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nlMediator:
Either your ignorance is oozing out or you're talking utter rubbish. WOF is not against medicine. What is wrong in God using pagan doctors? He uses pagan taxi drivers, bankers, lawyers, techies, etc. to help His children. What's different about the doctor that would make us reject him while accepting the rest?

BabaGnoni:
SMH. "eat your words" is now a threat. SMH.

Image123:
Even night brother, not only day. Majority of these fellows are just grumpy grumblers, murmurers and complainers. With nothing to offer except criticism and cheering their fellow complainers.

mbaemeka:
He takes only after drumb with his conjectures.
He will raise a notion by himself and tag it as a WOF belief then criticise the notion and begin to gloat.

mbaemeka:
He takes only after drumb with his conjectures. He will raise a notion by himself and tag it as a WOF belief then criticise the notion and begin to gloat.

Bidam:
Same with trustman.
I hardly know what denomination these guys belong to sef..
Are they attending the same seminary

BabaGnoni:
God is denomination agnostic and no, we never attended any cemetery, talkless of attending same

Bidam:
I no understand this o..cemetery ke? Ok o. God is denomination agnostic

BabaGnoni:
If all of you, wouldn't restrain yourselves from continually derailing this thread, then yall can have the last word, as I will be doing the needful.

Image123:
Drumb, demisquare, tman, candor, vook, lobby and co, when are you going to do Galatians 2 style on this Gnoni guy, or at least send him a P.M?

Lobeez:
All this talk about derailing this thread wont end until Gombs answers mt question about angels
Yeah I said it!

BabaGnoni:
^^^
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Hold on to your knickers,
no need to call up the calvary
- I've backed away

Image123:
To repent is to turn away, not back away.
You should repent of lying, instead of scheming vengeance.

BabaGnoni:
Lying? Scheming vengeance? Far from it
One minute you're rallying the calvary to send a PM
now like a dog with a bone, you just wont let it go, bringing other matters up, after saying I've backed away
Do you enjoy been mischievous, as I really don't know what your game is.

Gombs:
Gentlemen, we've derailed enough, can we get to the book?

BabaGnoni, I have seen the thread you made that comment, wonders why WinsomeX said it was Bidam's invention. No need pasting the link, I want to avoid further derailing.

Thanks. Would put up chapter 5 tomorrow!

Image123:
Twas funny when someone said to you " I FEEL LIKE SLAPPING THE DAYLIGHT OUT OF YOU!!!! It's still funny. You're pretending not to know you lied against me. As per your schemes, time will show, the Spirit of God sees the heart.

Bidam:
Same with trustman. I hardly know what denomination these guys belong to sef..Are they attending the same seminary

mbaemeka:
Read slowly, you would learn a few things. Acts 2 the AMP version.

22 Then the apostles and the elders, together with the whole church, resolved to select men from among their number and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, [both] leading men among the brethren, and sent them.

Question, if the men were sent with Paul and Barnabas did they actually travel with both men? NO

23 With [them they sent] the following letter: The brethren, both the apostles and the elders, to the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings:

They sent them with a letter that was to be read in front of all the brethren in ANTIOCH, Syria and Cilicia.

30 So when [the messengers] were sent off, they went down to Antioch; and having assembled the congregation, they delivered the letter.

Proof that indeed the letter was delivered and in the presence of all- no skirmishes recorded thus far.

31 And when they read it, the people rejoiced at the consolation and encouragement [it brought them].

Virtually everyone knew about the letter in Antioch.

So how do we factor in Galatians 2? We can do so by establishing the following facts:

1. Peter must have arrived at Antioch before those sent by James. b) those sent by James got into Antioch after Paul and Barnabas had arrived there- they didn't travel together.
2. These men must have been leaders because James sent only leaders from the entire congregation in Jerusalem.
3. This must have happened after the Acts 15 encounter because Paul called them hypocrites seeing that THEY HAD ESTABLISHED CONVICTIONS from the meeting in Jerusalem only for them to arrive at Antioch and act contrary to what was agreed.
4. The circumcision party and men from James are one and the same.

11 But when Cephas (Peter) came to Antioch, I protested and opposed him to his face [concerning his conduct there], for he was blameable and stood condemned.
12 For up to the time that certain persons came from James, he ate his meals with the Gentile [converts]; but when the men [from Jerusalem] arrived, he withdrew and held himself aloof from the Gentiles and [ate] separately for fear of those of the circumcision [party].

Peter knew about the agreement in Jerusalem and he conducted himself rightly till the sent men came.

13 And the rest of the Jews along with him also concealed their true convictions and acted insincerely, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy (their example of insincerity and pretense).

What were their true convictions? The agreement in Jerusalem. The same one's they had read out to the WHOLE CONGREGATION according to Acts 15.

