raumdeuter:


Gerrard and others only shined because Suarez carried them. When SUarez left, the whole team became wankk

That's the point.
If a clinical and competent striker was used to replace Suarez the team wouldn't have declined and exacerbated.

saying they shined because of Suarez is an ignorant blooper.
Who passed the balls to Suarez to score and who provided him with assists?
was it Luis Suarez' twin brother?

Darkrebel666:
who be scholes?
wetin that one sabi ?

Darkrebel666:


Please keep quiet.

I said there were two types of midfielders and i put Scholes in the same category as Pirlo ...


if you can't read then I don't know what to say to you.

keeping quiet would've earned you respect instead of this megedefede you just yarn. And stop trying to claim you were joking cos you were not.

coded01 should take you to your thread before you ask who Xavi is?

sinizia:


Rooney is crap and everyone knows this!! Out and out doesn't matter. How come you rate this dude as the best yet Cantona that you rate lower than Rooney is rated higher than Rooney among Man Utd fans and EPL judges? What does that tell you? In 5 season, Cantona reached a legendary status. Can Rooney match that in his first 5 seasons when he's scoring 12 goals?

Rooney beats Cantona in goals and Assists. Rooney is 1000 times better than Cantona.

Rooney and Cantona played same attacking midfield yet Cantona never scored up to 19 goals even in 34 league games a season. Rooney has only played 34 games or more, twice in his career.

Rooney also beat Tevez in goals+assists. Rooney is number 10 and Tevez 9. Judging them on goals alone is criminal. You guys are wayo.

Rooney has been been world best striker in Ballon'dor award. Something Aguero, Tevez, Suarez, are still dreaming of.

Rooney is the best number 10 of his generation.




















This argument continue tomorrow. I am working heavily tonight. I will be back tomorrow hopefully.

Darkrebel666:


That's the point.
If a clinical and competent striker was used to replace Suarez the team wouldn't have declined and exacerbated.

saying they shined because of Suarez is an ignorant blooper.
Who passed the balls to Suarez to score and who provided him with assists?
was it Luis Suarez' twin brother?

Suarez was there and they were finishing midtable for years.

Guy pls leave these people, this argument will last the whole summer as it has been in the past two summers I have been on this thread. Then next season it will continue. These people think they are more sensible than the men at Old Trafford who offered Rooney deal to be 250k, then 300k. They are more tacttical than Gaal who made Rooney captain.

Don't bother yourself too much because it usually a long argument which requires stamina and patience. Distractions and heavy time consumption.

World best strikers in the past 5 years according to Ballondor include
Ibrahimovic
Rooney
Messi
Ronaldo
Falcao

Anyone in this elite group is qualified to earn 300k.


Last year this time, people here said Rooney should be dropped from England team for Sterling, Sturridge and Lambert.

2 months later, Rooney went on to be the captain of three lions haven had a hand in England only 2 goals in the world cup. England has won 100% of their compectitive matches since Rooney became captain, won frendly matches except the draw in Italy. Now I can't see Lambert or Lallana again. All the enemies always bringing new people to try and negative mark Rooney. This shows not many players have his consistency. Ukwu!

Rooney has outlived Crouch, Carol, Bent, Defoe, just to mention a few in the last 4 years. When taken back, the list can go to ten forwards- Forwards because Rooney was used as a number 10. Lambert, may be Sterling sef go soon join.

Rooney as England captain has scored plenty goals that he's about to be England all time top scorer.
Yori Yori.

See you tomorrow.

elampiro:


Rooney beats Cantona in goals and Assists. Rooney is 1000 times better than Cantona.

Rooney and Cantona played same attacking midfield yet Cantona never scored up to 19 goals even in 34 league games a season. Rooney has never had 34 league games.

Rooney also beat Tevez in goals+assists. Rooney is number 10 and Tevez 9. Judging them on goals alone is criminal. You guys are wayo.

Rooney has been been world best striker in Ballon'dor award. Something Aguero, Tevez, Suarez, are still dreaming of.

Rooney is the best number 10 of his generation.




















This argument continue tomorrow. I am working heavily tonight. I will be back tomorrow hopefully.

Rooney best 10 0f his generation? What brand of dog shi*t are you smoking? In your other dumb post you named Rooney as a striker along with Zlatan, etc., yet here you are calling him a 10? are you high on wet feacal matter?

Jose has killed us sha.

"This is a football pitch with two goals, one ball, but there is one team that would like to play without goals," he said, of the plain red-shirted team.

"That team plays really well and the ball goes and goes and goes and the quality of the ball possession is really beautiful, but no goals.

