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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by mzjaney(f): 9:32am On Jan 16, 2015
Mynd44:

See the flaw in your whole point? Punishable by law bla bla bla. Cheating is morally wrong and so is murder. I doubt you people even know the impact of cheating when a partner trusts you with everything only to find out that you betrayed that trust.

In some cases, your cheating is as bad as killing the person so please hold your theories.

You can't cheat by mistake except you were molested. How can a grown supposedly sane adult pull off his/her clothes and cheat and when the act is over remember that it was a mistake.

Where do you people come from?
I Totally agree with u jare. Mistake my Foot
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by 5minsmadness: 9:33am On Jan 16, 2015
VickyyB:

They didn't support you. What are they?
I don't get you.

I wasn't looking for any support wether male or female. I was asking a question. I wanted to know if a person cheats once, is it right to condemn the person to a lifetime of cheating a.k.a will a cheat always be a cheat? I also wanted to know if there could be circumstances that could lead someone who naturally wouldn't cheat to become a cheater and vice versa?

That was the idea of the thread. Your friend picked one word from my epistle and turned it into a fiasco.
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Kingsasian(m): 9:34am On Jan 16, 2015
Alexk2:
a cheat will always be a cheat unless there is an 'overall revolutionary change of his/her personality';
. Exactly
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by 5minsmadness: 9:36am On Jan 16, 2015
VickyyB:

Men oppress women in all rounds of life.
We are fighting for our right.
How is going to favour you? undecided
And that my dear is the kind of thinking that makes feminists men-haters. smiley
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Kingsasian(m): 9:37am On Jan 16, 2015
I strongly believe that a cheat will continually be a cheat. Because I have experienced it. My ex gfs and nw my present gf. I have always forgiven them yet they go back to the same offence despite the extreme love and cares I show them.
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Nobody: 9:40am On Jan 16, 2015
5minsmadness:

And that my dear is the kind of thinking that makes feminists men-haters. smiley
Many men still support us. Why? grin
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by stanisbaratheon: 9:42am On Jan 16, 2015
Nneka123:
I don't understand , lol! anyway I'm out of this thread it sickens me undecided

you should've obliged him. He may have something he wants to tell you in privy. #my_take_tho
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by 5minsmadness: 9:43am On Jan 16, 2015
VickyyB:

Many men still support us. Why? grin
Where did I say men don't support you?

Men and women support all sorts of things from NGOs to satanic churches.
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Nobody: 9:46am On Jan 16, 2015
5minsmadness:

Where did I say men don't support you?

Men and women support all sorts of things from NGOs to satanic churches.
My point is that men won't support us if we are hating them.

Only anti-feminists call us men haters and they're all bunch of misogynists. cheesy
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by 5minsmadness: 9:49am On Jan 16, 2015
VickyyB:

My point is that men won't support us if we are hating them.

Only anti-feminists call us men haters and they're all bunch of misogynists. cheesy
Ok
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Nobody: 9:49am On Jan 16, 2015
Mynd44:
Abeg how do you cheat by mistake?

Blame it on the alcohol..
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by adorable29(f): 9:56am On Jan 16, 2015
Mynd44:
A woman spoke to me once about her husband. He was the loving guy and then he cheated on her. She was pissed and angry and tried to leave the husband as she had told herself she could never forgive a cheat her family members spoke to her, she said no. Then her pastor called her and the husband and the pastor said he has spoken to the husband and he has agreed to change.

The woman is living somewhere in Ibadan right now with HIV contracted from her husband who cheated and she forgave because it is just once.

Cheats are evil and have no regard for you, your love, your sanity or life. They only care about the pleasure they will get in that moment and when they get that selfishness off their body, they get sober and beg.

If he/she cheats, before you forgive and stay because of love or religion think about your life and how much that person values it.
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by ademi87(m): 10:03am On Jan 16, 2015
Nobody holy pass
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by LordReed(m): 10:04am On Jan 16, 2015
Nonso23:

The question is:
Can cheating be considered as a mistake ?
Cheating contextual usage = Verb
Mistake: contextual usage = Noun.
Basic rule for English grammar you cannot substitute the meaning of a word as a verb for its meaning as a noun.

I.e Barge(noun), Barge(verb).

barge - /bärj/
(noun)
1. a flat-bottomed boat
for carrying freight,
typically on canals and
rivers, either under its
own power or towed by
another.
(Verb)
1. move forcefully or
roughly.
2. convey (freight) by
barge.

His definition is the correct version.
Noun for noun,
verb for verb, etc.

His question is still unanswered.

5minsmadness:

Ok sir. I daresay you are the more logical of the two. Also myndd seems to have evapourated into thin air grin

The word mistake has two functions. NOUN and VERB.

In the context of cheating, Mistake takes on its NOUN function. It IS a wrongful act.


In the context of stealing meat from the pot(as someone somewhere said grin), It is used as a VERB in qualifying the act.

