Demdem:


nahhh

I trust u na

PointB:


hehehehehe,

Una go kill persin here.

Anyway, just brace your self for many more long boring, tribalism infused, epistles from that Resident Hypocrite, no 1 worshiper of DoroDullard, the semi-literate cattle herder.

Olodo. Destroyed by how I have factually shown that the constitution excuse of you and others is nothing but ignorant idiocy, given that OBJ has already set a precedence for the sort of cost-cutting Buhari wants to embark on, you are still barking unintelligently. Silly 'robot' with a stilted mind.

That you still show face to talk when all of your co-travellers in hate have taken to their heels and run off shows that the degree of hatred motivating you is indeed greater than that forcing others to post ignorantly and negatively here. Yet Buhari will shame you and other ethnocentric enemies of Nigeria's progress. What OBJ achieved we expect the even more pro-people Buhari to not only achieve but vastly improve upon and surpass. We know this will not please a vile bigot like you so hater, "go and die". Nigeria will make progress and succeed in your lifetime. Bitter fool.

this will b a good move by the incoming govt. come quick may 29

jodanj10:
this will b a good move by the incoming govt. come quick may 29

This is the spirit. It is what Nigeria needs to thrive and make progress and it is what will be achieved by our number one citizen and his pro-people government. Ethnocentric haters and enemies of Nigeria's progress can "go and die".

Gbawe:


Olodo. Destroyed by how I have factually shown that the constitution excuse of you and others is nothing but ignorant idiocy, given that OBJ has already set a precedence for the sort of cost-cutting Buhari wants to embark on, you are still barking unintelligently. Silly 'robot' with a stilted mind.

That you still show face to talk when all of your co-travellers in hate have taken to their heels and run off shows that the degree of hatred motivating you is indeed greater than that forcing others to post ignorantly and negatively here. Yet Buhari will shame you and other ethnocentric enemies of Nigeria's progress. What OBJ achieved we expect the even more pro-people Buhari to not only ahcive but vastly improve upon. Hater, "go and die". Nigeria will make progress and succeed in your lifetime. Bitter fool.

Nkita ara, chest-beating like a gorrilla about how you destroyed your superior only show how conceited you must feel; a mosquito indeed feeling like a bird. Look around you, those you supposedly destroyed are walking around, in their numbers, with their heads high!

How can I blame you, when your whole pathetic life depends on being right on Nairaland. Isn't it a sign of myopia to celebrate an unfounded 'proposal' as solution to Nigeria's plethora of problems. Even when there is little evidence of policy direction in the proposed path?

Intelligent folks are saying that this specific proposal will require constitutional amendment, which has not been proposed, debated, let alone passed into law.

But how will I blame you, when rabble-rousing, and long boring epistle, generously laced with ethnic hatred, particular against Igbos, and anyone with contrary opinion, is your stock in trade.

Gbawe, everyone here know you are a joke; a hypocrite, and ethnic supremacist, who is fully committed to fueling and spreading hate against people from SE/SS! Those who pretend to take you serious, only do so to tolerate you!

Gbawe, mask it anyhow you like, you are one hateful creature! Tufiakwa!!

shaqhead:

I hate to go on and on about this with u and cant place my hand on why u dragging a simple issue.

What I see comin from u is semantic rigmarole; At first u said ALL(250+) ethnic groups must be represented at the centre which I couldnt fathom and that compelled me to take on u.

Now u beat a retreat aand come back to d main argument of the topic at hand by sayin that an indigene should represent d ethnic groups of a particular state at d ethnic level.

My position remains same: Ur position of "effective representaion" does not equate to "effective governance" considering d attendant costs. If this government is to succeed, ds is one way to go among other avenues to cut down on recurrent expenditure so we can have more on capital projects.

U acknowledged what I said about Nigeria being like Solomon but u ddnt maake mention of him takin on unnecessary responsibilities of Wives and Concubines(Ministers) who handle Ministries with overlapping functions that is a clog in the wheel of governance.

Yes Nigeria's strength is in her diversity but the Ministerial appointment from every state which u align wt does nt show the strength of dt diversity. The strength of such diversity is seen when the creative ingenuity of the ethnic groups is tapped for developmental purposes-that is d definition of strength in diversity which gives birth to effective governance, not some "effective representation" by ministers who dont evn kno d ethnic groups in their home states.