"And they ask the international board of FIFA to play like this, but they were told that it was not possible, that the bigger percentage of ball possession doesn't win matches and they were not champions.

"After that there was another team (wearing sky blue shirts) that were less radical and they asked to play only with one goal.

"They were fantastic and they scored a lot of goals and the goals were coming from every position and they score and they score and they score, but they never conceded goals, because no goal. Again, the international board told them 'I'm sorry, you can't be champions because football is with two goals'.

"The third team (red shirts, white sleeves) was almost there, because they wanted to play with two goals.

"They were scoring some, they were also conceding some. They were fantastic. They scored really beautiful goals, they concede some goals too and they were almost there.

"But they asked the international board to play only between January and April. And they told 'no chance, no chance'.

"You have to play between August and May, so they couldn't be champions.

"Finally come another team (blue shirts). They wanted to play with the normal rules and they know that to win matches they had to score one more goal than the opponent.

"How can you do this? By scoring a lot of goals or not conceding and scoring one.

"And they did it both ways. Scoring a lot, conceding some. Scoring one goal and conceding no goals.

"That was the option and lots of goals were conceding, they played from August till May and sometimes they brought the bus.

"This is a football pitch with two goals, one ball, but there is one team that would like to play without goals," he said, of the plain red-shirted team.

"That team plays really well and the ball goes and goes and goes and the quality of the ball possession is really beautiful, but no goals.

"And they ask the international board of FIFA to play like this, but they were told that it was not possible, that the bigger percentage of ball possession doesn't win matches and they were not champions.

mourinho is spot on with that analysis....
what shall it profit a club that has 80% possession and cannot score a goal?

someone should forward this to LVG. he needs quality strikers that can run behind defence line next season.

sinizia:



Rooney best 10 0f his generation? What brand of dog shi*t are you smoking? In your other dumb post you named Rooney as a striker along with Zlatan, etc., yet here you are calling him a 10? are you high on wet feacal matter?

Rooney played the number 9 that season 2009.10 season and he was named the best 9 in the world in the ballon d'or.

Rooney Challenged Ferguson to play him in the number 9, and SAF tried him, then he delivered. Rooney had not been so enthrusted with the 9 in any season, the very first time he scored 26 goals. He gave us our first ever win in San Siro and our only win there till date.

elampiro:


Rooney played the number 9 that season 2009.10 season and he was named the best 9 in the world in the ballon d'or.

Rooney Challenged Ferguson to play him in the number 9, and SAF tried him, then he delivered. Rooney had not been so enthrusted with the 9 in any season, the very first time he scored 26 goals. He gave us our first ever win in San Siro and our only win there till date.

Rooney best 10 of his generation? Are you not ashamed spewing this baloney?

sinizia:


Rooney best 10 of his generation? Are you not ashamed spewing this baloney?

Are you not ashamed disputing facts? Show me any 10 that has been so productive with goals+assists?

Show me any 10 who was given the 9 role and instantly became the best 9 in the world.

Rooney told SAF 'pls buy Ozil and I will keep banging in goals playing in front' But SAF always prefers using Rooney's energy in the attacking midfield and his defensive quality to stall oppositions build up.

Mourinho indirectly telling Man United to create more clear cut chances. More like find your strikers more often with in dangerous places, more CCC in the box. Stop playing it slowly and holding it too long in midfield because the goal post is not there- in midfield. Lol

chrisley024:
keeping quiet would've earned you respect instead of this megedefede you just yarn. And stop trying to claim you were joking cos you were not.

coded01 should take you to your thread before you ask who Xavi is?

Honestly, I am disappointed that anyone is talking about "who scholes is?"

Forget hating oh, scholes is a midfield maestro in his time...

Darkrebel666:


You didn't understand me.


learn to read, digest and comprehend what someone says before hastily replying.
I put Scholes in the same league as Andrea Pirlo. what does that tell you?

guy learn to accept where you goofed instead of acting like you know what you're saying.
scholes being in the same category as Pirlo (whatever that means) has nothing to do with the overall argument.
this your misplaced humor just gives you away as a nitwit.
I really shouldnt be responding to someone who thinks Rooney would shine at Liverpool because of Gerrard and coutinho.
its unfortunate that I.di.ots choose this thread to display their folly the most.

Darkrebel666:


That's the point.
If a clinical and competent striker was used to replace Suarez the team wouldn't have declined and exacerbated.

saying they shined because of Suarez is an ignorant blooper.
Who passed the balls to Suarez to score and who provided him with assists?
was it Luis Suarez' twin brother?

