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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by daveP(m): 11:11pm On Mar 31, 2015
Zone

Tribe

Religion

this is the criteria used by our leaders to pick who leads this country.

Obj- Atiku

Yar adua-Gej

Gej-Sambo

Buhari-Osibanjo


now look at how zone is used

two south-obj, Gej

two north-YarAdua, And now Buhari


2) now unto religion- none has been the same since the pairing began. The rotation is complete now. But we dont know the pattern they sold the future of this nation to

north now has power, south takes it next or north goes twice(irrespective of term) then south?

3) Tribe- an Igbo man to become president? This is one of ?? Im now realizing is part of the devilish deal way back after that war.

Alot of selling out by the so-called "heroes past" which ONLY a few are able to hear about. Well......(shrugs)


i just wish a 3rd neutral party gains ground to make these two rear up to reality.


The North made it more obvious than the South. Hmm

LHM
Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by shortgun(m): 11:13pm On Mar 31, 2015
ikenga67:


But at least the Northerners were voting for one of their own? When did the Ijaw become one with us? Have they even be good neighbours?
In 2011 the Yoruba voted for GEJ (or allowed him to claim their vote), but in 2015 they decided that he no longer represented their interest and switched to the opposition. The Tiv of Benue state did the same thing too. So how did the Igbo got so hooked on GEJ that they gave him embarrasing %? Of course it has not been for anything he did for us because he has not? It could not be for anything he promised us because he just totally lacks what it takes to deliver on any meaninful promise.
We went embarrasingly deep for GEJ because our so-called leaders (the Peter Obis, the Iwuanyanwus, etc) were very succesful in basically selling us a dud. It was never out of any principal or any high-minded ideology that we became GEJ's tools. It was because we had been propagandized into believing all manner of fanciful things.
I am as Igbo as it comes, but one thing that never seems to marvel me is how such an individualist people can be so susceptible to propaganda and primal fears. I just can never understand it
Nwanne, without been bias GEJ has done well for Ndi Igbo more than any other previous Governments in Nigeria. If for Nothing else our sons and daughters has risen to enviable positions under his administration, we have an international Airport in Igboland thanks to GEJ. I can go on and on. Our interests are better protected with Goodluck.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by Onegai(f): 11:15pm On Mar 31, 2015
Quick question:

In 2011, the entire SW and North Central (Taraba and Plateau and co) overwhelmingly voted for GEJ. In 2015, the same regions gave their votes to Buhari.

So why are you people now calling them tribalistic?

And yeah, us SS people don't align ourselves with Igbo politics. Some of it is tribal but a lot of the animosity stems from the fact you guys are constantly claiming us "our brothers and our cousins" and there is a lot of dominancy to that claim. It makes us uncomfortable (an example of that is when Igbos meet me and expect me to speak Igbo, when I tell them I'm not, they brush it aside and tell me "you are as good as Igbo" as if my identity and culture don't matter. I don't care how similar you think we are, please respect that difference. I don't call everything above the Niger Hausa-Fulani, why should you call SS your kinsman without them welcoming it? ) An Urhobo man won a seat in Lagos, yet all I'm hearing is "Igbos are growing their clout in Lagos", because apparently his tribal identity is now Igbo (btw I'm from his constituency, he was winning Yoruba votes and not Igbo).

My mum queued up for hours to vote GEJ. If it had been an Igbo candidate, she would have realised her back would hurt from all that standing, there would probably be violence at the poll and used quite a lot of excuses to stay at home. Same thing with my relatives and a lot of SS voters.

