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Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by sheymoni(m): 3:31pm On Apr 21, 2015
They'll remain in court till 2019
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Nobody: 3:34pm On Apr 21, 2015
No Case na... Them done comot the result from were dem hide am
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by abbacar: 3:53pm On Apr 21, 2015
Mynd44:
If the judge declares that he should not have contested, they can appeal and this will drag all the way to the supreme court while he remains the president
WRONG......if declared ineligible to contest...gej becomes prezident elect...
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Nobody: 4:13pm On Apr 21, 2015
WinsomeX:
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/03/buhari-disqualification-suits-postponed-to-april-22/

Tomorrow, the courts shall begin hearing on the Buhari certificate eligibility suit. Now that he is president elect and the army might have finally found his certificate, what are the possible outcomes of tomorrow judgement?

I hope I can get the best analysis from both APC supporters and antagonists on this thread.
"ABUJA – Justice Adeniyi Ademola Wednesday morning put paid to speculations that the All Progressives Congress, APC, presidential candidate, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari might be disqualified from participating in Saturday’s election when he adjourned hearing in the 10 separate suits [/b]seeking to bar the APC candidate till April 22 and 23, about a month after the presidential election"


[b] . . . . . . . .so the case has not even been heard and you guys are bothering yourselves . . . . . . . . . . . .and we have about a month to May 29? . . . . . . . . . .an exercise in futility
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Nobody: 4:16pm On Apr 21, 2015
abbacar:
WRONG......if declared ineligible to contest...gej becomes prezident elect...
. . . . . . . .it will be appealed at the appeal court/supreme court and status quo maintained . . . . . . . .meaning; Buhari will be considered as having the required qualifications until stated otherwise by the Supreme court
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Mynd44(mod): 4:40pm On Apr 21, 2015
abbacar:
WRONG......if declared ineligible to contest...gej becomes prezident elect...
Okay. Stay there
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by onyenro(m): 4:41pm On Apr 21, 2015
SLIDEwaxie:
this is English language:

The suitbwas to disqualify him to run, but he has ran and won, the suit against him is baseless and useless.

Besides, the law didn't say a runner must have ssce, it sply said ssce is the minimum requirement. What if he had a maximum one? grin
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Olufemiolaolu(m): 4:42pm On Apr 21, 2015
Its a dead case already. Who will testify against Buhari? is it d military or who?
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by abbacar: 5:07pm On Apr 21, 2015
torkaka:
. . . . . . . .it will be appealed at the appeal court/supreme court and status quo maintained . . . . . . . .meaning; Buhari will be considered as having the required qualifications until stated otherwise by the Supreme court
and who will b ur president during d court trials.....
remember no vacancy in government
..
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Nobody: 5:12pm On Apr 21, 2015
abbacar:
and who will b ur president during d court trials.....
remember no vacancy in government
..
. . . . . . . . .please don't get offended, what's your level of education? undecided. . . . . . . . . .I need to know where I am channelling my knowledge
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by abduljabbar4(m): 5:22pm On Apr 21, 2015
These useless cases are still alive? Let's wait and see.
The military has found his certificate so he didn't lie under an oath.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by abbacar: 5:31pm On Apr 21, 2015
torkaka:
. . . . . . . . .please don't get offended, what's your level of education? undecided. . . . . . . . . .I need to know where I am channelling my knowledge
hahaha......listen its simply
buhari when disqualified would go to court to appeal the judgement.....gej being 2nd runner up would be put in light to b president elect....no attorney general will swear in buhari come may 29 wen he is disqualified tomorrow...a court ruling says u can not participate in dis competition because u do not meet the requirement......in the sporting world wen an athlect is found guilty of drug use even if he has a gold medal it automatically goes to d 2nd runner up and so on....
its either buhari /apc go to court to stall the swearing in of president gej come may 29 (which i expect) then an interim government is formed after the constitutionally permitted time for a president to overstay his office has elapsed...or they rest...
ps..dont channel ur one sided knowledge anyway especially towards me.....ur ignorance baffles me...
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Code213: 5:31pm On Apr 21, 2015
abbacar:
WRONG......if declared ineligible to contest...gej becomes prezident elect...
Ignorance is a disease!!! If Buhari is disqualified, Osinbajo will be sworn in as President!!

Go and get a copy of the constitution and cure your disease!!!!


