The tragic and horrific deaths of 115 people who were victims of a collapsed church building in one of the Lagos suburbs is one that evokes a lot of emotions.
Aside from the horrors of seeing 115 mangled bodies, when we consider where they died and how they died, it causes a lot pain and stress to different people.

On different threads on this forum , I have often lamented and warned (almost prophetically) of the danger of allowing Men or Women whose belief system is not grounded on objective reality in positions where they make decisions that affect other people, large groups of people for that matter.

I have also warned and lamented on the mentally debilitating effects that our breed of pulpit Pi.m.ps and clowns have on our NATIONAL IQ, our collective intelligence, Our collective IQ, Our collective reasoning abilities when we allow and even glorify the public display of St.upi.dity on national television.
It is a well know fact that intelligence and IQ can be dumbbed down over a period of time when distorted aspects of reality are fed to the masses repeatedly. There is a saying that a lie repeated every so often tend to become truth for the receiver.

So my question for Nairalanders is this :
What kind of emotions does this tragedy invoke inside you?

Do you think it marks the obituary of god as we know it, or do you think it rather marks the final obituary of common sense as we know it in Nigeria?

plaetton:
The tragic and horrific deaths of 115 people who were victims of a collapsed church building in one of the Lagos suburbs is one that evokes a lot of emotions.
Aside from the horrors of seeing 115 mangled bodies, when we consider where they died and how they died, it causes a lot pain and stress to different people.

On different threads on this forum , I have often lamented and warned (almost prophetically) of the danger of allowing Men or Women whose belief system is not grounded on objective reality in positions where they make decisions that affect other people, large groups of people for that matter.

I have also warned and lamented on the mentally debilitating effects that our breed of pulpit Pi.m.ps and clowns have on our NATIONAL IQ, our collective intelligence, Our collective IQ, Our collective reasoning abilities when we allow and even glorify the public display of St.upi.dity on national television.
It is a well know fact that intelligence and IQ can be dumbbed down over a period of time when distorted aspects of reality are fed to the masses repeatedly. There is a saying that a lie repeated every so often tend to become truth for the receiver.

So my question for Nairalanders is this :
What kind of emotions does this tragedy invoke inside you?

Do you think it marks the obituary of god as we know it, or do you think it rather marks the final obituary of common sense as we know it in Nigeria?

Neither of the two. To cling to any side of the divide will be drawing hasty generalizations. And you may ask, what is wrong with any generalization of this sort. To which I will answer, it blinds reason and makes you guilty of one side of the divide, which is, though personlized now-the death of your common sense.

Reyginus:
Neither of the two. To cling to any side of the divide will be drawing hasty generalizations. And you may ask, what is wrong with any generalization of this sort. To which I will answer, it blinds reason and makes you guilty of one side of the divide, which is, though personlized now-the death of your common sense.

Huh?
Stop speaking in tongues, sir Reyginus, this is not the pentcost.

Reyginus:
Neither of the two. To cling to any side of the divide will be drawing hasty generalizations. And you may ask, what is wrong with any generalization of this sort. To which I will answer, it blinds reason and makes you guilty of one side of the divide, which is, though personlized now-the death of your common sense.

Abeg interprete this your post for pidgin english make will understand.

urheme:



Abeg interprete this your post for pidgin english make will understand.

Lol. Wetin I mean be say, you no fit talk say something wey everybody get don die because one pesin like that kill him own.

The thing be sey, once you talk that kind talk wetin e mean be sey that particular thing don die completely. Make I use one story like that explain am give you. You know sey everybody get money for different amount abi? Imagine say you go oversea come see where wan yeye man dey burn him money say him don tire for am. For this kain thing eh, e no go make sense to come sey everybody for that country like to dey burn dia money. If we talk so, we don lie be that, because, na only one man we see wen dey burn him money.
If you look this thing wen my friend, plaetton, dey talk, e wan resemble the tory wen I just nack give you. Him see say one man no respect some kain rules for building him house him come dey ask whether that one mean say everybody wen dey do the same work with the man get sense at all? Him dey use one man wahala judge all our wahala.

