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agaugust:
[size=16pt]If this forum becomes stale and a thread of distorted information with envy over-ruling facts and common sense, I am out until sanity returns, you Southies want to post rubbish and lies.....go on, you may just soon be the only ones left here as it becomes a pointless waste of time and intellect. [/size]

FighterPilot:
Just stop making a mockery of yourself. Mbeki is no longer the president of SA and I have even forgotten about him that he was ever the president of SA. To correct you Nigeria only leads Africa in population and economy and surely not in military, billionaires and religion as you speculated. Most of millionaires and billionaires in your country were downgraded as a result of devaluing your currency against a dollar, your number now lacks behind that of SA a and Egypt. You have only two different religions in your country i.e Muslims and Christians and apart from that you find none, so, how does that make you religious hub of the continent other than a war on religion that you have pelted on your people. Militarily, I won't even touch it because you don't even make top 5 list. Sorry, brother. Nigeria does not lead Africa.

saengine:
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-37865/

WORLD CLASS SOUTH AFRICAN ENGINEERING

A-Darter missile heading for production

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/AIR/Air_new/gripen_adarter.jpg

Denel's A-Darter air-to-air missile passed critical in-flight guided tests in recent weeks and production of this fifth-generation missile system is expected to start before the end of 2015.

Components for the missile are manufactured in both South Africa and Brazil and Denel Dynamics is the Original Equipment Manufacturer. Brazil has invested 300 million Reals (R1.3 billion) in the project, half of which has gone to Brazilian companies such as Mectron, Avibras and Optoelectronics, which have been working with Denel Dynamics on the project since 2006. One of Brazil's main reasons for becoming involved in the project is technology transfer and Brazilian engineers have been working closely with those in South Africa.

The A-Darter is aimed to be fitted to both Gripen and Hawk aircraft of the South African Air Force. There is also talk of integrating the infrared guided weapon onto Brazil's AMX aircraft. Brazil will initially buy a hundred missiles for its Gripens, as part of an initial production run of around 250 missiles


The missile's agility will enable it to handle close combat situations with ease and it also features lock-on after launch and memory tracking capabilities. Among its features are advanced digital processing capabilities to ensure improved performance in terms of image detection, false target rejection, electronic counter-counter-measures, guidance and control.

The Brazilian Air Force said the A-Darter is ten times more manoeuvrable than a fighter aircraft, able to perform manoeuvres that generate up to 100 g, whereas most modern fighter jets can only withstand around 9 g. Measuring 2.98 meters in length and weighing 90 kg, the new missile is notable because of the absence of the small forward wings used for control - instead the A-Darter is able to direct the thrust of its rocket engine. Maximum range is 12 kilometres, according to the Brazilian Air Force.


"Heat-seeking, the A-Darter has a guidance system so sensitive that just after firing it can make a sharp turn and hit targets that are chasing the launcher plane. Today, fourth generation missiles can hit targets that are, at best, next to the launcher plane. The guidance sensor can also 'see' more of the infrared frequency band, and thereby avoid being fooled by flares - incandescent bait thrown to confuse missiles," Tavares said.


After the successful A-Darter project, Brazil and South Africa plan to further cooperate in missile development, notably on the 100 km range Marlin radar-guided air-to-air weapon, which will be developed into an all-weather surface-to-air missile (SAM) that can be used by the South African and Brazilian Navies



Article was edited for shorter reading. And to that fool on this forum who says the Badger IFV is obsolete because the basic concept/idea was first thought of in 1997.....A Darter was first conceptualized in 1995. And is now one of the best short range air-air missiles you'll find anywhere in the solar system. Like i told you fool, we design and optimize for FUTURE requirements

Patchesagain:
Economy - not most advanced, not biggest PP

Population - and so? Population is a curse, not a blessing

Military - 1780 pages say otherwise

Billionaires - Egypt leads Africa with 7, followed by RSA with 4 and Nigeria with only 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_US_dollar_billionaires

IT- [citation needed]

Telecom's - yeah totally, thats why South African firms dominate your market, also, consult the attached map for mobile coverage (pic 1)
- South Africa has Africa's 6th fastest internet connections (despite our Geographic disadvantage) and Nigeria 8th
http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2012/04/africas-top-ten-countries-with-fastest-internet-speeds/

Investment HUB - And yet Johannesburg South Africa remains the investment and financial capital of Africa and ranks amongst cities like Zurich, Hong-Kong and Shanghai
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/204556

Democracy - South Africa is the 71st most democractic country in the world, Nigeria is only the 104th
http://democracyranking.org/?page_id=14

Religion - We have ZERO religious wars, you are in the middle of one.

