Now, you resulted to abuse. when a person throws a stick into the packs of dogs, the dog that shouts/bark is the dog that the stick struck. (i hope my grammer is intact). what can be called of a man that sees himself as a woman? or a woman who sees herself as a man?
i don't know how to describe a man with between 4 inches to 9 inches or more thinking that he has to stick it into another person with a 4 inches or more. that picture is disgusting. however no hating, there is a remedy.
Nigerians or africans are nice with gays, there rae still some places in europe that kills gay instantly. infact because of gays, skinheads have shifted their attention away from stabbing dark skinned people.

beryl04:



All I see up there is a lot more jibby-jabber from you.

In some climes, u'll be termed the sick one for having ur life revolve around a book that was written about a 1000yrs ago.but ur in Nigeria so, u r allowed to wallow!

gatiano:
can you open another thread or tread so that we don't derail this thread or tread, there are a lot of nigerian/african people that correct the english or american man grammer, the last time an african did so to the englishman, the englishman fainted. open another thread/tread for the reality of devils. i'm a muslim, a true new muslim, muslim of the very old, and also a i strife to follow the true teachings and lesson of Jesus as taught to him by GOD, i feed from Elijah Muhammad. so no abuse, but a lot of argument can be allowed. also a true believer is common sense with basic science and basic mathematics. i am not a racist.

I don't believe in Religion,It puts people in a box. I believe religious people are stuck in the past. You cannot refer to a Cancer research of 1930s which is so much outdated,so,Elijah Mohammed's view on life cannot determine how we think now. Religious books have no place in our society.

Gay folks are humans just like us. There should be no debate to determine whether they should have their Nature's-Given Rights or not. Who are we to judge others on who to sleep with. I cannot judge you for being a Muslim,just don't call others Devils because they do not reason like you.

There is no supreme God. If there were one,it will have its on supreme God too.

how else can a person learn? can you learn all by yourself? are you learned from the time you were born? emphatically no! we either read or schooled or taught by somebody or a teacher. it is left to our common sense and reasoning to understand the knowledge or wisdom. so we are not self taught. the gay thing is taught to people.

ifeness:


And who is "Gods" if you say humans are the Devil?


Your answer will determine whether you were taught what to think or how to think.

firstEVA:
. Applause, so long

Don't worry.
I'm a bisexual.
I will marry you and still have a boyfriend.
Deal?

well then, without religion, you can never exist or be here. as the atheist put it, "Any religion that does not find congruency with science and mathematics and is rooted in the universal order of things is a "religion" that can be considered as the opiate of the masses. i am not that kind of muslim or christain that anybody can tell stupid things, then i simply just accept. Elijah Muhammad teachings will stay forever, truth stay forever.

ifeness:


I don't believe in Religion,It puts people in a box. I believe religious people are stuck in the past. You cannot refer to a Cancer research of 1930s which is so much outdated,so,Elijah Mohammed's view on life cannot determine how we think now. Religious books have no place in our society.

Gay folks are humans just like us. There should be no debate to determine whether they should have their Nature's-Given Rights or not. Who are we to judge others on who to sleep with. I cannot judge you for being a Muslim,just don't call others Devils because they do not reason like you.

There is no supreme God. If there were one,it will have its on supreme God too.

buchisom1:
if u feel the law of jonathen is nt powerful den come out a show case ua gay do as lovers do in d street of nigeria and see what happen to u...nobdy go save u...all ua power and might only end here on social media..if u tink wat u doin is right den walk on d street of nigeria with ua partner and show love lik normal pple do...my own is if u dont chnge one day ua shit go smell come outside and evrybdy go knw who u really re...jus keep hidin under nairaland

Mumu

gatiano:
how else can a person learn? can you learn all by yourself? are you learned from the time you were born? emphatically no! we either read or schooled or taught by somebody or a teacher. it is left to our common sense and reasoning to understand the knowledge or wisdom. so we are not self taught. the gay thing is taught to people.

