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Coldfeet:
When you read the Holy Bible like a novel or newspaper confusion is what you get!


But if you invite the Holy spirit to lead you and grant you understanding, you will have wisdom to understand the word of God.

My God is not a God of confusion!!!!
the word of God is perfect .

fajani:
Do you find this Contradict.... There was Jesus Christ before the creation of the World....

BuddhaPalm:
So some of God's creations are strangers to him?

Freemanan:
SUPERSUAVE WE MADE IT....



OYA COME LET'S TALK LIKE ELDERS

hamzeiy:
exactlly....thats why the bible isnt a word of God...guy it is filled with confusion....oh maybe it is because i dont have the holyspirit in me.....pls as a holy spirited human being that understands this confusion xplain to a fellow human..that i may understand..

Zamurano1:
Commenting on this is a waste of tym cos the poster does nt have any knowledge abt the bible. To me the poster is a BH dts all.

sambisa5:
I don't have any doubt you are a muslim,,,,,,,,how can you extract verses and start talking rub.bish here,,,,besides,the new testament can never be the same as the old testament,,,,,,Jesus came to preach nothing but the good news of love and peace,,, unlike the time of moses when everything was law, law....

SuperSuave:
This is not the first time I noticed some bible verses are actually saying the opposite of another. Isn't the gospel supposed to be preached in one accord? I first noticed that Jesus Christ actually turned water into wine(alcoholic wine not fruit wine cos my Yoruba bible says "oti wine" which means Jesus somehow endorses wine. In the same Bible again I saw in Galatians(can't remember the chapter and verse), where the fruits of the flesh were listed, drunkenness was listed also.

Another thing that ultimately made no sense was the whole Old Testament/New Testament conundrum. God actually changes his mind? In Leviticus, God lays down a bunch of laws and calls them “everlasting.” Then in the New Testament, we suddenly hear this:

For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. —Hebrews 8:7

Another one was when God brought a sheet unto Peter which contained various four-legged and two-legged animals and beasts of different kind, then God told Peter to arise, kill and eat. Peter refused saying he cannot eat unclean things, God rebuked him by saying how can he(Peter) call the things He(God) created unclean?

And later I read another verse where God outlined the forbidden animals, birds and beasts we should not eat.

I was confused, so I went online to checkout if there are more Bible verses that contradicts one another, the ones I found are listed below[/font][/size][/b][/color]


Atheists should keep off this thread pls

Ahmed4002:
Where there is conflict is because of false
assertions, fabrications, exaggerations,
personalized interpretations of alleged writers,
historians, scholars, and individuals.
Because you never met anyone who knew what was the whole Bible.
Christians, themselves, have 700 different
denominations and there are approximately
thirty-nine different versions of the Bible with
different books, different verses, different
amounts of verses and different amount of
chapters and they don’t even agree to that.
If you read the scriptures carefully without your interpretation or someone else’s interpretation or someoneelse’s fabrication, you will find that this is their simple message.
Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jacob, Solomon,
Ishmael, Isaac, Jesus and Muhammad, may the
peace and blessings of God be upon all of them.
All of these men came with the exact same
message from the same God. They said one
thing—the same thing: worship God. Obey God,
and fulfill your purpose in life, do good actions,
and you will be rewarded with another life.
Don’t make it more than that. That is all they
said, regardless of what language, what time,
and who they came to.
All the prophets and messengers came
with the same message: to obey the Almighty
God and be sincere towards Him. If we examine
the message of each of the well-known
prophets, we can easily conclude this fact.

Coldfeet:
When you read the Holy Bible like a novel or newspaper confusion is what you get!


But if you invite the Holy spirit to lead you and grant you understanding, you will have wisdom to understand the word of God.

My God is not a God of confusion!!!!
the word of God is perfect .

hamzeiy:
eyya...ok..you that has the spirit pls xplain to me in human language...that i may understand and follow your faith...

An2elect2:
The bible was not written for unbelievers

annibro:
I thot I quoted d Op... Anyhow, Spiritual tins cannot be explained in human Language, otherwise it would only lead 2 unneccessary arguements & irrelevant comparisons.
Like I said, except U have D Spirit of God, u cannot understand D Word of God. U can't place d cart b4 d horse.
And except U're called, u can't belong 2 dis Faith.

ShakurM:
Your verses are taken out of contexts and paragraphs now




When we take text out of their context we are stripping the meaning of the verses and give them a different, and usually a wrong meaning.

Example 1 ;

Matthew 5:39 “if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.”

Jesus is not saying that we shouldn’t defend ourselves but He is using hyperbole or exaggeration.  What He means is that when others insult you, don’t retaliate.  Just turn the other cheek, not to have them slap you there…but to turn the other way and to leave vengeance to God (Rom 12:19. ).  Even Jesus “When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten, but continued entrusting himself to him who judges justly” (1 Pet 2:23).

