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Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Dicksonnadi: 9:28am On Feb 12, 2015
siraj1402:
Of what benefit?A president that can't give us the definition of corruption but start manipulating things.
Young man(fellow compatriot),Define corruption?
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Dicksonnadi: 9:32am On Feb 12, 2015
msmon:
*The president said he doesn't get invitation from muslims? That's sentimental, as the president of a secular state you should treat every religion equally. If possible, visit the Ogboni and traditionalists.

* I don't understand he can't just accept stealing is corruption, I don't care who he quoted whatsoever. If Wole Soyinka of all people said corruption isn't stealing, I will invite him for a debate. Listen mr. President, stealing is a subset of corruption.

* And u have the constitutional power to sack Jega, you must be aware it's with the approval from national assembly.

'It's either a ballot or bullet' come March28!

Cmon shut dat mouth,see babboon wey no sabi hold gun.wen bullet come,no run oo.Conc.mumu
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by ekolina(m): 9:33am On Feb 12, 2015
FYI, BUHARI has attended the council of states meeting once and that was last week so Mr did the right thing not answering
pappilo:
Jonathsn is uncouth.

The question about Buhari wasnt an unfair one or asked to trip him up.

He could have shown himself to be gracuous and a statesman by replying with a diplomatic answer along the lines below:

"General Buhari is a fine gentleman who was once the president of this our great country. He displays his love for this country at our regular council of state meetings. We represnt different political parties but one thing we agree on is moving the country forward."
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Uchizzy(m): 9:35am On Feb 12, 2015
A new president?


What is the man saying?
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Dicksonnadi: 9:37am On Feb 12, 2015
teemanbastos:
Juxt by the way.[question 4 the
day]
People stone thieves but they don't
stone corrupt people.
Mr president was stoned in Bauchi.
What does dat imply?!

If u dnt respect the presidency,even if u becum d class prefect of PRI.4B, Okon will always beat u up after school .he ll even put sand and cock shit into ur filthy mouth.
GEJ I RESPECT
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by bajosky: 9:37am On Feb 12, 2015
pappilo:
Jonathsn is uncouth.

The question about Buhari wasnt an unfair one or asked to trip him up.

He could have shown himself to be gracuous and a statesman by replying with a diplomatic answer along the lines below:

"General Buhari is a fine gentleman who was once the president of this our great country. He displays his love for this country at our regular council of state meetings. We represnt different political parties but one thing we agree on is moving the country forward."

IN UR RIGHT sense of judgement ,DOES YOUR SUGGESTED ThOUGHT DEPICT WHO BUHARI WE KNOW to be.

who will be fooling who

or you want the world to see Gej as a clown.

gmb is not a presidential candidate material but as a paramount ruler Period.
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Lincoln275(m): 9:39am On Feb 12, 2015
adezjamz:
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.


#VoteOutClueless
#VoteInGMB
#GodBlessNigeria
2015, #Godwin
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by msmon(m): 9:41am On Feb 12, 2015
Ode ni e ni?

Dicksonnadi:


Cmon shut dat mouth,see babboon wey no sabi hold gun.wen bullet come,no run oo.Conc.mumu
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by rummmy: 9:42am On Feb 12, 2015
By 2nd quarter of 2015,a new nigeria without God fatherism,where the youth will own nigeria and not decicing us that the youths are leaders of tomorrow will emerge..all the god fathers are now in APC fighting wit their last drop of blood...up GEJ

Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by aksule(m): 9:50am On Feb 12, 2015
In the north or to be precise in hard core north, those people believed in whomsoever is their choice whether a rogue, coup plotters, politicians and stood firmly behind such a person, however in the south they shout of northern domination but threw out their leaders through the window with the help of the same people they told us was dominating them. Maybe they are too read, very wise and above all very patriotic nigerians
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Nobody: 9:54am On Feb 12, 2015
gudnex22:


Better know that dreams come true!!!!!!
Yeah I know...but not all dreams come true...grin...you have to work towards it,if you like dream that you are making 50 billion dollars if you don't work towards it the dream will not come true....
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Horlufemi(m): 10:03am On Feb 12, 2015
armadeo:
Okay oh.

Main points

No comment on a sari and co.

I can sack jega.

I won't change how I rule.



Otherwise fair presentation.





Lastly that guy showing a picture of budget against soludo's claims have u heard of stolen crude, external reserve, loans, recovered loot etc. That budget is based on expected income what happens when you income exceed your expectation.