Oga,

You hold your opinion but doesn't make it a fact. It is your own opinion. So for us to reason together, make an effort to see where am coming from as I see where you're coming from too. Else, you are free to stop discussing with me.

I made a general statement while having a focus in mind. Of course, you cannot have over 250 Ministers just because you want to give equal representation of all ethnic groups in Nigeria in your government. But since Nigeria is divided along state lines, each state should have a representation at the Federal Level for the sake of equity. 36 Ministers does not necessarily translate to 36 Ministries and that's why you have Minister of State. Also there are other agencies, departments and parastatals of Government.

You talk of effective governance, are you saying that you can't find any credible guy within an ethnic group to head a particular government portfolio? When they say Nigeria is complex, this is one of the reasons. The framers of the constitution had that in mind and so we were divided along state lines and not ethnic lines. So a leader who is suppose to be a leader for all should have a government that shows "EFFECTIVE REPRESENTATION" of all groups so as to avoid the problem of "MARGINALIZATION". Test case is the the Niger Delta agitation. The various agitation for state creation. That was the pivot for establishing a Federal Character Commission. That is what leadership and governance especially in a complex and dynamic society as Nigeria entails.

In pruning government expenses, Ministries with over-lapping functions can be scrapped and merged and same with other departments and agencies of government. Then again, the retinue of staff can be reviewed - continuously done. GEJ did it. GMB should act on Steve's report and also should there be a need for a review, he should sanction it. Most important thing is that the goal is to reduce the government's expenses.

Then again, I think major components of the Federal Government's recurrent expenditures are not from expenses incurred by the Ministers or Special Advisers or Senior Special Assistants. But the Federal Civil Service. That's my take. Most of us shout - cut expenses, trim expenses - how many of us have actually looked at major components of the recurrent expenditures and their percentages relative to the entire sum? Please make your research and don't confuse opinions for facts.

Nigeria's strength is in her diversity and it does not mean "Ministerial appointment from every state " in government. The strength is in our varying and yet intelligent ideas, our collective goals, will and aspirations, as a united house will always stand. It brings about robust and rich discussions and debates about issues affecting us either as individuals or a group, as you get to understand the perspectives and ideas across a spread of people. Our cultural ways, our unique features can be the solution to lingering problems in our society. That is how a society grows and develops.

That is why groundnuts and beans, grown in the North are freely traded in the South. That's why so many cultures have a unique dressing style and you and your wife rush to the fulani man to sew your ankara and aso oke. It becomes beautiful in my eyes, your eyes and everybody's eyes. Then the fulani takes the design to Duara and introduces it to his people. That is why the lady from Tunga can get a herb to a terminal illness affecting the community in Obingwa. That is part of our diversity.

America is the World's Police because of her diversity. They open their doors to all race. They may have their issues too. The Israeli Prime Minister canvassed for votes among the Arab Muslims. Obama did so among the Hispanics and the blacks, and even GMB did so among the Igbos.

I hope you get my point now.

PointB:


Nkita ara, chest-beating like a gorrilla about how you destroyed your superior only show how conceited you must feel; a mosquito indeed feeling like a bird. Look around you, those you supposedly destroyed are walking around, in their numbers, with their heads high!

How can I blame you, when you whole life depend on being right on Nairaland. Isn't it a sign of myopia to celebrate an unfounded 'proposals' as solution to Nigeria's plethora of problem.

Intelligent folks are point the necessary constitutional amendment that this specific proposal will require constitutional amendment, which has not been proposed, debated, let alone passed into law.

But how will I blame you, when rabble-rousing, and long boring epistle, generously laced with ethnic hatred, particular against Igbos, and anyone with contrary opinion, is your stock in trade.

Gbawe, everyone here one know you are a joke; a hypocrite, and ethnic supremacist, who is fully committed to fueling and spreading hate against people from SE/SS! Those who pretend to take you serious, only do so to tolerate you!

Gbawe, mask it anyhow you like, you are one hateful creature! Tufiakwa!!

