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Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Demmzy15(m): 6:44pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
WombRaiders:So they don't use the bible? ! |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Demmzy15(m): 6:45pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
winner01:Not my Quran but the Christianity literature!! |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Demmzy15(m): 6:47pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
WombRaiders:Looks like you know a lot! |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by winner01(m): 6:49pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Demmzy15:show me where the bible said she was underage... |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by ibrokola(m): 6:52pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
winner01:The Government is God's authority on earth and so are the laws! Therefore it's the govt's land and not BHs land! |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by skydeexie(m): 6:55pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
[size=15pt]Muslim cleric: When you kill Infidels, “they shall take your place in the hellfire”[/size] He is broadcasting this hatred and incitement to violence into Britain. Do British authorities ever consider the possibility that he might be convincing people? As you can see below, what he says has ready support in the Qur’an and Islamic tradition. Are British officials aware of that, or are they too busy keeping opponents of jihad terror out of the country? “Hate preacher accused of radicalising 7/7 bombers now recruiting Brit jihadis for ISIS,” by Nick Sommerlad and Russell Myers, Mirror, July 7, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace): A hate preacher who accused of radicalising the 7/7 bombers is now recruiting British jihadis for Islamic State, the Mirror can reveal. Abdullah al-Faisal, who met both suicide bomber Germaine Lindsey and his jihadi wife Samantha Lewthwaite, spent four years in jail in the UK for soliciting murder but since his release in 2007 fled to his native Jamaica. Ten years on from the London terror attacks, al-Faisal is broadcasting almost daily online rants to thousands of followers – including many Brits. He heaps praise on the ISIS caliphate in Syria and Iraq and is feared to have brainwashed many impressionable young Muslims living in the West to travel there to join in jihad. He claimed: “Some people are so sinful, after living in Dar ul-Harb (the West) for many years, the only way they can go to Paradise is for them to die on the battlefield fighting for Allah. Dar al-harb does not actually mean “the West.” It means “house of war.” “When you go to the battlefield and you kill the kuffar (non-Muslims), they shall take your place in the hellfire.” He makes no attempt to shy away from the horrific atrocities ISIS militants commit in the name of religion – and even seeks to praise and justify them. Al-Faisal defended the horrific mass-beheadings of ISIS opponents saying: “The Muslims of Iraq have many cities to conquer. “If they take captives, they will slow them down and resources will be wasted on them because they will have to be fed and watched over. It is cheaper to kill them and get over it. The food we have is for the mujahideen not for the Kuffaar.” “It is not for a prophet to have captives until he inflicts a massacre in the land.” (Qur’an 8:67) In another lecture last month, al-Faisal justified ISIS taking Yazidi women and children slaves and selling them “in the marketplace at an auction like you auction cattle”. He said: “These women are spoils of war – you don’t have to marry your spoils of war to go to bed with them. “O Prophet! We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have paid dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses of those whom Allah has given you as spoils of war…” (Qur’an 33:50) He attacked ideas like “Islamic democracy” and even claimed there was no such thing as “marital rape”: “It is not marital rape if it is done playfully. It is only rape if it is done violently.” A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning” (Bukhari 4.54.460). And: “By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel’s saddle” (Ibn Majah 1854). But he shied away from openly providing practical help to followers wanting to travel to Iraq and Syria, telling one: “I cannot help people go to the dawla (Islamic State). I am the worst person to ask this question. “All of my communications are bugged by the kuffar, so you will get caught if I instruct you about going to the dawla. Find someone in the dawla to ask this question.” Abdullah al-Faisal was named by former Home Secretary John Reid as a “strong influence” on the 7/7 bombers, including ringleader Mohammed Siddique Khan and Germaine Lindsay. He admits meeting Lindsay and his widow Samantha Lewthwaite – the “White Widow” – but denied radicalising them…. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/muslim-cleric-when-you-kill-infidels-they-shall-take-your-place-in-the-hellfire Our muslim brothers please face the truth and run back to the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. He is ready to save to the uttermost those who come to Him, seeing that He forever lives to make intercession for us all. Thank you fellow Christian brothers, and may the Lord gives you the courage to face the worldwide soon coming persecution from the hands of the Islamist - It is based on this scripture from the book of Revelation in the Bible... "9 And when He had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the Word of God, and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost Thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?” 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them, and it was said unto them that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants and also their brethren, who were to be killed as they were, should be fulfilled." (Rev. 6:9-11 KJ21) |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by taofeeq137(m): 6:57pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
chuksmarvin: ok...thanks, for having an open mind, this is the only way we can move forward, so back to your question. I would rather answer that with 2 stories from the bible. The Hebrew Midwives In Exodus, Pharaoh decides to weaken the people of Israel by killing every newborn boy (Exodus 1:16). But the midwives disobey and let the boys live. When the king of Egypt asks them why they’re doing this, they answer, “The Hebrew women ... are vigorous and give birth before the midwife comes to them” (Exodus 1:19). Now, regardless of how vigorous the Hebrew women are, this statement is a lie. It is meant to lead Pharaoh to believe a falsehood—namely, that the midwives were doing their best to obey but just couldn’t get there in time. Does their dishonesty displease God? It doesn’t seem like it, according to the next verse: “God was kind to the midwives and the people increased and became even more numerous.” They’re not rebuked; they’re blessed. Rahab and the Two Spies Another example is found in Joshua 2. Joshua sends two men to spy out Jericho, and the king of Jericho finds out. They go to Rahab, a prostitute, and she hides them. When the king’s messengers come looking for them, she says: “The men came to me, but I did not know where they came from. And when it was time to close the gate at dark, the men went out. Where the men went I do not know. Pursue them quickly, for you can overtake them” (Joshua 2:4–5). The rest of the chapter tells how she believes in God and is delivered when Jericho is attacked. So the biblical interpretation of her action is that it was done from a heart of faith—even though she lied. It can be concluded from these two stories that it is possible to be a person who fears God (like the Hebrew midwives) and who acts in faith (like Rahab) and yet feels constrained in extreme situations to oppose evil by lying. So Christians, Muslims...Even tho we are expected to not lie, it is allowed in extreme situations, even if there would be a greater reward if we didnt even lie at all. |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by smarthG(f): 7:06pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