"dynamic and entrepreneural citizenry" - and yet our companies dominate your markets

Clown

Patchesagain:
Economy - not most advanced, not biggest PP

Population - and so? Population is a curse, not a blessing

Military - 1780 pages say otherwise

Billionaires - Egypt leads Africa with 7, followed by RSA with 4 and Nigeria with only 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_US_dollar_billionaires

IT- [citation needed]

Telecom's - yeah totally, thats why South African firms dominate your market, also, consult the attached map for mobile coverage (pic 1)
- South Africa has Africa's 6th fastest internet connections (despite our Geographic disadvantage) and Nigeria 8th
http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2012/04/africas-top-ten-countries-with-fastest-internet-speeds/

Investment HUB - And yet Johannesburg South Africa remains the investment and financial capital of Africa and ranks amongst cities like Zurich, Hong-Kong and Shanghai
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/204556

Democracy - South Africa is the 71st most democractic country in the world, Nigeria is only the 104th
http://democracyranking.org/?page_id=14

Religion - We have ZERO religious wars, you are in the middle of one.

"dynamic and entrepreneural citizenry" - and yet our companies dominate your markets

Clown

lezz:
I thought there was only one southie school drop out. I forgot you are the chief dumbass here. I see, I sent you scurrying to google again.
You went and quoted a source that had the top 10 richest in Africa. You are as foolish as an ostrich.

Now tailor your lazy fingers to BBC, and a slave like you would know what's happening as of now.

Dongote is in 14 African countries already while glo, zenith, eco and a host of other firms and business scatter accross Africa. Anglo dutch companies hurried to Nigeria paying every and anything since 1994 to escape black savages and bushmen from becoming forced shareholders and running the company down.

You and your lots are still the white man's burden right there in your father land, you dripping , rustic savage douche-bag.

Buthurt, Soweto mouse.

mzilakazi:
This is a blow that killed him. Lezz is dead!!!

lezz:
I never knew I was a thorn in your flesh.

Your shallow friend copied wiki for top 10 richest Africans. That's what southafrica is all about,: twisting facts. BBC and wiki which is more credible? lol. Poor poor, south Africa, how would they wish other African countries well when they were spoon fed and bathed and failed still.

Now we have Africa's largest economy( you can sing me that pp or hdi lamentations).

You say population is a curse? You're a demon of deceit and dishonesty. Your likes are spat upon and taken to a public square and horse whipped.

Brazil with over 170 million= south America's largest economy.

Germany 80 million Europe's biggest economy.

Nigeria 170 million Africa's power house and largest economy.

China= nearly 2 billion Asia's and soon to be world's biggest economy.

India, 1.4 billion 9th economy in the world.

In any war situation Nigeria shall out number you 4
to1.

That is why America and the west is so China- scary.
That is why your political class want a military defence pact with Nigeria.

That is why France never wanted northern Ireland to secede even though she envies the UK.

You all southies on this forum are sales clerks posing as military and political personnel.

What a waste of effort with these simpletons and imposters. Lol.

agaugust:
The world sees only four losers here but Nigeria is not on the losers list.

1. South Africa that cannot defeat ordinary Rhino Poachers dribbling SAAF and SANDF around in Mandela's homeland of Kruger Park until Botswana came to their rescue and Jacob Zuma is hiding 500 Southie Rhinos inside Botswana after accepting national defeat by Rhino Poachers.

South Africa that paid American special forces to invade South Africa in the eyes of the whole world and hunt down illiterate Rhino Poachers who for many years till today reign supreme as modern day Shaka Zulu in the black homeland.

