davien:
Spare me the proselytizing, the question is a simple one...
He killed a lot of lives and by your mythology sent them to heaven/hell...
According to revelation those slain unjustly continue to cry out to "god" for retribution...
Now that he has repented of his wrong doings what becomes of those allegedly in heaven begging "god" for retribution in heaven?

Would they be silenced or answered?...would it be just for your supposed just "god" to refuse them of justice?

My friend you need to come down from that your high horse you're riding! It's people with the kind of mentality you have that wanted to stone to death a woman caught in the act of adultery, and took her to Jesus with their stones in their hands. Thinking Jesus would condemn her also like they did, but unfortunately for them, Jesus simply said "he that is without sin should cast the first stone"

You are here condeming a man for his PAST sins while you yourself have your own PRESENT sins you have not repented of

Before God, all sins are sin and are all equally deadly and deserving of condemnation, that is why God said "the wages of sin is death"!! There is no "big sin" & "small sin" before God, all sins are sin and will lead to hell. If you think because you have not robbed anybody or killed anybody, and as such you are better than Shina Rambo, then i'm sorry for you! Because that lie you told, or that Fornication you committed in the past is still SIN, and before God you are as condemned as Shina Rambo was when he was killing and robbing people in the past.

If you think God's mercy is good for you despite your sins and shortcomings as a human being, then who are you to say it is not good for another sinner. Afterall mercy is part of God's nature and your personal opinions will not change God from being who he is.

davien:
According to the bible(specifically revelation), those that were killed unjustly cry out to "god" for vengeance, does that mean his won't take place and those lives would get no retribution?

Ultimately this would mean "god" wasn't just as it turned a blind eye to those killed then also decided to render mercy to the killer instead on the account of acknowledging his existence only....

Imagine a human court run in this manner, where your crimes are instantly forgiven if you "honour" the judge,would you find such a system just?

Lol, it doesn't exactly work that way.

Idrismusty97:
Yea a very merciful god. Merciful enough not to "interfere" while the robber unleashed mayhem on his victims which sometimes lead to the death of the victims or a very sad loss.

Minding one's business is a complex job in reality.

Jennimma:

Hmmmm

All true

when did you have meeting with God to know that he has forgiven him.I don't know how you people talk when it come to religion? A notorious armed robber that was declared wanted in 80s hide somewhere and now come out to say he is now a pastor.Where has it been since? Likely this may be arrange shina rambo.If not,he should go on national TV and ask for the family of those he killed which are un accountable as the time he was notorious.The law should also prosecute him and ready to face any consequence of what he meet.Shina Rambo,he killed a lot of police and civilians. One good thing is that is good to repent but one can't boldly say God has forgiven him.

tchidi:
You see, a witch can kill you and later repent and make heaven!
Imagine all the lives this man has cut short, but our merciful God still forgave him.
God, you de try o!

Abi o ! This is one reason I pray fall and die prayer. Any witch that wants to kill me before my God's appointed time; what are you waiting for, Die! Die!! Die!!! by fire... They may end up destroying somebody only to turn to our merciful God in repentance. God is very mysterious...

One day lex steele sef go enter pulpit dey preach...haha

akoaki:


Who has confirmed to us that God forgave him. The bible says that God frowns at the crime of murder. It is the arrogantly wicked religious leaders that made us understand that whenever you ask for forgiviness , it is automatically granted. Where is restitution ?
The reason why a person will commit a heinous crime and come back later as a saint is because the nigerian system is very weak and religion has taken over the common sense of many.

As long as he has genuinely repented, he stands before God sinless. There is no magnitude of sin that the blood of Jesus cannot atone. Whosoever repented genuinely will surely be forgiven by God. Just like that cos the blood of Jesus has paid the price

nelsonoba:


My friend you need to come down from that your high horse you're riding! It's people with the kind of mentality you have that wanted to stone to death a woman caught in the act of adultery, and took her to Jesus with their stones in their hands. Thinking Jesus would condemn her also like they did, but unfortunately for them, Jesus simply said "he that is without sin should cast the first stone"

You are here condeming a man for his PAST sins while you yourself have your own PRESENT sins you have not repented of

Before God, all sins are sin and are all equally deadly and deserving of condemnation, that is why God said "the wages of sin is death"!! There is no "big sin" & "small sin" before God, all sins are sin and will lead to hell. If you think because you have not robbed anybody or killed anybody, and as such you are better than Shina Rambo, then i'm sorry for you! Because that lie you told, or that Fornication you committed in the past is still SIN, and before God you are as condemned as Shina Rambo was when he was killing and robbing people in the past.