Sharap my olodo friend. Real Nigerians, interested in the progress of their nation, are talking and a douche-bag enemy of progress like you is opening his ignorant and hateful mouth. All your empty head is filled with is ethnocentric and mindless hatred of others that leads to your unintelligent and sentimental outburst which always end up discredited. For you and other "constitution" jokers I ask : did the constitution take a holiday to Dubai under OBJ who reduced federal Ministries from 22 to 16? R.etard.

Buhari and his govt should wait for war in all kind,we promise nigerians,what you people did to jonathan is just a tip of an ice berg,but for Buhari, he will be the world most insulted president,we are just waiting for him to be sworn first,50 social anti buhari site already opened already to destroy his govt.

PointB:


He reserves the right to call the president elect a dullard, especially since he's been acting as one through his clueless kaftan/trainers combo, and now this ill-conceived pronouncement, among others before and during the election. The president-elect score F9 in mathematics and woodwork even in a dodgy statement of result, surely dullness doesn't go further such poor academic.

But these are beyond the point.

We are discussing the dullard's proposition of scrapping Minister of State portfolio, and wondering if he's read the constitution and is prepared to caused the necessary amendment (through the National Assembly), or whether he's just living up to his reputation as a semi-literate dull president-elect with his usual unintelligent assertions!

You have said it all. Positive changes are always repelled by enemies of progress like you. Cry me a river.

Gbawe:


Don't mjnd the repellent imbec1le. These elections, and the behaviour of some folks thereafter, has shown that some people hate Nigeria and want her to fail. They will just talk malevolently, insultingly and unintelligently against everything The APC government is considering even when these happen to be the right policy drive which must be implemented if Nigeria is to make progress as a nation. Of course there has to be fundamental changes to how things are done. It is either that or Nigeria fails. When the Cameron government gained power in the UK they initiated far reaching cost-cutting reforms that affected sectors that had been virtually untouched for decades !!! No one talked of any constitution or such garbage because of the consideration that in progressive countries the Dog wags the tail and not the other way round. I.e man controls the law, for his own benefit, and not the other way round.

The law and even the constitution cannot be allowed to become an impediment to a nation's progress. The reason this is so in Nigeria's case is because the PDP, since 1999, enjoyed hiding behind the constitution as the reason it can never act in Nigeria's favour whereas the truth is that the PDP, when it fully can, fails to act to secure certain fundamental changes because this will work against the profligacy and waste its members benefit from. Even GEJ called "weak" bullied the legislators when he had to. We remember our legislators saying that GEJ should reverse fuel subsidy removal because they are representatives of Nigerians who had been instructed by Nigerians to reject the unpopular policy. Did GEJ not brush them aside with ease to have his way?

I personally cannot be bothered arguing with anyone about " ccnstitutional limitations and provision" because I know those are scams the PDP has perfected since 1999. Osinbajo is a very intelligent and experienced legal mind. No? We shall see if the constitution will wag the Buhari government or whether the resolve to change Nigeria will tame the constitution excuses PDP hid behind conveniently. I have no time arguing with folks who do not understand that laws are not created to hinder man and must always remain amendable to reflect a new position and changes that will benefit society. Once again it is a case of Nigeria, because of the self-serving greed of particularly PDP leaders, acting in an aberrant manner to the extent most Nigerians now think this to be the norm and even utter the same pathetic excuses PDP used to undermine and regress Nigeria. We shall see.

Well said brother. Love you

Nellybii:


You have said it all. Positive changes are always repelled by enemies of progress like you. Cry me a river.

Indeed. Ask the mumu and others like him whether the constitution was kidnapped and detained when OBJ managed to successfully reduce the size of federal ministries to 16, from 22, only for GEJ to come in and then massively augment them to 42. I think it is obvious that most GEJ fans are ethnocentric and prejudiced elements who are nothing but enemies of Nigeria's progress. Like I always say, it is only very wicked souls and enemies of Nigeria's progress who will continue to support GEJ given all he has done wrong to Nigeria and Nigerians.


http://www.ijirs.com/vol3_issue-7/49.pdf

High Cost Of Governance And Development In Nigeria: A Case Study Of Goodluck Jonathan’s Administration (2011-2014)

