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Upon his arrival, Herrera scored goals against QPR and
Leicester but appears to have been the fall guy as
Marouane Fellaini and Michael Carrick hit form before
Christmas.

But his recent exclusion so Wayne Rooney can play in
midfield has baffled supporters and they'll hope his
performance has shown their new boss what Herrera can
do.

MrTA:
Fact is, LvG should not be composing a report to respond to Big Sam. He should be smacking him off with a one liner which SAF or Mourinho would have done.

But his recent exclusion so Wayne Rooney can play in midfield has baffled supporters

SailorXY:
if we were consistent, we will no more than 3 points behind the league leaders (LvG takes the fall for me - from late December @ least).
only Chelshit has some kind of consistency this year. all we need is gather enough points to finish in top 4, let's see how we streamline & build the first team better for next season. we have adequate depth, but could use better personnel in some starting positions.

coogar:
i don't use a small sample size to do statistics. only amateurs like you do such to sway arguments. in the past 5 seasons......

messi
13/14 - 85%
12/13 - 85%
11/12 - 84%
10/11 - 86%
09/10 - 86%

falcao
13/14 - 85%
12/13 - 80%
11/12 - 77%

rooney
13/14 - 80%
12/13 - 83%
11/12 - 81%
10/11 - 77%
09/10 - 74%

RVP
13/14 - 77%
12/13 - 81%
11/12 - 79%
10/11 - 80%
09/10 - 80%

even a pübic louse knows messi has the best passing stats & highly consistent over the seasons. he's particularly having an average season by his high standards this year - but history has proven elampiro wrong again.......messi is a known excellent passer of the ball.

elampiro is dead!!!

2011/2012 Affellay 94%, Pedro 88%,Iniester 89%, Messi 84%.

2012/13 Pedro 90%, Iniester 90%, Messi 85%,

2013/14, Inietser and Fabregas also beat Messi.

You can see that Messi is always poor and among his lowest in his team. Coolie-died is dead and funeral is calling.

coogar:
says who?
every log you league at, defenders have the highest passing stats. the best passer this season in our team is michael keane(94% pass accuracy)



no wonder he left smalling out of this list.
fraudulent statistician. how come smalling passes the ball better than van persie. oh never mind, smalling is a midfielder.

coogar:
calculate their average passing stats over their entire career and your statistics fall flat on its face.



messi is a forward, barkley is a midfielder.

coogar:
name the forward players that are very strong in this criterion. don't hide under a blanket statement.


elampiro has been found again as a football charlatan!

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coogar:
sneijder had 80%, rooney had 82%
england is a poor passing team. so for rooney to be below england's average itself is a disgrace to wayne rooney.

coogar:
rooney made 24.7 passes per game, sneijder made 48.8 passes per game - that is double the number of passes rooney made.

no wonder england crashed out. rooney is useless.

You are a road side analysts. Rooney's 3rd game was just for 15 minutes.

Rooney played 15 mins in England's last game. Yet you took that as a full game in your analysis. Bush man pappywater .

Rooney defeated Sneidjer in:
1. Goals/ mis
2. Assists/mis
3. Key passes/mins
4. Pass accuracy.

Keypass: Again Messi won it with 23 followed by Robben with 17.

Sneidjer 10 in 586mins= 58.6 to make a key pass.
Rooney 5 194 mins= 38.8 mins to make a key pass.













Coolie-guy Tortoise, good night. See you tomorrow.

elampiro:
You may as well bright out stat from 1920. We are talking about Messi's current stats and also in comparison with his team's average.

2011/2012 Affellay 94%, Pedro 88%,Iniester 89%, Messi 84%.

2012/13 Pedro 90%, Iniester 90%, Messi 85%,

2013/14, Inietser and Fabregas also beat Messi.

You can see that Messi is always poor and among his lowest in his team. Coolie-died is dead and funeral is calling.

You are diverting this argument. We are talking about the Barca team and Argentina team Messi plays. In Barca team, the midfielders have most pass accuracy.

In terms of leaving Smalling, I also left Jones. Do you reason at all. I was pointing to you that Messi was very poor compared to his team mates while RVP and Falcao were good compared to their team mates.