If you think God's mercy is good for you despite your sins and shortcomings as a human being, then who are you to say it is not good for another sinner. Afterall mercy is part of God's nature and your personal opinions will not change God from being who he is.

wow, just wow....lol

I'm not a Christian so you can drop the "if you think god..." and I'm not among the lot of "follow the leader" so your biblical story is out of place for me...

You could either tell me you don't know about the question I asked, ignore or just tell me the answer if you have one...

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Who told you he is assured of heaven?

Who told you good people who don't accept Christ will go to hell?[/quote]@bolded- If you rejects Christ, you're condemned already

2 Coritians 5:17 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. Old things are passed away, behold all things are become new" Besides, the bible says the blood of Jesus (redemption) speaketh better things than the blood of Abel (Vegeance)

davien:
According to the bible(specifically revelation), those that were killed unjustly cry out to "god" for vengeance, does that mean his won't take place and those lives would get no retribution?

Ultimately this would mean "god" wasn't just as it turned a blind eye to those killed then also decided to render mercy to the killer instead on the account of acknowledging his existence only....

Imagine a human court run in this manner, where your crimes are instantly forgiven if you "honour" the judge,would you find such a system just?

Lilimax:
As long as he has genuinely repented, he stands before God sinless. There is no magnitude of sin that the blood of Jesus cannot atone. Whosoever repented genuinely will surely be forgiven by God. Just like that cos the blood of Jesus has paid the price

Fallacy. That is why the politicians and pastors find it easy to deceive and manipulate Nigerians.

jnrbayano:
My own is, has he been tried for those crimes he committed?

If he did repent let him turn himself over to face charges he violated so that his repentance would be total.

which charges?? The Nigerian Police doesn't keep records.....what are u going to charge him for? And how are we sure that he is shina rambo??

davien:
According to the bible(specifically revelation), those that were killed unjustly cry out to "god" for vengeance, does that mean his won't take place and those lives would get no retribution?

Ultimately this would mean "god" wasn't just as it turned a blind eye to those killed then also decided to render mercy to the killer instead on the account of acknowledging his existence only....

Imagine a human court run in this manner, where your crimes are instantly forgiven if you "honour" the judge,would you find such a system just?

You probably thought you are being logical ... see God is GOD and not Man. Go and read Isaiah 55: 6 - 9.

italo:


My question was "who told you?"

It's possible you've been listening to the wrong people.

Eh, all the pastors in Nigeria and it's in the holy book. I don't want to be seen as being derogatory so i'll leave it as holy book.

bushdoc9919:


Tough question....

And I will give you the tough answer.....

We all are sinners....and God regards every sin as equal.So...a little white lie is just as bad as stealing and corruption.(No stealing isn't corruption jokes here please. Thank you.).

(And in my experience I have never met a good and moral person. Even I thought I was one...until I became a Christian.).

But...if we admit that we cannot be good on our own...and ask God for help...he always accepts our request.

That is why the bad guy who committed sins and then repents at the last minute goes to heaven...while the good moral man does not...because good moral man did not see that he does need help to be better than what he is...divine help.The bad guy was humble enough to see that he needed help.

I myself was a good an moral person before I became s Christian...and I became a Christian because I realized that no matter how hard i tried...I could never be good enough to meet God's standard. But happily...God knows that...which is why He sent his son to bridge the gap.

It is a tough answer....sorry about that.

I don't think so. A murderer that killed thousands and put several families in sorrow
All sin can not be equal. So if someone steals meat from the supermarket and on the way home an okada rider knocks him down, he dies, he goes to hell while someone that killed 500 people repents and goes to heaven
I no gree. Someone needs to give me a tougher answer

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So Murderers, Child abusers, rapists will make heaven while people who live a pure life but simply didn't accept Christ will go to Hell

Religion is a fraud, it's a serious business venture.

EbolaParasite:


So Murderers, Child abusers, rapists will make heaven while people who live a pure life but simply didn't accept Christ will go to Hell

Good point.

bushdoc9919:

Slight correction there....

