₦airaland Forum

RareDiamond:
It is no longer news that the great Igbo people are true promoters of unity in Nigeria with the Igbos developing far away lands where they reside across Nigeria and West Africa. The wisdom, intelligence, brilliance, tolerance and ingenuity of the hard working Igbo people are not in doubt.

Lagos have been and is still the major non Igbo state beneficiary of Igbo developmental contributions with Igbos rapidly developing the real estate, commercial, manufacturing, entertainment, education and other socioeconomic structures of Lagos State. Thereby, greatly boosting the Lagos economy by the income generated from huge Igbo paid tax, provision of employment opportunities for Lagos residents by the large number of Igbo Industrialist and business men and women, provision of luxury and affordable accommodation which beautify Lagos unlike other Yoruba states, provision of social amenities like potable water, roads, health care and scholarships by the Igbos to Lagos resident as well as boost the quality of education by provision of quality private schools.

One of the major reason Lagos is the economic center of Nigeria is because the Igbos developed the manufacturing sector and control the Lagos markets and continue to invest and spend on the Lagos economy thereby improving the overall purchasing power of the Lagos economy.

I make bold to state that Lagos would have been under developed like other Yoruba states if not for the numerous vital Igbo contributions to its economy. Ask yourself why Abeokuta and Ibadan is backward and under developed despite being close to Lagos and being Yoruba regional headquarter respectively.

maestroferddi:
Stop talking nonsense!

Most Igbos respect the Yorubas but we cannot accept a situation where a high-ranking traditional ruler chooses to speak like a tout.

Does it interest you that Yoruba communities are gradually growing in some cities like Onitsha and Enugu?

We Igbos thrive under competition and would readily welcome others in our society provided they would be adding value.

The Igbos have earned their pride of place in a city like Lagos. We therefore will not accept any sort of intimidation or patronising attitude from any misguided person in Lagos no matter how highly placed.

ayowonder:
tell me which ibo state is as developed as lagos

adeyemik:
Olodo jatijati. Abeokuta and Ibadan that you mentioned are far better and developed than Imo, Abia and Enugu. Before the mass migration of the ignos to Lagos in the early 1980, Lagos was the most developed state in Nigeria, even far developed than the UAE in the 80's. Ops, in what form and manner did the igbos developed Lagos.

Ops, read about Lagos developmental history from 1920 to date, stop watching Lagos developmental history from home videos/CD.

Nigeria: One Country Four Economies Discussion Points
By
Falalu Bello, OFR


a) South West Economy

South Western Nigeria with a Land Mass of 76,852 square kilometres and population of 25.2 million today owns and/or control 60% of the nation’s industrial capacity, 44% of banking assets, 67% of insurance assets and is house to the nation’s three deep sea ports of Apapa, Tin Can Island and Roro; the busiest international airport of Ikeja, three thermal stations of Egbin, Papalanto and Omotosho. Today, its three major industrial estates of Agbara, Ikeja and Otta are all linked to gas under the West African gas pipeline plan and piping of gas is ongoing from Otta to Abeokuta. Added to these, the South Western population today is the most educated as western education came through there and education as a resource was democratized since the early sixties. Geographical location, democratization of western education, availability of resources enhanced in last 9 years and some empowerment during the Obasanjo administration have collectively enabled the South Western economy to rank as first of the four economies in Nigeria. Today, the South West as a region can boast of having a defined growing middle class and is perceived to have at least 20,000 of its indigenes with net worth of over N100m each. Take it out of Nigeria, the South West economy with is defined growing middle class and resources, will be one of the fastest growing economies in the world.


b) The South-East plus Delta

The South Easterners plus their cousins across the Onitsha bridge control commerce in all parts of Nigeria and are thus largely employed. The region has clusters of small scale industries around Nnewi and Aba. The banking consolidation has assisted these people to now have ownership and or control of over 50% of Nigerian banking assets. It also controls 21% of the nation’s insurance assets and 20% of industrial assets. With this development, this region which has not had a commanding control over Nigerian economy will certainly begin to do that now. Commercial activities backed by finance can only grow the economy of South-East plus Delta. The growing strength of financial muscle of this region has been aptly demonstrated by the recent licensing of Micro Finance Banks. Of the over 600 MFBs recently licensed by the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), Anambra State alone had 74 whilst Yobe State had 1, Sokoto 5, Zamfara 6, etc. There exists also in this economy a middle class which will now grow itself in number and financial muscle and will almost certainly grow its economy inclusive particularly of small and medium sized industrial base.


