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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:39pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
no one have seen them,we have watched videos of the NA training exercises and deployment to battle,yet we didnt see any mercenary either training our troops or leading them into battle.we have seen pictures too,but even then,no mercenary popped up in any picture.
so where are the mercenaries?
South African mercenaries DO NOT EXIST inside Nigeria
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 3:55pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
So, does it mean that their privacy should be encroached upon? Does it mean that their movements should be restricted within the borders of SA? The answer for both question is a big NO. Those people are not criminals and if being an ex-soldier makes you a criminal then I don't know.
they may be citizens,but due to the fact that they are mercenaries,they still have the capacity to pose a threat to national security or even distabilize foreign policy{as your defence minister claimed that they did by 'illegaly' working for our DHQ}.every citizen has a right to privacy,but national interest erodes all forms of individual rights
of course you wouldnt let them know that they are being watched,thats the point of "watching" them.
these things need to be done for the greater good.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 4:00pm On Feb 17, 2015
agaugust:
South African mercenaries DO NOT EXIST inside Nigeria
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@oga agaugust,your face don scarce for this thread o...
though,i understand the need for hibernation once in a while.
yes,everyone knows that their arent any foreign mercenaries in nigeria,these zulus are just being mischievious.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:36pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
they may be citizens,but due to the fact that they are mercenaries,they still have the capacity to pose a threat to national security or even distabilize foreign policy{as your defence minister claimed that they did by 'illegaly' working for our DHQ}.every citizen has a right to privacy,but national interest erodes all forms of individual rights
of course you wouldnt let them know that they are being watched,thats the point of "watching" them.
these things need to be done for the greater good.
Your suggestions are baseless, because everybody can become a mercenary. I can also become one if I so wish and tell me how will the government know of my intention? SA has many ex-soldiers that you can never trace their whereabouts unless if you want to turn yourself into a fool.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:38pm On Feb 17, 2015
agaugust:
South African mercenaries DO NOT EXIST inside Nigeria
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Give us a source to corroborate your claim.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:41pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
no one have seen them,we have watched videos of the NA training exercises and deployment to battle,yet we didnt see any mercenary either training our troops or leading them into battle.we have seen pictures too,but even then,no mercenary popped up in any picture.
so where are the mercenaries?
Somewhere in Nigeria flying your gunship and fighter jets. They have taken over your airforce.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by fydence: 5:01pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
Somewhere in Nigeria flying your gunship and fighter jets. They have taken over your airforce.
Stay off that weed U smoking...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:08pm On Feb 17, 2015
These Southies are very funny indeed. Nigerian Pilots have been flying drones from TAC in Makurdi, newly delivered helos with precision weapons and night attack capability are being delivered and then they turn round and say make-believe Southie mercenaries will just walk up to the helo and start flying precision strikes.

It is being done by well trained Nigerian Air Force pilots. Sorry to disappoint you, the Pilots had been training in Eastern Europe for a while. You can't change facts. You will just have to live with it.

I told you guys a couple or so weeks ago to just watch what is going to happen. You thought I was joking.

Make I hear word jare.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:17pm On Feb 17, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:20pm On Feb 17, 2015
Edward @DonKlericuzio · 18h 18 hours ago
Over 400 #BokoHaram fighters were fri-sun killed by Nigerian forces who liberated monguno NE nigeria with 2 streit APC's n SUV's recovered
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:21pm On Feb 17, 2015
rka1:
These Southies are very funny indeed. Nigerian Pilots have been flying drones from TAC in Makurdi, newly delivered helos with precision weapons and night attack capability are being delivered and then they turn round and say make-believe Southie mercenaries will just walk up to the helo and start flying precision strikes.

It is being done by well trained Nigerian Air Force pilots. Sorry to disappoint you, the Pilots had been training in Eastern Europe for a while. You can't change facts. You will just have to live with it.

I told you guys a couple or so weeks ago to just watch what is going to happen. You thought I was joking.

