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hensben:
I lack common sense..falcao was never your player, he was on loan there..man u bought a reject for 75mi euro now that's desperation.

LOL!!! @bolded, Were you the one paying his wages while he was wearing the red shirt? He was given to us to test and possibly buy, we tested and rejected him and your darling club sucked him up. Even monaco his parent club were scared of taking him back. Hahahahahahaha Deal with that...... BTW; @the underlined, i think everyone here and beyond knows that.

AdeLaNa1:
U're misreading my point about Nihilist's post. I only agreed with the fact dat we should stop chasing big name and big money stars like Muller, Ramos, etc. and go for players who ll actually go a long way to improving the team. Players who wont cost as much as dem Ramos and are eager to prove themselves and take their game to the next level. Players like Schneiderlin and co.

alright,but we can do both.
chasing after a player like ramos doesn't mean we won't get schneiderlin.

UniqueGem:
LOL!!! @bolded, Were you the one paying his wages while he was wearing the red shirt? He was given to us to test and possibly buy, we tested and rejected him and your darling club sucked him up. Even monaco his parent club were scared of taking him back. Hahahahahahaha Deal with that...... BTW; @the underlined, i think everyone here and beyond knows that.

man u was paying him 300k per week, he took a pay cut from chelsea.#loangonewrong man=maga. Keep consoling yourself ok. I repeat falcao was never your player or are you that dumb not to know this fact too.

ChristineC:
a Manchester United fan expect his team to focus on 3rd tier players. You are taking advice from a Chelsea fan. Wonderful. At least you ain't an executive, the club could have gone down like Leeds United.

Every fan want Louis van Gaal to bring in proven winners and a significant improvement on last season's showings. Padding the team with mediocrity in the name of signings will yield nothing.

Nathaniel Clyne is not better than any right back currently at Manchester United, or is it Danny Ings or James Milner or Begovic? Please for heaven's love STOP

word,girl.
Pm please.

coogar:
rubbish!
even under moyes, united reached the semis - the same level chelsea got killed by PSG last season. every big club in europe is in a position of strength. go back to your history book and check the calibre of players man city signed before they qualified for UCL.

then come back here & apologise for the fallacious comment you made above.

coogar it was the quarters but your point is noted.
chelsea didnt even make it past the round of 16.
all the profs that speak big big english from the chelsea thread are now suddenly experts on whom united should sign.
I blame that chewing stick manager called moyes.

funlord:

Chaiii! But Man U dulling 4 this transfer window no get part 2 oh? Abi cash don finish?

a window that is three days old
you should be called dull-lord.

hensben:
man u was paying him 300k per week, he took a pay cut from chelsea.#loangonewrong man=maga. Keep consoling yourself ok. I repeat falcao was never your player or are you that dumb not to know this fact too.

Yeah he took a pay cut to join chelsea, remember its a case of having no choice because even his parent club were fearful of his decline. So lets just say all in the name of having a roof over his head, he agreed to stay in a kiosk under the bridge. LOL!!! Its amazing how Lord Fowlcow is now your headache.

UniqueGem:
Yeah he took a pay cut to join chelsea, remember its a case of having no choice because even his parent club were fearful of his decline. So lets just say all in the name of having a roof over his head, he agreed to stay in a kiosk under the bridge. LOL!!! Its amazing how Lord Fowlcow is now your headache.

if you search well you will find that benson and hedges the bubonic m0ron trolled us on falcao when he was at United.
Pls ignore this tsetse fly looking for some dunghill to perch upon.

Nihilist:
Clyne is better than Valencia and Rafael has been dropped from the team by two consecutive managers.

Manyoo is not really in a position of strength in European football right now, and you guys have had to significantly overpay to attract players of the 'right' calibre.

I mean a player like Schweinsteiger for example, is virtually guaranteed another Bundesliga title and at least a round of 16 spot in the UCL....before the league has even started! The only way to tempt that kind of player is to throw a lot of cash at him....and when he inevitably fails to perform in a manner as should befit the wage packet/transfer fee...it would be the whole Rooney/Falcao/Shaw/Di Maria argument again.

Whether or not Schweinsteiger and/or Muller have been contacted by your club is irrelevant, these players are just examples of players that fit the player profile that Manyoo are looking for....and IMO it looks like LVG maybe making the same Mistakes that Moyes made

What the fцck is this?