You constantly lament about being victims of tribalism yet are tribalistic. GEJ got his largest number of votes from SS states and everyone there feels Igbos let him down by not turning out massively to support him. Because they (and i) kept hearing from so many Igbos "GEJ is our man" and no other reason backed it up save misplaced tribal sentiment. No Igbo state could give him up to 800, 000 votes yet here you all are, still arguing and beating your chests. grin

You've proved you cannot be relied on by any political party attempting to court you (even the SW you're insulting gave him more votes and if I'm a politician now, I will certainly brush up on my Hausa because those guys are loyal grin )

I'm not starting a war, just being truthful.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by 0ldirtybastard(m): 11:16pm On Mar 31, 2015
splashbaby:
You are wrong....Igbos supported GEJ because they wanted weak Nigeria because of their Biafra dream,...beside they don't like Yorubas and Hausas...

Just behold your reasoning.
Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by splashbaby(m): 11:20pm On Mar 31, 2015
0ldirtybastard:


Just behold your reasoning.
above your reasoning

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by eCollynzo: 11:21pm On Mar 31, 2015
focus7:
You just revealed your level of ignorance. Leave poltics aside, igbos are the most tribal sentimental in Nigeria and it will keep them farther backward if they don't come out of it. Beside the election has really help to expose the political value of the igbo nation in Nigeria political scheme. It is amazing that the whole electoral records from the whole of igbo land is not up to electoral records from three states from the South South, igbos has no electoral value any nation political candidate should rely on, that was one of the mistake Jonathan made.
And what political value did Yorubas display when Buhari's margin of victory in the South west is wiped out by Anambra votes alone. How was the mighty Lagos votes neutralised?
Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by ikenga67: 11:21pm On Mar 31, 2015
shortgun:

Nwanne, without been bias GEJ has done well for Ndi Igbo more than any other previous Governments in Nigeria. If for Nothing else our sons and daughters has risen to enviable positions under his administration, we have an international Airport in Igboland thanks to GEJ. I can go on and on. Our interests are better protected with Goodluck.

Internatioal airport I will not even touch? As for the people he appointed into office, they will soon all be private citizens in Lagos/Abuja and trying to warm their ways into the good books of GMB. I ask you directly, is the primary interest of the Igbos in just having their own in temporary possitions? Do you care about the lack of security in Igboland? What has GEJ done to address that? Do you care about the brain drain from Igboland? Do you care about the worsening crony-capitalism that is destroying the Igboman's natural competitive advantage? Are you concerned about the impact of the deepening corruption on our ability to project our enterprising spirit? or you just want Okonjo Iweal for Finance Minister and Ihejiriaka as COAS?

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by champion69(m): 11:23pm On Mar 31, 2015
pendicle:
It is the rigged result that is confusing most people they assumed the 99% difference between GEJ and GMB is a reflection of the mindse of easterners.

PDPs stealing of the vote cast for APC in the SS and SE did so much injustice to the unity and disversity of the people of Nigeria.
They caused huge loss to the positioning of both regions in the heirarchy of leadership in Nigeria.

Now the Leadership of the national assembly will be shared solely between the entire north and the south west solely.

It's a hard lesson for people of the south east for allowing the massive rigging in their enclave because they thought they were helping their cousin from the delta.

These your assertion clearly shows that APC is a regional party unlike PDP that is more of a national party where they have personal from all regions to represent them in any capacity

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by 0ldirtybastard(m): 11:27pm On Mar 31, 2015
splashbaby:
above your reasoning

Still making zero sense, dude.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by 0ldirtybastard(m): 11:28pm On Mar 31, 2015
splashbaby:
above your reasoning

