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bb64:
pls assist wt this. I have been denied of USA visa thrice now can I still repeat it cos I am not relenting

It depends on the reason for the refusals, I mea , if it's in relation to finance, then it is advisable to desist until your conditions improve

kejjie:
I'm happy to find this thread,My question is this: which of the two(2) is preferable to apply for a u.s tourist visa, an invitation from a known person over there or an hotel reservation? Your candid advice sir.

Any or both of them... but if using an invitation letter, it is important to consider the quality of the calibre of the person who is inviting you,

Thank you for your response,based on your answer,i'll opt for hotel reservation. I've denied twice but during those times,i was not married and didn't have any kids. I'm married now and will like to apply with my daughter,i pray to be granted this time around.I have 2 more questions to ask: 1 you talked about the calibre of the person inviting me,pls explain better. 2 what will I fill in the u.s contact information? Thank you.

kejjie:
Thank you for your response,based on your answer,i'll opt for hotel reservation. I've denied twice but during those times,i was not married and didn't have any kids. I'm married now and will like to apply with my daughter,i pray to be granted this time around.I have 2 more questions to ask: 1 you talked about the calibre of the person inviting me,pls explain better. 2 what will I fill in the u.s contact information? Thank you.

Make VERY sure when you go for your interview and more so at point of entry that your hotel reservation is valid. Hotels often cancell bookings if not paid.

please i need your urgent reply; i was recently denial a norway vocational resident permit on the following grounds:

the directorate of immigration believes that the applicant does not have the necessary ties to his country of origin in order to be granted a permit.

the applicant comes from a country with great potential for emigration.reference is made to the economic and social conditions in the applicant's home country. further,the applicant is young,unmarried and without children.

the applicant has not documented a particular connection to norway.

please i plan to appeal the case but i do not know to go about this

royal1989:
please i need your urgent reply; i was recently denial a norway vocational resident permit on the following grounds:
the directorate of immigration believes that the applicant does not have the necessary ties to his country of origin in order to be granted a permit.
the applicant comes from a country with great potential for emigration.reference is made to the economic and social conditions in the applicant's home country. further,the applicant is young,unmarried and without children.
the applicant has not documented a particular connection to norway.
please i plan to appeal the case but i do not know to go about this

They have told you three ways that you do not meet the requirements!
They do not believe that you will return home after your visit.
( You do actually plan on staying there don't you.)

You are wasting their time (and yours) by appealing such a lost case.
Your only course is to improve your ties to home but "the applicant is young,unmarried and without children
is a big big red flag.

kejjie:
Thank you for your response,based on your answer,i'll opt for hotel reservation. I've denied twice but during those times,i was not married and didn't have any kids. I'm married now and will like to apply with my daughter,i pray to be granted this time around.I have 2 more questions to ask: 1 you talked about the calibre of the person inviting me,pls explain better. 2 what will I fill in the u.s contact information? Thank you.

Do you really need me to explain to you the meaning of calibre or quality?
Well, the circumstances of the person inviting you will be taken into consideration, they will look into his records: how s/he entered into the country, what s/he is doing in the country, what s/he had done in the past, the kind of job and how much s/he earns etc.

royal1989:
please i need your urgent reply; i was recently denial a norway vocational resident permit on the following grounds:

the directorate of immigration believes that the applicant does not have the necessary ties to his country of origin in order to be granted a permit.

the applicant comes from a country with great potential for emigration.reference is made to the economic and social conditions in the applicant's home country. further,the applicant is young,unmarried and without children.

the applicant has not documented a particular connection to norway.

please i plan to appeal the case but i do not know to go about this

On what ground are you appealing the decision?

Vicjustice:
On what ground are you appealing the decision?

IMHO He doesn't have any grounds.

@vicjustice thank you for your response. Please I need a clarification on this: during those two times that I was denied,i chose Atlanta as the state i'm visiting and I filled the contact information of my friend that lives there but now I intend to change where i'm visiting to anoda state with an hotel reservation,will that raise an eyebrow as inconsistency? Pls reply. Thank you.

kejjie:
@vicjustice thank you for your response. Please I need a clarification on this: during those two times that I was denied,i chose Atlanta as the state i'm visiting and I filled the contact information of my friend that lives there but now I intend to change where i'm visiting to anoda state with an hotel reservation,will that raise an eyebrow as inconsistency? Pls reply. Thank you.

No, that is not inconsistency especially if you have valid reasons or motives.
The literal meaning of the United States is United Countries. The USA is a compilation of many potential countries UNITED as one sovereign nation.
Now, the United states could be compared to the whole of Europe both in size and political structures, therefore, your question is like asking whether it is inconsistence if someone who once wanted to visit Germany now changes his mind to want to visit Sweden.