Make I hear word jare.
You denying the facts which were also proved by SA government. One of my former colleague has also joined the company which has gone to Nigeria. Rather argue with the facts.


http://newsrescue.com/nigeria-charters-100-mercenaries-south-africa-help-fight-boko-haram-sa-fumes/#axzz3S1HAPIUy
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:23pm On Feb 17, 2015
rka1:
Edward @DonKlericuzio · 18h 18 hours ago
Over 400 #BokoHaram fighters were fri-sun killed by Nigerian forces who liberated monguno NE nigeria with 2 streit APC's n SUV's recovered
Ideas, strategies, plans and organisation brought about by noble former SA soldiers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 5:27pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
Your suggestions are baseless, because everybody can become a mercenary. I can also become one if I so wish and tell me how will the government know of my intention? SA has many ex-soldiers that you can never trace their whereabouts unless if you want to turn yourself into a fool.
grin grin grin grin it doesnt change the fact that our secret service operatives infilterated{invaded} your country under the nose of your precious 'sophisticated' intelligence service,struck a deal with your mercenaries and transported them to nigeria using our military aircrafts in your airspace.
above all,your defense minister confessed that he only heard about the 'illegal transaction' from an obscure media group named beeld.isnt that pityful?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:29pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
Give us a source to corroborate your claim.
You make the original claim, you show us photos or official government sources to prove your phantom claims.

SANDF denied it and Nigerian army denied it. Only one South African junior minister is claiming the rumour without proof and a dozen unrecognised internet journalists are copy pasting her single story being recycled and circulated online in copy copy mode.

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2015/01/27/sandf-unaware-of-soldiers-in-nigeria

Same way a newspaper says SAAF jets are in Nigeria bombing Boko Haram in support of Chad.

Two weeks ago a newspaper report in Uganda said the Ugandan army has completed mobilization and will deploy troops and weapons inside Nigeria this month. Uganda army officials denied the story.

Last week another newspaper published that President Goidluck has requested America to deploy US Marines into combat against Bokos inside Nigeria. Government denied it.

I stopped commenting on this forum because Southies have turned this thread into a lie and falsehood peddling webpage, it's no longer an informative and exiting talk arena, all because South Africans are shocked and ashamed as Nigeria launched final offensive and begins to demolish Boko Haram from all angles, recovering towns by flushing out Boko fighters, also NAF has blasted Sambisa forest HQ of Boko Haram and NA special forces are currently flushing Bokos out of the forest with artillery and missile armed Drones in support.

By the way, mercenaries are not military, SA mercenaries are NOT the South African national military, they are private companies and have no relevance on this topic WHO HAS THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA.

You show us photo or official proof of South African mercenaries inside Nigeria....you show us proof !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 5:33pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
Somewhere in Nigeria flying your gunship and fighter jets. They have taken over your airforce.
okay,lets just ASSUME that your mercenaries are flying our jets and helicopters,how many aircrafts can they fly?,we have squadrons of different gunships,can your notorious mercenaries fly each and every one of them?.
tut tut tut tut.......
dont be ridiculous sweetheart,your mercenaries cannot fly a paper kite even if their beards depended on it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 5:37pm On Feb 17, 2015
@PunkyBrewster
welcome to nairaland
foreign affairs forum
best military thread
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:49pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
@oga agaugust,your face don scarce for this thread o...
though,i understand the need for hibernation once in a while.
yes,everyone knows that their arent any foreign mercenaries in nigeria,these zulus are just being mischievious.
Chief EVarns, I stepped aside from this forum because South Africans could not stomach Nigerian militarys world class combat success rate at lightning speed of our final offensive, so the Southies began to mess up this thread with FALSE STORIES.

I left them alone to entertain themselves with rants, delusion, illusions and misinformation. Their problem, not mine.

Nigerian military seen in current training with white men are old trainings with Americans, or current training with Isrealis, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Romanians, including experts from private companies that sold us new weapons like PGM armed night combat Alpha jets, T-72 tanks, BVP M80 IFV, RM-70 MRLS, Gazelle combat helicopters, and Puma combat helicopters. Many of our new weapons are purchased from private companies that have contracts to train Nigerian military on use of new weapons they sold to us, that is world standard, you sell me weapons you train me how to use them. Some training with the European weapon dealers is done inside the Nigerian NE war zone because we cannot withdraw soldiers and pilots from battlefield and send them to Europe for training on every new weapon we just purchased.