Dry dude.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by Ojiofor: 11:30pm On Mar 31, 2015
The presidential election is over and I expect Ndigbo to move on with their lives not minding what haters are saying about them and the choice they made in supporting Gej.There is nothing Ndigbo will do to please nigerians,if we split our votes they will accuse of disunity and when we vote in block they will screem tribalism.meanwhile this is the first time yorubas have voted for a winning party at federal level since 1960 they have always voted for their regional partiy and they call it political sophistication.
Ndigbo are not in Nigeria to live up to other tribes expectations.....Nigerians should quite judging us in every step we take if this coubtry must move forward.finally,congratulations to the president elect, Gen Buhari and Apc and nigerians in general.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by Supremor(m): 11:33pm On Mar 31, 2015
splashbaby:
You are wrong....Igbos supported GEJ because they wanted weak Nigeria because of their Biafra dream,...beside they don't like Yorubas and Hausas...
just what it seems. Since the abortion of biafra the igbos have made theirselves sidelined by picking out northerners and the Yorubas as enemies and will not subject to logical reasoning but rather assume that my enemy's enemy is my friend even when they stand no chance to gain anything from giving such support; I've been previlege to have words with a lot of igbo people and can confirm that most of them still smart from the botched biafran seccession and as such conditioned their thinking and decision making on this subject matter. If anyone question Yoruba not supporting Jonathan then I'll ask if he was not massively voted for in the west in 2011 and still got significant numbers even now; while he was acting president even while certain figures from his tribe disowned himt the Yoruabas stood by him and fought against the forces of the cabals

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by 0ldirtybastard(m): 11:34pm On Mar 31, 2015
Onegai:
Quick question:

In 2011, the entire SW and North Central (Taraba and Plateau and co) overwhelmingly voted for GEJ. In 2015, the same regions gave their votes to Buhari.

So why are you people now calling them tribalistic?

And yeah, us SS people don't align ourselves with Igbo politics. Some of it is tribal but a lot of the animosity stems from the fact you guys are constantly claiming us "our brothers and our cousins" and there is a lot of dominancy to that claim. It makes us uncomfortable (an example of that is when Igbos meet me and expect me to speak Igbo, when I tell them I'm not, they brush it aside and tell me "you are as good as Igbo" as if my identity and culture don't matter. I don't care how similar you think we are, please respect that difference. I don't call everything above the Niger Hausa-Fulani, why should you call SS your kinsman without them welcoming it? ) An Urhobo man won a seat in Lagos, yet all I'm hearing is "Igbos are growing their clout in Lagos", because apparently his tribal identity is now Igbo (btw I'm from his constituency, he was winning Yoruba votes and not Igbo).

My mum queued up for hours to vote GEJ. If it had been an Igbo candidate, she would have realised her back would hurt from all that standing, there would probably be violence at the poll and used quite a lot of excuses to stay at home. Same thing with my relatives and a lot of SS voters.

You constantly lament about being victims of tribalism yet are tribalistic. GEJ got his largest number of votes from SS states and everyone there feels Igbos let him down by not turning out massively to support him. Because they (and i) kept hearing from so many Igbos "GEJ is our man" and no other reason backed it up save misplaced tribal sentiment.

I'm not starting a war, just being truthful.

Sorry for you.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by asha80(m): 11:37pm On Mar 31, 2015
Onegai:
Quick question:

In 2011, the entire SW and North Central (Taraba and Plateau and co) overwhelmingly voted for GEJ. In 2015, the same regions gave their votes to Buhari.

So why are you people now calling them tribalistic?

And yeah, us SS people don't align ourselves with Igbo politics. Some of it is tribal but a lot of the animosity stems from the fact you guys are constantly claiming us "our brothers and our cousins" and there is a lot of dominancy to that claim. It makes us uncomfortable (an example of that is when Igbos meet me and expect me to speak Igbo, when I tell them I'm not, they brush it aside and tell me "you are as good as Igbo" as if my identity and culture don't matter. I don't care how similar you think we are, please respect that difference. I don't call everything above the Niger Hausa-Fulani, why should you call SS your kinsman without them welcoming it? ) An Urhobo man won a seat in Lagos, yet all I'm hearing is "Igbos are growing their clout in Lagos", because apparently his tribal identity is now Igbo (btw I'm from his constituency, he was winning Yoruba votes and not Igbo).

My mum queued up for hours to vote GEJ. If it had been an Igbo candidate, she would have realised her back would hurt from all that standing, there would probably be violence at the poll and used quite a lot of excuses to stay at home. Same thing with my relatives and a lot of SS voters.