@vicjustice,thank you so much,really appreciate.

Hello Visa Officers,

Thank you for the very enlightening information.
I will like to know how long is enough for money lodged into your account not to be termed as money lodgement?
For example, you get money from a sale of property on the 4th of June and your interview date is 29th of June.
Will this be termed as money lodgement by the embassy?

Lopisplayground:
Hello Visa Officers,

Thank you for the very enlightening information.
I will like to know how long is enough for money lodged into your account not to be termed as money lodgement?
For example, you get money from a sale of property on the 4th of June and your interview date is 29th of June.
Will this be tIrmed as money lodgement by the embassy?

In your case, it is not so much about how long ago that the money was lodged into your account, it is more to do with the activities in it and the amount of money that your account has accumulated without the lodgement: you don't expect a Visa Officer to believe that you sold a property and intend to use the money to travel abroad as a tourist, do you?

Vicjustice:
In your case, it is not so much about how long ago that the money was lodged into your account, it is more to do with the activities in it and the amount of money that your account has accumulated without the lodgement: you don't expect a Visa Officer to believe that you sold a property and intend to use the money to travel abroad as a tourist, do you?

Thank you.

If I may get you right sir, what really matter is the activities in the account within the interval of 6months(as requested), and having enough to fund your trip right? Regards.

Opluses:
Thank you.

If I may get you right sir, what really matter is the activities in the account within the interval of 6months(as requested), and having enough to fund your trip right? Regards.

You must be able to document the transactions into your account.
So this is where you need receipts or letters (or wage slips) showing where the money came from.
It is also about having enough for your trip BUT leaving a substantial balance to return to.
You can not empty your account for a holiday.

worry357:
You must be able to document the transactions into your account.
So this is where you need receipts or letters (or wage slips) showing where the money came from.
It is also about having enough for your trip BUT leaving a substantial balance to return to.
You can not empty your account for a holiday.

I really appreciate this sir, at least I'm cleared to some extent. Lastly, if the account in question is a salary account(in my case) do I also have to provide receipt of other cash that comes into same account?

Thank you.

Opluses:
I really appreciate this sir, at least I'm cleared to some extent. Lastly, if the account in question is a salary account(in my case) do I also have to provide receipt of other cash that comes into same account?
Thank you.

If you have large sums coming in then keep some receipts to show the VO.

worry357:
If you have large sums coming in then keep some receipts to show the VO.

Thank you sir

Thank you very much Vicjustice and God will bless you for keepin this thread since 2012.

My question is this, I was denied visa to the US 2012 . Then I wasn't married though my statement of account was ok. I guess why I was denied was becos she felt I won't com back. Now I am married and I want to re apply, what is ur advice for me that will stand me a chance of gettin the visa this time.
And I haven't travelled outside nigeria. A virgin passport.

What chance does d daughter of a uk citizen hav to becomin a citizen of uk?
Her dada is a citizen, she intends relocatin to meet her dadand she's 30 yrs of age now.
What's her chances and limtations.
God bless.

Vicjustice:
A lot of people make the mistake of making deposits into their bank accounts prior to visa application; this action is called "Money Lodgement" which is an express ground for visa refusal: Do not naively commit this violation (by depositing lump sums of money into an account which apparently stands in isolation) for presentation purpose.
Such account does not meet the requirement of an acceptable bank statement so, applying for a visa with it will only give you a definite result, REFUSAL.

This is how it works; An acceptable bank statement must have up to six months transaction records demonstrating your income (from verifiable sources) and expenditures, and it must have good enough fund to sustain your trip and intentions, and also; it must have enough balance to keep you going after the trip: preferably, a Current account, Savings account, Salary or Wages account:
Importantly, you must be able to satisfy your Visa Officer that you have somewhat of an obligation or home tie to return to Nigeria for.
I regret to say that until your bank statements meet the standard format as explained, you will continue to get refused no matter how many times you applied or how much money you have in your accounts

For those considering the use of sponsor, be aware that there are very few circumstances in which it may be considerable for an adult applicant to use a sponsor, such sponsor may be a Spouse (especially for Family Reunion) or Parents/Guidians (especially for Education or for medical reasons) etc. But if you are considering the use of a Company's account, that would be unacceptable (even if you own the company). For a company's sponsorship to be acceptable, you would need to be applying for a training or a course, or a seminar etc that would be deemed profitable to your company in order to satisfy the visa officer of the purpose otherwise, it would be judged that the money in the company's account is not available for your use: unless your company is offering you a complimentary vacation under its care.
And as an adult, you are supposed to be financially independent to meet the requirement for a tourist or pleasure visa; for example, you can't be sponsored by anyone if your intended travel is for the purpose of tourism or romance rather than official or compelling family visit (no sponsor's bank account can cover you except in compelling limited circumstances whereby it is deemed reasonable for his sponsorship to be considered).
*A presentable account has to meet the requirements and the formation of the bank statement that is acceptable as explained in the bolded part of the above paragraph.