Same South Africa that abandoned C.A.R. Bangui at jet speed with Seleka pursuing SANDF Elite paratroopers as they ran faster than Springboks.....while rag tag Chadian army stood firm and kept hope alive for helpless civilians in that war torn nation .

2. Chad, a country that sent 2,000 soldiers to fight Boko Haram in a small deserted Nigerian border town of Gamboru. Chadian rag tag army of nincompoops entered Gamboru in one direction failing to split in military tactical mode and block escape routes of Boko Haram. Fought Bokos, for few hours, 16 Chadian soldiers dead 21 wounded.....claimed they killed all the 200 Bokos, chanted victor songs like Babarians, deceiving the world news media while the same 'dead' Bokos actually manuevered and outsmarted the big 2,000 force Chadian army, drove trucks across border into Cameroon, left Chadiand behind in a fake victory celebration, entered Foktokal, beat up Cameroonian elite special forces like herdsmen beat up cows, went ahead and dagger sliced open the throats of 100 innocent Cameroonian women and children, rampaged and bloody wounded another 500 civilian Cameroonians, while Chad's incompetent army was celebrating and granting interviews to world press....history cannot be erased....history is laughing at Chad like a comedian .

3. Cameroon's sloppy wobbly BIR Elite special forces that once claimed to be better than Nigeria...Fools of Fotokol caught sleeping on duty, despatched to early grave by rampaging Boko Harams that escaped under the dull eyes of dull brained Chadian army. BIR watched in horror as Bokos used their Cameroonian citizens to set new record of casualties in 2015...100 dead, 500 bleeding wounded in Cameroon....BIR also burying it's elite troops.....Cameroonian military history goes from bad to worse.

4. @Devluit, praising Chadian army as liberators of Nigeria while the Cameroonians that invited Chad to save them got the opposite of liberation.....eradication on homesoil.

You Devluit as you beat drums and blow trumpet for Chad, 100 Cameroonian ghosts of the dead are looking for your house address, while 500 wounded Cameroonians have vowed to Stone Devluit when their wounds heal and they happen to see you within stoning range.

4 losers in world history, only 4.....the other side is 1 Nigeria winning her war, driving Boko Haram into running Olympics like SANDF displayed speed in the face of Seleka

mzilakazi:
Correction, Nigeria is not a power house but a largest economy. That's very different. Nigeria does not have a single AU offices


Economists all agree that the biggest population is a disadvantage, thus a curse.

agaugust:
Foool

You move half of Nigerian army into only 3 states and expose the remaining 34 states and Abuja to infiltration by insurgents. Garrison is a standard worldwide recognized militray strategy, you cover all your land.

Boko Haram has no uniform, they wear civilian clothes 99%. You can outnumber them but you cannot identify most of them the way they can identify Nigerian army uniforms, you don't know what COIN war means. LOL.

Anyway its 30,000 men on both sides so we don't outnumber them in NE war zone.

Chad and Cameroon have to enter Nigeria for their own good or else they will be in danger once Bokos cross border, see what Bokos did to Cameroonian civilians today, ran from Nigerian town Gamborou, entered Cameroonian town Fotokol and began slicing the throats of innocent women and children with knives.

If Chad and Cameroon refuses to fight inside Nigeria, they will have Bokos spreading out like water floods inside their countries and blood will flow there! The Chadians you are praising are not helping Nigeria, they are helping themselves from becoming the new victims.

If they want to chase away 20,000 killers from Zimbabwe and you were informed to cross into Zimbabwean border and block them from entering South Africa in anger, will you say no.....let the 20,000 killers enter inside South Africa first and spread around, then we will be looking for them to fight them?

Whichever way you guys think and write rubbish on this forum, all intelligent military officers around the world have agreed that the best way to crush 30,000 insurgents is to move against them from all borders and squeeze them into the centre.

These 3 African countries have used the best military strategy in the world, and the future generation of West and Central Africans will thank them for it.

