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Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by nikky52(f): 12:12pm On Nov 30, 2014
No! The only Key to making heaven is HOLINESS.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by kaboninc(m): 12:48pm On Nov 30, 2014
UpLoyo:


Pure ignorance on display, you must really be fascinated with the "as many as the sand of sea shore", you know that's talking about the army for the war right? If you need to display your ignorance pls find someone in your category or as clueless as you seem, I will need to have a word with your Pastor is either you haven't be taught well or you simply refuse to learn. Your presentation is flawed, go work on it, so next time you want to give advice don't start with someone who knows way more than your teacher.

Your really need to review yourself. With the tone of your responses so far, I've come to the conclusion that you have a lot to learn even with you professed Christianity!
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by defendedvictim(m): 1:03pm On Nov 30, 2014
majorgr:
just go and read it for ur self, don't let me do ur studies for U. No offence. When u read it for ur self there will be no need for me to say anything. P.S. I will not be posting any messages here henceforth. Tnx
grin
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by kaboninc(m): 1:18pm On Nov 30, 2014
No wonder the Jews have refused to recognise mainstream Christianity. With the comments I see here, and the opinions of others together with what they preach, someone like me with a true yearning to questions, peace and joy would find it almost difficult if not impossible to at least give God a thought.

No wonder also atheists abound everywhere and are worryingly increasing. The Christians today seem to and favourably too, prefer the New Testament and only refer to the Old Testament when it is convenient. Firstly I believe there's a God who is infallible. I hear the Bible is the Word of God. And I've also heard that 'All scriptures were inspired by God'. But to be honest, the same Bible has some errors, some misrepresentations, some ambiguous statements that are very confusing.

So then is it that some scriptures were deceitfully added because I also believe God cannot lie. On the subject of speaking in tongues, I've noticed the Church today gives it so much attention that this thread was started. But asking myself, did Jesus speak in Tongue? Someone here said speaking in tongue can greatly improve your communication and relationship with God. Really? How about praises? Must I be 'mad' simply because am filled with the Holy Spirit? Jesus as he taught us is loving, kind, sweet, caring and humble. So why then will he make me 'mad' just because am speaking in a new tongue?

Some call themselves Christians but in truth, the are billions of miles away from the Personality of Jesus. Ever wondered while Jehovah's Witnesses are against speaking in tongue?

Those who hype this speaking in tongue thing, don't they know that they are also speaking in a 'tongue'? The same bible told us that God sees our heart. This morning I was just listening to an anchor, at a nearby church speaking in tongue. And I asked my sister, what's she saying?

When I was in school, I attended one of these churches I call 'What's Up Jesus Church'. We were about to start the fellowship and the lady who was to say the opening prayer began to speak in tongues! Haba! Not done, same thing happened before praise and worship singing! So I asked myself did the Holy Spirit just came unto these ladies?
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by samuelite40: 1:25pm On Nov 30, 2014
...for without holiness no man shall see the Lord. Heb 13:14
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Kenny4lyfe(m): 1:34pm On Nov 30, 2014
Must you be white to be an American? But remember that in America some are more equal that others! #StrangeButTrue
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by defendedvictim(m): 1:41pm On Nov 30, 2014
Wefiak1414:
hmm some said I was unconscious some said I was death, but when the power of the Holy ghost came upon me I will dance shout in tongue like babies does. I speak in tongues, heal the sick, raise the death and walk upon the sea. I never thought I could do all these thing until when the Holy ghost was upon me.
grin which of the seas?
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Colonel27: 2:22pm On Nov 30, 2014
Regarding speaking in tongues, the Bible never tells us that we must speak in tongues. A good passage is 1 Cor 12:27-31:

“27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[a]? Do all interpret? 31 But eagerly desire the greater gifts”.

The obvious answer to his rhetorical question (in bold) “No, of course they don’t!”. This idea is picked up earlier in 1 Cor 12:7-11, where different gifts are given to different people as the Spirit determines. This is a really clear answer from the Bible (yay!), the Bible doesn’t tell us that we must speak in tongues.

Which brings us to the second part of your question about whether Christians who speak in tongues are some how superior to those who don’t, or whether we’re missing something. Back in the first passage the last verse says that we are to “eagerly desire the greater gifts” (V31). But V28 tells us that they are more like the gifts of apostleship (which you and I aren’t!), prophecy, teaching etc… In fact, tongues are last on the list! The gift of administration is even above tongues in this ordered list. Sometimes it’s easy to over-emphasise tongues because they look impressive, when really God values other things more highly.