Average passing stats over entire career? I said even Oshoala will make above 85% pass accuracy striking for possession obsessed Barcelona. Ukwu!!! So this comparison is moronic. What's the players pass accuracy vis a vis his team (team mates as well?)

Messi vs Netherlands= 80%.
Barkley vs Costa Rica = 86%
Both from number 10 position. Ukwu!!!

Are you confused or you are deliberately diverting argument? I gave you evidence that it was possible for a forward player to beat a defender's pass accuracy and even team's average and you are here yanning megedefede. RVP is very high in his team pass accuracy list while Messi is languishing at the bottom. This tells me that if Messi should play for Sthletico Madrid, his pass accuracy will be 71% (team % less 5%).

Does this even make sense to you? Sneidjer 79% and Rooney 82%. Sneidjer plays for a better team with higher pass accuracy. Sneidjer should be doing far higher than Rooney.

you are a road side analysts. Rooney's 3rd game was just for 15 minutes.

Rooney played 15 mins in England's last game. Yet you took that as a full game in your analysis. Bush man pappywater .

Rooney defeated Sneidjer in:
1. Goals/ mis
2. Assists/mis
3. Key passes/mins
4. Pass accuracy.

Keypass: Again Messi won it with 23 followed by Robben with 17.

Sneidjer 10 in 586mins= 58.6 to make a key pass. Rooney 5 194 mins= 38.8 mins.

Coolie-guy Tortoise, good night. See you tomorrow.

coogar:
so iniesta & fabregas are now forwards? mumu. we said messi is the best passing forward in europe & this mumu is posting yeye stats.

you are a liar....
you made a passing statement that messi is not known as a passing expert?

you are a liar....
you never compared messi to team mates. you said messi cannot pass at all & you put him in ronaldo's category.

you are an idïot....
how come suarez & neymar aren't on 90% passing stats then?




this is the same liar that said argentina played 4-3-3 yesterday & messi was a striker.



defensive players always have the highest passing stats and rightly so. they pass the ball where opponents can't be bothered to pressure them.




stop lying - sneijder has 80% pass accuracy. where did you see 79%. sneijder doesn't play for a better team. england had more players playing for top teams than holland. rooney's wages alone in a year would pay the wages of all the players that lined up for holland - minus robben & RVP.




who cares if it's 15 mins - i said per game. that's what whoscored is all about. they rate per game. all the stats you pulled out of there in the last 4 years were per game too. don't cover up for rooney's idiöcy.



at the end of it all.....
sneijder's team finished 3rd, rooney's team got dumped out after 2 games. sneijder has achieved more than rooney in either club or country. rooney is just an overrated piece of shytë that hasn't shot on target in 2015.

*. I listed Affellay for you. I put Pedro. Fabregas also played forward in some matches. Messi even scored 80% in same position Barkley posted 86%. Ukwu!!
* Messi does not have a pass accuracy for teams. Period! Same with Ronaldo. Their passing accuracy in proportion to their team passing accuracy. Ronaldo is 81%, -5% from Madrid's average of 86%. Messi is 83%, -5% from Madrid's average of 88%.
*Sneidjer did not have 79.9% at the world cup. I did not round up for any player to avoid confusion.
* You per game is misleading. Any stats we bring on per game, we narrow it down to per minutes when it warrants. Don't try to Tortoise this.

elampiro:
*. I listed Affellay for you. I put Pedro. Fabregas also played forward in some matches. Messi even scored 80% in same position Barkley posted 86%. Ukwu!!
* Messi does not have a pass accuracy for teams. Period! Same with Ronaldo. Their passing accuracy in proportion to their team passing accuracy. Ronaldo is 81%, -5% from Madrid's average of 86%. Messi is 83%, -5% from Madrid's average of 88%.
*Sneidjer did not have 79.9% at the world cup. I did not round up for any player to avoid confusion.
* You per game is misleading. Any stats we bring on per game, we narrow it down to per minutes when it warrants. Don't try to Tortoise this.

coogar:
you have been found out......
79.5% alone is 80%, what is 79.9%? how come some players have their percentage rounded up to a whole number and some have decimals? are you sure you went to school? you cannot even tidy up numbers to present statistics?

anyways, is the player below the biggest liability in the world of football?

elampiro:
* I did not round up for nay player.