Abstract:

The study was embarked upon to examine the high cost of governance in Nigeria and its implication for national development. It focuses on the Goodluck Jonathan’s administration, which has been accused of the rising cost of governance. In addition, the National Assembly, Ministries, Departments, and Agencies (MDAs) have been considered to be a drain pipe in Nigeria because of the huge financial allocations they received in successive budgets to the detriment of development projects in Nigeria. The study used descriptive analysis and relied primarily on secondary sources of data collection. From empirical literature, the study identified the rising cost of governance as inimical to Nigerian socioeconomic development. In view of this, holistic recommendations have been suggested to describe the way forward for the government.



Authors: Oladayo Nathaniel Awojobi

3. Analysis Of High Cost Governance In Nigeria:

This section explains the rising cost of governance under President Goodluck Jonathan:

3.1 Rising cost of governance under President Jonathan:

President Jonathan has been accused of running one of the most expensive Government in the world according to Oyishe and Eme (2013), this is justified by the hugely budgeted amounts that are allocated to feeding, refreshment and foreign trips by the Jonathan's administration. Before leaving office, [size=14pt]former President Obasanjo reduced 22 federal ministries to 16 through the merger of these ministries. President Jonathan, perhaps for political conveniences has increased the pace by creating new ones and splitting all the already merged ministries, bringing the total number of ministries to 42.[/size] Each ministry is supervised by two ministers, a substantive minister and minister of state. The effect of a bloated bureaucracy has been responsible for the high recurrent expenditure in the national budget. Giving a sectional analysis of how Nigeria's wealth is cornered by its officials . The formal minister of the Federal Capital territory, El-rufai disclosed that a "whopping N49.9 billion is used to run each of the 42 ministries, departments and agencies."

Gbawe:


Sharap my olodo friend. All your empty head is filled with is ethnocentric and mindless hatred of others that leads to your unintelligent and sentimental outburst which always end up discredited. For you and other "constitution" jokers I ask : did the constitution take a holiday to Dubai under OBJ who reduced federal Ministeries from 22 to 16? R.etard.

Nkita ara,

You keep talking about reduced Federal Ministries.

The issue here is about scrapping the portfolio of minister of state, not about reducing the number of ministries! Did Obasanjo have only 22 (or even 16) ministers in either his first or second term? You are so dull, it must be genetic! So much for your grasp of basic issue, impatient imp! It's best you go back and read the original post rather than foaming from the mouth like an epileptic id/iot.

Quit embarrassing yourself and speak to the topic, didirin!

PointB:


Nkita ara,

You keep talking about reduced Federal Ministries.

The issue here is about scrapping the portfolio of minister of state, not about reducing the number of ministries! Did Obasanjo have only 22 ministers in either his first or second term? You are so dull, it must be genetic! So much for your grasp of basic issue, impatient imp! It's best you go back and read the original post rather that foaming from the mouth like an epileptic idiot.

Quit embarrassing yourself and speak to the topic, didirin!

I cannot remain here indulging your ignorance or educating you. Suffice to say virtually the entire forum, including those who supported your "constitution" bullcrap earlier on yet have now run off, have the intelligence to see and note what you cannot. 1mbecilic D1mwit.

Nellybii:


You have said it all. Positive changes are always repelled by enemies of progress like you. Cry me a river.

Another ignorant mule!

Gbawe:


Indeed. Ask the mumu and others like him whether the constitution was kidnapped and detained when OBJ managed to successfully reduce the size of federal ministries to 16, from 22, only for GEJ to come in and then massively augment them to 42. I think it is obvious that most GEJ fans are ethnocentric and prejudiced elements who are nothing but enemies of Nigeria's progress. Like I always say, it is only very wicked souls and enemies of Nigeria's progress who will continue to support GEJ given all he has done wrong to Nigeria and Nigerians.


http://www.ijirs.com/vol3_issue-7/49.pdf

Imagine. even the rich suffer in Nigeria yet these Tanoids prefer the status quo. Even with your money the basic infrastructure that make life worth living are non existent. Yahoo boys, drug pushers, hoodlums now roam freely and even take up Government positions in this country where the rule of law has disappeared. Haba !! Shame ohhh what a shame.

