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Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by tommysparks: 1:21pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:what you are saying in essence is this is a new age so let's abandon the old testament. I wonder where the quotation for tithing will come from and the place of ten commandments. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by crudedude(m): 1:21pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
titoetal: The bolded is not true. There's this air of superiority with most Catholics I met. They may deny it but a little talking about scriptures and it pops up. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Cheriepet: 1:24pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
JeffreyJamez: Manipulator |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by chisombenedicta(f): 1:25pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage:sure it is in the bible,dont be too quick to judge..open ur bible to luke 1:28,luke 1:42 |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Nobody: 1:25pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9: I have some questions for you: @ 1st bolded, is the Holy Bible the word of God or just the New Testament? what part of the old doctrines are we suppose to abandon? The entire old doctrines or some we perceived are "not good"? Note: if we must abandon the old doctrines we must abandon it in its entirety. We can't choose which to obey and not. Why do Pentecostal pastors still request for tithes? (That's part of old doctrine) there was no part in the New Testament where it was mentioned. @2nd bolded, Buddhism, Judaism and the likes also give offering in their worships, should Christians stop giving offering in churches as a result of that? If tomorrow traditional worshippers start calling on the name of Jesus as part of their rituals, would you advise Christians to stop using the name of Jesus? Note: look you can't choose how you want to worship God! Do you know if God has a way he wants to be worshipped? No matter how foolish that method may look in the sight of humans. Go and read about the early churches how they worshipped God. Christ said upon this rock I will build my church, Peter was the 1st pope and he was with Christ Himself so go and read how they worshipped in the time of St. Peter and co. After all, there were no Christians in the time of Christ, Christianity started after Christ had died and resurrected. Lastly, do you know why Christ said He has not come to abolish the law? It is because he understood that God can never be wrong, if God had formulated the laws and he had told the people how to worship him, he cannot wake someday and say sorry people I think I have made a mistake, what I told you was wrong, there's a new way I want you to worship Me. God can never be wrong! He is the God that sees the end from the beginning! 2 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Citadelbot: 1:27pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
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Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 1:28pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Cheriepet: No be you teach me?..lol |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Cheriepet: 1:31pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by JeffreyJamez(m): 1:32pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Cheriepet: O se!!...... hehehehe ....Nurse cherie is coming to shook my bumbum *dancing sekem* |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by lezz(m): 1:46pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
herald9:I have followed this post and seen that, although you appear polite but you have a deep proud spirit that rejects truth and facts. And quit writting in embolden letters; we are not as blind as you are. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by herald9: 1:55pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
lezz: Sorry sir |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by herald9: 1:58pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Please lemme go confess my sins to the Pope... Before you guys burn me on a stake 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by titoetal(m): 2:03pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
crudedude: If you are talking of condemnation and when I said "We", I meant the Catholic church and it teaches that God is for all humans and not the God of Catholics. Niether can I be holier than the Pope and as examplified by each Pope by visiting and praying with all faiths. As an individual, I will treat you as a human first but if you attack my faith and believe, I will try to make you see reason why I stood where I am but most atimes, I do wish you see the individuality in me first. It is true no man is perfect but there are good people in different faiths being practiced in the world. Will God refuse to accept them because they are not Protestants or Catholics, Lutherans, Moslems, Hindus, Judasim and what have you? Dear, we have more better things to do than these arguments to make the world a better place. In your little world (your environment), be the Light and the one to be trusted. In summary, be the Truth. Peace be with you. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by debraobas(f): 2:09pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