mekadinho: Truth is biter but you said it at least! It is now clare to Tinubu he made a big mistake and those who don't know as e dey go still dey hail Buhari |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by winner01(m): 7:07pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
ibrokola:God's Word supercedes any human government.....was it mohammed's land he fought for |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by rigarmortis: 7:09pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Buhari should be beheaded for calling jihad warriors who practise the most noble and direvt command from the prophet non muslims. Calm down my brethren. Allah ruleth still. Allah is doG. And uncle moe is his prophet. |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by refreshrate: 7:23pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Demmzy15: No they do not sir. Matter of fact they ware known ts strongly oppose the catholic church |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by inosend: 7:24pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Dharniel:bros, it is not northern nigeria muslims but islam. Or how do you explain isis, al qaeda, al shebaab, hezbollah, etc, etc? |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Nobody: 7:26pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Teempakguy:I tell you the truth my brother there is NO peaceful moslem I tell you. The so-called educated ones are even the MOST DANGEROUS I tell you. They are slow poisons. They are the worst of them all I tell you |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Nobody: 7:31pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
inosend: you've got a point, but i still belive those sects are taking the religion in a wrong way and manner, am not a muslim but the truth's gotta be told, some genuine muslim clerics do condemn the acts of those sect... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Belvine33(f): 7:34pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
These terrorist groups are not practicing islam. Islam never said to kill, don't get it twisted. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Nobody: 7:38pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Islamabad |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by tupem: 7:42pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
oluwwasheun:dude which religious violence wan pass wetin dey ground?! I weak for you o! |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by tupem: 7:49pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Cutehector:you dey mind the guy?! make dem dey deceive their head! |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by heedrhez(m): 7:49pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
WombRaiders: d holy quran in chapter 2 vs 256 says LA IKRA FI DEEN meaning there is no compulsion in the acceptance of the religion islam preaches peace not violence |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Emnyte(m): 7:51pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
taofeeq137:We are no more in the time of law, we are in the time of grace. If we are still following the old testament, them we should still be offering sacrifices. 1 Like |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Emnyte(m): 7:53pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Hmm |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by harbarzzy(m): 7:53pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
A lot of people has been scam and kill with Jesus name..does that means they are xtains? |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by tupem: 7:55pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Dharniel:they condemn it cos they are now feeling the heat! why are people lying here! northern Muslims have been maiming and killing Christians from time immemorial! they (Muslims) never for once condemn these act! they revel in it through silence and smirks in their faces! now an ugly monster has grown adding Muslims to their feast they now spew lies and rubbish! nonsense! 3 Likes |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Emnyte(m): 7:56pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
taofeeq137:The old testament is meant for us to know what is being practiced in the time of law before the jesus came, so that we can know the essence of christ coming, death and resurrection. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by dellsystems: 7:56pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
anybody trying to seperate islam with violence and terrorism is not sincere. they are like siamese twins. |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Laid2001: 7:56pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
But there are more verses in the bible that calls to violence than 109 WombRaiders: |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Sike(m): 7:57pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Islam, the only way! 1 Like |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by heedrhez(m): 8:00pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
noblezone:wat verse of the bible did jesus say so would urge to read deutronomy 18:18 |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by Emnyte(m): 8:00pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
If I happen to be a muslim, i would be regreting. Thank God my dad converted before i was born. |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by anibestlala(m): 8:00pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Demmzy15:because the above claim they pursue the cause of race while the below claim to pursue the cause of Islam.do u still wonder why |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by olutunde12(m): 8:01pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
freshness2020: Nigeria in the hands of a Boko Haram apologist or do we say former sponsor and mastermind? |
Re: Killing People While Shouting Allahu Akbar Is Not Islam – Buhari by anibestlala(m): 8:07pm On Jul 09, 2015 |
Laid2001:if u say this you have no knowledge of the Bible or Jesus who is the central theme of the Bible.can u compare Jesus stand on violence to that of Mohammed who the central theme of the quran |
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