Suarez had the highest goal and assist the last season he left...gerrad cost them that league that year..his back pass against chelsea and hull city cost them the league suarez hustle for himself,gerrad no even come out top5 assist player that years..suarez had 31 league goals why sturriedge had 24 league goals...gerrad was no where to be found near any achievment that year...

The Rooney criticism is not fair . For crying out loud,dude has only been an out and out striker for us for just 2 seasons or so in his career. I still believe Wazza is top-notch when played in his preffered position.

elampiro:


Are you not ashamed disputing facts? Show me any 10 that has been so productive with goals+assists?

Show me any 10 who was given the 9 role and instantly became the best 9 in the world.

Rooney told SAF 'pls buy Ozil and I will keep banging in goals playing in front' But SAF always prefers using Rooney's energy in the attacking midfield and his defensive quality to stall oppositions build up.

This sort of baloney you keep spewing can only occur when someone starts adding methamphetamine and crack cocàin to his burgeoning CV of hard drugs. I've told you stick to Kenyan weed, but you wouldn't listen.

Rooney is a 10 yet every football sites keeps calling him a striker. He's a 10 yet when top 'whatever' EPL strikers of all time are mentioned, he keeps coming up in their lists. He's a 10 yet since Scholes left, England has this so-called "best 10 of his generation" and keeps him playing as a striker and even as a winger in the last WC in Brazil, while the likes of Gerrard and Lampard has been under-performing as a 10 for England all these years. The next nonsense to come out from your orifice or finger will be that Scholes was a winger while Rooney was playing for 11 years in Man Utd. SMDH!! Elampawa you are right, you win. I'm not going to debate this BS with you. It's getting irritating.

sinizia:


This sort of baloney you keep spewing can only occur when someone starts adding methamphetamine and crack cocàin to his burgeoning CV of hard drugs. I've told you stick to Kenyan weed, but you wouldn't listen.

Rooney is a 10 yet every football sites keeps calling him a striker. He's a 10 yet when top 'whatever' EPL strikers of all time are mentioned, he keeps coming up in their lists. He's a 10 yet since Scholes left, England has this so-called "best 10 of his generation" and keeps him playing as a striker and even as a winger in the last WC in Brazil, while the likes of Gerrard and Lampard has been under-performing as a 10 for England all these years. The next nonsense to come out from your orifice or finger will be that Scholes was a winger while Rooney was playing for 11 years in Man Utd. SMDH!! Elampawa you are right, you win. I'm not going to debate this BS with you. It's getting irritating.

Same way Manchester United official website stated Cantona as a striker, Wikepedia has Cantona as a striker, etc.

We all know both were number 10. Rooney has only led the line- number 9 in just one season 2009.10. In 2011/12 he played behind Chicharito and Welbeck, it's clear from Zonal Marking match days post match analysis and his midfield stats.

Rooney has about 89 Assists in the PREMIER LEAGUE alone, which makes him probably the most productive players in EPL history on goals+Assist vs minutes played. Even Ferguson said Rooney was number 10 for him after he bought Young.

Rooney has 17 Assist in Everton as a 16/17 years old kid. Something top number 10 still find hard to make in the EPL today.

elampiro:


Same way Manchester United official website stated Cantona as a striker, Wikepedia has Cantona as a striker, etc.

We all know both were number 10. Rooney has only led the line- number 9 in just one season 2009.10. In 2011/12 he played behind Chicharito and Welbeck, it's clear from Zonal Marking match days post match analysis and his midfield stats.

Rooney has about 89 Assists in the PREMIER LEAGUE alone, which makes him probably the most productive players in EPL history on goals+Assist/minutes played. Even Ferguson said Rooney was number 10 for him after he bought Young.

Rooney has 17 Assist in Everton as a 16/17 years old kid. Something top number 10 still find hard to make in the EPL today.

So how come the likes of Scholes, Lampard, Ronaldinho, Gerrard, Modric, Xavi, Fabregas, who are 10 are called midfielders but Rooney who is a 10 according to you is called a striker? So Rooney defies the laws and rules of football?

BBC, independent, etc has Cantona as a former Manchester United striker.

Premier League official website has him as a striker.


You must be new to football.

sinizia:


So how come the likes of Scholes, Lampard, Ronaldinho, Gerrard, Modric, Xavi, Fabregas, who are 10 are called midfielders but Rooney who is a 10 according to you is called a striker? So Rooney defies the laws and rules of football?

Name doesn't tell where a player was used.

Fabregas, Modric, Xavi, Gerald are central midfielders. So they are midfielders. Many saw Ronaldinho as a winger for Brazil and Barca. Wingers are called midfielders.
Although Arsenal used Fab as a false 9 sometimes and Chelsea as a 10 sometimes.