When the forum recovers sanity, I will be commenting again regularly. For now, I leave the Southies to entertain themselves with delusions and illusions...a fool will always be a fool, so why worry? grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:50pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
okay,lets just ASSUME that your mercenaries are flying our jets and helicopters,how many aircrafts can they fly?,we have squadrons of different gunships,can your notorious mercenaries fly each and every one of them?.
tut tut tut tut.......
dont be ridiculous sweetheart,your mercenaries cannot fly a paper kite even if their beards depended on it.
The former SA special forces received specialised training to fly gunships, that was in case they hijack one. The former pilots received specialised training as well to fly enemy aircrafts from MIGs, Mirage, Hinds, etc.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m):
agaugust:
Chief EVarns, I stepped aside from this forum because South Africans could not stomach Nigerian militarys world class combat success rate at lightning speed of our final offensive, so the Southies began to mess up this thread with FALSE STORIES.

I left them alone to entertain themselves with rants, delusion, illusions and misinformation. Their problem, not mine.

Nigerian military seen in current training with white men are old trainings with Americans, or current training with Isrealis, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Romanians, including experts from private companies that sold us new weapons like PGM armed night combat Alpha jets, T-72 tanks, BVP M80 IFV, RM-70 MRLS, Gazelle combat helicopters, and Puma combat helicopters. Many of our new weapons are purchased from private companies that have contracts to train Nigerian military on use of new weapons they sold to us, that is world standard, you sell me weapons you train me how to use them. Some training with the European weapon dealers is done inside the Nigerian NE war zone because we cannot withdraw soldiers and pilots from battlefield and send them to Europe for training on every new weapon we just purchased.

When the forum recovers sanity, I will be commenting again regularly. For now, I leave the Southies to entertain themselves with delusions and illusions...a fool will always be a fool, so why worry? grin grin
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No false stories but only confirmed stories with sources, yet you don't provide yours to counter our claim. You just only claim because you want to.

You can never deny the facts.


http://www.naij.com/385393-boko-haram-nigeria-hires-sa-mercenaries-illegally.html
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:18pm On Feb 17, 2015
CHAOS IN PARLIAMENT!
http://news.yahoo.com/africas-zuma-under-fire-over-chaos-parliament-152100782.html
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"dishonorable" "cockroach" "hooligan" Insults and curses were traded between parliamentarians on tuesday,after last week when lawmakers were forcefully dragged out of the parliament
"you are not an honourable man..." Mmusi maimane,a lawmaker of the opposition 'democratic alliance' told zuma who was sitting face to face,a few metres away from him.
prompting zuma to break into a grin.
maimane complained that when the police had invaded the parliament last week,to drag out opposition lawmaker,zuma had burst out laughing.
earlier,baleka mbete,an ANC parliamentarian had described julius malema as a "cockroach",prompting malema to accuse mbete of inciting people to kill him.malema had condemned last week's parliament invasion,claiming that they had been "dragged out with their private parts".climbing the podium,malema described zuma as a "hooligan".
"we arent afraid of you..." malema said to a grinning zuma
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:25pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
CHAOS IN PARLIAMENT!
http://news.yahoo.com/africas-zuma-under-fire-over-chaos-parliament-152100782.html
.
"dishonorable" "cockroach" "hooligan" Insults and curses were traded between parliamentarians on tuesday,after last week when lawmakers were forcefully dragged out of the parliament
"you are not an honourable man..." Mmusi maimane,a lawmaker of the opposition 'democratic alliance' told zuma who was sitting face to face,a few metres away from him.
prompting zuma to break into a grin.
maimane complained that when the police had invaded the parliament last week,to drag out opposition lawmaker,zuma had burst out laughing.
earlier,baleka mbete,an ANC parliamentarian had described julius malema as a "cockroach",prompting malema to accuse mbete of inciting people to kill him.malema had condemned last week's parliament invasion,claiming that they had been "dragged out with their private parts".climbing the podium,malema described zuma as a "hooligan".
"we arent afraid of you..." malema said to a grinning zuma
The chaos was on Thursday and has passed. We all forgot about it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:29pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
The former SA special forces received specialised training to fly gunships, that was in case they hijack one. The former pilots received specialised training as well to fly enemy aircrafts from MIGs, Mirage, Hinds, etc.
you are telling me that your mercenaries who were trained 10 year ago,learnt how to pilot every single aircraft in the world?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:32pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
The chaos was on Thursday and has passed. We all forgot about it.
nope,that was a different one where lawmakers were being dragged around with their private parts{according to malema}..hahahahahaha....this one happened today,check the breaking news.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:34pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
nope,that was a different one where lawmakers were being dragged around with their private parts{according to malema}..hahahahahaha....this one happened today,check the breaking news.
Nope, I was watching the parliamentary proceedings today. It was just an ordinary debate on state of the nation address.