Walahi, you understand things unlike some children here on Nairaland.

God bless you.

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Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by uanenga(m): 10:07am On Feb 12, 2015
Skillbobralph:
I like where he said " By constitution, I have the power to sack who I appointed"

I thing Jonathan is just too democratic. People like Oshiomole, Tinubu, OBJ, even Buhari will not tolerate all what he is tolerating.

You people knew what happen to critics of OBJ right. Ask Edris Aldukarim, he just said Nigeria jaga jaga and he went on exile for years until the next government entered. And do not also forget those politicians who opposed him ended up in jail like Bode George just because of third tenure saga.

The problem is Nigerians forget things easily and that's why we keep celebrating thieves and corrupt people once they say what we want to hear and forget they did worst during their reign.

Nigeria be wise and vote wisely.. GEJ 2019

Ignorant post, don't you know that the budget is done using crude oil prices and income way below expectation? Stop confusing people with your ignorance.
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by rummmy: 10:12am On Feb 12, 2015
A new youthful nigeria is emerging under gej and this will be seen by the beginin og 2nd qters of 2015 when all the currupt people will be dumped in apc and burried with the party.

Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by hahn(m): 10:17am On Feb 12, 2015
jayseehe:


Is it only me that finds this paragraph funny

Me too. After he has been voted out, I really believe he should go into stand up comedy.
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Boss13: 10:28am On Feb 12, 2015
Skillbobralph:
I like where he said " By constitution, I have the power to sack who I appointed"

I thing Jonathan is just too democratic. People like Oshiomole, Tinubu, OBJ, even Buhari will not tolerate all what he is tolerating.

You people knew what happen to critics of OBJ right. Ask Edris Aldukarim, he just said Nigeria jaga jaga and he went on exile for years until the next government entered. And do not also forget those politicians who opposed him ended up in jail like Bode George just because of third tenure saga.

The problem is Nigerians forget things easily and that's why we keep celebrating thieves and corrupt people once they say what we want to hear and forget they did worst during their reign.

Nigeria be wise and vote wisely.. GEJ 2019

Who is the fool putting up budgets (mathematics made easy). A budget is a planned estimate of revenue and expenses and not what is actually obtained as revenue or what was spent as expenditure. If the government plan to receive $10 billion as revenue, it may actually receive $30billion as revenue and if the govt estimate to spend $1 trillion as expenditure, it may spend $80 billion as expenditure.

Another point, our budget never accounts for estimated tax revenues, revenue from custom duties but mainly Oil revenue. The budget never shows external borrowings which may also be used for expenditures. So there is a possibility of stealing $30billion because at that point oil prices were at an unprecedented high price
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by encryptjay(m): 10:28am On Feb 12, 2015
[quote author=pappilo post=30652013]Jonathsn is uncouth.

The question about Buhari wasnt an unfair one or asked to trip him up.

He could have shown himself to be gracuous and a statesman by replying with a diplomatic answer along the lines below:

"General Buhari is a fine gentleman who was once the president of this our great country. He displays his love for this country at our regular council of state meetings. We represnt different political parties but one thing we agree on is moving the count.
On point.
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by tosyne09: 11:43am On Feb 12, 2015
FOR THE CLUELESS EDUCATED ILLITERATE WHO COULDN'T DIFFERENTIATE 'STEALING AND CORRUPTION'.

let me take this chance and this space and this opportunity and this time to educate those
that are shouting Jonathan is corrupt

what is corruption?

is stealing corruption?

can a president fight corruption?

is corruption a crime?

corruption is a part of human nature. the tendency not to do the expected. a kind of defiance and an act of being unethical. its totally natural and can be controlled.

is stealing corruption?

well its important to draw the line between crime and corruption. stealing is purely a crime and a graduated form of corruption.

corruption is not
necessarily punishable but crime is. so if someone steals,let's leave it to the law enforcement agency
to do their job.

can a president fight corruption?

everyone in a democratic setting is gilded by law.
especially a country like Nigeria that operates a
bicameral legislature. so it is left for the constitution to spell out what is punishable or not.
if the law state that a director must account for their monthly spending and he refuse or is found to have stolen, you don't need the president to tell
EFCC or the police to do their job.
asking a president to fight corruption is like telling him to be a dictator and interfere with the judicial process. then he has the power to accuse anyone and punish. then absolute power will corrupt.