It it extremely important to make your visa application early in order to give the embassy enough time to process your application: many people are refused for reason of insufficient time: There is always a general warning that visa applicants should give plenty of time to process applications as delays may occur due to uncertainties and circumstances beyond their control, and in the event that your application is decided after the purpose of your intended trip has expired or is in a tight situation, your visa application may be refused for reason of "change of circumstance".

I decided to add this (my earlier) post since it continues to happen that many people still find themselves in this unfortunate situation, and I thought i should lay emphasis to save people's money.
This informational advice is for country-men and women who continue to bin their thousands of Naira attempting to obtain the UK or the US visas while being unaware that they are under a ban for ten years or for life respectively.
Have you ever been refused a UK visa on the basis of fraudulent, fake, or misleading documents or even serious sensitive misinformation? If so, then apply for a UK visa no more, keep your application fees and try for other countries.
If you committed this act before the 10 years ban came into effect, as long as your finger-prints were taken, you would get the ban on your next visa application: only those who committed it before finger-print era are free from this merciless punishment
It is unfortunate that, except you take measures, you might not be able to find out whether you carry the ten years ban based on fraudulent or misleading documents presentation or, false declaration; this is the unfair method that the UK embassy uses to punish individuals who had attempted to use fake or misleading documents to obtain their visa: they allow them to re-apply unaware of the ban while they extract the visa application fee from the unsuspecting applicants.
If you are unsure of your ban/no-ban status, you are entitled to the rights of knowing your eligibility for the UK visa after refusal and the staff are obliged to let you know it. But however, if you wish to make subsequent application, you can inquire before making your payment: ask them to inform you of your status before paying the visa fee, it is their duty to notify you of it if you ask them even during fresh application.
These said, another way (perhaps the most effective way) that you can find out is your own intuition, you should know whether you were detected presenting any fake, fraudulent or misleading documents or serious sensitive misinformation to support your previous application. And if you were, then, there is no two ways about it, you've just been banned (unaware) for ten good years. Period.

The sad truth is: you did not receive the ban from making subsequent applications, but rather you received the ban from obtaining a UK visa of any category. So, it is up to you to apply a hundred or a thousand times while under a ban, but you will never be given a visa except after the ten years ban expires.
There was this case of a Nigerian visa applicant who was refused a visa for reason of forged documents that he presented in his previous application; after some time, he eventually came clean in his new application, but still he was refused a visa on the basis of the "fraud documents" that he submitted in his previous application. Yet, the cruel visa officer did not advise the mugu applicant that he was under a ban, but the country-man who obviously found no reason for his recent refusal was wise enough to ask about his chance of getting the visa in future application, and then the visa officer was obliged to let him know that he had been under a ban even before his recently denied application was made.
Now, had this countryman known that he was under a ban, he wouldn't have spent his hard-earned money all through that stress and trouble to apply for a visa that will never be issued him?

So, considering the fact that at the UK embassy, over 9000 applicants were caught with fraudulent documentsg in just one year, I wish to request that this thread be kept alive so that others would see it and avoid binning their money, this thread can save millions or even billions of Naira.


NOTE 1: The same applies to the USA visa application, but considering the LIFE BAN that you can get from the US if caught with fake or misleading documents or misinformation, the UK 10 years ban is merciful.

NOTE 2: For expectant mothers; know that it is a serious violation to conceal pregnancy during visa application, and it is even more serious to give birth in a country if your visa is not issued on medical ground: and worse still, to deny the awareness.
And unlike the merciful 10 years ban that is applicable with the UK, You may never be issued a US visa again, this violation MAY attract a life ban from the USA depending on circumstances and judgement
NOTE 3: I am not a Travel or "Visa" agent. And if anyone tells you that he is a visa agent, run away from the person because, most of the people who get into bans are those who solicit the services of syndicates who profess themselves "visa agents".
YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE VISAS YOURSELVES, and you will be sure of the documents that you use. But if you solicit (the so called) visa agents for assistance, you might not know when fake or tampered documents are added to your application, and the result will be a LIFE BAN from the USA.
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Oga I disagree with you that people should not contact travel consultant do u think everybody can handle a visa application?