#By the way, Buhari will be your President come May29, 2015. You better get used to it!!! tongue
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Nobody: 5:42pm On Apr 21, 2015
abbacar:
hahaha......listen its simply
buhari when disqualified would go to court to appeal the judgement.....gej being 2nd runner up would be put in light to b president elect....no attorney general will swear in buhari come may 29 wen he is disqualified tomorrow...a court ruling says u can not participate in dis competition because u do not meet the requirement......in the sporting world wen an athlect is found guilty of drug use even if he has a gold medal it automatically goes to d 2nd runner up and so on....
its either buhari /apc go to court to stall the swearing in of president gej come may 29 (which i expect) then an interim government is formed after the constitutionally permitted time for a president to overstay his office has elapsed...or they rest...
ps..dont channel ur one sided knowledge anyway especially towards me.....ur ignorance baffles me...

. . . . . . .I need to know your level of education . . . . . . . . .you are making my 5 year old nephew look bad grin grin
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by cyberguy72(m): 5:44pm On Apr 21, 2015
Code213:
Ignorance is a disease!!! If Buhari is disqualified, Osinbajo will be sworn in as President!!

Go and get a copy of the constitution and cure your disease!!!!


#By the way, Buhari will be your President come May29, 2015. You better get used to it!!! tongue
He iz right oooo.TRUTH IZ BITTER
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by abbacar: 5:52pm On Apr 21, 2015
Code213:
Ignorance is a disease!!! If Buhari is disqualified, Osinbajo will be sworn in as President!!

Go and get a copy of the constitution and cure your disease!!!!


#By the way, Buhari will be your President come May29, 2015. You better get used to it!!! tongue
he who does not know and does know he does not know and does not want to know is a.fool.....
please right now you are ignorant, please listen and learn so u are not called a fool.
first of all....am indifferent of who bcomes our president .....as for me it like d parable of old wine in new sack...is buhari and jonathan nigerians best mind? the answer is no
secondly.... the constitution recognise the position of vice president and not vice president elect.....let take it from the begining....
who bought presidential ticket of apc ? buhari or both of them....u know the answer..it buhari
osibanjo's.vice.presidency takes effect after swearing in of his principal....where he too take an out of office with alligance to the office of the president.....the vp can easy be sacked wen his principal is tired of him....and prove no alligance to him....eg enugu state governor and his deputy who was removed from office over poultry...
osibanjo will not be president when his principal is disqualified before swearing in...
if u say the constitution permits it please enlighten me i dont want to b ignorant but if not learn from this....indeed ignorance is a sin not justa disease.....stop commiting sin.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Code213: 5:59pm On Apr 21, 2015
abbacar:
he who does not know and does know he does not know and does not want to know is a.fool.....
please right now you are ignorant, please listen and learn so u are not called a fool.
first of all....am indifferent of who bcomes our president .....as for me it like d parable of old wine in new sack...is buhari and jonathan nigerians best mind? the answer is no
secondly.... the constitution recognise the position of vice president and not vice president elect.....let take it from the begining....
who bought presidential ticket of apc ? buhari or both of them....u know the answer..it buhari
osibanjo's.vice.presidency takes effect after swearing in of his principal....where he too take an out of office with alligance to the office of the president.....the vp can easy be sacked wen his principal is tired of him....and prove no alligance to him....eg enugu state governor and his deputy who was removed from office over poultry...
osibanjo will not be president when his principal is disqualified before swearing in...
if u say the constitution permits it please enlighten me i dont want to b ignorant but if not learn from this....indeed ignorance is a sin not justa disease.....stop commiting sin.
idiota!!! i would have expected that you pick up the constitution first before replying me. but since you didn't, i guess it is my duty to educate you #humanitarian service

Section 136. (1) If a person duly elected as President dies before taking and subscribing the Oath of Allegiance and oath of office, or is for any reason whatsoever unable to be sworn in, the person elected with him as Vice-President shall be sworn in as President and he shall nominate a new Vice-President who shall be appointed by the President with the approval by a simple majority of the National Assembly at a joint sitting.
(2) Where the persons duly elected as President and Vice President die or are unable for any reason whatsoever to assume office before the inauguration of the National Assembly, the Independent National Electoral Commission shall immediately conduct an election for a President and the Vice-President.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Armaggedon: 6:08pm On Apr 21, 2015
Mynd44:
If the judge declares that he should not have contested, they can appeal and this will drag all the way to the supreme court while he remains the president
I think if the court finds him ineligible, it will be followed by a perpetual injunction restraining him from being sworn in, unless he obtains a stay of execution before appealing.
The court can even find him ineligible after swearing in.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Buonsenso: 6:10pm On Apr 21, 2015
The framers of the Constitution are not stupid

They have it so that if an incumbent lost election as Jonathan did, there is no incentive to get him back through the back door. Those who lose power as incumbents will just assassinate their opponents and return to power.

