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Gombs:
Someone was dishonest enough to edit his post, but someone has already quoted him! Opssss

please, after clicking, take your discussion elsewhere, BabaGnoni, you owe some folks an apology

Now, you have evidence, tell him to open a thread as you said and explain himself there, I hooe he takes correction, something hard for your camp!
Can we stick to the book now?

Pls pls Gombs, let me correct you before this goes out of hand again. Nowhere on that thread did BabaGnoni make that statement. Mbaemeka was merely cataloguing to nannymcphee what he saw as wrong teachings from BabaGnoni not solely from the WOF thread. he encapsulated all in a post and nannymcphee quoted that particular one she was interested in. She was quoting from mbaemeka's post:she wasn't quoting BabaGnoni since he didn't make that statement there hence nothing to edit there. That accusation predates the WOF thread i think. let's not confuse the issues.

If he made it elsewhere, pls look for it but it surely wasn't on that thread.

abeg let's not scatter this thread again.

Candour:
Pls pls Gombs, let me correct you before this goes out of hand again. Nowhere on that thread did BabaGnoni make that statement. Mbaemeka was merely cataloguing to nannymcphee what he saw as wrong teachings from BabaGnoni not solely from the WOF thread. he encapsulated all in a post and nannymcphee quoted that particular one she was interested in. since he didn't make that statement there, there is nothing to edit there. That accusation predates the WOF thread i think. let's not confuse the issues.

If he made it elsewhere, pls look for it but it surely wasn't on that thread.

abeg let's not scatter this thread again.

Candour, I must at this point apologize to you and say that the thread cannot continue until this Eve/Serpent matter is sorted out. Since Gombs and others will not open a thread for it, we will do it here.

Gombs pls respond to my earlier post. Provide the post BBG edited.

Gombs:
Someone was dishonest enough to edit his post, but someone has already quoted him! Opssss

please, after clicking, take your discussion elsewhere, BabaGnoni, you owe some folks an apology

Now, you have evidence, tell him to open a thread as you said and explain himself there, I hooe he takes correction, something hard for your camp!
Can we stick to the book now?

Gombs, this path you're taking, is a slippery slope ooo.
All along I've been giving you the benefit of doubt (e.g. youthful exuberance whatnot etc) but now you've begun slipping on my hand

This thing you're dragging by the leg, be careful with it ooo
With this your unsubstantiated remark "Someone was dishonest enough to edit his post" and "but someone has already quoted him! Opssss" your true colors are becoming to show through because these are half-baked poorly investigated evidences

I have noticed that instead of you to be impartial and disinterested, you have randomly joined in with perpetrators, interjecting snide remarks now and then

You've also conveniently blanked out my advice to the detractors to stop derailing the thread and go open up a separate one instead for their grievances

Any sensible or sane person can see this is a vendetta
- a bitter campaign by two disgruntled people to get their own back at someone
- they crept in remarks that had nothing to do with the thread, their veiled innuendoes were done and acted in a furtive or underhand manner
- It is not the first, second or third time of them being sneaky and conniving like this

It will not be their last either, these aren't honorable men, they aren't man enough, as they haven't got the balls to open an indepedent thread themselves but rather always resort to derailing other people's thread, when caught in a thread's offensive (i.e. military) salvo of ammunition fire.

Break a leg as Midas Touch theatre of comedy unveils the next performance intended to cause laughter

PS: @ Candour, thank you for your good observation
@WinsomeX, abi ooo, see me see trouble
@ pickabeau1, I advised him many times to moderate the thread etc, but it's the other way he chose to look

Gombs has lost focus of this thread
And i mentioned before hand you should played the role of a mediator

I like the chapter 7

Gombs i will like you to prepare a summary of each chapter, the key points as a form of recap

Please make it another thread after you have finished posting the book

WinsomeX:
Gombs, don't blame anyone for derailing your thread from now on bc you just rejected a suggestion for you to open a thread on this issue and you choose to continue the discuss.

I request Gombs to provide the link he found there.

You made a request, I obliged, na wa o

That said, please do one more thing for me, provide the link you claim BabaGnoni edited. The link nannymcphee copied the quote from.

Do it Yourself

@nannymcphee, did you quote BabaGnoni or you simply provided a statement under his name following the accusations leveled against him by Bidam and mbaemeka? Please, be honest about this; we will all stand to give account of our words before God one day.