You constantly lament about being victims of tribalism yet are tribalistic. GEJ got his largest number of votes from SS states and everyone there feels Igbos let him down by not turning out massively to support him. Because they (and i) kept hearing from so many Igbos "GEJ is our man" and no other reason backed it up save misplaced tribal sentiment.

I'm not starting a war, just being truthful.
the person that made that 'igbos are growing their clout in lagos' is actually a Hausa guy with the monker nduchucks..if have been in nairaland long enough and engaged him you will know....if they ss feel igbos let down Jonathan because the turn out for presidential election was not much despite him getting the majority of votes then they ss should have canvased for more support from other zones.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by shortgun(m): 11:37pm On Mar 31, 2015
ikenga67:


Internatioal airport I will not even touch? As for the people he appointed into office, they will soon all be private citizens in Lagos/Abuja and trying to warm their ways into the good books of GMB. I ask you directly, is the primary interest of the Igbos in just having their own in temporary possitions? Do you care about the lack of security in Igboland? What has GEJ done to address that? Do you care about the brain drain from Igboland? Do you care about the worsening crony-capitalism that is destroying the Igboman's natural competitive advantage? Are you concerned about the impact of the deepening corruption on our ability to project our enterprising spirit? or you just want Okonjo Iweal for Finance Minister and Ihejiriaka as COAS?
I think it's time I also ask you a questions : what has previous governments before Goodluck done for the Igbos?
To answer some of your questions :
Federal government cannot provide security for all ; other regions have more security problems.

Am surprised that that you refer to the Igbos as corrupt.
Igbos that were given appointments were on merit and federal character.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by splashbaby(m): 11:39pm On Mar 31, 2015
0ldirtybastard:


Dry dude.
Ds one too dry ...go sleep dude ...we are celebrating now

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by bismarck: 11:41pm On Mar 31, 2015
focus7:
Beside the election has really help to expose the political value of the igbo nation in Nigeria political scheme. It is amazing that the whole electoral records from the whole of igbo land is not up to electoral records from three states from the South South, igbos has no electoral value any nation political candidate should rely on, that was one of the mistake Jonathan made.

I think you are very wrong with your assertion...In fact, if not for anything, its the SW that made nonsense of their electoral value, with non-Yorubas winning elections in Lagos, and the very low voter-turnout, (about 4.4m voters across 6 six states), despite having more stake in this election. I still salute the spirit of people in SE, who tried to make it a contest between the parties, despite not having anyone on the ticket of either PDP or APC and also been short-changed in govt's developmental projects so far.

That said, I still believe that SE political leaders must seriously begin to invest their energy in a party that protect their interest. This has always been my personal opinion, especially as it is now obvious that the Hausa-Fulani would always vote their own, irrespective of any other logic. The defeat of President Jonathan, I insist, is very-much ethnically motivated and has nothing to do with Buhari been a better choice!! Its time for SE, and by extension, Ndigbo to secure their interests in APGA, and use it as a bargaining chip to negotiate political power with other regional blocks. Had it been such was the situation BEFORE this election, I doubt if any Presidential candidate in this country will win during the first ballot....
Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by splashbaby(m): 11:44pm On Mar 31, 2015
0ldirtybastard:


Still making zero sense, dude.
dirtyoldbastard go and sleep...you're on slowmo ...no carry am enter new month ...we refused to take GEJ into the new month

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by Pdizzle(m): 11:47pm On Mar 31, 2015
sinizia:


Let's call a spade a spade! You needed to hear the comments coming from most of your kinsmen (that I crossed paths with) on their reasons for supporting Buhari (a particular Yoruba lady said she knows Tinubu is more corrupt than GEJ but since PDP has no Yoruba as a VP, she'll go for APC because of Osibanjo).