Gays are not self taught. When you see a gay child you could tell by what colors they like,their asociation with boys and girls and mostly admiration for fashion and most of them are very neat and tidy. Gay people are a blessing to our world,GIVE THEM A CHANCE!

When you are taught how to think,you wont believe everything you are taught. You will automatically filter information given to you. Condemning people is barbaric. You can be a critic but not a judge to other people's decisions.

gatiano:
well then, without religion, you can never exist or be here. as the atheist put it, "Any religion that does not find congruency with science and mathematics and is rooted in the universal order of things is a "religion" that can be considered as the opiate of the masses. i am not that kind of muslim or christain that anybody can tell stupid things, then i simply just accept. Elijah Muhammad teachings will stay forever, truth stay forever.

Good for you if you decide to stick to Elijah Mohammad's teachings. I hope it becomes a useful tool if you on your life Journey. Mr Malcolm X learned the hard way after paying to much attention to the same teachings. Apparently he was murdered for crossing Mr Elijah's teachings.

I do not need religion to exist,I already do without one.

gays are taught and conditioned, no matter how long a person believes a lie 5 days or a million years, it will only take truth 1 minute to change all the millions of years lies. however GOD is perfect, a perfect scientist. He would not rush the truth in a person so as not to put them in a state of confusion or shock, so it is steadily. the truth indeed frees the soul and body. so homosexualism is a phenomeno of lies, clean pathological lies padded with sense of sympathy. A russian once asked me, how can america be destroyed? i was shocked, but then i answered him, i said its simple "destroy hollywood". after 2 months, he agreed. if one can't control self, don't look at hollywood production, this is one of the many places gays are taught. like i said earlier, the kinds of clothes that are made can make one want to try something. nobody wants to be a cigarrette smoker, they only want to be big boys and big girls, so they start smoking. and the few who happen to start smoking, one would notice that they just quit after a little while. homosexualism is taught and promoted, and it is florished by the devil financing them. how else would they the devil want to saction a country for disallowing gayism?

ifeness:


Gays are not self taught. When you see a gay child you could tell by what colors they like,their asociation with boys and girls and mostly admiration for fashion and most of them are very neat and tidy. Gay people are a blessing to our world,GIVE THEM A CHANCE!

When you are taught how to think,you wont believe everything you are taught. You will automatically filter information given to you. Condemning people is barbaric. You can be a critic but not a judge to other people's decisions.

Malcolm Shabazz was not murdered by the Nation of Islam, those who murdered him know themselves pretty well. Malcolm Shabazz brought the truth to so many. He was a greatman, brave and diligent, intelligent brother. He got decieved. Muhammad Ali owes all the grace and glory he had to GOD. he only became a Muhammad Ali, when He began to use the name Muhammad Ali that Elijah Muhammad gave him. and when it was time for him to use the knowledge of GOD impounded on him to teach the truth to the fold, he declined. Anybody that declines GOD, declines life.

ifeness:


Good for you if you decide to stick to Elijah Mohammad's teachings. I hope it becomes a useful tool if you on your life Journey. Mr Malcolm X learned the hard way after paying to much attention to the same teachings. Apparently he was murdered for crossing Mr Elijah's teachings.

I do not need religion to exist,I already do without one.

we shall see

ifeness:


Good for you if you decide to stick to Elijah Mohammad's teachings. I hope it becomes a useful tool if you on your life Journey. Mr Malcolm X learned the hard way after paying to much attention to the same teachings. Apparently he was murdered for crossing Mr Elijah's teachings.

I do not need religion to exist,I already do without one.

gatiano:
gays are taught and conditioned, no matter how long a person believes a lie 5 days or a million years, it will only take truth 1 minute to change all the millions of years lies. however GOD is perfect, a perfect scientist. He would not rush the truth in a person so as not to put them in a state of confusion or shock, so it is steadily. the truth indeed frees the soul and body. so homosexualism is a phenomeno of lies, clean pathological lies padded with sense of sympathy. A russian once asked me, how can america be destroyed? i was shocked, but then i answered him, i said its simple "destroy hollywood". after 2 months, he agreed. if one can't control self, don't look at hollywood production, this is one of the many places gays are taught. like i said earlier, the kinds of clothes that are made can make one want to try something. nobody wants to be a cigarrette smoker, they only want to be big boys and big girls, so they start smoking. and the few who happen to start smoking, one would notice that they just quit after a little while. homosexualism is taught and promoted, and it is florished by the devil financing them. how else would they the devil want to saction a country for disallowing gayism?

