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Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by herald9: 11:48am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Kelgabriel5: What Did Jesus use the myrrh for? And by the way,If you give a present to a new born baby,Who will actually take the present? Get wisdom and in all thy getting...get understanding. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Nwokenna: 11:54am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Truman155:This is the most excellent response I have read through all these ramblings. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by nnemmpi(m): 11:57am On Dec 21, 2014 |
the only thing i know is that i was born a catholic and by the grace of GOD almighty i will die at old age as catholic.in s/east where i hail 99percent families started as catholic before doing jumpology. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by jeffoe(m): 11:58am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage:fundamentalist or evangelist or what do you call yourself you can't engage the church with 100 of thousands of theologians and apologist with doctorate with your 3month sunday bible school knowledge, the church keeps praying for you. read fundamentalism and Catholicism by Keating the apologist explains the basic of all you fundamentalist believe and places it side by side with what Catholics believe. note: do u have a problem with the prayers in the rosary because there is nothing pagan in the prayer if there is point it out 80% of the prayer can be found in the bible do u have problems with the beads but u don't have a problem with praying and holding your Bible in your hands or reciting this predefined born again prayer that u guys tell those new proselyte of yours did Jesus also asked you to do that. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by titoetal(m): 12:05pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9: My dear, the celebration of the Holy Mass by Catholic is both worship and Sacrifice, amd a re-enactment of the Calvery Sacrifice in an unbloody manner. God never condemn the use of images or sign by humans rather it is giving those images a status of worship which should be for God and God alone. Let me state for you here categorically that Catholics do not worship images rather they are only a physical sign. Philosophically, the human nature requires external signs in order to raise the spirit to divine things. Hence the images and signs of the old Testament, and God Himself gave Moses and prophets of old those injuctions which Christ said in Matt 5:17 that He did not come to abolish rather to make them more effective. Yes we burn incenses, candles and other rites which you claim are peganism as being practiced by Catholics. However, the Catholics faith believes in the Holy Scripture and the Sacred Tradition and we are proud to stand by it. We do not condemn other peoples's faith and believe either. The Gospel I will preach to you today is the gospel of Love and Good Character. You claimed the Catholics do not read the Scriptures but many christians carry the Bible around and that has not reduced evil and atrocities amongs christians folks. You know what is good and likewise do I. So lets live the golden rule bro. Peace be with you. 4 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Kylekent59: 12:07pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage:in that same bible did Abraham,Isaac and Jacob even Elijah,did they call the name of Jesus while praying? See leave all man to his stand only the end shall tell |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by IgrigiMercenery: 12:13pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
9jacrip: **grins** Deolu, The difference between Deism and traditional/Animism is? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by rossyc(f): 12:13pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage:. Go and read the gospel according to luke chapter 1. Verse 26 down. Yes Hail Mary is in the bible. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Kelgabriel5(m): 12:14pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:u were askn were it was in d bible,i shwd u, u've nw diverted to it's use.Myrrh signified dat his(GOD'S) body was incorruptible.your God is more wiser dan u 2 accept d myrrh(incence) gift thru his mother & foster father |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by SwTeee(f): 12:19pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
The catholic church is still waxing strong with the highest population of Christians in the world.Proudly catholic |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by urchbarbie(f): 12:25pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Rather than opening dis thread to debunk scriptural references, why not open a thread to win souls for Christ. We were sent to d world to make disciples of nations, not turn against our brethren. @least we all believe dat no eye would see God unless he be bornagain. So many ppl out dere don't av Christ in them. Preach to them. Convert them. And kindly stop this fight in the name of church superiority 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by mayor007(m): 12:25pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
But why do most Christians detest Catholicism? Always waiting for an opportunity to lampoon their doctrines. Live and let live, people plus what makes you think your religion is the only way to heaven. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by onoerime: 12:27pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony:hahahahahahahaha I can't laugh o. May God lead us |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by virus04(m): 12:28pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Please stop going to catholic church. Since when u guyz(Catholics) have been reading d bible havent you come across this? "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God" <br/> abi una no get eyes.. Yhu guyz dont eat meat on good friday.. Sorry 4 u. Read 1st timothy 4:1-5 "the spirit say clearly some people will abandon faith in later times and obey lying spirits.. Such people that teach it is wrong to marry and eat certain foods" make rev sister no go marry. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Tallesty1(m): 12:34pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo:I am not interested in the argument going on here and I wouldn't wanna continue after this comment. I am replying you because you are misleading people with your wrong interpretations and quotes from the scriptures. Your comment has gathered likes which means that people actually believe the interpretation you gave here. Whoever cause a brother to stumble is guilty of his sins. @The emboldened: Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.. The incense you see here is not ordinary incense. They are prayers of the saints. Psalm 141:2 Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice. ^^That is the incense you see in Rev 5:8. It is not the type they burn in church. And to contribute to the debate, I think Christians have freedom to or not to burn incense but it is no longer necessary to burn incense to approach God, if we believe what is in Hebrews 9:11-14. So it all boils down to why we are burning the incense. After the burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, the veil between the Holy Place and the Holy of Holies has been removed ( Matthew 27:50-51). The Law has been fulfilled ( Matthew 5:17) we can approach God with confidence and full assurance of faith.(Hebrews 10:19-22). So if your reason of burning incense is to increase the power of your prayers or to appear more pleasing to God, then you are falling into the trap. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by bennygreat1(m): 12:34pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