Ah! The honest DB forming piety! Now, you're cop! Investigating! Ok o.

Candour:
Pls pls Gombs, let me correct you before this goes out of hand again. Nowhere on that thread did BabaGnoni make that statement. Mbaemeka was merely cataloguing to nannymcphee what he saw as wrong teachings from BabaGnoni not solely from the WOF thread. he encapsulated all in a post and nannymcphee quoted that particular one she was interested in. She was quoting from mbaemeka's post:she wasn't quoting BabaGnoni since he didn't make that statement there hence nothing to edit there. That accusation predates the WOF thread i think. let's not confuse the issues.

If he made it elsewhere, pls look for it but it surely wasn't on that thread.

abeg let's not scatter this thread again.

Aii bro
But BabaGnoni didn't refute the claim on the thread, rather got nannymcphee in a slap mode! I felt her fury bro

WinsomeX:
Candour, I must at this point apologize to you and say that the thread cannot continue until this Eve/Serpent matter is sorted out. Since Gombs and others will not open a thread for it, we will do it here.

Gombs pls respond to my earlier post. Provide the post BBG edited.

I won't! If you don’t want to continue the discussion on the book, please slam the door after you've used it. Thank you

Gombs:
Aii bro
But BabaGnoni didn't refute the claim on the thread, rather got nannymcphee in a slap mode! I felt her fury bro

Where is your evidence and quote attributed to nannymcphee's slap mode. SMH
Gombs YOYO.

Gombs:
Aii bro
But BabaGnoni didn't refute the claim on the thread, rather got nannymcphee in a slap mode! I felt her fury bro

well, we can't take that as evidence now or can we? i ignore some statements i find baseless sometimes and i'm sure you do same sometimes too. Let's try to avoid statements that stoke anger unnecessarily.

pickabeau1:
Gombs has lost focus of this thread
And i mentioned before hand you should played the role of a mediator

I like the chapter 7

Gombs i will like you to prepare a summary of each chapter, the key points as a form of recap

Please make it another thread after you have finished posting the book

Those were part of my plan! I'd bring up a summary fit for front page perhaps. I have not lost focus, its a well in the big picture. A lil break from the book since they went WoF.

Gombs:
Those were part of my plan! I'd bring up a summary fit for front page perhaps. I have not lost focus, its a well in the plan.

If u insist you havent...i will leave that to you

You did not moderate but got involved actively and just as u highlighted things to people

Im sure u agree some practices which have been put forth as the way have also been denounced

Even Hagin present denounced some acts of Hagins past

Lets have a summary of the key points and debate that

Candour:
well, we can't take that as evidence now or can we? i ignore some statements i find baseless sometimes and i'm sure you do same sometimes too. Let's try to avoid statements that stoke anger unnecessarily.

Yeah... you're on point. Now, this is the fourth time I've said let's move on, but eve, snake, WoF were all preferred at the moment!

kiddo,
you called me Shindemdem or something. Do I presume that vooks is shindemidemi because I never denied?
You can't possibly compound your dumbness with this idiocy

mbaemeka claimed that I had posted that Paul corrected Peter in Galatia. When I challenged him to back up his claim, he dithered. That is a MINOR mistake but I never did it and he used it to paint me as scripture-illiterate. Is this some self defence stuff you are taught at Christ Embassy, maligning your opponents?

Gombs:
Aii bro
But BabaGnoni didn't refute the claim on the thread, rather got nannymcphee in a slap mode! I felt her fury bro

We can't sacrifice malice and false allegations at the expense of finishing Midas
If Candour is on point, then please admit that you have ZERO evidence linking BabaGnoni to the Eve-serpent sex and apologize to his person. When will you ever get humble enough to admit to faults and apologize? And if you can't admit to such obvious errors, will you admit to doctrinal errors when cornered?

Gombs:
Yeah... you're on point. Now, this is the fourth time I've said let's move on, but eve, snake, WoF were all preferred at the moment!

Dear BabaGnoni,

I do not entertain your posts with complete attention, majorly for the colours and short incomplete sentences. Now, I have no malicious intentions with regards you, nor any, but notwithstanding, I believe you are learned.

If you think I care about your snake and eve gist with mba, or any, then you must be grossly wrong. I did not grace that thread. But, if you did not make that post on that thread or any other, then accept my unreserved apology. If you did, it's between you, your conscience and the devil.