c) The Northern Economy

The North which geographically is 719,435 Square Kilometers or 79% of Nigeria’s landmass and has 75 million or 53.6% of Nigeria’s population has its economy as a consequence of various reforms introduced, been totally grounded. Today, the North has ownership and/or control of no more than 3% of banking assets and 2% of insurance assets and 10% of industrial assets. True, the North has a huge landmass but this has remained under exploited due to jettisoning of time tested policies of price support (as a result of abolishing of marketing boards without putting alternatives) and abandonment of extension services and quality control. Also, the North has a huge population but the population has remained largely uneducated and/or half educated because of near failure of governance in certain States and Local Governments. Currently its most distinguishing characteristic is grinding poverty. Recent poverty statistics indicate that the poverty level of States in the North has been on the increase in the last 9 years and reached over 80%. Its two commercial and industrial nerve centers (Kano and Kaduna) have seen industrial capacity utilization decline to an all time low of less than 10%. The textile, automobile and beverages companies that thrived so impressively in the 1970s and 1980s have collapsed rendering thousands jobless. Although hydroelectricity is generated at Kainji Dam and in lesser quantities at Shiroro Gorge and at several smaller sites, the entire mechanisms are run on very obsolete equipment and the performance is consequently very epileptic and unsuitable for meaningful economic activity.


d) The South South minus Delta

The South South is largely in the creeks of Niger Delta and has therefore a small land mass of only 48,321 square kilometers and is populated by 13.6 Million people. Notwithstanding the fact that it is house to Nigerian Oil wealth, this region exclusive of oil company activities like the North is also backward economically. It controls no more than 3% of banking assets, 10% of insurance assets and no more than 10% of industrial assets on account of oil related industries that the indigenes do not control. Furthermore, its overstretched land mass has suffered considerable degradation and its aquatic life destroyed. As a region, its people and economy are worst off than the North as it lacks fresh environment, water and even good air to breath.

RareDiamond:
It is no longer news that the great Igbo people are true promoters of unity in Nigeria with the Igbos developing far away lands where they reside across Nigeria and West Africa. The wisdom, intelligence, brilliance, tolerance and ingenuity of the hard working Igbo people are not in doubt.

Lagos have been and is still the major non Igbo state beneficiary of Igbo developmental contributions with Igbos rapidly developing the real estate, commercial, manufacturing, entertainment, education and other socioeconomic structures of Lagos State. Thereby, greatly boosting the Lagos economy by the income generated from huge Igbo paid tax, provision of employment opportunities for Lagos residents by the large number of Igbo Industrialist and business men and women, provision of luxury and affordable accommodation which beautify Lagos unlike other Yoruba states, provision of social amenities like potable water, roads, health care and scholarships by the Igbos to Lagos resident as well as boost the quality of education by provision of quality private schools.

One of the major reason Lagos is the economic center of Nigeria is because the Igbos developed the manufacturing sector and control the Lagos markets and continue to invest and spend on the Lagos economy thereby improving the overall purchasing power of the Lagos economy.

I make bold to state that Lagos would have been under developed like other Yoruba states if not for the numerous vital Igbo contributions to its economy. Ask yourself why Abeokuta and Ibadan is backward and under developed despite being close to Lagos and being Yoruba regional headquarter respectively.

ibedun:
IGBOS DEVELOPED LAGOS

They built ROADs
They built DAMs
They built POWER PLANTs
They built Industrial EState
They built Bridges
They Built General Public Hospitals
They built Express ways
They buuilt even more express ways all the way the Enugu, Aba, Onitcha
They built Niger Bridge in Lagos and tolled it
They built all the street lights
They built international and local airports self - before Steal-er Odua was born sef
They built Lagos even before their 4-fathers reached lagos
They installed the Oba of Lagos there
They Builts all the Oba Palaces
They Created Lagos state
The appointed Fashola

The Almighty IGBOS, so magnanimouns the built Lagos-Ibadan express way follow.

Igbo the owners of Lagos, as we speak sef they are busy drilling the Lagoon so that Igbo people dont fall inside after Saturday.

Kai, my house needs finishing and I must go and beg the Igbos to make it possible.

Infact i now end my prayers with "In Igbos Name"

Anuofia!! Nwokem, Rebellious ingrates!! shameless refuge forming Lagosian.

Gbawe:
[b]@OP. You are an ignorant fool. I usually ignore your sort because your low IQ and cretinous idiocy means your brain is incapable of taking in knowledge. Yet I will contribute the article below for the sake of ignorant folks from the SE "lagos/SW will die if we pull out" and such delusional nonsense. The problem with you guys is that your parents failed to get over the civil war and they brainwashed many of you to the extent you say the most stupid, illogical and asinine garbage that makes you ignorance and deceit personified. The SW would be a thriving Country if it were independent because of the unique and understated talent of the Yorubas you are incapable of giving them credit for because of the vile indoctrination that has turned you into a creature of hate happy to lie to himself and others. Instead of Nigerians, like people of the SS because of the part in bold about the region, to face what is important you will all come online lying band denying the Yoruba credit because of historical hatred. You guys should get over yourself and start respecting others because you are only sensitizing the new generation of Yorubas that you hate us and do not appreciate our tolerant live-and-let-live approach to life.