finally how do we fight corruption?

we have seen the Nigerian law makers concern themselves with irrelevant oversight functions where they even ask for bribe in the process. these are supposed law makers that are meant to
strengthen the constitution as the only true tool to tackle corruption.
if our laws clearly spells out how the treasury
should be managed and it States clear punishments, if the constitution gives every
Nigerian the right to question the government on its spendings.if the constitution mandates the governors and chairmen to make public. its monthly spending,then corruption will be fought squarely.

sadly the man that tried to put these things in
place and respect the judiciary by organising town Hall meetings and national conference is being accused of leading a corrupt government. not knowing that we are the ones creating a favourable condition for the cultivation of corruption.

instead we are busy asking for someone who will handpick people and punish them at will. forgething that we run a democratic government and must respect the judiciary.
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by ceejay80s(m): 11:52am On Feb 12, 2015
chrisviral:


Can't you just shut up and pray that our Army will be successful this time, una bad belle plenty oo, tufiakwa.
Thunder wey no get brother go fire u
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by angelsing(m): 11:54am On Feb 12, 2015
OREMUSSANCTUS:
Buhari is close to his grave, I pity him. Just as asiwaju of corruption used and dump ribadu, tinubu willl use and dump him. And for dose yorubaz who wants buhari to contest so dat wen he dies a yoruba man will rule again all planned by tinubu, just knya selling ya birth right cos a time will come wen ya will nid votes from south and east and ya will get non. Tinubu won't be here forever, he will soon die and dose shouting change will pay for it. Sai jona
Do you think we care about the tribe or religion who rules the country?...What will want is good governance..if u can't remember, yoruba's were the biggest critics of Obasanjo regime even down to his hometown
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by mikovo2002(m): 12:05pm On Feb 12, 2015
msmon:
*The president said he doesn't get invitation from muslims? That's sentimental, as the president of a secular state you should treat every religion equally. If possible, visit the Ogboni and traditionalists.

* I don't understand he can't just accept stealing is corruption, I don't care who he quoted whatsoever. If Wole Soyinka of all people said corruption isn't stealing, I will invite him for a debate. Listen mr. President, stealing is a subset of corruption.

* And u have the constitutional power to sack Jega, you must be aware it's with the approval from national assembly.

The bullet will distrole your generation according to what you pray for


'It's either a ballot or bullet' come March28!
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by tomber(m): 12:12pm On Feb 12, 2015
Many people don't watch debates or at least get what was said from credible sources. Below is the exact quote of JEG on corruption.

“Over 70 percent of what are called
corruption, even by EFCC (Economic and
Financial Crimes Commission) and other
anti-corruption agencies is not
corruption, but common stealing.”
the President said during his 7th
Presidential Media Chat on Sunday.
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by chrisviral(m): 12:28pm On Feb 12, 2015
ceejay80s:

Thunder wey no get brother go fire u

Whatever for? grin cheesy
Superstitious minds grin
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by chrisviral(m): 12:30pm On Feb 12, 2015
msmon:
*The president said he doesn't get invitation from muslims? That's sentimental, as the president of a secular state you should treat every religion equally. If possible, visit the Ogboni and traditionalists.

* I don't understand he can't just accept stealing is corruption, I don't care who he quoted whatsoever. If Wole Soyinka of all people said corruption isn't stealing, I will invite him for a debate. Listen mr. President, stealing is a subset of corruption.

* And u have the constitutional power to sack Jega, you must be aware it's with the approval from national assembly.

'It's either a ballot or bullet' come March28!

It's not by gara gara on Nairaland!
Invite wole soyinka ni subset ko.
Enyi face your cloth business for ariaria!
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by gudnex22(m): 12:35pm On Feb 12, 2015
wakacome:
Yeah I know...but not all dreams come true...grin...you have to work towards it,if you like dream that you are making 50 billion dollars if you don't work towards it the dream will not come true....