Gbawe:


I cannot remain here indulging your ignorance or educating you. Suffice to say virtually the entire forum, including those who supported your "constitution" bullcrap earlier on yet have now run off, have the intelligence to see and note what you cannot. 1mbecilic D1mwit.

Thereupon the nkita ara turn tail and ran off into it's world of ignorance!

Don't let the door hit you, sad old foolish imp!

Nellybii:



Imagine. even the rich suffer in Nigeria yet these Tanoids prefer the status quo. Even with your money the basic infrastructure that make life worth living are non existent. Yahoo boys, drug pushers, hoodlums now roam freely and even take up Government positions in this country where the rule of law has disappeared. Haba !! Shame ohhh what a shame.

No one is asking for the status quo to remain.

We are simply saying making promises in vacuum is nothing but populist stunt! How do you scrap a part of the constitution? Are you sending a bill? Is it by fiat? How?

Unless the how is detailed, it is idiotic to sound triumphant, especially when politician are known for empty promises. And yes, we also support the rule of law!

PointB:


Nkita ara,

You keep talking about reduced Federal Ministries.

The issue here is about scrapping the portfolio of minister of state, not about reducing the number of ministries! Did Obasanjo have only 22 ministers in either his first or second term? You are so dull, it must be genetic! So much for your grasp of basic issue, impatient imp! It's best you go back and read the original post rather that foaming from the mouth like an epileptic idiot.

Quit embarrassing yourself and speak to the topic, didirin!

You get their time bro.. these hypocrites writing long epistles deserves no response. The issue at hand is scraping minister of state postilion, If Obasanjo had 16 ministries, did he also have 16 minsters? if not, what is the portfolios of the other ministers. In 2003 when Obasanjo won re-election, he nominated a total of 42 ministers... 36 from each states and 6 from each geo-political zones

Those who keep shouting that GEJ cabinet is too big, probably didn't understand the reason behind that. It seems that, the APC memeber are encouraging Buhari to dump the constitution once again like he did in 1983. Let's see how far they can go

Nellybii:



Imagine. even the rich suffer in Nigeria yet these Tanoids prefer the status quo. Even with your money the basic infrastructure that make life worth living are non existent. Yahoo boys, drug pushers, hoodlums now roam freely and even take up Government positions in this country where the rule of law has disappeared. Haba !! Shame ohhh what a shame.

If you support rule of law, why would you support Buhari to disregard the constitution?

PointB:


No one is asking for the status quo to remain.

We are simply saying making promises in vacuum is nothing but populist stunt! How do you scrap a part of the constitution? Are you sending a bill? Is it by fiat? How?

Unless the how is detailed, it is idiotic to sound triumphant, especially when politician are known for empty promises. And yes, we also support the rule of law!

Ode, we know what you are. Nothing but an enemy of progress. Your conciliatory talk above cannot change the perception you created of yourself with your negative and unintelligent rants. The substantive point is a President who has political will can make things happen whereas crooks like GEJ you supported bigotedly will hide behind age-long excuses that enable them to rob Nigerians blind sure in the knowledge that bitter enemies of progress like you will help them pass on their message of deceit. Like I told you earlier, you will have the displeasure of seeing Buhari make possible all that the PDP had pledged was "impossible". As if constitutions are rigid documents made never to be amended. Oponu cannot even grasp a very fundamental concept because of his bitter, prejudiced and ethnocentric mindset.

Mykevp2p:


You get their time bro.. these hypocrites writing long epistles deserves no response. The issue at hand is scraping minister of state postilion, If Obasanjo had 16 ministries, did he also have 16 minsters? if not, what is the portfolios of the other ministers. In 2003 when Obasanjo won re-election, he nominated a total of 42 ministers... 36 from each states and 6 from each geo-political zones

Those who keep shouting that GEJ cabinet is too big, probably didn't understand the reason behind that. It seems that, the APC memeber are encouraging Buhari to dump the constitution once again like he did in 1983. Let's see how far they can go

You guys keep chasing your own tails. Who is asking Buhari to dump the constitution? Yet is the constitution, like all other contrived and man-made provisions of law and governance, not subject to amendment? The substantive point is that the law is generally not a tool to impede and frustrate man in his effort to better society even if the PDP loves to give this impression so it can continue to loot Nigeria. Like I said above, you guys will have the displeasure of seeing what the PDP said was "impossible" for the past 16 years become possible, within a short time, under Buhari.