Na so him also bring baba God inside o. Imagine wen pesin no obey him papa, come make mistake wen him papa warm am against, you no go blame him papa na. And e no mean say the paley don die.

As e be so, na him brain wey no too correct you go blame, no be him papa or people wen dey do the same work. Abi no be so?

plaetton:

Huh?
Stop speaking in tongues, sir Reyginus, this is not the pentcost.

Maybe I am high from too much drinking. Sip some, sir Plaetton. Be my guest.

Reyginus:
Maybe I am high from too much drinking. Sip some, sir Plaetton. Be my guest.

Thank you, but I am too high on my special blend of weed.

Op ur writeup is a parable. I can't decode where u got sense, intelligence and IQ from the collapse of a building.

Op we all feel bad about the lost of life at the synagogue, but not for the building though, i still feel tb joshua must be held liable for this tragedy, failing to honour the summon of the inquest is very offensive, the worst i heard was that his lawyer refused the service of the summon on his client behalf. Sound like a joke and the panel fell for this.

What can i say, they have been briebed the man of god bought their conscience and the whole world is watching

Despite all that happened, there is hardly a vacant seat in the church on sundays, this make me believe that religion is for the gullible mind.
RIP to the dead but there was contributory negligence from their own part.

If common sense is common as said, these remaining deluded followers will realise that they have been scamed.

plaetton:


Thank you, but I am too high on my special blend of weed.

Yeah. Weed is good if you know how to use it. I don't know how to use it.

Reyginus:
Yeah. Weed is good if you know how to use it. I don't know how to use it.

Yeah, smoke it but I don't inhale.

Reyginus:
Lol. Wetin I mean be say, you no fit talk say something wey everybody get don die because one pesin like that kill him own.

The thing be sey, once you talk that kind talk wetin e mean be sey that particular thing don die completely. Make I use one story like that explain am give you. You know sey everybody get money for different amount abi? Imagine say you go oversea come see where wan yeye man dey burn him money say him don tire for am. For this kain thing eh, e no go make sense to come sey everybody for that country like to dey burn dia money. If we talk so, we don lie be that, because, na only one man we see wen dey burn him money.
If you look this thing wen my friend, plaetton, dey talk, e wan resemble the tory wen I just nack give you. Him see say one man no respect some kain rules for building him house him come dey ask whether that one mean say everybody wen dey do the same work with the man get sense at all? Him dey use one man wahala judge all our wahala.

Na so him also bring baba God inside o. Imagine wen pesin no obey him papa, come make mistake wen him papa warm am against, you no go blame him papa na. And e no mean say the paley don die.

As e be so, na him brain wey no too correct you go blame, no be him papa or people wen dey do the same work. Abi no be so?

Ah! This interpretation is very long.
Oga pidgin hard oh

plaetton:

Yeah, smoke it but I don't inhale.

Chai! Physiologically, it is beneficial. But it is prone to abuse. Are you an addict?

plaetton:

Yeah, smoke it but I don't inhale.

That talk na for fish and preservation. Smoke and inhale o.

Reyginus:
Neither of the two. To cling to any side of the divide will be drawing hasty generalizations. And you may ask, what is wrong with any generalization of this sort. To which I will answer, it blinds reason and makes you guilty of one side of the divide, which is, though personlized now-the death of your common sense.

I get this post. Does this make me gay?

Reyginus:
Chai! Physiologically, it is beneficial. But it is prone to abuse. Are you an addict?

Just kidding.
I avoid mind altering drugs, like religion.

@ Reyginus,
What I asking is; by all accounts, shouldn't this tragedy be the bona fide obituary of god?

For, in this tragedy, I saw that mangled corpse of god along with the unlucky 115.
I am wondering if others saw it as well.

But my surprise and shock is that rather than a befitting obituary and requiem for god, My fellow country men have to slay , mutilate and drag the mangled corpse of reason as necessary sacrifice to keep god alive.

I'm still wondering how God comes into the picture in this your epistle, the SCOAN tragedy was clearly caused by human error, please get that into your head Mr plaetton . the funny thing with so called atheists is they can't stop talking about a God they don't believe in. Quite ironic if you ask me .