14 But as soon as I saw that they were not straightforward and were not living up to the truth of the Gospel, I said to Cephas (Peter) before everybody present, If you, though born a Jew, can live [as you have been living] like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how do you dare now to urge and practically force the Gentiles to [comply with the ritual of Judaism and] live like Jews?

They had just delivered the letter to the church but then behind the scenes they acted otherwise. Paul saw the hypocrisy and corrected the chief culprit in front of EVERYBODY PRESENT- proving it was not to all and sundry.

Pray tell me, how could the rebuke have been to the hearing of the whole church or gentiles or what not when according to Acts 15 the letter was delivered to the whole church already? And if the letter was delivered to the whole church when did the men from James and Peter have the time to act hypocritically in their presence? If they did not act hypocritically in their presence (presence of the whole church), then that leaves us to conclude that the group present when Paul spoke to Peter were the leaders sent from James and this makes sense because they were the one's to bring the agreement to the church (Acts 15) only to act otherwise (Gal 2:11-14).

So kindly tell me what you are trying to say. Is it that you cannot comprehend how that the people who joined Peter in the hypocrisy were the same men that came from James as well as Barnabas (Paul's companion)? Or can you show us how

1. All the Jews in Antioch
2. Gentiles
3. James men
4. The circumcision (Outright nonsense! for the circumcision referred to the same men from James)
5. the whole church in Antioch factored into the them all. And if you cannot do it, can we also conclude that you have made another brain fart by attempting to gloat over an issue that you clearly do not understand?

As per the evidence that you said Paul corrected Peter in front of the Galatian commoners I will show it to you and expect you to apologize for either poorly phrasing your words or simply mistyping. Here is:



I believe a better way of putting what you meant is "Does it bother you that Paul had no qualms publicizing this event to the Galatia commoners long after it occurred in Antioch".

nlMediator:
Either your ignorance is oozing out or you're talking utter rubbish. WOF is not against medicine. What is wrong in God using pagan doctors? He uses pagan taxi drivers, bankers, lawyers, techies, etc. to help His children. What's different about the doctor that would make us reject him while accepting the rest?

BabaGnoni:
Sit down there, cemetery is an euphemism for seminary
- guess its now dawned on you why some call it cemetery.

mbaemeka:
He takes only after drumb with his conjectures. He will raise a notion by himself and tag it as a WOF belief then criticise the notion and begin to gloat.

Gombs:
Vooks and shedemidemi have a lot in common. I hope I'm wrong! The both hardly make sense. I hope they are not same folks, though I'm 60% certain.

vooks:
Strong meat is not for fetuses and babes

nlMediator:
Exactly, my major beef with them. Nothing to offer. Somebody is out there preaching to souls headed to hell, and they'll complain he's wearing an expensive suit. Somebody prays for the sick to get well, they complain the healings are fake. Why don't they go and do it the right way themselves? In all of these, has anybody heard them share stories of many souls they have won? Or how they have helped the sick do better, and perhaps save them from going to the fake healers? No, it's always criticize and complain and feel good. What value are they really adding to the Kingdom of God?

Gombs:
Ah! A confirmation! Vooks is shedemidemi QED

Gombs:
Now that we've come this far, mfrom the book, irrespective of the derailing the thread has endured, plus those who use extra monikers, but their line of reasoning betrays them, can we all agree that the book by Hagin was very needful at a time as these, even though the anti WoF folks seem to be innperfect churches and hence Hagin wrote the book for churches like CEC, LFC, RCCG, etc?

I'd put up chapter 9 today (hopefully), it'd then remain one last chapter. It was not surprising anti WoF guys har nothing to say about Hagin's 24 principles from the Epistles regarding money, givin and receiving-why? It caught them pants down

vooks:
Am more interested in your maturity than your ID
What was Hagin's stance on firstfruits?

Gombs:
Now that we've come this far, mfrom the book, irrespective of the derailing the thread has endured, plus those who use extra monikers, but their line of reasoning betrays them, can we all agree that the book by Hagin was very needful at a time as these, even though the anti WoF folks seem to be innperfect churches and hence Hagin wrote the book for churches like CEC, LFC, RCCG, etc?

I'd put up chapter 9 today (hopefully), it'd then remain one last chapter. It was not surprising anti WoF guys har nothing to say about Hagin's 24 principles from the Epistles regarding money, givin and receiving-why? It caught them pants down

Gombs:
I'm more interested in your sanity than your new ID. I won't go round circles, flip 4 pages back. This was how I knew you were shedemidemi.

1. Going round circles
2. Eternally confused on verses.
3. You used the same lines you used with your shedemidemi account
4. Senseless questions
5. Poor ability to hold a brilliant discussion.

Now, if you don’t mind, I've got to go prepare for work. Help me decide, an ash suit with sky blue shirt, red and white dotted tie, or a black suit with sky blue shirt and white and blue stripped tie?