sense as well to accept and obey simple laws that won't kill you. They all be talking about the little girls right as if some of these girls are not forced to wear the hijab.

Will any of you Muslims allow your daughters to exercise their RIGHTS if they willingly choose not to wear the Hijab? No hijab in public schools just for the period you are within the school premises(8hours). Don't tell us she....t about how the hijab can be made to blend with school uniforms. that's total CRAAP!
see wat I'm saying ryt here... & u have to insult before your msg is passed. Sorry, I don't do dat.
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Onyiido: 8:10am On Oct 19, 2014
donroxy:
in written or in principle ? ..... I no even know where I go begin you own case !!
My dear, it isn't by force to go to gov school. U can as well go to islamic school where u can where it so u wouldn't have anyone u'll take to court over that. Always claiming unnecessary rights
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by rabimlomo: 8:29am On Oct 19, 2014
maylisa:
fool you don't know me and sure you should know I can't argue with a fish brain like you. For your information its only in madina that is very strict because that is where prophet Mohammed was buried.
Will you ever stop lying?Only in Madinah?
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by rabimlomo: 8:39am On Oct 19, 2014
kolomax:
you've actually tell me who you are by insulting me that aside no place in saudi Arabia that females don't cover there heads the least you could do is to use a scarf...stop confusing yourself with egypt,morroco.turkey,syria,afghanistan arabs they are the one that don't make the use of hijab compulsory but in saudi Arabia You must be joking even the xtain among them normally use it..na wa ooo people wey never reach airport before go come they form for use
lol. I wonder. Some people are so good at reporting 'hearsays' like they saw it with their own eyes.

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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by donmhedi: 9:20am On Oct 19, 2014
islam is a religion dat allow us to protect our body, faith and believe. Why is it dat there is no ban on students dat wear short skirts and more over 80% of the culture in the world allow women to cover all part of their body, even the origin of christianity allow women to cover their body especially their head
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by salykely(m): 10:05am On Oct 19, 2014
The Lagos state high court hijab judgment is an aberration of section 38 of the 1999 constitution. And i entertain no doubt that the apex Court will over turn today's aberration.
Section 38
(1) Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or in private) to manifest and propagate his religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance.

I wonder if the Lagos state government is more secular than the United state whose president proudly made the following claim:
"Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one's religion...That's why the United States government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab and to punish those who would deny it.
it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit -- for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We can't disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.

Freedom of religion is central to the ability of peoples to live together. We must always examine the ways in which we protect it".

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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by oluvick(m): 10:39am On Oct 19, 2014
I don't know why some people find it hard to understand that Nigeria is a secular state. Always making issues difficult not only for themselves but others also. Haba.
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 11:06am On Oct 19, 2014
Originalsly:
New York...with or without uniform.
Okay, mutant Ninja Turtle! angry lipsrsealed
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by Nobody: 11:25am On Oct 19, 2014
Onyiido:
My dear, it isn't by force to go to gov school. U can as well go to islamic school where u can where it so u wouldn't have anyone u'll take to court over that. Always claiming unnecessary rights
u made me laugh so bad .... If the govt school could violate the constitution then it is the private school that would defend it ...... As for you claiming it is unnecessary right , it is not your fault but a syndrome of military blindedness which has eroded an average Nigeria the ability to think they have any right !!!

Still waiting for you to add some brains to your post , lady !!

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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by IYANGBALI: 12:06pm On Oct 19, 2014
pontirock:
Why Should They Be Wearing Hijab To School When It Is Not Part Of Their Uniform?
you dey mind those people?they are always looking for anymeans to cause trouble,yet they will be claiming that their religion is a religion of piss,religion of peace my foot. May sango scatter your family if you quote me because of that trouble making religion tongue
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by IYANGBALI: 12:08pm On Oct 19, 2014
oluvick:
I don't know why some people find it hard to understand that Nigeria is a secular state. Always making issues difficult not only for themselves but others also. Haba.
especially those people wey claim say their religion be the religion of piss,dem too like wahala
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by IYANGBALI: 12:12pm On Oct 19, 2014
salykely:
The Lagos state high court hijab judgment is an aberration of section 38 of the 1999 constitution. And i entertain no doubt that the apex Court will over turn today's aberration.
Section 38
(1) Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or in private) to manifest and propagate his religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance.

I wonder if the Lagos state government is more secular than the United state whose president proudly made the following claim:
"Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one's religion...That's why the United States government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab and to punish those who would deny it.
it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit -- for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We can't disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.

Freedom of religion is central to the ability of peoples to live together. We must always examine the ways in which we protect it".
we are talking about school UNIFORM,check the meaning of uniform and forget about that bullshiiiit you quoted
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by IYANGBALI: 12:14pm On Oct 19, 2014
donmhedi:
islam is a religion dat allow us to protect our body, faith and believe. Why is it dat there is no ban on students dat wear short skirts and more over 80% of the culture in the world allow women to cover all part of their body, even the origin of christianity allow women to cover their body especially their head
that is why you have moslem schools abeg go there and cover your body,mtcheeeeeew

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Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by IYANGBALI: 12:19pm On Oct 19, 2014
Onyiido:
My dear, it isn't by force to go to gov school. U can as well go to islamic school where u can where it so u wouldn't have anyone u'll take to court over that. Always claiming unnecessary rights
abeg forget those people jare,they are bunch of trouble makers,they fornicate pass fornicators
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by IYANGBALI: 12:22pm On Oct 19, 2014
willibounce1:


You don't need all this epistle to try to look more intelligent than you are. Stop trying to be smart. If nobody loses anything from wearing Hijab to public schools, no one will lose anything if it's banned. Your daughters don't spend the whole day in school.. 8hours of not wearing Hijab won't kill them or make them unholy. If you have in depth knowledge of Islam, u should have simple common sense as well to accept and obey simple laws that won't kill you. They all be talking about the little girls right as if some of these girls are not forced to wear the hijab.

Will any of you Muslims allow your daughters to exercise their RIGHTS if they willingly choose not to wear the Hijab? No hijab in public schools just for the period you are within the school premises(8hours). Don't tell us she....t about how the hijab can be made to blend with school uniforms. that's total CRAAP!
God bless you jare
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by maylisa(f): 12:49pm On Oct 19, 2014
rabimlomo:

Will you ever stop lying?Only in Madinah?
for.your information am in Saudi Arabia right now at red sea close to bab bin da wood. Never tell someone he or she is lying when you know nothing of them.
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by rabimlomo: 1:05pm On Oct 19, 2014
maylisa:
for.your information am in Saudi Arabia right now at red sea close to bab bin da wood. Never tell someone he or she is lying when you know nothing of them.

And all the girls you see there are not using the hijab?. I repeat you are a serial liar. Even in the eastern province where there are many christians, the saudis still cover their heads and most, their faces to school.
Re: Court Upholds Ban On Use Of Hijab In Lagos Public Schools by mrofficial(m): 1:34pm On Oct 19, 2014
salykely:
The Lagos state high court hijab judgment is an aberration of section 38 of the 1999 constitution. And i entertain no doubt that the apex Court will over turn today's aberration.
Section 38
(1) Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or in private) to manifest and propagate his religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance.

I wonder if the Lagos state government is more secular than the United state whose president proudly made the following claim:
"Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one's religion...That's why the United States government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab and to punish those who would deny it.
it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit -- for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We can't disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.

Freedom of religion is central to the ability of peoples to live together. We must always examine the ways in which we protect it".

You can practice your religion even in school. The constitution did not state wearing of Hijab in public school with uniform. Do the girls wear Hijab while in the bathroom?

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