"however GOD is perfect, a perfect scientist" And yet couldn't stop manufacturing gay people? I haven't agreed with you that there is a God and yet you stick it on here as if it makes sense to me.

I am a student nurse in my second year at the University of Essex, I have a few gay professors and they do not seem taught by anyone. I have a few gay course mates,they are one of the many nice people you will love to meet. How could you know much about them when you haven't even met one?

Education is meant to teach you how to think and not what to think.

gatiano:
Malcolm Shabazz was not murdered by the Nation of Islam, those who murdered him know themselves pretty well. Malcolm Shabazz brought the truth to so many. He was a greatman, brave and diligent, intelligent brother. He got decieved. Muhammad Ali owes all the grace and glory he had to GOD. he only became a Muhammad Ali, when He began to use the name Muhammad Ali that Elijah Muhammad gave him. and when it was time for him to use the knowledge of GOD impounded on him to teach the truth to the fold, he declined. Anybody that declines GOD, declines life.

Malcolm X later saw all humans as equals,and that was his crime that got him murdered. What is the definition of a God?

ifeness:


I don't believe in Religion,It puts people in a box. I believe religious people are stuck in the past. You cannot refer to a Cancer research of 1930s which is so much outdated,so,Elijah Mohammed's view on life cannot determine how we think now. Religious books have no place in our society.

Gay folks are humans just like us. There should be no debate to determine whether they should have their Nature's-Given Rights or not. Who are we to judge others on who to sleep with. I cannot judge you for being a Muslim,just don't call others Devils because they do not reason like you.

There is no supreme God. If there were one,it will have its on supreme God too.

Sir Arthur Keith summarizes the evolution doctrine as follows: “Evolution is unproven and unprovable. We believe it, however, because the only alternative is an act of creation by a God, and that is unthinkable.” IS THIS ACTUALLY WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN? AS FOR ME, I HAVE ENOUGH PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD AND I WILL NEVER DEPART FROM HIM.

Misogynist2014:
Sir Arthur Keith summarizes the evolution doctrine as follows: “Evolution is unproven and unprovable. We believe it, however, because the only alternative is an act of creation by a God, and that is unthinkable.” IS THIS ACTUALLY WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN? AS FOR ME, I HAVE ENOUGH PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD AND I WILL NEVER DEPART FROM HIM.

Ok yours is the Christian God! Ok give me proof then.

ifeness:


Ok yours is the Christian God! Ok give me proof then.

Is it on his existence or why I believe its his way that leads to heaven? One at a time.

Misogynist2014:
Is it on his existence or why I believe its his way that leads to heaven? One at a time.

Which heaven are you talking about again? First,give me or show me evidence of your God... I meant proven evidence!

ifeness:


Which heaven are you talking about again? First,give me or show me evidence of your God... I meant proven evidence!

Saying God doesn't exist is like saying the world started from nothing, for nothing cannot beget something. Nothing didn't start the universe, it could't. Something did.
For nothing to exist it must have been created by something. That something must be called God, cos he created nothing and everything came from him, without him would there be anything made that was made. He must be infinite in wisdom and in all things, he must be infinite because he is infinity.