If you are in church to be ''promoted''...then you better reconsider your faith.Church is not for title acquisition....it is for one to learn to get closer to God....not to be called Pastor, Deacon, Overseer, Bishop,Rev, and Teacher.

(I am a church worker at my church...by the way....but that is not my main reason for coming there.

who doesn't need appreciation and recognition in this life?

Again....a criminal has no good news to share ? What about Paul? And even Peter?

Which goodnews does he have to share...is the story of his barbaric adventures a goodnews to you?
Sorry,it might only end up terrorizing the congregation the more...and if I was among the crowd, i wouldn't mind hurling the bible at him....

Christians are not good people, they are bad people who admit they are bad and ask God to change them.

I won't admit to that...christians can only be bad people when they allow crooks and notorious criminals teach them about christ...at the end it all equals to the blind,deaf,dumb and crippled leading the blind...Where would they go to?

NB forgiveness is good no doubt,but there are degree of things you don't forgive easily...that would make sure the person doesn't forget his crime easily and will continue to live in remorse...but if you forgive him easily,very soon he might start flexing muscles

all the things he swallowed to become a strong man who has taken them away from his stomach?if truly he is pastor let him locate the mantle and let the mantle examine him because night is one and only at night that we know who is who

Lilimax:
As long as he has genuinely repented, he stands before God sinless. There is no magnitude of sin that the blood of Jesus cannot atone. Whosoever repented genuinely will surely be forgiven by God. Just like that cos the blood of Jesus has paid the price

ah wee kee your husby then repent

herald9: [/s]

Bla bla bla bla black
How do you know God has forgiven him?
Because you feel so?

If you learnt that a person that killed your dad and stole your school fees is now a pastor, would you let him lay hands on you?

Well in that case, I'll have to lay my hands on him first...

Ps. Why don't u use your font anymore?

davien:
According to the bible(specifically revelation), those that were killed unjustly cry out to "god" for vengeance, does that mean his won't take place and those lives would get no retribution?

Ultimately this would mean "god" wasn't just as it turned a blind eye to those killed then also decided to render mercy to the killer instead on the account of acknowledging his existence only....

Imagine a human court run in this manner, where your crimes are instantly forgiven if you "honour" the judge,would you find such a system just?

Don't write God's name with small letter again

He should be arrested,prosecuted and convicted.
Being a pastor doesn't mean you should not suffer for the sins you've commited.

EbolaParasite:


So Murderers, Child abusers, rapists will make heaven while people who live a pure life but simply didn't accept Christ will go to Hell

Yeah! Child abusers, rapists etc will make heaven provided they have repented and turn away from their sin. You that thought you are living a pure life outside Christ is a fallacy cos our righteousness is like a filthy rag before God. Our righteousness should be of Christ for it to be meaningful before God . Shalom!

herald9:

ah wee kee your husby then repent

huh? Touch not the anointed of God and do God's prophet no harm.

My prayer for him is that he should meet Jesus Christ, because it will help him more to reposition his life well for God to use him, to join the league of pastors in this nation eh!

May God help us all sha

Still a thief, only armed with the bible as well as a load of lies and deceit.

Lilimax:
Yeah! Child abusers, rapists etc will make heaven provided they have repented and turn away from their sin. You that thought you are living a pure life outside Christ is a fallacy cos our righteousness is like a filthy rag before God. Our righteousness should be of Christ for it to be meaningful before God . Shalom!

I respectfully disagree. If i live a good and moral life, i will make heaven whether or not i accept Christ. If your statement is true, then all our ancestors that never knew Christ simply because they had no contact with the white man are all in Hell? I disagree.

FAJFARM:


Don't write God's name with small letter again

This doctrine of fear and hypricosy that has been imposed on my brethren. Na wa oo....there is absolutely nothing wrong with using upper or lower case. Its just text. Its the idea and message that matters

Slickest:
.....And he still bears shina rambo? Well, what happened 2d law? Has he been prosecuted 4his past crimes?

No mind am jare the guy is a liar, do you know how many police officer shina Rambo killed in 1993, so police will come leave am because he turned pastor. Shina Rambo was killed in 1995 in a shotout with police. I remember everyone was relieve. Even if he miraculously came back to life, he will be in his 60s. The real Rambo once jacked my father's E280 Benz, he pistol whip my uncle for begging. He was in his 40s in 1993. So how him come look this Young now I no understand.