@the first bolded ,how is Clyne better than Valencia? A player who is just tasting d media hype(because he is British) after just a season n Valencia dat started appearing in d right back position (albeit not frequently) since 2011 ,has UCL n international experience n oh has been playing on d highest level for 6 fцcking years ...we rather continue with Antonio dan go for Nathan n to even think dat Coleman has been consistent in d EPL since his arrival at Everton


@the second bolded ,how are we not in d position of strength in Europe? We hv d financial power to get any player we want provided he's willing to leave his club ,we r in Europe n we r building a squad to challenge for d EPL title next season oh n we hv history so why r we not in d position of strength in Europe? Do u think it's easy to sign a world class player from another big club n expect him to take peanuts or expect his club to? take a look at Real Madrid, check dia wage bill ,how much did de pay for Bale ,Isco ,James ,Kaka n Cr7? look at barca ,how much did de pay for Suarez ,Neymar ,Rackitic n hw much r de bidding for pogba ? In order to get d best talents in d world ,u hv gat to drop some serious dough

Guys the European market just opened barely 3 days ago ,dis transfer businesses drag on for a long time b4 it's completed. We should give Woodward time ,transfer window shuts in September 1

StarBoard:
if you search well you will find that benson and hedges the bubonic m0ron trolled us on falcao when he was at United.
Pls ignore this tsetse fly looking for some dunghill to perch upon.

LOL!! Bro, i'm making sure its a day light nightmare for them. Who would imagine Lord Fowlcow. Talk of licking up ur vomit.

parrotibaba:
What the fцck is this?


@the first bolded ,how is Clyne better than Valencia? A player who is just tasting d media hype(because he is British) after just a season n Valencia dat started appearing in d right back position (albeit not frequently) since 2011 ,has UCL n international experience n oh has been playing on d highest level for 6 fцcking years ...we rather continue with Antonio dan go for Nathan n to even think dat Coleman has been consistent in d EPL since his arrival at Everton


@the second bolded ,how are we not in d position of strength in Europe? We hv d financial power to get any player we want provided he's willing to leave his club ,we r in Europe n we r building a squad to challenge for d EPL title next season oh n we hv history so why r we not in d position of strength in Europe? Do u think it's easy to sign a world class player from another big club n expect him to take peanuts or expect his club to? take a look at Real Madrid, check dia wage bill ,how much did de pay for Bale ,Isco ,James ,Kaka n Cr7? look at barca ,how much did de pay for Suarez ,Neymar ,Rackitic n hw much r de bidding for pogba ? In order to get d best talents in d world ,u hv gat to drop some serious dough

My guy, I dont really want to argue.

Do a Nairaland search for 'Valencia Clyne' and see what your fellow fans on this thread were saying about the matter before he signed for Liverpool. As for Coleman, He's arguably only had one fantastic season(Martinez's first year) but that's a different matter entirely.

I agree you have the financial power...but that's really beside the point. United are arguably the biggest brand in the UK, but how many stars at the peak of their powers have you been able to lure to England with that financial power over the last 20 years?

There's a reason why most of the top players in the world are concentrated in just 3 European clubs.

Anyway, it seems that decent conversation cannot be had on this thread about football without insults or accusations of trolling, so I will shut up now.

StarBoard:
coogar it was the quarters but your point is noted.

my mind wanted to write quarters, fingers wrote semis. i am getting old.

chelsea didnt even make it past the round of 16. all the profs that speak big big english from the chelsea thread are now suddenly experts on whom united should sign.
I blame that chewing stick manager called moyes.

don't mind those drunk chelsea fans. talking nonsense just because they have a belgian pius ikedia in their squad.

Nihilist:
My guy, I dont really want to argue.

Do a Nairaland search for 'Valencia Clyne' and see what your fellow fans on this thread were saying about the matter before he signed for Liverpool. As for Coleman, He's arguably only had one fantastic season(Martinez's first year) but that's a different matter entirely.

I agree you have the financial power...but that's really beside the point. United are arguably the biggest brand in the UK, but how many stars at the peak of their powers have you been able to lure to England with that financial power over the last 20 years?

There's a reason why most of the top players in the world are concentrated in just 3 European clubs.

Anyway, it seems that decent conversation cannot be had on this thread about football without insults or accusations of trolling, so I will shut up now.

valencia is astronomically better than clyne even though valencia isn't our first choice at united. who the heck is clyne? we have seen how lovren, lambert, etc have gone to liverpool and produced shyte - clyne would simply follow the trend.

still in doubt? this is their stats & valencia mopped the floor with nathaniel clyne.

Nihilist:
My guy, I dont really want to argue.

Do a Nairaland search for 'Valencia Clyne' and see what your fellow fans on this thread were saying about the matter before he signed for Liverpool. As for Coleman, He's arguably only had one fantastic season(Martinez's first year) but that's a different matter entirely.