If anything happens to Buhari, Osinbajo takes over.
QED

Finally the odds of buhari and Osinbajo been incapacitated at the same time is very very low..it will be the worst series of ill luck for that to happen.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by ShowYourCertificate: 6:13pm On Apr 21, 2015
WinsomeX:
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/03/buhari-disqualification-suits-postponed-to-april-22/

Tomorrow, the courts shall begin hearing on the Buhari certificate eligibility suit. Now that he is president elect and the army might have finally found his certificate, what are the possible outcomes of tomorrow judgement?

I hope I can get the best analysis from both APC supporters and antagonists on this thread.
Point of correction, the army never said they've seen Buhari's certificate.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by WinsomeX(op): 6:15pm On Apr 21, 2015
INTERPRETING THE CONSTITUTION WITH REGARDS TO BUHARI'S CERTIFICATE

Over the last few weeks , the news media, including social media platforms , have been inundated with the controversy over whether or not former military Head of States and presidential candidate of All Progressive Congress, General Muhammadu Buhari possesses the minimum educational qualification to run for the office of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria in the coming February 14 general elections . LAW EDITOR , Adam Adedimeji explains certain provisions of the constitution many commentators have tried to close their eyes to:

“A person shall be qualified for election to the Office of President if: ( a) He is a citizen of Nigeria by birth ; ( b ) He has attained the
age of forty years; ( c ) He is a member of a political party and is sponsored by that
political party; and ( d) He has been educated up to at least SCHOOL CERTIFICATE LEVEL OR ITS EQUIVALENT ( emphasis mine) .” – Section 131 of the 1999 constitution.


The above provision under Section 131, paragraph ( a ) – ( d) of the 1999 constitution of Nigeria is what summarises conditions to be fulfilled by an aspirant to the position of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

The provision however has in the last few weeks become the most popularly cited
section of the Nigerian constitution as well as a source of controversy. Different interpretations are therefore been given to the particular section either by way of misunderstanding , misrepresentation, misinterpretation or all of the above among political parties as well as its members in order to outdo one another in the fight for votes during the February 14 general elections.

This writer however curiously noticed that most commentators on the ‘ controversial section’ failed to observe that “School Certificate level” as stated by the constitution is unclassified. Most of them only assumed it to be Secondary Leaving
Certificate without bothering to find out what the constitution framers meant since it could also have meant Primary School Leaving Certificate.

Although it is said that all is fair in a contest , the fact that a constitutional provision is in place and its interpretation is to certain extent unambiguous, makes this particular altercations, irrespective of political nature in it an unfair game.

To fully understand the constitution , one needs to take a cursory look at the
provisions of the constitution under Part IV , Article 318 ( 1) that deals with Interpretation, Citation and Commencement.

This particular part , that is , Part IV of the Constitution , interprets the meanings given by the framers of the constitution in order not to give way for unintended meanings to constitutional provisions as we are now
witnessing in this circumstance .

[b]In Chapter VIII, Part VI of the 1999 Constitution , Section 318 ( 1) gave a lucid interpretation to what the constitution meant by “School Certificate or its equivalent” thus : “School Certificate or its equivalent”
means-
( a) a Secondary School Certificate or its equivalent, or Grade II Teacher ’ s
Certificate, the City and Guilds Certificate ;
or
( b) education up to Secondary School Certificate level; or
( c ) Primary Six School Leaving Certificate or its equivalent and -
( i ) service in the public or private sector in the Federation in any capacity acceptable to the Independent National
Electoral Commission for a minimum of ten years, and
( ii ) attendance at courses and training in such institutions as may be acceptable to the Independent National Electoral Commission for periods totaling up to a minimum of one year, and
( iii ) the ability to read , write , understand and communicate in the English Language to the satisfaction of the Independent National Electoral Commission ; and
( d) any other qualification acceptable by the Independent National Electoral Commission."
In essence , constitutionally , a presidential contestant is eligible even if the only
educational qualification he /she possesses is a mere “Primary Six School Leaving
Certificate” or “the ability to read , write , understand and communicate in the English Language ” or “service in the public or private sector in the Federation in any capacity acceptable to INEC for a minimum of ten years” or “attendance at courses and training in such institutions as may beacceptable to the INEC for periods totaling up to a minimum of one year. ” [/b]