don't try to use my words against me. like i said, GOD creates well and perfect, when a baby is born, he or she doesn't have sense of anything be it right or wrong. he/her inclination towards life depends on what he/she is exposed to and how he/she is taught. back in my days in nigeria, television starts by 4 pm. 4 to 6 is ninja mouse and voltorn (GOD is my witness, i don't understand what they are saying or maybe i don't listen), the rest is speakout, i hated it or those jet club quiz, it was an avenue for my mum to call me olodo. 11 pm in the night, nta, has gone to sleep(closed), even at that, i must go to sleep myself latest 10 pm. on saturday, i must sweep compound and help with the house work, saturday was boring except wrestling and few neighbours coming over or i going to them if i'm allowed or father gone out. sunday you know in typical african household, its church all sunday long. it was from clapperboard channel i began to escape parential scrutiny. i'm not trying to give my life details, that which i was exposed to as a child did not permit to think anything same sex. like i said it all depends to what you are taught or exposed to.
Gay people can be a very nice people, infact extremely nice people, i have met with many and yes they can be nice.

now on mathematical level. if all was well in the world, and everybody had their means met financially. how would gay people procreate? so we can deduce that in order for gay people to procreate, the world must not be equal where a rich can hire the help of a woman to carry a baby for 9 months, or they can simply just adopt because the adopted child's parent can't afford the care.

the purpose of a man and woman is amongst many to procreate, and nothing can comfort a man like a woman, nothing!
in reality today's education does not teach you what to think or how to think, it subconsciously conditions you on what to think.

That bible, he who believe the bible on a face value without a complete knowledge of its symbolic use of words and language is headed straight for the devil's net. so what i am saying is that all the prophets of the bible, most of them are scientists, Jacob was, Abraham was, Moses was, Jesus was, but the Lamb is not. how can the lamb then know so much? Elijah Muhammad is that lamb.

ifeness:


"however GOD is perfect, a perfect scientist" And yet couldn't stop manufacturing gay people? I haven't agreed with you that there is a God and yet you stick it on here as if it makes sense to me.

I am a student nurse in my second year at the University of Essex, I have a few gay professors and they do not seem taught by anyone. I have a few gay course mates,they are one of the many nice people you will love to meet. How could you know much about them when you haven't even met one?

Education is meant to teach you how to think and not what to think.

Misogynist2014:
Saying God doesn't exist is like saying the world started from nothing, for nothing cannot beget something. Nothing didn't start the universe, it could't. Something did.
For nothing to exist it must have been created by something. That something must be called God, cos he created nothing and everything cane from him, without him would there be anything made that was made. He must be infinite in wisdom and in all things, he must be infinite because he is infinity.

That is no evidence of a being called "God". You are only trying to let me see your logic. Using a "He" for your God means your God is a male figure,there goes your flaws. Come up with something better!

Creation doesn't need a creator. We all know how mountains are formed. They weren't created by anyone but Volcanic eruptions. Fungi are not created,neither are bacterias created too. There is no evidence humans were created but Evolution has been the obvious so far.

Malcolm Shabazz never saw everybody as equal, he only wanted to align himself with the white arabs controlled by the americans. He got decieved by the whites, he knew it and before he could comeback to tell of what he saw, he got killed planned by the whites, they gave one or two streets in his name. when one is been oppressed for so long, they will want to always succumb to their oppressor. but he who is indeed free is free.
if one were to put all the black leaders of this world africa, asia, pacific- the president and pastor etc into one person, they can't touch the feet of Louis Farrakhan. not one, please give me one name.

GOD is a english word, the proper name of GOD is ALLAH. ALL IN ALL. And ALLAH has is own name like everybody else.

ifeness:


Malcolm X later saw all humans as equals,and that was his crime that got him murdered. What is the definition of a God?

gatiano:
don't try to use my words against me. like i said, GOD creates well and perfect, when a baby is born, he or she doesn't have sense of anything be it right or wrong. he/her inclination towards life depends on what he/she is exposed to and how he/she is taught. back in my days in nigeria, television starts by 4 pm. 4 to 6 is ninja mouse and voltorn (GOD is my witness, i don't understand what they are saying or maybe i don't listen), the rest is speakout, i hated it or those jet club quiz, it was an avenue for my mum to call me olodo. 11 pm in the night, nta, has gone to sleep(closed), even at that, i must go to sleep myself latest 10 pm. on saturday, i must sweep compound and help with the house work, saturday was boring except wrestling and few neighbours coming over or i going to them if i'm allowed or father gone out. sunday you know in typical african household, its church all sunday long. it was from clapperboard channel i began to escape parential scrutiny. i'm not trying to give my life details, that which i was exposed to as a child did not permit to think anything same sex. like i said it all depends to what you are taught or exposed to.
Gay people can be a very nice people, infact extremely nice people, i have met with many and yes they can be nice.