Just like saying APC is corrupt but if a Yoruba rep is there, I can overlook it.

We voted out incompetence.. simple. Was the VP a Yoruba in 2011?

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by BecaciaBarbie(f): 11:58pm On Mar 31, 2015
oakson:
As far as am concerned Yorubas remain the most detribalised tribe in Nigeria, as we were torn into two by the two parties. Going by the avalanche of votes that were ceded to Jonathan in the east, I can convincingly assert that igbos are far from being a nationalist! Its so glaring... Let's call a spade a spade! You need to hear the comments coming from most of your kinsmen (that we crossed paths) on their reasons for supporting GEJ(a particular igbo lady lost 600thousand naira due to the fall of the naira yet she sees nothing wrong in GEJ's govt).
Just like saying he is ours let him ruin it if he likes
I love this comment...and the last paragraph got me laughing grin

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by nduchucks: 12:02am On Apr 01, 2015
What is the purpose of this thread? This should be a day of celebration for all Nigerians. Why una wan spoil am with tribalism like dis.

When will you people be sober
Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by Nobody: 12:07am On Apr 01, 2015
nduchucks:
What is the purpose of this thread? This should be a day of celebration for all Nigerians. Why una wan spoil am with tribalism like dis.
When will you people be sober

I dey laugh ooo. Nigeria has won and all Nigerians should celebrate. Not be so, Mallam?
Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by airmark(m): 12:07am On Apr 01, 2015
Pdizzle:


We voted out incompetence.. simple. Was the VP a Yoruba in 2011?

Help me ask ooo. Every reasonable and selfless Nigerian knows Jonathan failed.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by nduchucks: 12:08am On Apr 01, 2015
Liegeria:


I dey laugh ooo. Nigeria has won and all Nigerians should celebrate. Not be so, Mallam?

How would you rather have it? Would you have preferred that today marked the start of another civil war? una no dey tire?

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by smallJagaban: 12:12am On Apr 01, 2015
IGBO ARE HYPOCRITE. SOUTH SOUTH AND SOUTH EAST VOTED BASED ON ETHNICITY...

JONATHAN WAS STILL ABLE TO PULL NUMBER OF VOTES IN NORTH AND SOUTH WEST. IN NASARRAWA, GOODLUCK WON. IN KOGI, JONATHAN RAN AT THE SAME NECK WITH BUHARI. IN TARABA, GOODLUCK WON.

IN SOUTH WEST, GOODLUCK WON ONLY IN EKITI. IN OTHER 5 STATES IN SOUTH WEST, GOODLUCK ALSO RAN AT NECK WITH BUHARI (ONLY ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOODLUCK AND BUHARI

YORUBA VOTED BASED ON NEUTRAL GROUND.

IN SOUTH SOUTH AND SOUTH EAST, GOODLUCK FLOORED BUHARI. SOUTH AND SOUTH VOTED BASED ON ETHNICITY BUT THEY'RE OVERPOWERED BY NORTH AND SOUTH WEST.

DON'T SEEK FOR EMPATHY AT ALL. EVEN BEFORE THE ELECTION IT WAS GLARING THAT SOUTH SOUTH AND SOUTH EAST WILL VOTE FOR JONATHAN.....

THIS IS A SIGN TO IGBO THAT YORUBA IS MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN IGBO IN ALL RAMIFICATIONS..

YORUBA DOESN'T OWN IGBO ANYTHING, KOBO, DIME.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by Nobody: 12:13am On Apr 01, 2015
nduchucks:


How would you rather have it? Would you have preferred that today marked the start of another civil war? una no dey tire?

Lol. We are on the same page. No victor, no vanquished.

But on a more serious note, it's a good development for Nigeria and all Nigerians, regardless of region or religion, should celebrate. I also hope we can really grow PDP to be a formidable opposition party so we can sustain this two-party system. NEVER again should we go back to regional parties.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by nduchucks: 12:15am On Apr 01, 2015
Liegeria:


But on a more serious note, it's a good development for Nigeria and all Nigerians, regardless of region or religion, should celebrate. I also hope we can really grow PDP to be a formidable opposition party so we can sustain this two-party system. NEVER again should we go back to regional parties.