The end shall tell,proud 2 be a catholic. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by chibecanglobal(m): 2:12pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony:No,Fatimah is in Portugal |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Jimmyo3(m): 2:13pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
CMARY:So what is the way forward since imitating his actions is contradicting his command? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Anaskie(m): 2:13pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
urchbarbie:This is why I love you. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Anas09: 2:19pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Hmmmmmmmm. Sitting back and reading all the bickerings, for that's what I will call it, bickering. You all should know that, the word of God is a two edged sword, to some it cuts down, and to some it pruns. The instructions are exsplicit. But most of us have decided to twist it to suit our motif. Afterall said and done, remember, you who claim to know the word shall stand to be judged by that same word. The old Testament is a mirrow, a school teacher and a pointer to christ. Now he is here, but most of us are still holding tidely to the old which gives us directions to the new. Follow Jesus. Pls. He will be the one you will stand before for judgement. 3 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by deprince0(m): 2:21pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony: According to luk1:48. Plz Angel never mentioned to Mary was full of grace. Angel never asked her to pray for sinners infact Mary saw hersef as unqualified to give birth to the saviour of the world. Plz who proclaimed mary holy. There is none holy but God. For all (mary inclusive)have sinned and come short of the glory of God. And if we (mary inclusive) say we hv sin, we make God a liar and the truth is not in us. Those are scriptural verses. Fatimah existed in portugal not in italy and fatimah was the daughter of mohammed. Fatimah was political. Roman catholic raised islam to contend with Jews and real christians. Appearance of Mary @ fatimah was an illusion. It never happened. Rome used it to capture Islam on their path using fatimah. Sir/ma, hell is real and heaven is real. Jesus answered and said i am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father but by me(jesus). Come unto me (Jesus) not mary, all ye that are heavy laddened and i will give u rest. He that has ear let him hear what the spirit is saying. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by kretiv: 2:23pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
All of you are jobless. Instead of thinking on how to please God, you are arguing over churches. I pity all hypocrists that call themselves "Christians" because on the judgement day no one will ask you which church you belong to, but how you lived your life. "THE FEAR OF GOD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM" |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Nobody: 2:25pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo: The prayers of the saints are presented before God like incense. So the incense symbolise the prayers of the saints. What does Catholic incense symbolize? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by slozie(f): 2:25pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
this argument is unnecessary, Read Romans 14, any way you worship GOD is acceptable to him. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by peterjero(m): 2:34pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Very nice thread, @herald you are the bomb but here's a message for you whether there are good people in other religions does not guarantee their acceptance to heaven. The only way is studying the Bible and following its tenets. I appreciate you all, if we are this well versed I wonder why we are experiencing dearth of skilled labour. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Anas09: 2:39pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
What you guys are doing right now is what satan intended when he infiltrated the church with damnable and unscriptural doctrines. Right now I guess he is sitting somewhere saying, gottcha. Your brothers and sisters are passing into eternity everyday, without christ in their lives, and all you can do is compare urselves with yourselves. 11corin 10:12. For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves are not wise. Let me ask you guys something. If I where a muslim, who is confused seeking for answers but doesn't know who to ask, but stumbles on ur arguements, how will this ur game of words help me? Pls can u guys stop already and be mature? Its high time we join forces and fight our commond enemy, his name is satan. Everyday and anytime I fall into sin or error, I tell myself, wake up fight to overcome this. You are a soldire. I don't look for someone to blame. So, I say to you all. Stop giving satan a good time. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by BestNaija(m): 2:47pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
[size=28pt]People are perishing because they lack knowledge. Narrow is the way that leads to life. Study the Bible today. #WHATDOESTHEBIBLEREALLYTEACH?[/size] |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by kaboninc(m): 2:48pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Holy Father - Pope Holy Mother - Mary Holy Son - Jesus Holy Believers - Saints Holy Handkerchief Holy Incense Holy Ghost Holy Rosary Holy lies Holy confusion Confused people spreading the virus. The day we begin to question what we're being taught, that day we'll stop perishing. I was told that human life evolved through plants and then animals. Ouch...they said it was Oduduwa. Oh later it was Chi... Only when I began to ask questions. For those who have really experienced mysticism and sincerely want to do away with it, then some teaching especially from the Catholics will have to be reviewed. |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Anas09: 2:54pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