I did not bother read any of your posts on this page, for I know what their contents would be. I really wish you and your WoF write ups were far from this thread, but no, you had to. Now, you are crying victim!

I have always avoided your posts for obvious reasons. Have a great day!

Warm Regards,
Gombs

Gombs:
You made a request, I obliged, na wa o

I asked you to post a link. You did. A post by someone else other than BabaGnoni. We await nannymcphee to confirm if she was truly quoting BBG or simply provided a statement under his name as a result of Bidam and mbaemeka's accusations.

I also requested you open a thread which you didn't.

You did what soothed you.

Gombs:
Do it Yourself

You want me to provide the link BBG edited? Am I the one accusing him of editing something? Well, since you cannot provided the already edited link, we must agree that such a link does not exist and you are simply being dishonest.

pickabeau1:
If u insist you havent...i will leave that to you
You did not moderate but got involved actively and just as u highlighted things to people
Im sure u agree some practices which have been put forth as the way have also been denounced
Even Hagin present denounced some acts of Hagins past
Lets have a summary of the key points and debate that

You want me to moderate a thread I created for discussion and stay out of the discussion? Really?

Would type out the summary, I think that's the best option now. Nice thinking bro!

WinsomeX:
I asked you to post a link. You did. A post by someone else other than BabsGnoni. We await nannymcphee to confirm if she was truly quoting BBG or simply provided a statement under his name as a resulting of Bidam and mbaemeka's accusations.

I also requested you open a thread which you didn't. You did what soothed you.



You want me to provide the link BBG edited? Are my the one accusing him of editing something? Well, since you cannot provided the already edited link, we must agree that such a link does not exist and you are simply being dishonest.

Your opinion is duly noted!

Gombs:
Dear BabaGnoni,

I do not entertain your posts with complete attention, majorly for the colours and short incomplete sentences. Now, I have no malicious intentions with regards you, nor any, but notwithstanding, I believe you are learned.

If you think I care about your snake and eve gist with mba, or any, then you must be grossly wrong. I did not grace that thread. But, if you did not make that post on that thread or any other, then accept my unreserved apology. If you did, it's between you, your conscience and the devil.

I did not bother read any of your posts on this page, for I know what their contents would be. I really wish you and your WoF write ups were far from this thread, but no, you had to. Now, you are crying victim!

I have always avoided your posts for obvious reasons. Have a great day!

Warm Regards,
Gombs

You owe me no apology or explanation Gombs.
Why I have become the centre of unwanted attention all of a sudden, I don't know

I didn't bring Eve and serpent on to this thread, neither have I on the WoF thread.

You should have faced and confronted your undisciplined colleagues, ask them why they continually derail and pollute other peoples' threads with their poison

PS: nannymcphee after picking up feelers (i.e. as usual not related to the ongoing thread) put out on the WoF thread by our "friends", designed to elicit the reactions of others, she nannymcphee, then made up a quote, doctored or improvised it and finally stucked my name to it.
- It was a rookie mistake on her part, which is why I didn't hold it against her nor take her up on it but just let it slide

As you like it..

Gombs:
You want me to moderate a thread I created for discussion and stay out of the discussion? Really?

Would type out the summary, I think that's the best option now. Nice thinking bro!

BabaGnoni:
You owe me no apology or explanation Gombs.
Why I have become the centre of unwanted attention all of a sudden, I don't know

I didn't bring Eve and serpent on to this thread, neither have I on the WoF thread.

You should have faced and confronted your undisciplined colleagues, ask them why they continually derail and pollute other peoples' threads with their poison

Alright!
Thanks again!


*handshake

WinsomeX: @nannymcphee, did you quote BabaGnoni or you simply provided a statement under his name following the accusations leveled against him by Bidam and mbaemeka? Please, be honest about this; we will all stand to give account of our words before God one day.

There is no need for the "honest"line, why should I lie

I initially quoted mbaemeka, then singled out the line & quoted BabaGnoni, to get his attention

he responded by writing alot of stuffs, I called crap & only gave scriptural backing for the first question I asked in mbaemeka's post

He also added this

By the way, fabricating a quote which is non existent on this thread and/or nowhere said or found on it
(i.e. no link of the quote is anywhere on this thread)
is tantamount to taking a sly sip of gutter water offered by mbaemeka

So I'll take it that this line was in response to the eve slept with the serpent since he answered the other question

Read thru the page Gombs just referenced, you will see everything

I think it will be helpful if BabaGnoni, should come out & clear the air, once & for all

Did he ever make such statement?