I agree you have the financial power...but that's really beside the point. United are arguably the biggest brand in the UK, but how many stars at the peak of their powers have you been able to lure to England with that financial power over the last 20 years?

There's a reason why most of the top players in the world are concentrated in just 3 European clubs.

Anyway, it seems that decent conversation cannot be had on this thread about football without insults or accusations of trolling, so I will shut up now.

I've also observed that trend. They can't make there points without insulting another. That is why I still respect Elampiro. He argues without insulting.

Keky:
I've also observed that trend. They can't make there points without insulting another. That is why I still respect Elampiro. He argues without insulting.

we insult the idïots & the trolls who deliberately come here to provoke. this is the holy grail of football discussion on the forum & you better have your facts before opening your mouth and ptyalising rubbish. you get held responsible for anything you say & that's a fair deal!

coogar:
valencia is astronomically better than clyne even though valencia isn't our first choice at united. who the heck is clyne? we have seen how lovren, lambert, etc have gone to liverpool and produced shyte - clyne would simply follow the trend.

still in doubt? this is their stats & valencia mopped the floor with nathaniel clyne.

Lol

How times have changed.

I remember how at the end of the season, I stated how Valencia had become one of the better RBs in the league....

Nihilist:
But Valencia has turned out to be one of the better rightbacks in the league this season....

Very solid in attack and defence.

See responses from Manyoo fans.

afrodoc2:
My main grouse with him was as right winger all those years.
Even as a right back heis still clueless most times he is overlapping. if we had Rafael or G.Neville in those sweet positions Valencia found himself we would have created more from the right.
He has a few things going for him....he is fast, stays fit n uninjured and appears tactically disciplined.

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coogar:
he should be taken away from that position. we lost many vital games because of his cluelessness at the back. the only thing he's got his pace to recover the ball. he doesn't even use that pace to beat his markers & his crosses are totally shyte!

we are man utd, we deserve so much better

and

SailorXY:
there's nothing solid about an attacking Valencia. he's the reason there's not much threat from spaces opened up on the right by virtue of the drifting inwards of Juan Mata.

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coogar:
once we buy clyne, valencia would warm the bench. there's no way valencia would start as a RB for us next season.....and he's not even good enough to displace mata in the team. tell your idol to start packing his bags.


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Bear in mind, that this was at the end of season, and those stats had already been collated.

Back then people were judging based on what their eyes could see....and not what whoscored was telling them.

How opinions can change in less than 2 months.

Keky:
I've also observed that trend. They can't make there points without insulting another. That is why I still respect Elampiro. He argues without insulting.

You this clown!

Nihilist:
Lol
How times have changed.

I remember how at the end of the season, I stated how Valencia had become one of the better RBs in the league....

valencia better than clyne doesn't make valencia world class. it just means clyne is shyte. do i still want valencia replaced by a superior right back? of course yes!

See responses from Manyoo fans.

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don't quote responses out of context without showing us the dates don't responses were made. i can go to chelsea thread too and lift our quotes where hazard & costa have been bashed for being too selfish & idiötic - and yet chelsea fans still think he's next to ronaldo/messi.

Bear in mind, that this was at the end of season, and those stats had already been collated.

valencia is better than clyne but united fans world wide still want valencia to be replaced cos it's embarrassing that a club as big as ours is using a winger as a make-shift RB. that logic isn't really difficult to understand. i still do not want valencia as our RB next season even if the facts say is better than clyne.

we are not using clyne as our standard!

Back then people were judging based on what their eyes could see....and not what whoscored was telling them.

How opinions can change in less than 2 months.

like i told you - people just get fed up of seeing valencia in the RB position. there was a time we even argued here concerning rafael. whenever valencia makes the occasional mistakes, it's only natural for aggrieved fans to call for his sack because he isn't a right back in the first place. it still doesn't mean he's not better than clyne!

Danhumprey:
You this clown!

Haha

A technically inept brute like Valencia better than Clyne?

Oh Jesus! What have you guys been smoking over here?

...

coogar:
valencia better than clyne doesn't make valencia world class. it just means clyne is shyte. do i still want valencia replaced by a superior right back? of course yes!




don't quote responses out of context without showing us the dates don't responses were made. i can go to chelsea thread too and lift our quotes where hazard & costa have been bashed for being too selfish & idiötic - and yet chelsea fans still think he's next to ronaldo/messi.



valencia is better than clyne but united fans world wide still want valencia to be replaced cos it's embarrassing that a club as big as ours is using a winger as a make-shift RB. that logic isn't really difficult to understand. i still do not want valencia as our RB next season even if the facts say is better than clyne.

we are not using clyne as our standard!




like i told you - people just get fed up of seeing valencia in the RB position. there was a time we even argued here concerning rafael. whenever valencia makes the occasional mistakes, it's only natural for aggrieved fans to call for his sack because he isn't a right back in the first place. it still doesn't mean he's not better than clyne!