So Mary visited children and gave them a rosary and it became a dogtrin for worship how and why. Am I the only one who knows the word apparition? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Nobody: 2:57pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
I must commend you Herald.. Your answering questions with the bible is great .. I'm deeply amazed. Keep it up nd JAH bless brother. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by CMARY(m): 3:00pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Jimmyo3:My brother there's no contradiction of commands here. The bible in Exodus 20vs1to5 God did not Literally forbid the making of statues, or the use. If you want to read that passage in context what God is forbade is exactly in verse5 of that chapter and it says thou shall not adore or worship or serve them. Or thou shall not bow down before them, depending on the version of bible you are using. All there points to just one instruction and that is: THOU SHALL NOT GIVE THE ADORATION/ WORSHIP PROPER FOR GOD ALONE TO ANY CREATED THING! SIMPLE, Whether a carved image or even a human being, you must not give that worship proper to God to any creature. The Big question is what is that form of worship proper to God alone? Is it the singing of praises? Of course No! Because you can ring the praises of the world footballer of the year. Even the Israelites sang the praises of king David when he killed Goliath. Singing of praises is a form of prayer actually but it is not meant does God alone. Is it the act of bowing your head down? NO! Because in Gen19vs1 Lot bowed down to the ground to venerate the two angels at sodom. It is a mark of honor of course but not meant for God alone. Gen42vs6 Joseph's brother bowed before Joseph with their faces on the ground. So bowing down your head before a superior or the spirit of a superi is not a form of worship meant for God alone. So follow me: The type of worship meant for God alone is LATRIA WORSHIP OR SUPREME WORSHIP, it's basic characteristic is that in this form of worship, the worshipper even for a micro second consciously acknowledges in his mind that the Deity begini worshiped is His un-created creator, use owner me his life, in fact his or her end point. That consciousness is always there. It is a spiritual reality it is not just a physical something. It is this spiritual characteristics that identifies SUPREME WORSHIP OR ADORATION. It has a special attitude to the state of mind of the worshipper. So if you understand this, then i can now tell you that in exodus 20vs1to5 God is saying do not give this LATRIA OR SUPREME WORSHIP TO ANY CREATURE. Simple! 2 Likes |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Anas09: 3:16pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Imagine us christians, we have failed woefully, we have neglected what matters most to the master. Don't worry, you all will soon stand before him and answer him if he died for ur congregation or for souls that are perishing everyday. Instead of evangelising the world, here you are , like spoild children bickering over inconsequential matters. I read an article of a former imam, now a christian, who the holy spirit had to convert by himself, why? We just can't sit down long enough with the Bible and the holy spirit, so that we can learn from him. If that imam stumbled on u guys, he will just go right back to where he came from and probably die in his sins. Let tell u guys, your hands are soaked with blood. For any soul u had a chance to win for christ but u failed, if that soul perishes, that blood will be required from you. For the word of God says," if you find your brother in sin and you turn him not away from that sin, if he dies in it, his blood shall be required of thee". |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by blowjohn(m): 3:27pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
italo: May I ask pls, what is the purpose of the incense in d catholic church today? A little diverticulum.........whan the bible says that Mary is blessed among women, does it mean dat she has special powers? |
Re: Catholicism Doctrines And Its Biblical Root(debunking An Argument) by Nobody: 3:32pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Tallesty1: Bro, you are the one trying to mislead people and I know it's not deliberate, it's just a matter of understanding... Now let me break it down in a simple way; "each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.." If you look at this statement very well you would notice that what the twenty-four elders were holding was what was stated using 'comas' and 'and'. You should also notice that it was stated that "and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints." You see? the bolded used the adjective 'which are' the prayers of saints NOT 'which is like' or 'which is as'. Hope you know the meaning of 'as and like' in grammars? Now read the other scripture you used in buttressing your point and spot the difference..." "Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice." |
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