Who cares about the senseless opinion of Southies of Nairaland? We talking about winning a war for Africa against terrorism that even NATO super powers failed to defeat in Afghanistan after 13 years of hi-tech firepower war by USA and UK against Taliban
.

lezz:
Economists? I am not one neither do I pretend to be one.
But I remember in my secondary school days, I was taught about under population, over population and optimal population back then.

China which is nearly 2 billion isn't yet over populated.

Is it a coincidence that the most populated countries in their respective continents are the biggest economies? I.e Brazil, the US, Germany, China, Nigeria.

Population is a threat to smaller countries like yours. Countries with huge population are almost economically self reliant as far as market, trading and economy is concern.

Your customers are waiting, you should write them their receipts, you sales boy.

Patchesagain:
Economy - not most advanced, not biggest PP

Population - and so? Population is a curse, not a blessing

Military - 1780 pages say otherwise

Billionaires - Egypt leads Africa with 7, followed by RSA with 4 and Nigeria with only 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_the_number_of_US_dollar_billionaires

IT- [citation needed]

Telecom's - yeah totally, thats why South African firms dominate your market, also, consult the attached map for mobile coverage (pic 1)
- South Africa has Africa's 6th fastest internet connections (despite our Geographic disadvantage) and Nigeria 8th
http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2012/04/africas-top-ten-countries-with-fastest-internet-speeds/

Investment HUB - And yet Johannesburg South Africa remains the investment and financial capital of Africa and ranks amongst cities like Zurich, Hong-Kong and Shanghai
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/204556

Democracy - South Africa is the 71st most democractic country in the world, Nigeria is only the 104th
http://democracyranking.org/?page_id=14

Religion - We have ZERO religious wars, you are in the middle of one.

"dynamic and entrepreneural citizenry" - and yet our companies dominate your markets

Clown

notobs:
Nigerian Tycoons Lead Africa's 50 Richest To Gains In 2014
Reported by Zina Moukheiber and Mfonobong Nsehe, with additional reporting from FORBES AFRICA, Christopher Helman, Chase Peterson-Withorn and Katia Savchuk. Edited by Kerry A. Dolan with Abram Brown and Luisa Kroll

For the first time in the four years that FORBES has been tracking Africa’s richest, Nigeria bests South Africa. At the top yet again is cement tycoon Aliko Dangote of Nigeria, joined on the list of Africa’s 50 Richest by 12 other countrymen. In comparison South Africa claims 11 spots, down from 14 a year ago. Nigeria is showing its strength, having earned commendations for its efforts to snuff out Ebola in the country, which Dangote helped fund — and despite a recent drop in oil prices.

The Richest Man in Africa: Aliko Dangote
The Richest Man in Africa: Aliko Dangote

There are four new billionaires on the list: Orji Uzor Kalu of Nigeria, Tony Elumelu of Nigeria, Theophilus Danjuma of Nigeria and King Mohammed VI of Morocco. That brings the number of billionaires on the list to 28, up one from 27 last year. Three billionaires on last year’s list are no longer members of the 10-figure club: Vimal Shah of Kenya is off the list, replaced by his father Bhimji Depar Shah at a lower net worth. Abdulsamad Rabiu of Nigeria dropped below $1 billion due to ceased operations at his floating cement terminal in Nigeria. (Note: In early December, additional information from Rabiu led Forbes to revise our estimate of his net worth back up to $1.1 billion.) his And South African mining mogul Desmond Sacco dropped to a net worth of $680 million, down from $1.4 billion last year, because of a sharp decline in the share price of his mining firm Assore Group.

For the full list, see www.forbes.com/africa-billionaires

I will take forbes list of billionaires over wiki list anyday. Stop arguing with your betters, Nigeria Leads Africa in Many things, we may be facing the challenges of boko haram, electricity,infrastructure etc at the moment.But this too shall pass, because we Nigerian Have a fighting spirit that cannot be crushed. we will over come.

The envious SA on Nairaland cannot stop that. Listen The UK, US are better enemies of Nigerians than you wanna be Nairaland SA Naija haters. But they have not been able to stop us, rather daily, in the midst of our challenges Nigeria is doing exploits.

mzilakazi:
That list is outdated. More than ten of your billionaires were relegated from the list the moment your government decided to devalue your currency dummy. They will now require lot of billions of Naira to get back on the race.