So there you have it. Ipso facto, Cheating is a wrongful act. A mistake. Let all participants and officials of this honourabe court take note!

Court ajourned! grin

Okay since it is now nitpicking noun vs verb let's look a little more closely at the noun definition of mistake:

mistake
noun
: something that is not correct : a wrong
action, statement, or judgment
Full Definition
: a wrong judgment : misunderstanding
: a wrong action or statement proceeding
from faulty judgment, inadequate
knowledge, or inattention

A mistake we see proceeds from faulty judgment, misunderstanding, inadequate knowledge or inattention. Please which of these applies to the cheat?
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by 9jatatafo(m): 10:12am On Jan 16, 2015
Cheats do it for several reasons - Some their spouse is not satisfying them, some for the sake of pleasure, some for the money and some are born that way. Just like the say " Old fishermen don't die they only smell that way"
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by nature20: 10:16am On Jan 16, 2015
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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Fkforyou(m): 10:22am On Jan 16, 2015
SirShymex:


Err, I'll speak from a male perspective, since you're also a male.

Personally, I wouldn't attribute any form of cheating to being "weak willed and being easily swayed by emotions." It's deeper than that. Yes, the allure is always there. However, what you failed to acknowledge is the fact that the society sees it as a norm, in the male context. So, you can't use weakness as a premise, when it's viewed as the norm/strength albeit ridiculous morally.

You can even correlate cheating (in the male context cos I'm speaking from the perspective I understand and can relate to) with drinking alcohol - since, from a moral stand-point, both can be adjudged to be wrong. But both are normal things people do. With alcohol: you have alcoholics/drunkards, social drinkers, folks who drink cos they need to get away from something (victim of circumstance), and those who will just try it a few times for whatever reason. Once you take the different levels of drinking alcohol I alluded to, and relate it to cheating - using serial cheaters, social cheaters (passive), victim of circumstance, and those who will try it - you'll see the convergence.

So, saying a cheat can't change is akin to saying anyone who has ever tasted alcohol can never change. Even serial cheaters with habitual urge to cheat, like alcoholics, can be salvaged to an extent. It just depends on if they're either early or late bloomers.
I get your point, I think we are saying the same thing, hence why I said it depends on the individual.
As per cheating being a mistake, 99 times it isn't. But there are some exceptional cases especially if there was some form of hypnosis and the predator is very good at seduction, but it doesn't change the fact that you placed your self in the position to be seduced. Seduction is a gradual process, its not lika a switch that you on and off at will.
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Nobody: 10:36am On Jan 16, 2015
To me it really does not matter what theories you all propound here.

Personally if you cheat on me and I find out, 1000 Pastors or 10,000,000 children

or fathers or mothers or kings or village heads cannot stop me from sending you away forever.

And forever is even too short. As a matter of fact ''cursed be the ground for thy sake......''.

Not even the law of the land can make me take you back. I would gladly go to jail.
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by killjoy(m): 10:42am On Jan 16, 2015
5minsmadness:
"A cheat will always be a cheat"

I hear this saying making rounds on social media but I think it is false. Nobody is born a cheat. A person becomes a cheat when he/she is placed under certain circumstances.



A faithful husband that has been denied sex for long periods of time is more likely to cheat than if he has sex regularly. A girlfriend who is denied love and attention constantly by her lover is more likely to cheat with him over someone else. This would have been different if her boyfriend was more loving and attentive. A poor guy that shows his love, support and attention to his girl is more likely to have a loyal babe than a rich guy who hardly shows his girlfriend any attention.


Saying a cheat will always be a cheat leaves the relationship open to do whatever you like, thinking that your partner will always be faithful no matter what. It also prevents you from forgiving your partner even if he/ she makes a mistake because you think once they have started cheating they will continue cheating all their lives no matter what. That assumption is baseless.

Of course there are exceptions to the rule but should we use the stubborn few to punish the vast majority?


first of all I wonder y we r even debating dis... do u knw d pain one must go thru to forgive a cheat? let alone live wit dem in hopes dat dey wud change. even d bible says, if ur spouse cheats on u, u must forgive. Bt ur free to leave d person. after my ex cheated on me, I forgave her. d straw dat broke d camels back was wen I found out she was still Lyin to me about her werabouts. look here nigga, a cheat is a cheat. u Dnt want to risk ur sanity find on out weda she wud change.



my humble opinion

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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by ochon: 10:59am On Jan 16, 2015
crackhaus:

Lmao...
You actually had to go bring my comment in response? grin

Lol, a lot of these folks on here can't read...
Or did you in any part of your OP state that the act of cheating is a mistake?

Na oga Mynd44 use him own hand type mistake enter this thread oo, and trust every subsequent poster to roll with it... mob mentality! gringrin

God bless you!! As in, I'm yet to read where the OP mentioned in his first post that cheating is by mistake. Some people can't read, they just jump on a thread and follow the bandwagon. Very annoying. This is how the OP has been condemned for debating an issue. SMH.

