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Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 12:49pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
We have our own laws here too. Muhammadu Buhari as President will not manufacture any law, he will work with existing laws. Like I said earlier, false report against government is beyond defamation. Why not promote ethical journalism instead just like it is obtained in most developed countries?
Like most Buhari supporters you are trying to play smart because you have been found out. You need to differentiate the government from government officials. Buhari didn't talk about the govt (which would have been understandable) but public officials.

The point is Buhari doesn't want to be criticized, he doesn't want a very critical press 'wey go put fire for him nyash'
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 12:51pm On Feb 01, 2015
angry
taharqa:
Lol cheesy
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Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by taharqa: 12:51pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
the General's never meant "ban" literarily, he actyally mean the law will take it cause. It is not about stiffling, its about bringing offenders of the law to book. If they publish malicious article, they should be able to defend their publication or face the law. This to me is how societies are run. We have existing laws. Even the FOI is restrictive, some information can't be divulged to the Press or any citizen.
Lol cheesy

Again
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 12:52pm On Feb 01, 2015
APContherun:
Like most Buhari supporters you are trying to play smart because you have been found out. You need to differentiate the government from government officials. Buhari didn't talk about the govt (which would have been understandable) but public officials.

The point is Buhari doesn't want to be criticized, he doesn't want a very critical press 'wey go put fire for him nyash'
Who constitute a government?
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 12:54pm On Feb 01, 2015
mikolo80:
See ignorance. Even china cant ban internet is it incompetent civil servants that will
Brother everything is possible. Go to middle east and Asian countries and see what they ban and we Nigerians take it for granted. Why should a presidential candidate be justifying banning Press at this age. Could u believe that a country cld ban footballers from taking selfies with their female fans? www.ibtimes.co.uk/asian-cup-iranian-footballers-banned-taking-selfies-female-fans-1484248
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by gratiaeo(m): 12:58pm On Feb 01, 2015
calebo101:
I hope Nigerians know the "change" they want. Everything about this man seems wrong. From the visible hypocrisy on his face to the outright lies being sold to the public by his apologists, Nigeria would be on a long ride if he smells power.

What annoys me most are comments made by the ignorant ones down to the outright fools such as "we should try him first, then if he does not perform after 4 years we vote him out"... Like reallyhuh Would you still have the avenue or opportunity to vote in 4 years time? Would it count?

Nothing beats freedom. If the people of Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Syria, et al, could have predicted the future, they would not have shouted change! Them for manage Ghadaffi and dem Mubarak... See where the change put them now.

Same mistake is happening in Nigeria and typically we don't learn from the past. Bringing in a man that contributed to the decadent country today, guided by his co-perpetrators (Obasanjo, Atiku, Babangida) using the mantra 'change' is a mockery of our intelligence.
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 12:59pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
Amya is only emotional and probably partisan.
You on the contrary are the emotional and partisan one here. What the comment you quoted which you feel lends support to your argument has said is PROSECUTE and not BAN as Buhari wants. Come to think of it can you point me to a link on the al-jazeera's Nigeria ban because I can't remember when it happened. I only remember the Presidency accusing them of trying to destabilize the country, can't remember if a ban followed. Please do help.
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by gratiaeo(m): 1:02pm On Feb 01, 2015
Obinoscopy:
I sincerely hope freedom of the press and the social media will not be removed if Buhari wins.
Buhari will never win. Stop imagining evil
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by brownlord: 1:02pm On Feb 01, 2015
taharqa:
I have meticulously read all the comments here to see those of barcanista, Omenka, obiagelli, egift, Berem, etc, but to no avail.

Maybe if the thread can be pushed to the Fp, they will comment.

PS: What makes this interview really chilling is that look on the face of Buhari- such disgust and disdain expressed for the freedom of the press- for anything he hasn't approved personally. And to think that this interview was not done in 1983, but RECENTLY !!!
I can't believe this
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 1:07pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
Who constitute a government?
Sahara Reporters once accused the petroluem minister Diezani Madueke of owning a $100m mansion in Austria, that of course was discovered to be false. Australian Steve Davis accused General Ihejirika falsely of funding book haram. These are cases of attack on a public official and not against the govt.
Al-jazeera once accused the Nigerian government of committing genocide in the North East, that's an attack on the govt which undermines her national interest. Leaking information to an enemy country is also an attack on national interest.