now on mathematical level. if all was well in the world, and everybody had their means met financially. how would gay people procreate? so we can deduce that in order for gay people to procreate, the world must not be equal where a rich can hire the help of a woman to carry a baby for 9 months, or they can simply just adopt because the adopted child's parent can't afford the care.

the purpose of a man and woman is amongst many to procreate, and nothing can comfort a man like a woman, nothing!
in reality today's education does not teach you what to think or how to think, it subconsciously conditions you on what to think.

That bible, he who believe the bible on a face value without a complete knowledge of its symbolic use of words and language is headed straight for the devil's net. so what i am saying is that all the prophets of the bible, most of them are scientists, Jacob was, Abraham was, Moses was, Jesus was, but the Lamb is not. how can the lamb then know so much? Elijah Muhammad is that lamb.

What you are trying to say in a nutshell is that you are concerned about population growth if gay people are allowed to exist right? Nature will take care of all that,BTW there are too many kids out there without parents. Lets adopt some and give them a home.

Question: Should we stone them to death as the bible commanded?

I do not understand what you mean by Elijah Mohammad being a lamb,perhaps you wanna explain more.

ifeness:


That is no evidence of a being called "God". You are only trying to let me see your logic. Using a "He" for your God means your God is a male figure,there goes your flaws. Come up with something better!

Creation doesn't need a creator. We all know how mountains are formed. They weren't created by anyone but Volcanic eruptions. Fungi are not created,neither are bacterias created too. There is no evidence humans were created but Evolution has been the obvious so far.

Are you trying to tell me fungus, mountains, sprang from nothing, impossible! Mountains can be formed from fossils, heat and molten magma, we all know their source. It is right to say God doesn't exist if the world began from nothing. Even nothing itself is something. Unlike big bang or other make believe theories will make you believe, the world started from infinity and will surely end when we reach infinity. God doesn't have beginning and also doesn't have an end.


I would have loved to use it but for my Beloved Bible (BB)

Misogynist2014:
Are you trying to tell me fungus, mountains, sprang from nothing, impossible! Mountains can be formed from fossils, heat and molten magma, we all know their source. It is right to say God doesn't exist if the world began from nothing. Even nothing itself is something. Unlike big bang or other make believe theories will make you believe, the world started from infinity and will surely end when we reach infinity. God doesn't have beginning and also doesn't have an end.


I would have loved to use it but for my Beloved Bible (BB)

You still haven proven the existence of a God, so don't tell me it's attributes. If the Yahweh is the God you are referring to,i will have to believe in Zeus,Jupiter,Apollo and others too,because they were all written in a book.

ifeness:


You still haven proven the existence of a God, so don't tell me it's attributes. If the Yahweh is the God you are referring to,i will have to believe in Zeus,Jupiter,Apollo and others too,because they were all written in a book.

So you would have believed a god who said the earth was held by a mighty man called atlas? Isn't it?

gatiano:
Now, you resulted to abuse. when a person throws a stick into the packs of dogs, the dog that shouts/bark is the dog that the stick struck. (i hope my grammer is intact). what can be called of a man that sees himself as a woman? or a woman who sees herself as a man?
i don't know how to describe a man with between 4 inches to 9 inches or more thinking that he has to stick it into another person with a 4 inches or more. that picture is disgusting. however no hating, there is a remedy.
Nigerians or africans are nice with gays, there rae still some places in europe that kills gay instantly. infact because of gays, skinheads have shifted their attention away from stabbing dark skinned people.