No chaos at all.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:48pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
Nope, I was watching the parliamentary proceedings today. It was just an ordinary debate on state of the nation address.
No chaos at all.
well,there wasnt any punching,kung fu,taek wang do,or police invasion today.but there was a lot of insult and rhetorics,that is the 'chaos' i'm talking about.if you watched today's parliament proceedings,you would have heard enough of "cockroach" "hooligan" "broken men" and other insults been traded around in parliament.
it was particularly amusing when malema claimed to have been dragged out of parliament last week with his pen.is
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:25pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
well,there wasnt any punching,kung fu,taek wang do,or police invasion today.but there was a lot of insult and rhetorics,that is the 'chaos' i'm talking about.if you watched today's parliament proceedings,you would have heard enough of "cockroach" "hooligan" "broken men" and other insults been traded around in parliament.
it was particularly amusing when malema claimed to have been dragged out of parliament last week with his pen.is
That's what politicians usually do all over the world. That's what they are paid to do. Thus, let's go back to military discourse.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:38pm On Feb 17, 2015
FighterPilot:
That's what politicians usually do all over the world. That's what they are paid to do. Thus, let's go back to military discourse.
only south african politicians do that.
thus,we are back to military discourse.
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NIGERIAN AIRFORCE TO WEAPONIZE ITS AGUSTA HELICOPTER.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:44pm On Feb 17, 2015
agaugust:
Chief EVarns, I stepped aside from this forum because South Africans could not stomach Nigerian militarys world class combat success rate at lightning speed of our final offensive, so the Southies began to mess up this thread with FALSE STORIES.

I left them alone to entertain themselves with rants, delusion, illusions and misinformation. Their problem, not mine.

Nigerian military seen in current training with white men are old trainings with Americans, or current training with Isrealis, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Romanians, including experts from private companies that sold us new weapons like PGM armed night combat Alpha jets, T-72 tanks, BVP M80 IFV, RM-70 MRLS, Gazelle combat helicopters, and Puma combat helicopters. Many of our new weapons are purchased from private companies that have contracts to train Nigerian military on use of new weapons they sold to us, that is world standard, you sell me weapons you train me how to use them. Some training with the European weapon dealers is done inside the Nigerian NE war zone because we cannot withdraw soldiers and pilots from battlefield and send them to Europe for training on every new weapon we just purchased.

When the forum recovers sanity, I will be commenting again regularly. For now, I leave the Southies to entertain themselves with delusions and illusions...a fool will always be a fool, so why worry? grin grin
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Sanity will only return when you can start to be sane yourself. The moment you will start to corroborate your lies with sources, that's when it will return immediately.


Chief stop telling lies. You bought your weapons from black market as confirmed by senior ranking officer. Black market does not offer training and obviously it was given to you by SA mercenaries. Majority of weapons that you procured lately were formerly also used by SADF from advice given to you by your acquired advisers called mercenaries from SA. No private companies that offer you training, that's a pure lie. SA confirmed the departure of those mercenaries and awaiting patiently for their return, unless your government comes up with something to negotiate for their forgiveness.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:49pm On Feb 17, 2015
EVarn:
only south african politicians do that.
thus,we are back to military discourse.
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NIGERIAN AIRFORCE TO WEAPONIZE ITS AGUSTA HELICOPTER.
Nigerian politicians literally fought with fists in the parliament recently. Do you remember?


Well, about arming your Agusta, I hope it would SA to test it first. I heard they have completely hijacked your Air force. They command your fleet.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:04pm On Feb 17, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:22pm On Feb 17, 2015
agaugust:
South African mercenaries DO NOT EXIST inside Nigeria
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I have said that over and again! Man on the NE fronts telling it as it is! cool cool cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:31pm On Feb 17, 2015
NaijaPikinGidi:
I have said that over and again! Man on the NE fronts telling it as it is! cool cool cool
Yet you make us tired by not quoting a source to debunk claims by our government and media. Please give us a source.
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