Gbawe:


Indeed. Ask the mumu and others like him whether the constitution was kidnapped and detained when OBJ managed to successfully reduce the size of federal ministries to 16, from 22, only for GEJ to come in and then massively augment them to 42. I think it is obvious that most GEJ fans are ethnocentric and prejudiced elements who are nothing but enemies of Nigeria's progress. Like I always say, it is only very wicked souls and enemies of Nigeria's progress who will continue to support GEJ given all he has done wrong to Nigeria and Nigerians.


http://www.ijirs.com/vol3_issue-7/49.pdf

Stop peddling lies... name the 42 ministries under Jonathan! These is nothing like increasing the number of ministries from 22 to 42. Since OBJ Nigeria has always had 42 ministers which is very different from 42 ministries.

OBJ had 42 ministers,

Yaradua had 42 ministers

Jonathan have 42 ministers

Every minister is assigned a portfolio. Number of ministers does not equate to number of ministries.

Mykevp2p:


You get their time bro.. these hypocrites writing long epistles deserves no response. The issue at hand is scraping minister of state postilion, If Obasanjo had 16 ministries, did he also have 16 minsters? if not, what is the portfolios of the other ministers. In 2003 when Obasanjo won re-election, he nominated a total of 42 ministers... 36 from each states and 6 from each geo-political zones

Those who keep shouting that GEJ cabinet is too big, probably didn't understand the reason behind that. It seems that, the APC memeber are encouraging Buhari to dump the constitution once again like he did in 1983. Let's see how far they can go

Well said bros,

It is the slowpoke Gbawe in his full ignominy, writing long winding load of bull-crap about ministries scrapped, when the issue at hand is a constitutional matter. Ask which of those scrapped ministries are specifically noted in the constitution and watch him foam in the mouth like the epileptic cretin that he is! Yet the fool will mix administrative issues with constitutional ones, and then start bragging about how he destroy his elders!

The old imp is simply a pretentious cretin; take him serious at your own risk!

Gbawe:


You guys keep chasing your own tails. Who is asking Buhari to dump the constitution? Yet is the constitution, like all other contrived and man-made provisions of law and governance, not subject to amendment? The substantive point is that the law is generally not a tool to impede and frustrate man in his effort to better society even if the PDP loves to give this impression so it can continue to loot Nigeria. Like I said above, you guys will have the displeasure of seeing what the PDP said was "impossible" for the past 16 years become possible, within a short time, under Buhari.

The question is, have you made such amendment to the constitution? until those amendment is made, the proposal is just empty populist promise by a politician. If you want to save cost, start from those that are not in the constitution like the number of PAs, SSAs, SA, and there likes. Then move to the salary of the officials. Once you have done that, we will know you are ready for cost reduction.

Gbawe:


You guys keep chasing your own tails. Who is asking Buhari to dump the constitution? Yet is the constitution, like all other contrived and man-made provisions of law and governance, not subject to amendment? The substantive point is that the law is generally not a tool to impede and frustrate man in his effort to better society even if the PDP loves to give this impression so it can continue to loot Nigeria. Like I said above, you guys will have the displeasure of seeing what the PDP said was "impossible" for the past 16 years become possible, within a short time, under Buhari.

Then let him amend it, reduce the waste and earn praises!

What we don't appreciate is idi/otic clownish imp like you asking us to sing his praise for making wild promises, even when every evidence point to that fact that nothing is being done, nor will be done before he takes over, in that regard! Let us see the bill first, at least, before considering sing alleluia!

Sycophancy, and hypocrisy is your stock-in-trade!

Mykevp2p:


Stop peddling lies... name the 42 ministries under Jonathan! These is nothing like increasing the number of ministries from 22 to 42. Since OBJ Nigeria has always had 42 ministers which is very different from 42 ministries.