This is the present position of the law . Nigerians are however free to propose its
amendment if there is a general believe that we need to increase qualification standard for would be presidential aspirants in Nigeria .

www.dailyindependentnig.com/2015/01/qualification-election-constitution-really-say/
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Kolade354(m): 6:17pm On Apr 21, 2015
abbacar:
hahaha......listen its simply
buhari when disqualified would go to court to appeal the judgement.....gej being 2nd runner up would be put in light to b president elect....no attorney general will swear in buhari come may 29 wen he is disqualified tomorrow...a court ruling says u can not participate in dis competition because u do not meet the requirement......in the sporting world wen an athlect is found guilty of drug use even if he has a gold medal it automatically goes to d 2nd runner up and so on....
its either buhari /apc go to court to stall the swearing in of president gej come may 29 (which i expect) then an interim government is formed after the constitutionally permitted time for a president to overstay his office has elapsed...or they rest...
ps..dont channel ur one sided knowledge anyway especially towards me.....ur ignorance baffles me...
I still dont know Fools like you still exist expecting Buhari to be Disqualified..........I must see one of your family member to tell them you need to be taken to either Arrow or Yaba Left...........Big Fool.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Kolade354(m): 6:23pm On Apr 21, 2015
I have seen so many fools in Nigeria, when result were trickiling in some southern folks on facebook were still shouting Jonathan is winning forgetting Kano,kastina,sokoto,kaduna,borno,gombe result are still jogging for buhari........After he has won some fools are still hoping the court of law will disqualify him...........Foolishness can be sometimes Hereditary.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by WinsomeX(op): 6:27pm On Apr 21, 2015
ShowYourCertificate:
Point of correction, the army never said they've seen Buhari's certificate.
Point of correction:

I didn't say the army said they have seen Buhari's certificate.

I said Now that he is president elect and the army MIGHT have finally found his certificate.... Look up my post you quoted again.

Notice the MIGHT now capitalized for you to see. I used that word to make room for the possibility for whether or not the army had found the certificate. Since the army have not said they have the certificate. A point I have made earlier.

WinsomeX:
Only one person claimed the certificate was found. Even the army did not admit to it publicly.
Please let's be my circumspect when embark on public correction. Let the corrector be correct first before correcting.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Nobody: 6:32pm On Apr 21, 2015
It's dead on arrival.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by ShowYourCertificate: 6:32pm On Apr 21, 2015
WinsomeX:
Point of correction:

I didn't say the army said they have seen Buhari's certificate. I said Now that he is president elect and the army MIGHT have finally found his certificate...

Notice the MIGHT now capitalized for you to see. I used that word to make room for the possibility for whether or not the army had found the certificate. Since the army have not said they have the certificate. A point I have made earlier.

Please let's be my circumspect when embark on public correction. Let the corrector be correct first before correcting.
You said the army MIGHT have found Buhari's certificate and I corrected you because the army HAS NOT found Buhari's certificate. There's no MIGHT there. Learn how to accept correction when corrected.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Nobody: 6:34pm On Apr 21, 2015
WinsomeX:
Do you think so Mynd44?

The worst case scenario is to declare Buhari ineligible fa and possible to cancel the elections.

Lawyers in the house, help me.
...well,you are on your own.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by Nobody: 6:37pm On Apr 21, 2015
SLIDEwaxie:
this is English language:

The suitbwas to disqualify him to run, but he has ran and won, the suit against him is baseless and useless.

Besides, the law didn't say a runner must have ssce, it sply said ssce is the minimum requirement. What if he had a maximum one? grin
...the constitution does not stipulate SSCE,it states school certificate. This is an ambiguous clause...
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by bnovative(m): 6:50pm On Apr 21, 2015
SLIDEwaxie:
this is English language:

The suitbwas to disqualify him to run, but he has ran and won, the suit against him is baseless and useless.