A public official is quite different from the govt he serves.
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by bgates: 1:08pm On Feb 01, 2015
imagine

this is not yet on front page


moderators n admin
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 1:14pm On Feb 01, 2015
APContherun:
Sahara Reporters once accused the petroluem minister Diezani Madueke of owning a $100m mansion in Austria, that of course was discovered to be false. Australian Steve Davis accused General Ihejirika falsely of funding book haram. These are cases of attack on a public official and not against the govt.
Al-jazeera once accused the Nigerian government of committing genocide in the North East, that's an attack on the govt which undermines her national interest. Leaking information to an enemy country is also an attack on national interest.

A public official is quite different from the govt he serves.
What turns out to be false? Did allison deny the Property? Did another owner claimed the Austrian property? That our corrupt government refused to probe it doesn't makes it false.
For Ihejirika, he was accused when he left office, why didn't he take up the challenge to tell the FG to probe the allegation? Why did the DSS exonerated him even without probe? Why didn't the government invite Davies to come shed more light? Dude don't even go there. A government cover-up isn't equivalent to innocence.
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by luvmijeje(f): 1:16pm On Feb 01, 2015
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Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by agabaI23(m): 1:18pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
I don't know why people are misrepresenting and twisting the words of Gen Muhammadu Buhari. As a citizen I am 100% in support of Press freedom, so is the General. However, freedom of the Press shouldn't be absolute otherwise they will be used to cause anarchy. If the press have anything against any public officer and they are really sure about it, they should publish it and allow for Government prosecution. They have to be sure and not gossip or be used to persecute officers on the pages of newspapers. However, false reportage using "our source" that will neither give a lead nor help a cause, and also fabricating news and ascribing to public officers should not only be discouraged but should be criminalised. The Whistle Blower act should be passed/strenghtened to protect those with valuable information. The Press needs to carry their jobs with ethics and checks like other professions. All arms of government have forms of checks and balance. We need to protect government officers too from false and malicious embarrassment.
Hahahahaaha, if I were you, I would have avoided commenting on this thread.
Is Sahara Reporters not your good source of information? grin grin grin

Honestly, you don't have to comment on any thread that is strangling Buhari wink
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by londoner: 1:20pm On Feb 01, 2015
Typical of Buhari, and his supporters will never come out to say what he said is wrong.
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 1:21pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
What turns out to be false? Did allison deny the Property? Did another owner claimed the Austrian property? That our corrupt government refused to probe it doesn't makes it false.
For Ihejirika, he was accused when he left office, why didn't he take up the challenge to tell the FG to probe the allegation? Why did the DSS exonerated him even without probe? Why didn't the government invite Davies to come shed more light? Dude don't even go there. A government cover-up isn't equivalent to innocence.
Ihejirika is already in court that I'm sure you are aware. Anyway let's not get into the specifics of the cases, I just used them as example to explain to you how different an official is from the government he serves.
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 1:33pm On Feb 01, 2015
agabaI23:
Hahahahaaha, if I were you, I would have avoided commenting on this thread.
Is Sahara Reporters not your good source of information? grin grin grin

Honestly, you don't have to comment on any thread that is strangling Buhari wink
Bro, I will always stand for what is right despite intimidation
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by lagdmark(m): 1:34pm On Feb 01, 2015
When Tinubu and APC supporters will realize their Biggest mistake supporting that man Buhari it will too late, anyway, I pray buhari will fail again come 14,feb.as his hobby
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by luvmijeje(f): 1:38pm On Feb 01, 2015
In defense of Buhari, the crack down on the press happened during the military era. so all what he said was in defense of his past action. But I will love to know his presence policy, thought or action towards press freedom. I also want to know how he's going to adapt his thinking towards the democratic process .
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by rozayx5(m): 1:42pm On Feb 01, 2015
M17:
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Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by rozayx5(m): 1:57pm On Feb 01, 2015
Promhize:
Mods, seun and Co. are quick to move any thread that defends Buhari to FP, even those clearly written by Buhari goons on NL, but this won't make it obviously.
am watching them
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by londoner: 2:15pm On Feb 01, 2015
luvmijeje:
In defense of Buhari, the crack down on the press happened during the military era. so all what he said was in defense of his past action. But I will love to know his presence policy, thought or action towards press freedom. I also want to know how he's going to adapt his thinking towards the democratic process .
If that was what he meant, would he not have said," it was the miitary era, I would not do the same today?"