OBJ had 42 ministers,

Yaradua had 42 ministers

Jonathan have 42 ministers

Every minister is assigned a portfolio. Number of ministers does not equate to number of ministries.

You clearly have comprehension issues. Where did I talk of the number of Ministers? I made it clear OBJ shrunk federal Ministries for the purpose of reducing cost while GEJ increased them to increase cost considerably as several authoritative studies concluded!!!! Furthermore, my consistent argument remains that Buhari can move, through a constitutional amendment, to achieve what he seeks because the law is not designed to be an impediment to man. This is the reality worldwide.

It is folks like you that seem to assume otherwise because you live in a Country where crooks deliberately hide behind the constitution and extant law to explain why our recurrent expenditure is above 70% of total budget while it is less than 10% in many developed Nation. My friend, the way we speak send signals to our leaders. Continuing to accept and defend their excuses gives them the green light to continue stealing with their 80% to 20% ratio. I.e 80% for them and 20% or less for Nigerians. Buhari and the APC should move aggressively to achieve the constitutional amendments that will make possible every measure to cut cost so that capital spending can be augmented massively at the expense of recurrent expenditure.

The point is that PDP presidents already varied nomenclature and Ministerial hierarchy dubiously , even swapping between substantive ministerial appointees for state positions, to get what they want. Do you then think it is so hard or impossible , if a determined President with the political will, wishes to pursue an amendment to do away with Minister of State especially when this is what Nigerians, i.e those with the power, really want? Better accept that things will "change" under Buhari because Nigerians voted for him to bring "change" and not to offer excuses as GEJ did which then led to Nigerians voting him out. Buhari only needs the legislative arm, unaffected by Ministerial changes, to get behind him. You guys may not be happy to concede so but the finest brains, who know how to negotiate and win, are already in Buhari's corner. Even the non-sagacious GEJ got a lot of concession out of our legislature regularly, to include most recently the morally reprehensive 'bow and go' used to confirm Obanikoro a Minister by a majority PDP legislature led by a PDP Senate President, so I don't know where you people get your ideas of legislative rigidity from.

Gbawe:


Ode, we know what you are. Nothing but an enemy of progress. Your conciliatory talk above cannot change the perception you created of yourself with your negative and unintelligent rants. The substantive point is a President who has political will can make things happen whereas crooks like GEJ you supported bigotedly will hide behind age-long excuses that enable them to rob Nigerians blind sure in the knowledge that bitter enemies of progress like you will help them pass on their message of deceit. Like I told you earlier, you will have the displeasure of seeing Buhari make possible all that the PDP had pledged was "impossible". As if constitutions are rigid documents made never to be amended. Oponu cannot even grasp a very fundamental concept because of his bitter, prejudiced and ethnocentric mindset.

This didirin talk about perception, even when I go by the monica "PointB"? Do I look one worried about how I'm perceived in cyberspace? I left that for idi/ots like you who have no other life than in cyberspace!

You keep talking nonsense, because your grasp of the issue at stake is very weak. For the avoidance of doubt, talk is very cheap, and that's what morons like you do all day - talk, talk, and more talk!

Intelligent folks who understand the matter are saying, let us see 'action.' We would not buy into your myopic suggestion of applauding talks, talks, and more talks. When the dullard buhari amends the constitution to scrap the minister of state and save cost, then we evaluate the change and give plaudits where applicable and cain if necessary.

It's so simple that even apes will understand, but because you are given to hypocrisy and sycophancy, you are unable to grasp it. It must be really said being you!

Gbawe:


You clearly have comprehension issues. Where did I talk of the number of Ministers? I made it clear OBJ shrunk federal Ministries for the purpose of reducing cost while GEJ increased them to increase cost considerably as several authoritative studies concluded. Furthermore, my consistent argument remains that Buhari can move, through a constitutional amendment, to achieve what he seeks because the law is not designed to be an impediment to man.

It is folks like you that seem to assume so because you live in a Country where crooks deliberately hide behind the constitution to explain why our recurrent expenditure is above 70% of total budget while it is less than 10% in many developed Nation. My friend, the way we speak send signals to our leaders. Continuing to accept and defend their excuses gives them the green light to continue stealing. Buhari sand the APC should move to achieve the constitutional amendments that will make possible every measure to cut cost so that capital spending can be augmented massively at the expense of recurrent expenditure.