But he is working towards it!!
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by senatorbayor(m): 12:40pm On Feb 12, 2015
successking:


Do you mean to say that Nigeria has been running on surplus budget all these years? Respond or stay from topics you lack knowledge.
If indeed you have vast knowledge on Budget, you will not spew rubbish or make comment on topics you have no idea of.
if you need to know,Nigeria have been on surplus budget and the more reasons they created ECA which have now depleted when the crude oil price fell
we budgeted around 75dollars per barrel and it sold for 107dollar per barrel
do your calculation and that is only on oil alone not mentioning other generating sectors and the generations from Customs especially the unremitted.
guy! wise up
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Jephyard(m): 1:49pm On Feb 12, 2015
If I am to give a score from the 8th Media chat its 30/100. It so painful to see too many educated illiterate in this forum. Why can't we just learn to reason as individual for once, Nigeria is not about PDP and APC. If it become good is for all and if it bad we all are going to suffer. For God sake GEJ is not intelligent. Among the two presidential candidates I do like to go for GMB not that he is better but he is skilled and apt on how answering interview questions than GEJ. So he won't go the Muslim because he is not invited, My God what have we get ourselves into. And there are still other questions that I don't want to talk it just unfortunate we have an inept president ruling us. #Suffering&SmillingGEJtill2019
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by fritiyo: 2:48pm On Feb 12, 2015
siraj1402:
Of what benefit?A president that can't give us the definition of corruption but start manipulating things.
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siraj1402:
Of what benefit?A president that can't give us the definition of corruption but start manipulating things.
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siraj1402:
Of what benefit?A president that can't give us the definition of corruption but start manipulating things.

are u an illiterate that can not fine the difference between corruption and stealing in ur dictionary.
please the two English words do not mean the same thing.

check ur big book and get some knowledge.
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Nctrice(m): 3:32pm On Feb 12, 2015
Onosy:


all in all wat did u succeed to saying .....NOTHING.

IF STEALING IS NOT CORRUPTION, DAT MEANS NIGERIA'S POLITICIANS R THIEVES because DE TAKE WAY IS NOT THEIRS (NATIONAL CAKE) ABI

QUESTION: IS THERE NO PLACE IN THE CONSTITUTION TO PERSECUTE THIEVES because STEALING IS A CRIME AND A PUNISHABLE OFFENSE, DEN THE POLITICIANS SHOULD FACE D LAW.
U SEE HE S JUST GIVING US CHEAP EXCUSES JUST TO ALLOW THE LOOTING CONTINUE..

THE NEXT THING HE WILL SAY IS LOOTING IS NOT STEALING/CORRUPTION.
it's quit unfortunate that I have to spell everything out in white and black for you! So here is it.

If a man it corrupt, you have to persecute him through due process and all that... for you can't just take him to jail, even if you can because this is democracy! So unless a Buhari want to expunge the constitution and build a big prison yard as big as Nigeria so that every Nigeria is thrown into it for corruption without trial like he did before... anything short of that, then I think it's high time we should reminded him that this is democracy!!!
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Agbonjie(m): 6:40pm On Feb 12, 2015
Keep marching2Buhari's grave
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Onosy: 10:52pm On Feb 12, 2015
Nctrice:
it's quit unfortunate that I have to spell everything out in white and black for you! So here is it.

If a man it corrupt, you have to persecute him through due process and all that... for you can't just take him to jail, even if you can because this is democracy! So unless a Buhari want to expunge the constitution and build a big prison yard as big as Nigeria so that every Nigeria is thrown into it for corruption without trial like he did before... anything short of that, then I think it's high time we should reminded him that this is democracy!!!

so since its due process dat s required to jail criminals in niaja dats y they are retained in govt to keep stealing right.....lame excuse........has he begin d persecution of any corrupt / thief in govt? or he just allow dem to steal more?


d truth is gej may nt be stealing much but he gave licence to his cohorts to steal which makes him a thief too.

be wise!
Re: Full Text Of President Jonathan 8th Presidential Media Chat Today by Onosy: 11:00pm On Feb 12, 2015
fritiyo:
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are u an illiterate that can not fine the difference between corruption and stealing in ur dictionary.
please the two English words do not mean the same thing.

check ur big book and get some knowledge.

we are deviating from d main issues at hand here...... the issue is not whether stealing is corruption or whether corruption s stealing, the issue is y are the thieves in govt stealing our moni not being persecuted? instead gej govt gave dem more licence to steal and he s trying to distract us from the real issue by this controversial statement of stealing not been corruption....

whether stealing is corruption or not their is thief and y has he not persecuted any thief instead allowed them to steal more..... subsidy payment another example.....

a nation where minister of finance, CBN governor, nnpc n all denied payment of subsidy yet extravagant sum was paid by who? u I guess!

be wise!

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