Even if he didn't, is he of the opinion that eve slept with the serpent?

If the answer to both question is NO, then it beats my imagination how such accusation can be made against him

Gombs:
Alright!
Thanks again!

*handshake

*Bottoms up.
Break a leg with the theather

nannymcphee:
There is no need for the "honest"line, why should I lie

I initially quoted mbaemeka, then singled out the line & quoted BabaGnoni, to get his attention

he responded by writing alot of stuffs, I called crap & only gave scriptural backing for the first question I asked in mbaemeka's post

He also added this

So I'll take it that this line was in response to the eve slept with the serpent since he answered the other question

Read thru the page Gombs just referenced, you will see everything

I think it will be helpful if BabaGnoni, should come out & clear the air, once & for all

Did he ever make such statement?

Even if he didn't, is he of the opinion that eve slept with the serpent?

If the answer to both question is NO, then it beats my imagination how such accusation can be made against him

^^^
What you should be doing, is apologising for conjuring up a quote out of thin air and smacking my name on it.
In the real world this will have some serious consequences and not go unpunished
The boldness and cheek of some people. SMH

BabaGnoni:
You owe me no apology or explanation Gombs.
Why I have become the centre of unwanted attention all of a sudden, I don't know

I didn't bring Eve and serpent on to this thread, neither have I on the WoF thread.

You should have faced and confronted your undisciplined colleagues, ask them why they continually derail and pollute other peoples' threads with their poison

PS: nannymcphee after picking up feelers (i.e. as usual not related to the ongoing thread) put out on the WoF thread by our "friends", designed to elicit the reactions of others, she nannymcphee, then made up a quote, doctored or improvised it and finally stucked my name to it.
- It was a rookie mistake on her part, which is why I didn't hold it against her nor take her up on it but just let it slide

It was a rookie mistake indeed, I only extracted that becos I wanted to get your attention & since it was attributed to you

Another reason was, I believed you made that statement considering the "heresy's" you had put up there, I found a lot of those things strange & wrong, so it wasn't difficult for me to believe you could say such. though I still don't agree on some of your point like "greater works" & "these signs shall follow them that believe... Not being for present day Christians etc"

Now I have a better understanding about "quote"

BabaGnoni:
^^^
What you should be doing, is apologising for conjuring up a quote out of thin air and smacking my name on it.
In the real world this will have some serious consequences and not go unpunished
The boldness and cheek of some people. SMH

My apologies Sire!!

nannymcphee:
It was a rookie mistake indeed, I only extracted that becos I wanted to get your attention & since it was attributed to you

Another reason was, I believed you made that statement considering the "heresy's" you had put up there, I found a lot of those things strange & wrong, so it wasn't difficult for me to believe you could say such. though I still don't agree on some of your point like "greater works" & "these signs shall follow them that believe... Not being for present day Christians etc"

Now I have a better understanding about "quote"

Like I said earlier, I knew it was a beginners mistake, which is why I didn't bother about it and let it be water on duck's back to me.
Those guys will go to any length, interjecting and derailing threads with serpent snide remarks etcetera when the heat gets too hot for their liking

nannymcphee:
So I'll take it that this line was in response to the eve slept with the serpent since he answered the other question

Read thru the page Gombs just referenced, you will see everything

I think it will be helpful if BabaGnoni, should come out & clear the air, once & for all

Did he ever make such statement?

Even if he didn't, is he of the opinion that eve slept with the serpent?

If the answer to both question is NO, then it beats my imagination how such accusation can be made against him

I think that is why the matter should be referred to a new thread by those who wish to know more on the matter.

Like Gombs said in his "private letter" up there, I don't care about how someone interpret the matter of garden of Eden. Such things are frivolous and have no bearing on matters concerning salvation.

I think it bothers on criminality for people to be discussing and pointing out damnable heresies, and for those who should learn and desist from it to choose to distract attention from the matter and cook up frivolous matters in the process. If they are genuine and honest, they will offer up proper responses to whatever accusation are laid against their beliefs and open a different thread to discuss another person's statement.

This school children accusations "you said I did this... you too, you did that..." only betray the simplistic way these guys think. The fact that you can even prove that a persons statement were made does not make your core beliefs true or biblical.

