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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Youngzedd(m): 9:07am On Dec 05, 2014
davide470:
If 2011 is part of your Last 3 years, see below

Thanks for the info.

Can I have the Web address.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 9:16am On Dec 05, 2014
ihedioramma:
for the last three years know, but this year it will go down below #9 if not today self .

We are waiting at 5 naira

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by sellydion: 9:19am On Dec 05, 2014
davide470:
If 2011 is part of your Last 3 years, see below


The least in the last 10 year is between N7- N8 . I notice that traders are vigorously defending N9 level.

Let us see how market unfold today.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by davide470(m): 9:32am On Dec 05, 2014
Youngzedd:


Thanks for the info.

Can I have the Web address.
Source: Bloomberg. Paid Subscription.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Moneysage: 10:21am On Dec 05, 2014
E be like say na oga Dumexy wake up all dem NSEMPA faithfuls. cheesy

@Oga FranklinRich: Just to buttress what Elai 147 said, companies have been manipulating FS since 1914 and they institutionalized it in 1983, the year of our Lord (sorry, NSE).

In fact, we should trust no-one, including ourselves; 'cause we could be the one manipulating fundamental analysis to our own 'advantage'. :QED

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ihedioramma: 10:41am On Dec 05, 2014
Agbalowomeri:


We are waiting at 5 naira
one love but it may not get to #6
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 10:43am On Dec 05, 2014
Elai147:


There are many cases of financial manipulation all over the world market and so many ways of perpetrating it. We should employ extreme caution while conducting our so-called fundamental analysis. Some of us (including me) use this type of analysis to make investment decisions and think we know what we are doing but the truth is far from that when we consider our investment environment.

Exactly.. I even noticed that some stocks have even been gaining 10% for about 3days now. Which makes you wonder.

This bear season is really bloody.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 10:47am On Dec 05, 2014
FranklinRich:


I am not sure I understand what the companies are manipulating. From the little I know, Book value is a function of a company's net assets and outstanding number of shares which are balance sheet items.

Ikeja Hotel is a perfect example of a manipulated stock..Even bear market no gree let am fall. Haba!!

@feelamong, u go share your ikeja hotel loot for us ooh
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chillykelly86(m): 11:00am On Dec 05, 2014
Present.

Any crumbs from the children's table? grin

I want to pick so that they don't waste ...
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by feelamong(m): 11:13am On Dec 05, 2014
Born2berich:


Ikeja Hotel is a perfect example of a manipulated stock..Even bear market no gree let am fall. Haba!!

@feelamong, u go share your ikeja hotel loot for us ooh

hahaha...bros this one never reach N5 naaa...

But seriously i had a N4 target for this one and i have given my brokers orders...

at least we can get to do a good xmas small.. just pm me..
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mpi210: 11:24am On Dec 05, 2014
sellydion:



The least in the last 10 year is between N7- N8 . I notice that traders are vigorously defending N9 level.

Let us see how market unfold today.

Dem go tire....
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by 9free(m): 11:27am On Dec 05, 2014
feelamong:


hahaha...bros this one never reach N5 naaa...

But seriously i had a N4 target for this one and i have given my brokers orders...

at least we can get to do a good xmas small.. just pm me..

shocked shocked shocked
Bros, e be like say na only you go enjoy this Christmas o
See hammering
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by FranklinRich: 11:33am On Dec 05, 2014
Did I just see FBNH @ N8.99? The Bears on rampage on this one.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 11:37am On Dec 05, 2014
FranklinRich:
Did I just see FBNH @ N8.99? The Bears on rampage on this one.

Bought this stock for the first time ever. Got it for that price also.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mpi210: 11:46am On Dec 05, 2014
FranklinRich:
Did I just see FBNH @ N8.99? The Bears on rampage on this one.

44m on offer vs 16m on bid....

The people fighting to keep it at N9 go tire
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 12:03pm On Dec 05, 2014
sellydion:



The least in the last 10 year is between N7- N8 . I notice that traders are vigorously defending N9 level.

Let us see how market unfold today.



Watching
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 12:19pm On Dec 05, 2014
ausdy:
brother pls I'm very interested to know more about this very issue as I have few shares with them and I don't think I can buy this offer. Pls can you shed more light on the (dilution) matter? Thanx so much.

The dilution means the percentage of your holdings in the company is now reduced. Assuming the company has 1 billion outstanding shares and you own 100 million shares of it, this means your holding in the company is 10%. If the company is issuing 500 million shares in the form of rights, the total outstanding shares will now be 1.5 billion meaning your holding has now reduced to 6.7% (assuming you didn't take up your right). But if you took your right at the given ratio, your holdings will not be diluted because you will still own 10% of the company. Rights are usually issued at a discount to current market price of the stock but I don't know what Oando is doing and cannot categorically tell you why the right is being issued above current market price. This should be a question for either the gods or our ogas in NSEMPA.