Thugnificent:
I'm still wondering how God comes into the picture in this your epistle, the SCOAN tragedy was clearly caused by human error, please get that into your head Mr plaetton . the funny thing with so called atheists is they can't stop talking about a God they don't believe in. Quite ironic if you ask me .

Human error?
That's my point bro.
Where is god before and after humans make these tragic errors?

Is God incapable if overriding common human errors, especially when such errors portend doom for his faithful worshippers who beseech him day and night to protect them from such calamities, more especially in a temple dedicated to him?

plaetton:


Human error?
That's my point bro.
Where is god before and after humans make these tragic errors?

Is God incapable if overriding common human errors, especially when such errors portend doom for his faithful worshippers who beseech him day and night to protect them from such calamities, more especially in a temple dedicated to him?

Your logic is laughable. what's the difference between the collapse of a "church " building and the collapse of the clothing factory in Bangladesh? and besides , God doesn't dwell in Temples made with human hands.

Thugnificent:
Your logic is laughable. what's the difference between the collapse of a "church " building and the collapse of the clothing factory in Bangladesh? and besides , God doesn't dwell in Temples made with human hands.

Both are tragedies. Both were caused by wicked men who put profit ahead of lives .
But what makes a church building collapse much more intriguing is that it is supposed to be a sanctuary where people come to feel the presence, the protective power of a loving god.

The tragedy raises serious questions about what we believe, what people are being sold by pulpit p.I.MPs.
If god that you beseech every hour cannot save a person, a believer, from such a horrific and embarrassing death, then what can God really do for you on this earth.

Who needs god, and why?

plaetton:

So my question for Nairalanders is this :
What kind of emotions does this tragedy invoke inside you?

Do you think it marks the obituary of god as we know it, or do you think it rather marks the final obituary of common sense as we know it in Nigeria?

Since I'm finally getting there with the shayo make I answer
The kind of emotion this invokes inside me is hard to describe. Apart from the pleasant effects of shayo flowing through me, it invokes a deep contemplation. Obviously, God does not love those who travel the world to worship his belligerent, blood-thirsty and jealous persona. This is evidenced in many other observations too. So the next emotion flowing through me is that of pity and regret for those who STILL worship the belligerent, blood-thirsty and jealous sky dweller. Furthermore I am in deep meditation over the question whether perhaps the worshippers were caught having s.ex in a sinful position before, which would of course justify this atrocity by the sky dweller.
Sarcasm aside... it's sad that people got killed while doing what they thought was the right thing to do. Unfortunately I doubt anyone will question whether the sky dweller really exists after this though. Instead it will be the usual "mysterious ways" argument.

Thugnificent:
Your logic is laughable. what's the difference between the collapse of a "church " building and the collapse of the clothing factory in Bangladesh? and besides , God doesn't dwell in Temples made with human hands.

I guess God dwells in temples made with machine hands?

plaetton:

Both are tragedies. Both were caused by wicked men who put profit ahead of lives .
But what makes a church building collapse much more intriguing is that it is supposed to be a sanctuary where people come to feel the presence, the protective power of a loving god.

The tragedy raises serious questions about what we believe, what people are being sold by pulpit p.I.MPs.
If god that you beseech every hour cannot save a person, a believer, from such a horrific and embarrassing death, then what can God really do for you on this earth.

Who needs god, and why?

so you agree that the tragedy was caused by human error right ? God is clearly not in support of greed or covetousness. not withstanding, I'm clearly not favoring the pastorpreneurs, but the crux of the matter is that all this tragedies could clearly have been avoided. I'm sad life was lost but blaming God for the tragedy is just pathetic grasping at straws by a well known atheist on this forum.