Meanwhile, number of SA billionaires were increased by hopefully three people. You will to see that soon. dummy.

notobs:
where is your source? I should just take your word for it?

mzilakazi:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mfonobongnsehe/2014/12/23/africas-richest-man-aliko-dangote-loses-7-8-billion-as-naira-stocks-plunge/

lezz:
I thought there was only one southie school drop out. I forgot you are the chief dumbass here. I see, I sent you scurrying to google again.
You went and quoted a source that had the top 10 richest in Africa. You are as foolish as an ostrich.

Now tailor your lazy fingers to BBC, and a slave like you would know what's happening as of now.

Dongote is in 14 African countries already while glo, zenith, eco and a host of other firms and business scatter accross Africa. Anglo dutch companies hurried to Nigeria paying every and anything since 1994 to escape black savages and bushmen from becoming forced shareholders and running the company down.

You and your lots are still the white man's burden right there in your father land, you dripping , rustic savage douche-bag.

Buthurt, Soweto mouse.

notobs:
problem with folks like you is you dont know how to interprete data.
The billionaires list is compiled yearly. Untill 2015 list comes out Nigeria still leads with billionaires in Africa. IF every wealthy mans wealth was tracked each day the stock exchange gains or loss it will be a chaotic exercise.The market fluctuates every second!

Its how they end the year that counts not how much they lose in a day.

mzilakazi:
China is overpopulated dummy, that's why it is a crime in China to have more than two children. They are encouraging their citizens to leave China by giving them subsidy to establish business across the world and live there forever.

Population is a disadvantage because it create a competition over same resources. It create health problems with regard to communicable diseases and generally is a curse. All the countries with big population are poor despite their huge GDP.

Very important, look at individuals and not the whole country. Look at how much a single citizen is worth in any country and you will know hs that country.

Patchesagain:
The only butthurt one here is you
My post is matter of fact and laced with citations
Your post is dripping with emotion and has an astounding zero citations
I have made my point, the facts are clear and unassailable - South Africa is superior in all the criteria you listed
Thanks for playing

mzilakazi:
Chief, this was even discussed on one tv programme about how the devaluation of currency has affected your country. It has kicked out many of your paper billionaires out of the Forbes richest leaving you with only four after SA and Egypt, just only months after you claimed top spot with paper billionaires. It has also slashed down your GDP to less than $500 billion. Anyway since you don't move with time, those news will be revealed to you soon.

notobs:
When the list for 2015 is released until then Nigeria leads.I know you will Not like this because you are a Nigeria Hater but Nigerian Economy Is just Starting to grow and there is enormous room for growth in Nigerian Economy unlike an Ageing, Saturated and unhealthy economy of SA with a trickling growth rate.

Nigerian billionaires have room for growth. Look at our list of billionaires, all young, vibrant, an resilient men compared to your aging "Apartheid" about to die slave masters from SA.

mzilakazi:
Nigeria does not lead, just recently I had the source that showed number of billionaires in Africa where Nigeria did not lead at all. Nigeria's billionaire are just like paper.

notobs:
Am qouting official list of billioners for 2014 and you are quoting an article that shows stock plunge and money devaluation! what guarantees do you have that the Naira will not bounce back and that the stocks will not gain, next week, next month etc?
Like i said wait till the 2015 official list comes out.and stop the redundant argument.

DieVluit:
Please also quote the article that says you do not have crazy numbers of people living on less than a dollar per day.


Quote another one that says you do not have the highest poverty rates and lowest education rates in africa - in Northern nigeria.

Please.

notobs:
And whats the poverty rate of SA. Compared to its population size? facts and figures please.

DieVluit:
So basically, you cannot deny that you have crazy numbers of people living on less than a dollar let day.

You cannot deny that the least educated region on the continent is Northern nigeria.

All you can do is ask aimless questions.

Ok.

notobs:
and neither can you deny that fact for SA.

notobs:
And whats the poverty rate of SA. Compared to its population size? facts and figures please.