You would have said use a registered travelling expert consultant, see what u don't know u don't know cos even on the embassy website the checklist they have there alone can't help u get visa so man correct ur self okay, is just like you advising people to do self medication. When they are sick just tell them to go see a doctor and remember not all doctors are real.

kes234:
Oga I disagree with you that people should not contact travel consultant do u think everybody can handle a visa application?
You would have said use a registered travelling expert consultant, see what u don't know u don't know cos even on the embassy website the checklist they have there alone can't help u get visa so man correct ur self okay, is just like you advising people to do self medication. When they are sick just tell them to go see a doctor and remember not all doctors are real.

This is how people like you misrepresent, misquote, and misinterpret noble matters and turn them into complicated issues.
Where in my post did i mention "travel consultant"?
If you don't know the difference between Travel Consultant and "visa agent", then i suggest that you read in silence.

Dear Vicjustice,
I want to apply to the Belgian embassy for a student visa and one of the requirements is that my sponsor will show a proof of about €519 (116,500) i.e 'The sponsor has to be able to provide the student with 519 Euros per month'. My sponsor however has an active account with which he transacts business on a monthly basis in excess of the required sum. My question: will his statement of account be accepted since the required sum is not stationed in the account. The account however shows an active cashflow in excess of the required sum.

Vicjustice, i got a 6 months visa to UK in 2013 on a tourist visa. The interrogation at the hearthrow airport was just annoying and so i told the immigration officer on agreement that I need go back home on the ground that she will not cancel my visa. The reason being that i have to wait for 3 days in the cell to enable them check if truly am working in the company through which the visa was issued. I arrived on a friday morning. I went through several checks and even was fingerprinted and during the wait for my flight i was in one of the immigration cell.
Now when i got my passport back, i noticed that the date of my departure was written on the edge of my passport near but not on the visa with a sort of code i dont understand.
I did not try going back again and now the visa and passport has expired. I have a new passport.
Do you think this will affect my future application to UK or the USA and Canada in case i disclose i have a visa from before the UK?
Your advise or any experienced in the house will be appreciated.
Thanks

okoloto
The UK will have your record on computer file so honesty is the only way forward.
If asked you must report the previous problem but I do not see any reason that you might have a ban.

kenlouis:
Dear Vicjustice,
I want to apply to the Belgian embassy for a student visa and one of the requirements is that my sponsor will show a proof of about €519 (116,500) i.e 'The sponsor has to be able to provide the student with 519 Euros per month'. My sponsor however has an active account with which he transacts business on a monthly basis in excess of the required sum. My question: will his statement of account be accepted since the required sum is not stationed in the account. The account however shows an active cashflow in excess of the required sum.

The question that you should be more concerned about are these:
1) Is the sponsor your own parent?
2) If no, why is he sponsoring you and what would he gain by sponsoring you?
3) Regarding business account, what has your education got to do with the business?
4) Did you even read the opening post of this thread at all before asking your questions?

okoloto:
Vicjustice, i got a 6 months visa to UK in 2013 on a tourist visa. The interrogation at the hearthrow airport was just annoying and so i told the immigration officer on agreement that I need go back home on the ground that she will not cancel my visa. The reason being that i have to wait for 3 days in the cell to enable them check if truly am working in the company through which the visa was issued. I arrived on a friday morning. I went through several checks and even was fingerprinted and during the wait for my flight i was in one of the immigration cell.
Now when i got my passport back, i noticed that the date of my departure was written on the edge of my passport near but not on the visa with a sort of code i dont understand.
I did not try going back again and now the visa and passport has expired. I have a new passport.
Do you think this will affect my future application to UK or the USA and Canada in case i disclose i have a visa from before the UK?
Your advise or any experienced in the house will be appreciated.
Thanks

If what you narrated is nothing but the truth, then you should be fine. But if there was any misrepresentation, then, be concerned.

Vicjustice:
The question that you should be more concerned about are these:
1) Is the sponsor your own parent?
2) If no, why is he sponsoring you and what would he gain by sponsoring you?
3) Regarding business account, what has your education got to do with the business?
4) Did you even read the opening post of this thread at all before asking your questions?

VicJ: I read it sire...d sponsor in question is my parent & d account is not a biz account as such,its a personal savings account. I just want to know if it will be regarded by VO since it has the required cashflow. Thanks

Please,when should one reapply for visitor's visa to USA after refusal?

FunAndre:
Please,when should one reapply for visitor's visa to USA after refusal?

When you have addressed and put right the thing for which you were refused last time.