Dapo777:


I guess God dwells in temples made with machine hands?

lol who makes the machines? take a wild guess

Liekiller:


Since I'm finally getting there with the shayo make I answer
The kind of emotion this invokes inside me is hard to describe. Apart from the pleasant effects of shayo flowing through me, it invokes a deep contemplation. Obviously, God does not love those who travel the world to worship his belligerent, blood-thirsty and jealous persona. This is evidenced in many other observations too. So the next emotion flowing through me is that of pity and regret for those who STILL worship the belligerent, blood-thirsty and jealous sky dweller. Furthermore I am in deep meditation over the question whether perhaps the worshippers were caught having s.ex in a sinful position before, which would of course justify this atrocity by the sky dweller.
Sarcasm aside... it's sad that people got killed while doing what they thought was the right thing to do. Unfortunately I doubt anyone will question whether the sky dweller really exists after this though. Instead it will be the usual "mysterious ways" argument.

Maybe they were some people having doggy style in the building, so that justify the allowance of the collapse of the building by God. God's ways are mysterious, am very sure because someone was having doggy Which wasn't What God ordained, So he was angered and sent the fighter jet.

Thugnificent:
lol who makes the machines? take a wild guess

Ok God dwells in temples made by themselves. Is that Better?

Hmmm. The god-idea can not just die like that. Am beginning to believe that religion is part of the evolutionary survival strategies of the human specie. I tell you , the tragic occurences only serve to strengthen the 'faith' of many because 'we are in the end times'.
Sad to admit it, the stupidity of religion will still be around for a long time to come especially in the dark corners of human civilization such as poverty-striken Africa.

Dapo777:


Maybe they were some people having doggy style in the building, so that justify the allowance of the collapse of the building by God. God's ways are mysterious, am very sure because someone was having doggy Which wasn't What God ordained, So he was angered and sent the fighter jet.

Blasphemy!blasphemy!! blasphemy!!! O God, why not strike him down nowwww in your jealous tantrums for he hath profaned thine hallowed name...that thy name may be glorified in all the earth!!!! lol.

Oduduwaboy:

Blasphemy!blasphemy!! blasphemy!!! O God, why not strike him down nowwww in your jealous tantrums for he hath profaned thine hallowed name...that thy name may be glorified in all the earth!!!! lol.

But It's true oo,why hasn't God strikes me down Since and he stroke a man down in the Bible for attempting to prevent the Ark of God from tipping over(Which is a good thing) now that I am doing worse why hasn't he stroke me down?

Thugnificent:
so you agree that the tragedy was caused by human error right ? God is clearly not in support of greed or covetousness. not withstanding, I'm clearly not favoring the pastorpreneurs, but the crux of the matter is that all this tragedies could clearly have been avoided. I'm sad life was lost but blaming God for the tragedy is just pathetic grasping at straws by a well known atheist on this forum.

So God is not powerful enough to prevent the collapse? You are such a lunatic.

I am very sure you must have attributed it to God Fr the few that survived,and dismissed the other people that died and say It's God's plan. Isn't it?

Anyway God doesn't dwell in temples made by man. He dwells in temples made by themselves.

Liekiller:


Since I'm finally getting there with the shayo make I answer
The kind of emotion this invokes inside me is hard to describe. Apart from the pleasant effects of shayo flowing through me, it invokes a deep contemplation. Obviously, God does not love those who travel the world to worship his belligerent, blood-thirsty and jealous persona. This is evidenced in many other observations too. So the next emotion flowing through me is that of pity and regret for those who STILL worship the belligerent, blood-thirsty and jealous sky dweller. Furthermore I am in deep meditation over the question whether perhaps the worshippers were caught having s.ex in a sinful position before, which would of course justify this atrocity by the sky dweller.
Sarcasm aside... it's sad that people got killed while doing what they thought was the right thing to do. Unfortunately I doubt anyone will question whether the sky dweller really exists after this though. Instead it will be the usual "mysterious ways" argument.

people got killed because they were negligent with their lives, faith in religion or in a pastor is not faith in God, reasoning enhance faith and not the other way round, most religious followers do not think because they have been hypnotised.

man was born to die some days and this should not be attributed to God's anger when a death is tragic, as for tb Joshua and his contractors who have raised substandard buildings in the name of god should not go unpunished for they have breech the laws of our land.

as to the dead, I will say tb Joshua has no contract with any one of then whatsoever, they were in the collapsed building by chance and by their own illegal and voluntary movement, they were looking for god and so they have found god.

answer---a sky dweller does not exist but God exist.

don't ask me for proves.