Wikipedia in defining the 'hole' in Association Football used Rooney, Ozil, Maradona, I think Pele too as examples.

SAF said he deployed Rooney to 10, the hole behind the striker. Are you saying SAF was confused?

elampiro:


Name doesn't tell where a player was used.

Fabregas, Modric, Xavi, Gerald are central midfielders. So they are midfielders. Many saw Ronaldinho as a winger for Brazil and Barca. Wingers are called midfielders.
Although Arsenal used Fab as a false 9 sometimes and Chelsea as a 10 sometimes.

Wikipedia in defining the 'hole' in Association Football used Rooney, Ozil, Maradona, I think Pele too as examples.

SAF said he deployed Rooney to 10, the hole behind the striker. Are you saying SAF was confused?

Bunch of excuses. Nothing worth replying about. When you answer my question, let me know.

sinizia:


Bunch of excuses. Nothing worth replying about. When you answer my question, let me know.

Your question doesn't make sense when you ignorantly listed renowned central moidfielders as number 10.

Or is it that you mistake the CM position for 10?

elampiro:


Your question doesn't make sense when you ignorantly listed renowned central moidfielders as number 10.

Or is it that you mistake the CM position for 10?

I was arguing with someone on barcelona thread on this CM and No10 issue -
Who is Chelsea No 10? Oscar or Fabregas?

homesteady:


I was arguing with someone on barcelona thread on this CM and No10 issue -
Who is Chelsea No 10? Oscar or Fabregas?

Behind Costa is number 10. So itks Oscar.

Fab used there too occasionally.

elampiro:


Behind Costa is number 10. So itks Oscar.

Fab used there too occasionally.

That is what I told the guy ohh, but he was saying Fab has been their No 10 since the beginning!

Mou started using fab as No 10 when Oscar got injured or when he wanted to play a defensive game!

StarBoard:

guy learn to accept where you goofed instead of acting like you know what you're saying.
scholes being in the same category as Pirlo (whatever that means) has nothing to do with the overall argument.
this your misplaced humor just gives you away as a nitwit.
I really shouldnt be responding to someone who thinks Rooney would shine at Liverpool because of Gerrard and coutinho.
its unfortunate that I.di.ots choose this thread to display their folly the most.

You are an utter m0ron!

I said Rooney would have performed well and scored frequently or almost as frequent as Suarez did if he was in Liverpool that season they were in form. because he'd enjoy and reap from the playmaking abilities and combination of 'General' and Coutinho.
Sinizia refuted by saying Rooney had 'Scholes' and yet couldn't find the back of the next as often as y'all want, then i explained that the type of midfielder Coutinho is is way different to that of Scholes.
Scholes isn't the type to run with the ball, dribble, make dazzling runs and lay the final pass for the 9 to score.
I proceeded in my debate by placing Scholes in the same category as Pirlo then putting Coutinho in the same category as David Silva, Iniesta, Ozil, Modric , Zidane etc because they play alike.

what is hard to comprehend in that?
the only insipidly wired nitwit I'm seeing here is you

chrisley024:
keeping quiet would've earned you respect instead of this megedefede you just yarn. And stop trying to claim you were joking cos you were not.

coded01 should take you to your thread before you ask who Xavi is?

You are a big fool!

I was joking when I said .. - "who be scholes, wetin dat one sabi"?
is it because I didn't include a smiley?

are you so slow that you couldn't detect that I was only having a lighthearted discussion with Sinizia.
I started watching Scholes play before you even purchased cable or started watching football

its so sad that your sense of humour have unfortunately perished with your comprehension abilities..

elampiro:


Your question doesn't make sense when you ignorantly listed renowned central moidfielders as number 10.

Or is it that you mistake the CM position for 10?

So for all those seasons Rooney was playing 10, what was Scholes' position? Please don't write an article, just tell me Scholes' position since Rooney was paying 10 for 10 seasons out of his total 11 for Man Utd.

Darkrebel666:


You are a big fool!

I was joking when I said .. - "who be scholes, wetin dat one sabi"?
is it because I didn't include a smiley?

are you so slow that you couldn't detect that I was only having a lighthearted discussion with Sinizia.
I started watching Scholes play before you even purchased cable or started watching football

its so sad that your sense of humour have unfortunately perished with your comprehension abilities..

This dimwit keeps exposing the capacity of his brain.

So chances created is proportional to the amount of runs the creator makes?

Can you compare Fab's assists to Oscar's?

Do you even know the number of chances Pirlo create?

Keep goofing!