I could open the thread on Eve and serpent but I consider the issue a no-issue. Those who think it matters should open the thread and invite BBG to it, if they cannot they should shut up.

Gombs, proceed with your thread.

nannymcphee:
It was a rookie mistake indeed, I only extracted that becos I wanted to get your attention & since it was attributed to you

Another reason was, I believed you made that statement considering the "heresy's" you had put up there, I found a lot of those things strange & wrong, so it wasn't difficult for me to believe you could say such. though I still don't agree on some of your point like "greater works" & "these signs shall follow them that believe... Not being for present day Christians etc"

Now I have a better understanding about "quote"

nannymcphee:
My apologies Sire!!

I dont blame you or hold it against you, if you don't agree on some of my points.
- My second name is maverick, the others are live and let live.

It's all good "Sis", I've brushed myself down and checked. No bones have been broken yet

@BabaGnoni,

I think you should understand why the leading WoFist on this forum will want to attack, discredit and twist your words. You are the leading exposer of Word of Faith on this forum. These are the hazards that come with the work.

Maybe when next they begin to wine like newborns about Eve and Serpent, simply refer readers to this page where the matter has been dealt with and hopefully laid to rest.

WinsomeX:
@BabaGnoni,

I think you should understand why the leading WoFist on this forum will want to attack, discredit and twist your words. You are the leading exposer of Word of Faith on this forum. These are the hazards that come with the work.

Maybe when next they begin to wine like newborns about Eve and Serpent, simply refer readers to this page where the matter has been dealt with and hopefully laid to rest.

Oh Please! Spare me the baloney!
Now you want to look good about it, right? Leading exposer huh? SMH

Candour:
I too have some form of 'first fruit' practice if we can call it that. What i won't do is say it is in obedience to a biblical mandate to christians like some preachers do. That to me is ignorance at best or lying at worst.

^^^This should have been the topic clincher.

If he did on the pulpit or in his other books after writing Midas Touch, he'll correctly be labelled as lying.

I didn't say he preached it as a christian doctrine. I said he practiced it. I have heard Tunde Bakare say the same things about Firstfruits and tithes too. And by "heard" I mean I heard him live not that I read a particular link or thread.

However, It is purely Mosaic in form and practice. There is no scripture to support the notion that Abel gave first fruits offering or that Abraham was giving first fruits offering when he laid Isaac on the altar (infact churches prefer to use this to preach giving your all -mainly money and other material resources- to God).

Nope @ the emboldened. Every instance I mentioned carried the principle of firstfruits giving long before the Mosaic law. Recall I said firstfruits referred to the first and probably the best. That's the allusion given to the term all through the scriptures- old and new.

Genesis 4:4Amplified Bible (AMP)
4 And Abel brought of the firstborn of his flock and of the fat portions. And the Lord had respect and regard for Abel and for his offering

Genesis 22:2Amplified Bible (AMP)
2 [God] said, Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering upon one of the mountains of which I will tell you.

Also on the issue of King Mesha, i'm sure you remember he was the pagan king of a pagan Moab who were worshipping Molech?

True but the principle is what he expressed. What he did was akin to what God asked Abraham to do. Recall that the Moabites grew up under the tutelage of the Israelites somewhat. They must have learned this principle from them.

are you saying he did human sacrifice to God as first fruits offerings and God accepted it and stopped his chosen people from utterly defeating the moabites?

God respected the man's offering. I believe the bible gives strong indications as to that regard or is it easier to believe that God told the Israelites something but then the "deity" of the Moabites upturned God's word/prophecy? God said he would successfully "deliver the Moabites also into their hands" but after the man's sacrifice the same scriptures state that "there was great indignation against Israel and the people were forced to go back to their land". This means the Moabites weren't delivered to Israel's hands again and I strongly believe that only God almighty could have done that for them.

Also, are you saying God gave us first fruits offering? We are talking of first fruits offering, not just any first fruits. My first child is obviously the first fruits from my loins. The first salary i received when i started work is the first fruits of my working career. i have other first fruits as well but we are not talking of those.

God sacrificed his firstfruit, Jesus his son. He "offered" his son FOR us and not TO us. If you for example, dedicated/offered your first child for the work of God, that is a form of firstfruit offerings. You would be following the principle. That's exactly what I meant and that is why some people give their first salary to the work of God.