* Rooney is playing in midfield for us. He is doing what the coach asked him to do by maintaining positional discipline to shield the back. How many goals and assists do we have from Carrick, Young and Janujaz this season? When last has Mata scored an EPL goal?

coogar:
450 mins, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 shots on target

from this position,
•blind has scored twice
•ramsey got 20 goals last season
•alex song got 14 assists at arsenal

how unreliable can rooney be?

elampiro:
SailorXY, the boss has explained and spoken. He corroborated my stance that our midfield has shielded the defenders better since Rooney went there.


Louis van Gaal praised the performance of Wayne Rooney, who had to drop into a deep midfield role against Burnley on Wednesday.
Used primarily as a forward throughout his career so far, Rooney's withdrawn position under Van Gaal has led to criticism by some but the manager does not agree.
"I have to look for the better balance and I think until now because of Rooney we have a better balance in midfield, I was very pleased how he replaced Daley Blind in the number six position.
"He showed composure and of course he was also today the Rooney that I want to see but he has showed that he can play in every position.
"Maybe he can better play in a striker's position but then I have a problem in midfield."
[Source: goal.com]

elampiro:
Mata has gone 508 EPL minutes without a goal from even a more advanced position. 328 EPL minutes without an Assists.

Rooney even tried too much sef.

coogar:
how unreliable can rooney be?

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falcao made the perfect run. any professional player earning £500 per week should ping a through pass from rooney's position but what did england's golden boy do? he went backwards.

our strikers are not firing cos rooney is worthless.

my gif isn't loading, jeeez..... pictures will do.

[img]http://imgur.com/a/rf7Zc[/img]

coogar:
that's a lie.
mata must have scored, assisted or hit shots on target. please provide the evidence. how can mata go almost 6 full games without testing the goalie?

elampiro:
Rooney just got an alert of 300k. Cooagr, go and cry.

Van Persie refused to play Mata for a tap into an empty net against West Brom.

elampiro:
He did not score. That's what I told you. He also went a long spell without Assisting. I gave you the minutes.

Dadehmola:
I don't get this o..

As regards Herrera being benched, Does it mean that a kroos, modric or scholes/ xavi ( in their hey days) won't make our starting 11 as we speak?

coogar:
that's understandable!
if van persie feels he can score, he's entitled to ignore mata & take the shot.

rooney wasn't even attempting to score, he was attempting to pass backwards. falcao was through on goal if that pass was made. at worst, he would get an assist.

rooney - biggest liability in europe.




which period was this?
be a man & provide the exact month or year mata started 5 full games consecutively without scoring or assisting or shooting on target.

take up the challenge....

elampiro:
You cant see Falcao was offside already?

coogar:
which offside?
falcao was on.....i dunno why the gif didn't load. falcao made the run from deep & mumu rooney ran back.

elampiro:
Ask Gaal. I think it depends on the partnership and balance of the team. I gave the example where we played all creative players twice and we did poorly. blind and Herrera will have to get used to EPL physicality, high sped and lots of flying balls.

Dadehmola:
In the diamond formation employed by LVG when we were getting results and playing well ( atleast to a reasonable extent), which players dey there Abeg?

elampiro:
Clear offside from the first picture.

coogar:
it's a pity you are not used to watching games on curved TV yet. that pass was on - the rooney of 3 seasons ago would make that pass.

there's no way rooney can know falcao was offside from where he was. he went back & then lost possession. how can people blame falcao & VP when rooney is clueless with the ball?

elampiro:
It's clear here that Falcao was offside. Rooney was intelligent enough not to pass to him, if it were one of those inexperienced players he would have passed it and lost possession to referee's whistle. Rooney's other alternative would have been to send it with his left foot to Di Maria.

Dadehmola:
I don't get this o..

As regards this so-called balance (and Ofcourse, herrera being benched),Does it mean that a kroos, modric or scholes/ xavi ( in their hey days) won't make our starting 11 as we speak?

coogar:
falcao wasn't offside - stop supporting nonsense. rooney was too sloppy to see the pass.

coogar:
where's the mata stats?
the one that says mata didn't score or assist or take a shot on target? don't tell me you have closed your laptop.