The point is that PDP presidents already varied nomenclature and Ministerial hierarchy dubiously , even swapping between substantive ministerial appointees for state positions, to get what they want. Do you then think it is so hard or impossible , if a determined President with the political will, wishes to pursue an amendment to do away with Minister of State especially when this is what Nigerians, i.e those with the power, really want? Better accept that things will "change" under Buhari because Nigerians voted for him to bring "change".

Maybe I should followed PointB advice, but let's do this simple exercise, shall we? It is not about writing long epistle (your stock in trade)

This is what you wrote, OBJ managed to successfully reduce the size of federal ministries to 16, from 22, only for GEJ to come in and then massively augment them to 42

Maybe I have comprehension problem, but what you wrote is that GEJ increased the number of federal ministries from 16 to 42... my question, please, can you name the 42 ministries? If you say that OBJ reduced the size of federal ministries to 16, did he also have 16 ministers?

You keep confusing yourself with the number of ministers and number ministries.

Gbawe:


Mumu, and what have you done by posting twice? I really wish dullards like you would stop quoting me and remain in your romance section. If you don't understand what some write here then stay in your Nollywood section of NL where you can talk about Tonto Dike's underwear.

I will hope that soon, you will get to be more civilized in ur use of invectives.
This particular constitution wasn't created by the PDP, it was in place before the advent of PDP, so I will tell you that you shouldn't attribute the waste in the system to pPD. That's the system they met on ground and the APC is also faced with it now.
The problem we have aside corruption is mainly the faulty system of governance placed on us by this particular constitution,and we are looking forward to see how the APC will act to correct the wrongs. We are yet to see that in areas like Federal character,zoning,bicameral legislatures,true federalism and citizenship.
These laws are not what you wish away no matter how good intentioned you are,just as its not GMB's fight alone, it takes the whole federation to amend these systems.
Why I said you wasted the pages was that
1. You attributed the faulty system to PDP
2. You saw the people citing the constitutional provisions as enemies(we are just reminding us of the huddles before us)
3. You think its a problem that GMB can solve just if he wants to

Lessen on the slur words. Its fast becoming ur patent

TopHand:

pls try and listen to yourself, how do u think? so does the USA have a ministry 4 every one of their states, or is that how europe operate, try and think constructively, so every state must have a minister? doing what job? r there not other positions/jobs available in the govt which can satisfied the need 4 a federal character? from yur words it shows that u r a young inexperienced man bred by a system which believes that it should b spoon fed and given entitlements which it has not labored 4, do not b a symptom of a legacy of waste and squander, do not call others clueless directionless and full of false promises yet on the other hand u advocate wasting money to run ghost ministries, young man pls think in terms of productiveness, self dependance, wealth creation and efficiency.

Sir/ma, there's actually a constitutional provision requiring the appointment of ministers from each state. I know it's a ridiculous provision, but it has to be repealed before any reduction in the size of govt can be implemented.

PointB:



This didirin talk about perception, even when I go by the monica "PointB"? Do I look one worried about how I'm perceived in cyberspace? I left that for idi/ots like you who have no other life than in cyberspace!

You keep talking nonsense, because your grasp of the issue at stake is very weak. For the avoidance of doubt, talk is very cheap, and that's what morons like you do all day - talk, talk, and more talk!

Intelligent folks who understand the matter are saying, let us see 'action.' We would buy into you myopic suggestion of applauding talks, talks, and more talks. When the dullard buhari amends the constitution to scrap the minister of state and save cost, then we evaluate the change and give plaudits where applicable and cain if necessary.

It's so simple that even apes will understand, but because you are given to hypocrisy and sycophancy, you are unable to grasp it. It must be really said being you!

The funny thing is that Lai Mohammed denied the talk of scraping or merging ministries and MDAs, yet some folks are already up in arms with their sycophancy. Let APC start the issue of constitution amendment in the house, while they are at it, reduce the cost salary and allowance of the executives and legislators, then we will know how serious they are. Talk is always and ever cheap. They came in through propaganda and want to govern with propaganda!