Be very careful OP. There will only be one loser in the war you guys want today simply because you have not gotten over that fought many decades ago. The article below , for those who don't deceive themselves, show how strong and near independent the SW is today. While the new generation leaders of the region have been working silently you are all bragging all over the place, migrating to the SW and then abandoning the plight of your region of origin. Charity begins at home dude. You and others will not find it funny when you get the confrontation you want so start respecting others and let peace reign in the SW which is a peaceful, tolerant and very accommodating region.


http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7879.htm[/b]

ibedun:
IGBOS DEVELOPED LAGOS

They built ROADs
They built DAMs
They built POWER PLANTs
They built Industrial EState
They built Bridges
They Built General Public Hospitals
They built Express ways
They buuilt even more express ways all the way the Enugu, Aba, Onitcha
They built Niger Bridge in Lagos and tolled it
They built all the street lights
They built international and local airports self - before Steal-er Odua was born sef
They built Lagos even before their 4-fathers reached lagos
They installed the Oba of Lagos there
They Builts all the Oba Palaces
They Created Lagos state
The appointed Fashola

The Almighty IGBOS, so magnanimouns the built Lagos-Ibadan express way follow.

Igbo the owners of Lagos, as we speak sef they are busy drilling the Lagoon so that Igbo people dont fall inside after Saturday.

Kai, my house needs finishing and I must go and beg the Igbos to make it possible.

Infact i now end my prayers with "In Igbos Name"

Anuofia!! Nwokem, Rebellious ingrates!! shameless refuge forming Lagosian.

Gbawe:
Please give it a rest. All decent Yorubas are embarrassed by the utterance of the Oba. We reject it and consider it repulsive. Yet don't come here talking about "intimidation" of any sort because that is not what the Yorubas are about and you know it. You cannot take some utterance from misguided elements to represent the position of the Yorubas. I have Igbo friends from childhood and I have to remind myself of these guys when the foolish OP you failed to criticise starts a polarising and divisive thread like this at a time when rapprochement is needed . You must remember that it is usually the ridiculous, disrespectful and ignorant talk from the OP that Yorubas, acclaimed to have one of the most well-established culture in Africa, resent and often react to.

Mckennedy:
I can see you never travelled outside yoruba land to imo,enugu,Abia the war was fought at SE for 3 yrs with heavy bombardments yet it was rebuilt,,, but there was no war in Ibadan, Abeokuta yet mehn...u talked about Lagos,,yes lagos was former Nigerian capital and it was developed collectively...pls no insult take a trip to imo,abia and Enugu and see the lapses between these places and Ibadan,abeokuta.

huptin:
Rebuilt with what? where are the industries or commercial ventures that can sustain your population in those places? Ogun state alone has more industries than all the south eastern states combined. Match that first b4 you come online to start beating your chests

Mckennedy:
Who are the owners of those Industries and companies ?

maestroferddi:
Stop talking nonsense!

Most Igbos respect the Yorubas but we cannot accept a situation where a high-ranking traditional ruler chooses to speak like a tout.

Does it interest you that Yoruba communities are gradually growing in some cities like Onitsha and Enugu?

We Igbos thrive under competition and would readily welcome others in our society provided they would be adding value.

The Igbos have earned their pride of place in a city like Lagos. We therefore will not accept any sort of intimidation or patronising attitude from any misguided person in Lagos no matter how highly placed.

Mckennedy:
I can see you never travelled outside yoruba land to imo,enugu,Abia the war was fought at SE for 3 yrs with heavy bombardments yet it was rebuilt,,, but there was no war in Ibadan, Abeokuta yet mehn...u talked about Lagos,,yes lagos was former Nigerian capital and it was developed collectively...pls no insult take a trip to imo,abia and Enugu and see the lapses between these places and Ibadan,abeokuta.

RareDiamond:
The burden is on you to tell which yor0ba state is a quarter as developed as Lagos ? Below are pictures of Ibadan the regional capital of the y0robas which is a big under developed slum.

asala1:
Lol, you are funny. Are you comparing Ibadan and Abeokuta to any Eastern states? You must be a patriotic Igbo man. Yoruba people never migrate to Eastern Nigeria because they believe they have all it takes to succeed in the region and the truth is the they have it all there. Americans/Europeans don't migrate to Africa for better life, only the Africans migrates to American/Europe to better their life.

BTW, the picture an average Ibadan man have when you mention Eastern Nigeria is an erosion-ravage red-soil waste land, where cannibals still exist and also a place where brothers kills each other to get a piece of land to build their house. WHO THE HELL WANTS TO LEAVE IN SUCH PLACES?

