malvisguy212:
it's a choice,you love God or you Reject Him,concerning the wife of cain;bible does not specifically say it only cain and abel was the son of adam,. Although Cain
does seem to be the firstborn, the text is not clear
that Abel was the second born, but only that he was
the second son. Later, the narrative indicates that
Adam and Eve produced "other sons and
daughters." So, it is possible that Adam and Eve
produced daughters between the births of Cain and
Abel. It is also likely that others sons and daughters
were produced after the birth of Abel. We don't know how old Cain and Abel were when Cain murdered his brother, but they seem to be at least young adults, since they are both engage in a trade. for their
living.

Although the period of time between the birth of
Cain and the death of Abel is not given in the Bible, it would seem that this period was probably over 100 years, since the birth of Adam's next son, Seth is said to have occurred when Adam was 130 years old. Adam and Eve could have produced many daughters during that period of time.
It is possible cain would have marry one of this sister,God caused him may have lead to this.

joseph1013:


Meaning that God allowed In.ce.st? According to the biblical scriptures, In.ce.st is forbidden.

“Never have sexual intercourse with anyone related to you by blood. I am the Lord." Leviticus 18:6 (God's Word Translation)

Abuamam:
When you guys want to knock 'Religion', please specify the Religion you are knocking, so that we don't waste our time clicking on a topic that does not concern us.

Furthermore, you cannot condemn all religion; (as your title implies); if you are disenchanted with just one. It's like I have a bad experience with one vehicle and I conclude that all models of all types of vehicle are useless.

malvisguy212:
all of these events
happened before the law was given. According to the
Apostle Paul, when there is no law, there can be no
violation of the law or sin. So, since the law against
incest was not given until thousands of years later,
there was no theological problem with Cain marrying his sister.however,God is all knowing so he know what cain did was wrong,like I say earlier God caused to him may have lead to this.

You are free to choose to love God or hate him, it your choice.thank you.

malvisguy212: all of these events
happened before the law was given. According to the
Apostle Paul, when there is no law, there can be no
violation of the law or sin.

ooman:


great, so those who have never head of the bible will not be judged right? they will just go straight to heaven even if they are criminals? Am talking about those whom your gospel never got to in the past before they died.

since

malvisguy212:
they will here the gospel,as long as the world is not yet come to end,it may mean some people has not heard.
bible say the gospel shall be preach to all nation then the end will come,it not yet the end of the world so this question is invalid. However there are evidence that say the gospel has been preach to most nation.

ooman:


I thought I made it clear that I was referring to those who are dead, in the past, whom the bible never got to.

malvisguy212:
those who died before the coming of jesus are judge base on there work, the book of revelation made this clear.

ooman:


ok, so Cain too will be judged for in.cest by 'work' right?

malvisguy212:
God has already judge cain after he killed his brother,all the event happen before the promise(gifft) of God has been fulfilled in the person of christ jesus,so yes God judge him according to his work.

malvisguy212:
all of these events happened before the law was given. According to the Apostle Paul, when there is no law, there can be no violation of the law or sin. So, since the law against Inbreeding was not given until thousands of years later, there was no theological problem with Cain marrying his sister.

ooman:


I thought I made it clear that I was referring to those who are dead, in the past, whom the bible never got to.

honourhim:


You have a conscience right? Those who never came across the bible or the word of God in the past before they died will be judged according to their conscience. There are basic wrongs which you dont even need anybody to tell you that you are wrong when you do them. Your conscience pricks you immediately you do them, once it happens and you feel sorry about it and refrain from doing them again it means you have a genuine intention to live right.

God will always minister the truth to us in our hearts or through someone or a book or however, the way we react to it is what matters.

ooman:


Ok, but this contradicts what you said here...


If there was no 'theological problem ' with Cain marrying his sister, why then should he be judged for it? Work or not!

malvisguy212:
the law has not yet made active, is no theological problem but GOD IS ALL KNOWING, God judge him however that was not the sin that lead to his judgment, he was a murderer. Thank you for your time. My battery is low.

ooman:


Does god minister the truth to atheists too?

honourhim:


Some atheists knew the truth in the past but deliberately rejected it because they felt it was too bitter for them to swallow, it restricts their freedom to engage in some of the things they want to do. Such people hardly open their heart to the truth

Some became atheists out of confusion and such people are always willing to take another step again in their walk with God when they receive light to some extent in some of the dark areas.

Some others were born atheists and when such people earnestly desire to know the truth about God, He never fails to minister to such people when they are sincere in their search.

aaronson:
,I'm ATHIEST and FREETHINKER...with my mental power of cognition I wouldn't wanna choose the wrong path if I really know there is a God whom they claim is the right path but Truth be told,If there really is a God then the door to that right path is under Lock and key considering the level of evil and impunity in the world and God still sat there looking like he's waiting on Nigerian phcn to restore power.
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ooman:


Uhm, ok but does god minister the truth to atheists who are practical atheists presently, like me? That is the question and it requires a simpe yes or no.

honourhim:


Yes God ministers the truth to you and to everybody but its the state of your heart in accepting his message that is the issue.

ooman:


Ok, to begin with, how do I know which god exactly is ministering to me and how do I know if what he's ministering is the "truth"?
And what is this truth?

honourhim:


Do you sincerely have a hunger for righteousness? A hunger to know God and serve him in spirit and in truth?

frosbel:
Nice article but I will not go as far as disputing the existence of God because it is just too evident to suggest otherwise. But let's leave that for another debate.

Religion and Christianity in particular only flourished till today because they used torture, fear and superstition to deter their members from leaving the fold. In the middle ages, to question any Christian doctrine or priest was to invite either prison, death or exile and so freedom of expression was not permitted. Many who dared to flow against the tide were brutally oppressed or killed.

Now that we are in the information and freedom age, we have tons and tons of material at our immediate disposal to carry out research into previously held truths or beliefs.

Like you I am an avid reader, reviewer and researcher into Christianity and the can I opened from my due diligence on this religion has so many worms that some times I just have to take some time off to bask in multiple phews !!!

For example, when I discovered that a lot of the prophecies in the gospel of Matthew were either wrongly applied or fabricated, that shook me. Then the trinity, hell fire and many other doctrines I found to be false and this triggered a zeal for more study.

My question to all of us and you the OP is, when you find one LIE in a book you begin to wonder how many more lies may lie therein. When you discover that most of the doctrines you once cherished were pagan in origin and mostly myths you ask yourself how much of the bible is truth, myth and fables.

It can get scary for a new believer or younger person especially when their pastors warn them to avoid further research with the consequence of hell or excommunication and other threats to stifle knowledge acquisition and application.

My stance is this, any religion or GOD that discourages reason , logic and investigation into TRUTH is not REAL.

So while we have similar stories , I just want to say that despite the flaws in the bible, my belief in God still stands, but my trust in Christianity and churches in general is weak.

ooman:


Which god?

honourhim:


You are playing ojoro here. A book that contains many lies according to you yet you still believe in the God which the book talked about. If you are sincere enough then drop the book and the God of the book and find another elsewhere. Stop messing yourself up by playing the middle man game.

N/B.
Kindly go and answer the questions i asked you in the thread you opened or live with the shame of not answering them. Mr teacher, teach me or bear the shame.