Besides, the law didn't say a runner must have ssce, it sply said ssce is the minimum requirement. What if he had a maximum one? grin
we are talking about perjury here not elegibility. Buhari had no secondary sch certificate with the military- fact.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by bnovative(m): 6:55pm On Apr 21, 2015
WinsomeX:
INTERPRETING THE CONSTITUTION WITH REGARDS TO BUHARI'S CERTIFICATE

Over the last few weeks , the news media, including social media platforms , have been inundated with the controversy over whether or not former military Head of States and presidential candidate of All Progressive Congress, General Muhammadu Buhari possesses the minimum educational qualification to run for the office of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria in the coming February 14 general elections . LAW EDITOR , Adam Adedimeji explains certain provisions of the constitution many commentators have tried to close their eyes to:

“A person shall be qualified for election to the Office of President if: ( a) He is a citizen of Nigeria by birth ; ( b ) He has attained the
age of forty years; ( c ) He is a member of a political party and is sponsored by that
political party; and ( d) He has been educated up to at least SCHOOL CERTIFICATE LEVEL OR ITS EQUIVALENT ( emphasis mine) .” – Section 131 of the 1999 constitution.


The above provision under Section 131, paragraph ( a ) – ( d) of the 1999 constitution of Nigeria is what summarises conditions to be fulfilled by an aspirant to the position of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

The provision however has in the last few weeks become the most popularly cited
section of the Nigerian constitution as well as a source of controversy. Different interpretations are therefore been given to the particular section either by way of misunderstanding , misrepresentation, misinterpretation or all of the above among political parties as well as its members in order to outdo one another in the fight for votes during the February 14 general elections.

This writer however curiously noticed that most commentators on the ‘ controversial section’ failed to observe that “School Certificate level” as stated by the constitution is unclassified. Most of them only assumed it to be Secondary Leaving
Certificate without bothering to find out what the constitution framers meant since it could also have meant Primary School Leaving Certificate.

Although it is said that all is fair in a contest , the fact that a constitutional provision is in place and its interpretation is to certain extent unambiguous, makes this particular altercations, irrespective of political nature in it an unfair game.

To fully understand the constitution , one needs to take a cursory look at the
provisions of the constitution under Part IV , Article 318 ( 1) that deals with Interpretation, Citation and Commencement.

This particular part , that is , Part IV of the Constitution , interprets the meanings given by the framers of the constitution in order not to give way for unintended meanings to constitutional provisions as we are now
witnessing in this circumstance .

[b]In Chapter VIII, Part VI of the 1999 Constitution , Section 318 ( 1) gave a lucid interpretation to what the constitution meant by “School Certificate or its equivalent” thus : “School Certificate or its equivalent”
means-
( a) a Secondary School Certificate or its equivalent, or Grade II Teacher ’ s
Certificate, the City and Guilds Certificate ;
or
( b) education up to Secondary School Certificate level; or
( c ) Primary Six School Leaving Certificate or its equivalent and -
( i ) service in the public or private sector in the Federation in any capacity acceptable to the Independent National
Electoral Commission for a minimum of ten years, and
( ii ) attendance at courses and training in such institutions as may be acceptable to the Independent National Electoral Commission for periods totaling up to a minimum of one year, and
( iii ) the ability to read , write , understand and communicate in the English Language to the satisfaction of the Independent National Electoral Commission ; and
( d) any other qualification acceptable by the Independent National Electoral Commission."
In essence , constitutionally , a presidential contestant is eligible even if the only
educational qualification he /she possesses is a mere “Primary Six School Leaving
Certificate” or “the ability to read , write , understand and communicate in the English Language ” or “service in the public or private sector in the Federation in any capacity acceptable to INEC for a minimum of ten years” or “attendance at courses and training in such institutions as may beacceptable to the INEC for periods totaling up to a minimum of one year. ” [/b]


This is the present position of the law . Nigerians are however free to propose its
amendment if there is a general believe that we need to increase qualification standard for would be presidential aspirants in Nigeria .

www.dailyindependentnig.com/2015/01/qualification-election-constitution-really-say/
guy we are dealing with a case of perjury, not elegiblity.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by bnovative(m): 6:59pm On Apr 21, 2015
abduljabbar4:
These useless cases are still alive? Let's wait and see.
The military has found his certificate so he didn't lie under an oath.
No. the military never said so. Buhari cert. just like the chibok girls will remain a mystery. The more u look, the less u see.
Re: What Is The Possible Outcome Of Buhari's Certificate Court Judgement Tomorrow by WinsomeX(op): 7:07pm On Apr 21, 2015
ShowYourCertificate:
You said the army MIGHT have found Buhari's certificate and I corrected you because the army HAS NOT found Buhari's certificate. There's no MIGHT there. Learn how to accept correction when corrected.
I will take your correction if there was one.

I am saying there was no need to make such correction BC I NEVER made a statement like the one you are saying I made.

You may want to find out what "MIGHT" as used in my statement means. I will not be speaking on this issue any longer.
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