CMARY: You re blessed my brother... You gave a very salient and notable points.. A true Catholic.. That's you.. Thanks. 2 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Jimmyo3(m): 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
CMARY:Please stop comparing humans with God,He alone knows why He did all u've mentioned.But He strictly warned human to stay away from such even when Jesus came He confirmed the ten commandment...JESUS Himself said we should worship the Father in Spirit and in Truth and not in or with images...Please stop siting instances with a higher and sovereign entity to justify the doom of millions of people... |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by iscom(m): 12:40pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Where is the ark of God in your church? Read these verses to know why churches use image. Number 8-1-4 1samuel 6-8-20 Number 15-32-36 Number 21-4-9 1 chronicle 16 1 chronicle 15-1-3 1 chronicle 13-14 |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Cheriepet: 12:43pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
[quote author=JeffreyJamez post=29071861] Lol OK....me.....everything about erm doesn't gel with me....well..... I believe one of the greatest gift God gave to Man is FREEWILL... so whatever rocks your boat..... *swallows Malaria pills and squeezes face*...damn I hate drugs!!! [/quote] Ntoooooorrrrrrrr..... lol... i will send nurse Angela to u |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 12:45pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Cheriepet: I go chook her needle if you send her come here....na you I want o!! |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by titoetal(m): 12:53pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage: Dear without any offence, this your question has shown that though you may be reading the Scriptures but without understanding. I will only refer you to the portion to read but pray that the Holy Spirit interprete the meaning for you. Rd. Luke Chapter 1 verses 26 to 45, 48. Likewise most people who attack Catholic practices and tradition do not know that they are Scriptural. All you young generation of christians that do not know the depth of the Scripture, please next time do your search and study well then pray for Spiritual direction before you question what you do not understand. The Church (Catholic) gave the Christian world the full Scripture as it is today and any proclaimation made by the Church thereafter can not go contrary to the Scripture as the church Theologians and successors of the Apostles are aways guided by the Holy Spirit. If the church ever made any proclaimation in error, they will openly correct itself. Dear, there is more work for you and I to do as Christians to make the world a better place wherever we choose to stay and do that. Ordinarily I do not fancy responding to critisim against the Catholic church but to throw a little light for those who wish to reason along. See earlier post on similar question. titoetal: Peace be with you. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by jeffoe(m): 12:53pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:did Jesus go to Church or temple/synagogue did Jesus pay tight did Jesus adhered to the Saturday Sabbath or the lords day. did Jesus asked the disciple to compile/read the new testament did jesus did Jesus did Jesus Jesus founded a living church which shouldd grow and make certain decision as was noticed by the early church. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Cheriepet: 12:56pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
JeffreyJamez: I am unavaliable @ d moment what abt nurse CJ? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 1:00pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Cheriepet: Nurse CJ is busy.......better be available |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Christeety: 1:01pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:. Like seriously...Incense is a sin to God?? What an absurd statement. Now you are making case that the Bowl of Incense CAN BE SAID to be the prayer of the righteous. Why change the literal meaning. I'd rather prefer churches that worship GOD like the one described in Revelation. Bowing of Head to worship our God, Altar, Procession, Candles etc. The feeling is HEAVENLY. Someone talked about Catholic funny hymns...i just laughed. Spiritual hymns can't be compared to recent days pentecostal songs. Pls i urge all Christians not to compare Churches. Each church has its own Spiritual Gifts. Moses calling was different from David. Choose the one you prefer and dont judge. Judge not that ye be not judged. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Cheriepet: 1:05pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
JeffreyJamez: ok |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Cheriepet: I'm waiting o.. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by CMARY(m): 1:07pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Jimmyo3:My brother why should i not cite God's actions of the past? Are God's acts whether past, present and future not for our own benefits and for us to imitate? The same Jesus You are quoting tells you to be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect in Matt 5vs48. So what is wrong in imitating the perfect God in his actions even if they are past? In Matt5vs17 Jesus said clearly that he has come not to abolish the Law and the prophets but to fulfil them. If i don't imitate God in his actions who should i imitate you? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Cheriepet: 1:09pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
JeffreyJamez: dat will b in 72hrs so b patient |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 1:17pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Cheriepet: Na dead body you wan come carry be that o |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Cheriepet: 1:19pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
JeffreyJamez: abeg o no die oooo... ok i dey come now |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 1:21pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Cheriepet: Better!! |
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