Please I am not saying you should take up your right or that you may be getting a bargain if you take up the right. I was only trying to describe the rationality behind taking up ones right as asked by Omoxonomy. The decision lies with you as the shareholder after your due diligence. You need to ask yourself why the company has decided to raise money by issuing more shares and diluting your holdings. There must be a reason (financial difficulties or expansion, perhaps) why the company needs money. If the shareholders decide to take up these rights, whether the company will use the money for the purpose it was meant for is another question for the gods. There is also a question of what the ex-right value of your shares will be as the share price is expected to drop after the right issue to reflect the newly issued shares at the "supposed" discount. These are part of the due diligence you do before deciding whether to take, abandon or sell your right.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 12:30pm On Dec 05, 2014
Born2berich:


Exactly.. I even noticed that some stocks have even been gaining 10% for about 3days now. Which makes you wonder.

This bear season is really bloody.

I fear who no fear NSE sha...
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 12:33pm On Dec 05, 2014
ihedioramma:
for the last three years know, but this year it will go down below #9 if not today self .

FranklinRich:
Did I just see FBNH @ N8.99? The Bears on rampage on this one.

You need to start believing our Pastor grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 12:39pm On Dec 05, 2014
walcolm:


dilution means your percentage holding will be reduced....for me the only advantage rights issue brings is that it reduces my cost of purchase...unfortunately, Oando has priced this right issue above the current market price which is not a good sign

i will rather buy the no of units i'm entitled to on the floor of the exchange than buy my rights at a higher price

I agree with you since it is cheaper to buy on the floor (except there is something else we're missing). However, if the right issue were to be a normal one unlike Oando's own, buying the equivalent units of your right from the floor @market price will not stop the dilution on your previous holding.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chukyjones(m): 12:46pm On Dec 05, 2014
mpi210:


44m on offer vs 16m on bid....

The people fighting to keep it at N9 go tire

mehn, the force keeping FBN from going below N9...
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mpi210: 12:58pm On Dec 05, 2014
chukyjones:


mehn, the force keeping FBN from going below N9...

No be small thing
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by immanuello(m): 12:59pm On Dec 05, 2014
chukyjones:


mehn, the force keeping FBN from going below N9...
Dont worry by d time oil fall to $40 when d Iran supplies hit oil mart then naira might be more devaluated and stockmart will feel it especially banking stocks.Then fbnh may be at #4.50-#5.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 1:00pm On Dec 05, 2014
mpi210:


44m on offer vs 16m on bid....

The people fighting to keep it at N9 go tire




Now 40m offer VS 29m bid
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by stcool(m): 2:04pm On Dec 05, 2014
mpi210:


No be small thing

May be if u don't buy now, FBN Capital and IBTC would sell it to you later at N12, and you will be buying with all smiles...just saying grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chukyjones(m): 2:30pm On Dec 05, 2014
mpi210:


44m on offer vs 16m on bid....

The people fighting to keep it at N9 go tire

e be like say them don tire small
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mpi210: 2:30pm On Dec 05, 2014
stcool:


May be if u don't buy now, FBN Capital and IBTC would sell it to you later at N12, and you will be buying with all smiles...just saying grin

We broke the 9 resistance finally.......lol!!!

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 3:21pm On Dec 05, 2014
Elai147:


I agree with you since it is cheaper to buy on the floor (except there is something else we're missing). However, if the right issue were to be a normal one unlike Oando's own, buying the equivalent units of your right from the floor @market price will not stop the dilution on your previous holding.

Master, you lost me here. Mathematically, it will.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Bwave: 3:35pm On Dec 05, 2014
lancee:





Now 40m offer VS 29m bid

pls where do you get the bid and offer info
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 3:45pm On Dec 05, 2014
Bwave:


pls where do you get the bid and offer info


You can get it on morgan capital group , when trading is goin on
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Charlesnerd: 4:12pm On Dec 05, 2014
kotlass:

Master, you lost me here. Mathematically, it will.

Elai147:

I agree with you since it is cheaper to buy on the floor (except there is something else we're missing). However, if the right issue were to be a normal one unlike Oando's own, buying the equivalent units of your right from the floor @market price will not stop the dilution on your previous holding.

Mathematically,it will. Just that you would have to pay more than you would, if you had gone for the rights which normally trades at a discount to the market price.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Charlesnerd: 5:05pm On Dec 05, 2014
stcool:


May be if u don't buy now, FBN Capital and IBTC would sell it to you later at N12, and you will be buying with all smiles...just saying grin

Is it permissible for FBN capital to trade on the shares of FBNH?

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