Bros I mostly agree with your sentiment.
Mostly, but not all.

I have no doubts in my mind that Clyne is a better RB than Val.

And judging by the amount of speculative formations starting Clyne over Val at RB, posted by Manyoo fans over the last month s...it would appear that many fans share that belief....even you.

Anyway, I'm not really interested in arguing who is better than who. I just wanted to show that guy that the idea Valencia being rubbish at RB was actually quite popular on this thread....until Clyne went and signed for Liverpool

Nihilist:
My guy, I dont really want to argue.

Do a Nairaland search for 'Valencia Clyne' and see what your fellow fans on this thread were saying about the matter before he signed for Liverpool. As for Coleman, He's arguably only had one fantastic season(Martinez's first year) but that's a different matter entirely.

I agree you have the financial power...but that's really beside the point. United are arguably the biggest brand in the UK, but how many stars at the peak of their powers have you been able to lure to England with that financial power over the last 20 years?

There's a reason why most of the top players in the world are concentrated in just 3 European clubs.

Anyway, it seems that decent conversation cannot be had on this thread about football without insults or accusations of trolling, so I will shut up now.

a Nairaland Valencia search ain't necessary because d stats speak for dem selves ,by d way I didn't insult u ,was just shocked at ur post ,d fact is dis ,SAF never spent more dan £50 million in a single transfer market ,he went for potentials not already made stars n I believe dat was d reason he has only 2 UCL titles to his name cos for a very few exceptions ,he never went for d mega stars in other clubs. Now u can't possibly use dis logic to argue dat we can't attract players even with our financial power ,it's just dat d coach is not willing to spend big on world class players rather he went for d likes of Hernandez ,Evra ,Vidic ,n his last transfer says it all ,Zaha. He'd rather buy them cheap n groom dem into talents dan get an already made talent (d few times he tried it ,it worked for him)

and hey @Nihilist I do understand ur point on d clyne-valencia issue. Yes so many united fans wanted him in place of Valencia but I among a few others were skeptical about dat guy since we all know how d media can hype dia players

Nihilist:
Bros I mostly agree with your sentiment.
Mostly, but not all.

I have no doubts in my mind that Clyne is a better RB than Val.

And judging by the amount of speculative formations starting Clyne over Val at RB, posted by Manyoo fans over the last month s...it would appear that many fans share that belief....even you.

Anyway, I'm not really interested in arguing who is better than who. I just wanted to show that guy that the idea Valencia being rubbish at RB was actually quite popular on this thread....until Clyne went and signed for Liverpool

valencia is still rubbish as RB.
i will be very disappointed if we don't sign a proper RB this summer. a club as big as ours need a specialist RB.

coogar:
don't mind those drunk chelsea fans. talking nonsense just because they have a belgian pius ikedia in their squad.

please who might that be?

the one better than everyone else but ronaldo and messi?

StarBoard:
please who might that be?

the one better than everyone else but ronaldo and messi?

edwin hassad

coogar:
edwin hassad

hahahaha

now youre "trolling".

isnt it funny dat lately when you get busted for yarning dust, you claim that you're being insulted?or rather when your bogus claims are being deflated dat some peeps resort to saying that we claim they are "trolling"?

Valencia better than clyne?? Nairaland,Weed,Wine and Yarns

How good is clyne really ?

AirborneLacer:
A technically inept brute like Valencia better than Clyne?

Oh Jesus! What have you guys been smoking over here?

so Clyne is better? lol.. okay o

SIRcumalot:
How good is clyne really ?

Lol

There are so many reasons why those statistics are very misleading.

Firstly, comparing both players on a per 90 metric is completely wrong, when there is such a huge gap in the number of minutes played between the two.

To test this out, run the exact same comparisons between Matic and Coquelin on a per 90 metric. Come back and testify if the story the stats suggest tell an accurate story. Or do Phil Jones and John Terry. or maybe De Gea and Ospina.

Secondly, Valencia played as a winger and central midfield for some parts if the campaign last term, Clyne was a full back. I'll let you guess who should have naturally have more take ons...and more chances created.

There's a reason why there are so many gifs posted on this thread by your fellow fans to highlight some poor defending and attacking from Valencia. There's a reason you said this less than two weeks ago:

SIRcumalot:
Why are we not actively pursuing clyne ?
the way the thing dey go Liverpool go grab this guy for shikini moni.
Or is LVG comfortable with Valenica has our RB

Because sometimes....the stats just don't add up