A big Amin to that.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by Olufemiolaolu(m): 12:16am On Apr 01, 2015
shortgun:
My brother one of the reasons why GEJ conceded defeat is to prevent people from been killed (especially Igbos) in the North and other parts of the Country.

It's very glaring that this Election was massively rigged in favor of APC in the states where they controlled.

An average Northerner is tribal ; but they will be quick accuse other tribes of tribalism.
Hmmmmmmmmm & rivers nko? what was pdp looking while apc was rigging it?
Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by Nobody: 12:17am On Apr 01, 2015
bismarck:


I think you are very wrong with your assertion...In fact, if not for anything, its the SW that made nonsense of their electoral value, with non-Yorubas winning elections in Lagos, and the very low voter-turnout, (about 4.4m voters across 6 six states), despite having more stake in this election. I still salute the spirit of people in SE, who tried to make it a contest between the parties, despite not having anyone on the ticket of either PDP or APC and also been short-changed in govt's developmental projects so far.

That said, I still believe that SE political leaders must seriously begin to invest their energy in a party that protect their interest. This has always been my personal opinion, especially as it is now obvious that the Hausa-Fulani would always vote their own, irrespective of any other logic. The defeat of President Jonathan, I insist, is very-much ethnically motivated and has nothing to do with Buhari been a better choice!! Its time for SE, and by extension, Ndigbo to secure their interests in APGA, and use it as a bargaining chip to negotiate political power with other regional blocks. Had it been such was the situation BEFORE this election, I doubt if any Presidential candidate in this country will win during the first ballot....

Oga, they may be non-Yoruba, but we see them as qualified Lagosians.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by hercules07: 12:20am On Apr 01, 2015
ikenga67:


Internatioal airport I will not even touch? As for the people he appointed into office, they will soon all be private citizens in Lagos/Abuja and trying to warm their ways into the good books of GMB. I ask you directly, is the primary interest of the Igbos in just having their own in temporary possitions? Do you care about the lack of security in Igboland? What has GEJ done to address that? Do you care about the brain drain from Igboland? Do you care about the worsening crony-capitalism that is destroying the Igboman's natural competitive advantage? Are you concerned about the impact of the deepening corruption on our ability to project our enterprising spirit? or you just want Okonjo Iweal for Finance Minister and Ihejiriaka as COAS?

You have actually spoken well, Afam's post is nothing to write home about. The Igbos need to understand that having your sons and daughters in places of high position is not what you require, it will be better to have none and get developments than have some without anything coming to your region. One other thing that grates with most people is this air of superiority, why not allow others to say you are exceptional, those who can see will always acknowledge good traits when they see one. The Igbo nation supported GEJ in order to spite the SW and the North, the one thing they did not realise was that the SE vote is not significant in the scheme of things, a better attitude would have been to give some votes to APC and some to PDP, even if it is 4 to 1 or 3 to 2, thank God for the Okorochas and the Ngiges, I am very sure they will fight for the interest of their regions not their pockets, we need each region to be strong and formidable, no region must be left behind in our quest for development.

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Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by oakson: 12:22am On Apr 01, 2015
grin
BecaciaBarbie:

I love this comment...and the last paragraph got me laughing grin
Funny but true o
Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by vislabraye(m): 12:23am On Apr 01, 2015
shortgun:
My brother one of the reasons why GEJ conceded defeat is to prevent people from been killed (especially Igbos) in the North and other parts of the Country.

It's very glaring that this Election was massively rigged in favor of APC in the states where they controlled.

An average Northerner is tribal ; but they will be quick accuse other tribes of tribalism.

Let the SW continue licking aboki arrss. They will regret.

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