He simply justified it and did not distance himslf from it today, and this was the prime opportunity to do so.

This man's ego and arrogance is a MAJOR worry.

He stops a train contract for Lagos , in the past.....he can not admit that in hindsight it may have been the wrong decision.

He is caught in a small issue over his certificates, he replies that he does not need to provide it to anyone.

He justifies his killing of young men in the past, without trial and one for a crime that did not carry a death sentence at the time......again his reply is an arrogant justification.

This man is a dictator and a tyrant.........
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Bawss1(m): 2:27pm On Feb 01, 2015
CFCfan:
You must be a lawyer or law student. You've raised some salient points, but there are situations where press freedom is limited. For instance, it's a crime to publish leaked, classified info in the US. The US government can prosecute anyone found to have leaked classified national security info.
Good. You say the US govt can prosecute, as in try in a court of law, not ban. This only relates to classified material not views that the govt or govt officials consider embarrassing to themselves. That's a huge difference.
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by londoner: 2:36pm On Feb 01, 2015
Bawss1:
Good. You say the US govt can prosecute, as in try in a court of law, not ban. This only relates to classified material not views that the govt or govt officials consider embarrassing to themselves. That's a huge difference.
Exactly....in fact the whole world is protesting against the suppression of freedom of speech and the gagging and hounding of the press by governments.

We can't expect Buhari to understand that......he clearly does not respect democracy.

These people should get the last of their insults on the president out on GEJ, because if Buhari wins, it will be costly to them.

They should wave bye-bye to freedom of speech and criticism of their leaders and their president.

What do they suppose Buhari's reaction will be to them, if they decide to call him clueless, or insult his wife openly?
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by luvmijeje(f): 2:40pm On Feb 01, 2015
londoner:
If that was what he meant, would he not have said," it was the miitary era, I would not do the same today?"

He simply justified it and did not distance himslf from it today, and this was the prime opportunity to do so.

This man's ego and arrogance is a MAJOR worry.

He stops a train contract for Lagos , in the past.....he can not admit that in hindsight it may have been the wrong decision.

He is caught in a small issue over his certificates, he replies that he does not need to provide it to anyone.

He justifies his killing of young men in the past, without trial and one for a crime that did not carry a death sentence at the time......again his reply is an arrogant justification.

This man is a dictator and a tyrant.........
I will agree to a smaller extent that he's arrogant but I totally disagree that he's a dictator and a tyrant.

This is a man no one has accused of being corrupt..... I won't call that dictatorial, I will called it discipline. This is a man that's loved by millions of his people.... I won't call that tyranny, I will call him a self assured man . This is a man that has been in a position to enriched himself but he never did....... I won't call that arrogant, I will say he's a man of conviction.
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by londoner: 2:53pm On Feb 01, 2015
luvmijeje:
I will agree to a smaller extent that he's arrogant but I totally disagree that he's a dictator and a tyrant.

This is a man no one has accused of being corrupt..... I won't call that dictatorial, I will called it discipline. This is a man that's loved by millions of his people.... I won't call that tyranny, I will call him a self assured man . This is a man that has been in a position to enriched him but he never did....... I won't call that arrogant, I will say he's a man of conviction.
For me, tyrant and dictator aptly descirbes Buhari to an extent.....whether he is loved or not. Hitler was also loved by many, FW Declerk was loved by many.