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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by RiffRaff: 11:00am On Jan 16, 2015
It was only a matter of time until there is @killjoy
So good to see u here, i don day await ur arrival.

back to d topic.
It is so annoying that people will try hard to masqurade cheating as a mistake. A premeditated action is not an accident. U planned it & did it.
Take Responsibility for ur actions. D best way to treat a cheat is to leave them.
Wether they change or not shouldnt be ur concern. Just dont stick around to find out.

That song Before he cheat By Carrie Underwood put it all into perspective.

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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by bullabong(m): 11:37am On Jan 16, 2015
Mynd44:
Abeg how do you cheat by mistake?
You really need to understand that no matter what happens,people just cheat and will continue the habit no matter the situation.Let's just find a harmless way to cheat.Just as d western world has open marriage.
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Nobody: 11:38am On Jan 16, 2015
For once I see Mynd44 talking some sense. cheesy
You just earned my followership. Any more kiddies stuff and I unfollow you right back. grin

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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by LordReed(m): 12:01pm On Jan 16, 2015
ochon:


God bless you!! As in, I'm yet to read where the OP mentioned in his first post that cheating is by mistake. Some people can't read, they just jump on a thread and follow the bandwagon. Very annoying. This is how the OP has been condemned for debating an issue. SMH.

Did you read this part:

5minsmadness:
It also prevents you from forgiving your partner even if he/ she makes a mistake

What does he mean if not that cheating can be a mistake?
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by ochon: 12:08pm On Jan 16, 2015
LordReed:


Did you read this part:



What does he mean if not that cheating can be a mistake?

Yeah, I read it. It said "makes a mistake" meaning it's in future tense, not a "past" mistake. And it also doesn't specify if the mistake is "cheating," meaning it could be any mistake. But if he had wrote "MADE a mistake" specifying that the mistake was that of cheating and him or her getting caught, It'd have been more specific. As long as I'm concerned, one can't 'mistakenly' sleep with another one though.

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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by nairaman66(m): 12:19pm On Jan 16, 2015
Mynd44:

See the flaw in your whole point? Punishable by law bla bla bla. Cheating is morally wrong and so is murder. I doubt you people even know the impact of cheating when a partner trusts you with everything only to find out that you betrayed that trust.

In some cases, your cheating is as bad as killing the person so please hold your theories.

You can't cheat by mistake except you were molested. How can a grown supposedly sane adult pull off his/her clothes and cheat and when the act is over remember that it was a mistake.

Where do you people come from?

I swear, your argument hold so much water!
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by crackhaus: 12:20pm On Jan 16, 2015
ochon:


God bless you!! As in, I'm yet to read where the OP mentioned in his first post that cheating is by mistake. Some people can't read, they just jump on a thread and follow the bandwagon. Very annoying. This is how the OP has been condemned for debating an issue. SMH.
Linear thinking man, it's a common trait in people...can't blame them - it takes a certain kind of mind to read words and figure out the writer's thought process in reflex.

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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by gimmesome(m): 12:26pm On Jan 16, 2015
freecocoa:
Oh! Okay.

I do agree that cheating isn't a mistake.
.......glad u finally agreed
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by Amhappy(f): 12:30pm On Jan 16, 2015
A neighbour of mine used to pick a new girl every night even though he has a girlfriend. One day,he met this babe who is not even as cute,young or fresh as those girls he normally pick. He changed. Before we know it,he proposed to her and then married her. Till today he doesnt look at any other woman. Once we were having a discussion and it came up. He smiled and told us that he now plays champion league so street football have no place in his life anymore. So that adage doesnt apply all the time. Change is constant.

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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by crackhaus: 12:31pm On Jan 16, 2015
ochon:

As long as I'm concerned, one can't 'mistakenly' sleep with another one though.
Lmao...

Unfortunately this is what most are inferring, from where I know not...to the point that an argument spanning pages was built around it, Lol...
Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by LordReed(m): 12:31pm On Jan 16, 2015
ochon:


Yeah, I read it. It said "makes a mistake" meaning it's in future tense, not a "past" mistake. And it also doesn't specify if the mistake is "cheating," meaning it could be any mistake. But if he had wrote "MADE a mistake" specifying that the mistake was that of cheating and him or her getting caught, It'd have been more specific. As long as I'm concerned, one can't 'mistakenly' sleep with another one though.

5minsmadness makes no reference to other misdeeds in his op so he definitely is referring to cheating (which is what his post is all about). Whether future tense or past tense is irrelevant to it, cheating is not a mistake.

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Re: Will A Cheat Always Be A Cheat? by coolfredo(m): 12:35pm On Jan 16, 2015
5minsmadness:

Anybody can make a mistake, not all people are saints.
A person can cheat willingly on his/her partner and realise later on it was a mistake i.e be sorry for what he/she has done.
u dnt stil ans d qwestion, hw do one cheat by mistake? mistake as in hw?

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