Don’t get me wrong, tongues are still a gift from God and still good, but the exact problem the Christians in Corinth had was that they played a game of one-up-manship based on who had the better gift, and who followed the ‘better’ Apostle - and that’s why Paul hammers them in 3:1 as “mere infants in Christ”. Don’t let whether you speak in tongues or not shake your confidence in Christ!
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by gstoic: 3:29pm On Nov 30, 2014
Read 1 corinthians 14 and judge for yourself.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by martolux(m): 4:05pm On Nov 30, 2014
Elantracey:
No it's not but its the only gift of the holy spirit for you , the rest is for the church .
and where did u put gift of healing?....."these r the sign that will follow those who believe......"
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by spikesC(m): 4:06pm On Nov 30, 2014
Jahniece:



You should read 1Corinth 14 to clarify urself on d issue
of speaking in tongues

Thank you. Learnt more cool


Which still buttressed my point
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Nobody: 5:44pm On Nov 30, 2014
sylve11:


Which speaking in tongue is a gift? cool

Check your bible
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Nobody: 5:50pm On Nov 30, 2014
zynzyn:


Can u compare the tongues of Paul and the Apostles to the 'tongues' of today?? cry

The Biblical tongues was every inch a miraculous sign aimed at converting people.
It made sense to those that were listening! cool

Who told that it made sense ? Or didn't you read they said they were drunk? Can a drunk man make sense?
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Nobody: 7:25pm On Nov 30, 2014
martolux:
and where did u put gift of healing?....."these r the sign that will follow those who believe......"

When you heal someone who benefits ? All gifts of the holy spirit is for the church but speaking in tongues is for you paul said he that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifies himself , you can check your dictionary for the meaning of edify.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by jbaby265(f): 7:27pm On Nov 30, 2014
majorgr:
After rapture or correctly said after the catching away of the church, there wud be immediately the great tribulations which will last for about 3.5 years, in which 144000 Jews wud be saved, immediately after this, we are told that Jesus will be coming back with His saint and will rule for 1000yrs in which Satan wud be cast into the bottomless pit. Yes, before the new earth and new Heavens. We are going to rule the earth with Jesus for a thousand yrs before the adversary wud be released from his pit to deceive the world to fight Christ. This could only mean one thing, we are coming back home but this time to rule with Christ.
soo on ponit
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by martolux(m): 7:30pm On Nov 30, 2014
Elantracey:


When you heal someone who benefits ? All gifts of the holy spirit is for the church but speaking in tongues is for you paul said he that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifies himself , you can check your dictionary for the meaning of edify.
you are still not getting it..study d bible more and ask the holy spirit for d deep interpretation of God's word. may God bless your soul.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Adwexky(m): 7:44pm On Nov 30, 2014
Are you saying all the fore fathers will make Heaven, that certainly depends on their deeds and genuine service to God whilst on earth.
Princecalm:
Did our fore-fathers speak in tongues?. Certainly not or will you say they did not make Heaven.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Adwexky(m): 7:46pm On Nov 30, 2014
tonybosses:
Nope that does not count.... we av d fruits nd. gifts of d spirit... speaking in tongues is a gift of d spirit on d last day wt would matter isn't d gift of d spirit but the firuits of the spirit....

Speaking in tongues is for effective communication nd relationship wt u and ur father in heaven





Good morning
What is the essence of Speaking in Tongues, without being able to interpret it?
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by UpLoyo: 7:59pm On Nov 30, 2014
kaboninc:


Your really need to review yourself. With the tone of your responses so far, I've come to the conclusion that you have a lot to learn even with you professed Christianity!

And your point it? Sorry I have no tolerance for mediocrity; If you don't know something stop acting like you know. There's not point trying to sound smart when you have nothing to offer. You are only fooling yourself.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by UpLoyo: 8:06pm On Nov 30, 2014
prinznazzy:

Ur use of word is really makin me feel sad 4 u....wnt criticise u anyway....bt I'm sure u hav learnt armageddon isn't d only war..dats wat brought up dis argument......too sori dat u hav over trusted watever ur john hayee taught u.......ma bro, believe in d bible...dats wat helped us to initially acpt christianity...nt sayin u shuldnt listen to wat ppl say, I do dat n it expands ma knowledge...n if it goes contrary to d bible, i just allow it b

Your assumptions are too much. I recommended what will benefit your life and increase your knowledge. You can't even clearly quote a simple name correctly that I gave you...lol; Sorry you cannot call me your bro either, do you even know if I'm a guy or a girl? Stop assuming what you don't know it will help you greatly in life.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Princecalm(m): 8:39pm On Nov 30, 2014
Adwexky:
Are you saying all the fore fathers will make Heaven, that certainly depends on their deeds and genuine service to God whilst on earth.
not everyone made it but the question still remains did they follow the speaking in tongues or being baptized before making heaven.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Nobody: 1:55am On Dec 01, 2014
prinznazzy:

Here is wat I learnt n it made pretty much sense.....some ppl would b truly saved by dr works, some by mere grace.....n dey wuld all b tempted again by satan after d 1000yrs....cos satan wuld hav followers still dat wuld merge wit him 4 d 2nd war at gog n magog?...think d 1st is at armageddon

If all saints are going to rule here on earth, who are they going to rule? That is the question.