Mckennedy:
Talk what you know where in the Eastern region have you been to before or you just sit one corner of those mud houses and be talking trash? I lived in Ibadan to precise Iwo road so tell me the developments in Ibadan?

asala1:
Why not stay in Enugu since it is the most developed place in the East. Why come to Ibadan? If you truly live in Ibadan, you will sure know that Ibadan is far more developed than Enugu in all ramification. Why I am I even comparing the two?

Mind you I am not from Ibadan and I don't live there, but I will never live in Enugu for anything.

Mckennedy:
Which Ibadan to be compared with Enugu ? Go to Enugu first b4 you argue further.. Ibadan is very backward to compare with Enugu,, I have left Ibadan long ago the place doesn't suit my person.

asala1:
Lol you are still comparing? That's the Inferiority complex I am talking about. How many Ibadan man will leave Ibadan for Enugu? When you take statistic of migration from Enugu to Ibadan and from Ibadan to Enugu, there will be at least a ratio of like 500:1 respectively. Those that will even migrate to Enugu will definitely be due to Job transfer.

Ask yourself this question, why will any sane person move from IB to Enugu voluntarily?

Gbawe:
@OP. You are an ignorant fool. I usually ignore your sort because your low IQ and cretinous idiocy means your brain is incapable of taking in knowledge. Yet I will contribute the article below for the sake of ignorant folks from the SE raised on a diet of unquestioningly peddling the ignorant drivel that "lagos/SW will die if we pull out" and such delusional nonsense. The problem with you guys is that your parents failed to get over the civil war and they brainwashed many of you to the extent you say the most stupid, illogical and asinine garbage that makes you ignorance and deceit personified. The SW would be a thriving Country if it were independent due to the unique and understated talent of the Yorubas you are incapable of giving them credit for because of the vile indoctrination that has turned you into a creature of hate happy to lie to himself and others. Instead of Nigerians, like people of the SS because of the part in bold about the region, to face what is important you will all come online lying and denying the Yoruba credit because of historical hatred. You guys should get over yourself and start respecting others because you are only sensitizing the new generation of Yorubas that you hate us and do not appreciate our tolerant live-and-let-live approach to life. You have your own issue you never face and must wake up daily to seek confrontation with the Yorubas in an attempt to prove a post-civil war point to us.

Be very careful OP. There will only be one loser in the war you guys want today simply because you have not gotten over that fought many decades ago. The article below , for those who don't deceive themselves, show how strong and near independent the SW is today. While the new generation leaders of the region have been working silently you are all bragging all over the place, migrating to the SW and then abandoning the plight of your region of origin. Charity begins at home dude. You and others will not find it funny when you get the confrontation you want so start respecting others and let peace reign in the SW which is a peaceful, tolerant and very accommodating region.


http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7879.htm

GenBuhari:
Gbawe, you fall ma hand .

How did you allow yourself to be drawn into a tribal e-war?

Please correct your mistake. You are one of the people whose posts are balanced and detribalised.

Please remember that they are people on this forum who may not even be Nigerians or even Africans, making provocative tribal posts, in order to fan the flames of tribalism which they hope would eventually consume the entire country.

You should be helping douse the flame, rather than being drawn into a destructive dialogue.

Mods should delete all tribal threads.

FreeGlobe:
Yorubas said other yoruba states are not developed because they are maintaining their heritage. That answers your question op

Gbawe:
What tribal e-war am I joining? I am a proud Yoruba man and you and other decent Igbos should start telling off the OP and his ilk for peddling offensive and vile nonsense and empty braggadocio merely because the Yorubas are tolerant and accommodating. I will give you a contextual example. If you live next to a racist and he puts down black people before you everyday to say they are criminal, worthless , lazy, parasitic et al and that his race are "God's anointed" and such ignorantly supremacist drivel how long, even if you tolerantly ignored him for a while, before you tell him off for his ignorance? That is precisely what I am doing here. The Yorubas are not behind any ethnic group in Nigeria. They are to be respected for their egalitarian and tolerant ways and not mocked for it.

There is nothing at all wrong with me correcting the fallacies, completely ignorant and highly offensive drivel your kinsmen peddle about Yoruba folks all day long and 24/7 in cyberspace. If you want to "douse any flame" then people like you should start calling the OP and his sort to order. I don't have any interest in disrespecting any ethnic group, because we all play our part in the mix called Nigeria, but I will not tolerate emptily supremacist garbage that always targets the Yorubas as candidate of choice to be disrespected and discredited with ignorant and uncharitable lies from ingrates who should just get on peacefully with others but are instead obsessed with fighting everything and everyone. Play your part if you want peace my friend.