Definitions of tyrant and dictator describe Buhari to me, even if he may have had a few positives in the eyes of some.

ty·rant
(tī′rənt)
n.
1. An extremely oppressive, unjust, or cruel ruler.
2. An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions, especially one who seized power illegally.
3. An oppressive, harsh, arbitrary person: My boss is a tyrant.

tyrant
(ˈtaɪrənt)
n
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a person who governs oppressively, unjustly, and arbitrarily; despot
2. any person who exercises authority in a tyrannical manner
3. anything that exercises tyrannical influence
4. (Historical Terms) (esp in ancient Greece) a ruler whose authority lacked the sanction of law or custom; usurper



dictator
(dɪkˈteɪtə)
n
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy)
a. a ruler who is not effectively restricted by a constitution, laws, recognized opposition, etc
b. an absolute, esp tyrannical, ruler
2. (Historical Terms) (in ancient Rome) a person appointed during a crisis to exercise supreme authority
3. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) (in ancient Rome) a person appointed during a crisis to exercise supreme authority
4. a person who makes pronouncements, as on conduct, fashion, etc, which are regarded as authoritative
5. a person who behaves in an authoritarian or tyrannical manner
dictatress dictatrix fem n


2. dictator - a ruler who is unconstrained by law






If the shoes fits..............................
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by CHRISTALLITE: 3:09pm On Feb 01, 2015
mikolo80:
Are you happy the way the country is being run. 70% poverty-stricken and yet you woods why the masses support a non looter over a looter who bought 86 cars for his daughters weddin. With their money. Hope he does up in jail
And compare to his regime was then better off?
We are actually catching up!Sincerely you need to be sincere!Are you part of the masses?What need you have that you don't?
How much was affirm the incumbent president loot?
Back to the topic;Most assertions from most of you guys are not affirmative!But you kinda expect the President to leave the myriad of works and files on his desk to help the country move forward!?;To ban or sue media houses and individuals on the ground of prevarication on his integrity?(ON THE STAND OF SOVEREIGN RESPECT TO THE GOVERNMENT!?)
Hasn't that been the order of his time(GMB)?
BTW;
Your claim has elements of truth you say;
It do reflect as a check on the government not only you but various opinions here!
*PRESS FREEDOM SHOULD BE ALLOWED!BON can always do the checking!*
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by agabaI23(m): 3:18pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
Bro, I will always stand for what is right despite intimidation
How can an intimidator be intimidated?
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 3:22pm On Feb 01, 2015
barcanista:
My Dear, we have freedom of speech but it's not absolute. Your freedom of speech doesn't permit you to slander, incite, nor say things that are capable of leading to breakddown of law and order. Journalism as a profession is a noble one, it should be encouraged at all times and not be intimidated. However, Professionals in the field have the responsibility of ethical practice and abstainance from malicious, slanderous/libelous reportage. Just this morning, I read a thread from one journalist that alleged that General Minimah will install Interim Government should Buhari win. Though I'm not a fan of Jonathan, I rejected the report, and personally, I will want the journalist to be arrested and asked to explain to the DSS and the Police. We can't continue to allow journalistic impunity and still expect to develop as a nation. Whoever is sure of the truthfulness of his news should publish it and be ready to assist the government when called, otherwise, he should keep shut or face the law. My Dear, it's not about Buhari, it's about sanity.
Like a pressman asking him to show his certificate?
You are indeed a clown
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody: 3:25pm On Feb 01, 2015
agabaI23:
How can an intimidator be intimidated?
Who's the intimidator? angry
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by Nobody:
agabaI23:
Hahahahaaha, if I were you, I would have avoided commenting on this thread.
Is Sahara Reporters not your good source of information? grin grin grin

Honestly, you don't have to comment on any thread that is strangling Buhari wink
So that he doesn't earn his salary today?
Na you go pay am?
Re: You Can Ban The Press If They Will Embarrass A Public Officer - Buhari by rozayx5(m): 3:28pm On Feb 01, 2015
bgates:
imagine

this is not yet on front page


moderators n admin
but his stewpid ptf failure story made frontpage. if this sensitive thread does not hit frontpage i will know the mods have been compromised.
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