The term I think u might be looking for is transgender and yes they exist even in our very own nigeria.they need love and care and not condemnation and threat of hell fire.that's d way God created them and I know a lot of them that has left d shores of this shi.t. Hole of a country and they're doing fine in their respective fields of endeavours.
If u don't understand that man can love another man then u need to look away cos it's none of ur damned business.
As for the killing part ,goodluck with that , I'm sure u'll get a medal in heaven,if it ever exists.

what is the nutshell and what is the nut? that is one of the major example, and besides like i said, without people in poverty and slaves to materialism, nobody would leave a child to be adopted. if all is how it suppose to be, everybody will be able to cater his/her own responsiblities. if all is able to cater their responsibilities, which soon would be, how will a gay parent procreate?

the lamb, what is the nature of the lamb? somebody was said that if there are lambs all together in one place in a ship, and one is made to jump into the sea, the other lambs will follow. it is to show how unknowledgable the lamb is, yet it is the lamb that was given the book to open, even all the 24 scientists couldn't. Jesus wasn't a lamb, he was well educated in egypt a very brilliant mathematician and perhaps a chemist because he turned water into wine, that is pure chemistry. Jacob was a scientist he started grafting not mendel. it is there in the bible. Moses had to civilise savage people, that requires a long good studies. Elijah Muhammad is only a 4th grader, and doesn't even know how to speak correctly. Moses spoke well, he did not just understand how to speak to the savages, this was 4000 years ago.

who should be stoned to death? the babies? it was pharoah and harold that ordered the killings of babies.
stoning of the adulterer, yes, it is allowed both the man and the women to be stoned, but the so called jews or fake muslims of today will just punish the woman.

ifeness:


What you are trying to say in a nutshell is that you are concerned about population growth if gay people are allowed to exist right? Nature will take care of all that,BTW there are too many kids out there without parents. Lets adopt some and give them a home.

Question: Should we stone them to death as the bible commanded?

I do not understand what you mean by Elijah Mohammad being a lamb,perhaps you wanna explain more.

i know what transgender is, and they know themselves, they don't mistake who they for somebody else. heaven is not a place, it is a condition.

beryl04:




The term I think u might be looking for is transgender and yes they exist even in our very own nigeria.they need love and care and not condemnation and threat of hell fire.that's d way God created them and I know a lot of them that has left d shores of this shi.t. Hole of a country and they're doing fine in their respective fields of endeavours.
If u don't understand that man can love another man then u need to look away cos it's none of ur damned business.
As for the killing part ,goodluck with that , I'm sure u'll get a medal in heaven,if it ever exists.

Dicksucker:

It's good till you get sense and know that gays were born that way.

dude... seriously smh

have you also heard that in one european country, they want to legalize incest? well before they did that, they have already fashioned it inside our thoughts through the porn industry. so very soon, it will be normal for sons to wed their mon and fathers to daughters.

ifeness:


What you are trying to say in a nutshell is that you are concerned about population growth if gay people are allowed to exist right? Nature will take care of all that,BTW there are too many kids out there without parents. Lets adopt some and give them a home.

Question: Should we stone them to death as the bible commanded?

I do not understand what you mean by Elijah Mohammad being a lamb,perhaps you wanna explain more.

Dicksucker:

Don't worry.
I'm a bisexual.
I will marry you and still have a boyfriend.
Deal?

That's what they want na,hypocrisy.
I'm going to a naming ceremony 2moro of a gay man whose wife just put to bed.
The guy got creative,he rented a 3 bedroom apartment and his boyfriend of so many yrs lives in one of the rooms.
Initial when wifey came,she was made to understand that the bf is a friend and business partner,but the wife has been told d truth over time and funny enuf she doesn't have a problem with d co-habitation thing as long as d hubby is happy!
That's d kinda Nigeria these dolts wants and that's what they're getting.the guy is not even bisexual but gay !

gatiano:
have you also heard that in one european country, they want to legalize incest? well before they did that, they have already fashioned it inside our thoughts through the porn industry. so very soon, it will be normal for sons to wed their mon and fathers to daughters.

And that will happen if nature permits it. Trust me the unbreakable laws of nature are the ultimate. No God,Religion,Culture,belief can go against nature. If nature supports A Father to marry his daughter, so be it.