And make your outline of events clear and with appropriate scripture. It seems your view differ from the reason I asked the question.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Adwexky(m): 6:54am On Dec 01, 2014
John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Salvation is the requirement for making Heaven and what is salvation, salvation simply means the act of being saved through Christ Jesus, who is the lamb of God. Thereafter all these come after salvation, you are Baptize by the Holy Ghost after salvation and water baptism also comes after salvation.
*The things of the Kingdom of God does not manifest with immediate effects, it takes processes. Remember the disciples did not received Holy Ghost Immediately after Repentance/Salvation.
Princecalm:
not everyone made it but the question still remains did they follow the speaking in tongues or being baptized before making heaven.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Nobody: 8:08am On Dec 01, 2014
JMAN05:


If all saints are going to rule here on earth, who are they going to rule? That is the question.

And make your outline of events clear and with appropriate scripture. It seems your view differ from the reason I asked the question.
Rule in d sense of "reign"...whr dey hav a peaceful regime compared to times of exceedingly fierce persecution.... whr dr's no opposition to good 4 a millenium...satan is bound in prison and no 1 is unda is temptation....its cos of his temptations dat evil erupted in d 1st place....witout it 4 a thousand years, every1 wuld b at peace...no 1 is ruling over any1....just a peaceful reign 4 every1 on earth....revelations 20 as a whole wuld clarify dis...especially verses 4,5 and 6....dose 1s talks abt d ppl dat wuld reign wit christ, n d rest of d dead wuld resurrect afta d 1000 yrs n b tempted by d devil 4 his 2nd war....whoever takes part in d 1st resurrection I.e dose dat reigned wit christ 4 a thousand years, d 2nd death has no power ova dem
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Nobody: 8:17am On Dec 01, 2014
UpLoyo:


Your assumptions are too much. I recommended what will benefit your life and increase your knowledge. You can't even clearly quote a simple name correctly that I gave you...lol; Sorry you cannot call me your bro either, do you even know if I'm a guy or a girl? Stop assuming what you don't know it will help you greatly in life.
I'm nt a saint.....n I'm nt blindin myself over anythn either....all wat u claim r assumptions are wat I hav related to u in d bible....read ur bible wit holy spirit guidin u.....
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by zynzyn(m): 12:41pm On Dec 01, 2014
Elantracey:


Who told that it made sense ? Or didn't you read they said they were drunk? Can a drunk man make sense?

Obviously you have not read that passage well. It says some of those who heard them made fun of them that they were drunk. The author (Luke) never said they were drunk!

If u believe Apostles of Jesus were actually drunk while preaching, what do u actually believe?!
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Princecalm(m): 7:07pm On Dec 02, 2014
Adwexky:
John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Salvation is the requirement for making Heaven and what is salvation, salvation simply means the act of being saved through Christ Jesus, who is the lamb of God. Thereafter all these come after salvation, you are Baptize by the Holy Ghost after salvation and water baptism also comes after salvation.
*The things of the Kingdom of God does not manifest with immediate effects, it takes processes. Remember the disciples did not received Holy Ghost Immediately after Repentance/Salvation.
what are you really emphasizing on?
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Adwexky(m): 10:37pm On Dec 02, 2014
Being saved is the requirement for making Heaven and what is salvation, salvation is the act of being saved through Christ Jesus, who is the lamb of God. Thereafter, water baptism also comes after salvation and water baptism is meaningless and ineffective to an unsaved person and you are subsequently, Baptized by the Holy Ghost.
Princecalm:
what are you really emphasizing on?
Please Note that the above stipulated points are picked from the exemplary life of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the core focus of Christianity.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Princecalm(m): 11:10pm On Dec 02, 2014
Adwexky:
Being saved is the requirement for making Heaven and what is salvation, salvation is the act of being saved through Christ Jesus, who is the lamb of God. Thereafter, water baptism also comes after salvation and water baptism is meaningless and ineffective to an unsaved person and you are subsequently, Baptized by the Holy Ghost.
Please Note that the above stipulated points are picked from the exemplary life of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the core focus of Christianity.
and there i ask,can one make heaven without the physical baptism.?
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Adwexky(m): 10:28am On Dec 03, 2014
And there I said SALVATION is the primary requisite for making heaven. Consider this, if a man seek for genuine salvation, forsaking his old ways and God forgive him his sins but the following day, he died, will he make heaven or not?
He will, 'cos he is saved.
Princecalm:
and there i ask,can one make heaven without the physical baptism.?
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by Princecalm(m): 2:53pm On Dec 03, 2014
Adwexky:
And there I said SALVATION is the primary requisite for making heaven. Consider this, if a man seek for genuine salvation, forsaking his old ways and God forgive him his sins but the following day, he died, will he make heaven or not?
He will, 'cos he is saved.
and that is why i always say that speaking in tongues,baptising or going to church is not a compulsory ingredient for making heaven.
Re: Must A Christian Speak In Tongue Before He Could Make Heaven? by dein77(m): 3:22pm On Dec 03, 2014
I'm actually surprised this unnecessary argument is still ongoing!

Why argue a matter so clear in the Bible?

The ONLY criteria needed to make Heaven is to be BORN AGAIN.

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