Example 2;

Philippians 4:13 “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.”

Paul is not telling the church at Philippi that they can do anything they want or can do all things that they want to do.  He is saying that we can do anything “through Christ” or “in Christ.”  The context is saying that we can do anything that is in the will of Jesus Christ because He is the One who will strengthen (enable) you do to it.  Paul is not saying that you can do anything you want or anything in Christ that is not His will but he is saying that we can endure all sufferings if we are in Christ because just before 4:13 Paul writes “Not that I speak in regard to need, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content:  I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need” (Phil 4:11-12).  Paul was writing this in prison and he was likely cold, hungry, and alone, yet he learned to be content in whatever state he was in…but only “in Christ.”  It might be better to think of this as saying “We can endure all things in Christ.”

Example 3

First John 4:16b “God is love.”

Yes, God is love, but that is only one tiny fraction of the manifold attributes of God.  This is like someone saying something about me to another person; “Jack is a cousin.”  Yes, I am a cousin, but I am also a husband, a father, a grandfather, a son, an uncle, and so on.  You cannot elevate one attribute of God to the exclusion of His other attributes.  Many say that a loving God would not send someone to hell because “God is love.” Yes, God is love but love and discipline go together.  Their “God is love” is a God created in their own image.  First and foremost, God is holy.  He cannot even look upon sin and that is why He turned away from Jesus, His only Son, at the cross.  I love my children and my grandchildren and I would discipline them if they ran out into the street to play because they could get hurt, or worse, killed.  My love comes with my discipline. It is exactly because I love them that I do discipline them, just as God disciplines every one of His own children (Heb 12:5-7).

annibro:
I thot I quoted d Op... Anyhow, Spiritual tins cannot be explained in human Language, otherwise it would only lead 2 unneccessary arguements & irrelevant comparisons.
Like I said, except U have D Spirit of God, u cannot understand D Word of God. U can't place d cart b4 d horse.
And except U're called, u can't belong 2 dis Faith.

isaacasher:
people like U juz make me happy.... These folks don't understand dat its the letter dat killeth .....

ideatoprince18:
........pls n OKs Mohammad's is never n will never b a prophet!!!!

sukkot:
they dont contradict if you know and understand that the bible is not a literal text but is symbolic and allegorical. for example if i write a story in 2 different books of the bible and the message to be gotten from it is that buhari is a saint. in one book i can say buhari stumbled on 10,000 naira and returned it to the owner. in another book i can write the same story as he stumbled on 20,000 naira but he returned it to the owner. to the unenlightened who reads the bible literally this is a contradiction. but the message from the story is the same and is what you need to extract from the symbolic story which is ' buhari is a honest man '. thats how the bible is written. it is not to be taken literally.

mactoni91:
1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6
2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16 God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2 4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/
Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be
heard John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/
1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28 6. God is everywhere present, sees
and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job
34:22,21
God is not everywhere present,
neither sees nor knows all things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in
their heart Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19
9. God is unchangeable James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/
Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam
2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14 10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/
Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom
9:11-13/ Matt 13:12 11. God is the author of evil
Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/
Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25
God is not the author of evil
1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James
1:13 12. God gives freely to those who
ask
James 1:5/ Luke 11:10
God withholds his blessings and
prevents men from receiving
them John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is
63:17
13. God is to be found by those
who seek him
Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17
God is not to be found by those who seek him
Prov 1:28
14. God is warlike
Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15
God is peaceful
Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33 15. God is cruel, unmerciful,
destructive, and ferocious
Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam
15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19
God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/
1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8
16. God's anger is fierce and
endures long
Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4
God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute
Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5
17. God commands, approves of,
and delights in burnt offerings,
sacrifices ,and holy days
Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9
God disapproves of and has no
pleasure in burnt offerings,
sacrifices, and holy days.
Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is
1:13,11,12 18. God accepts human sacrifices
2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg
11:30-32,34,38,39
God forbids human sacrifice
Deut 12:30,31
19. God tempts men Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/
Matt 6:13
God tempts no man
James 1:13
20. God cannot lie
Heb 6:18 God lies by proxy; he sends forth
lying spirits t deceive
2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek
14:9
21. Because of man's wickedness
God destroys him Gen 6:5,7
Because of man's wickedness
God will not destroy him
Gen 8:21
22. God's attributes are revealed in
his works. Rom 1:20
God's attributes cannot be
discovered
Job 11:7/ Is 40:28
23. There is but one God
Deut 6:4 There is a plurality of gods
Gen 1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/
1 John 5:7 Moral Precepts 24. Robbery commanded
Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36
Robbery forbidden
Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15
25. Lying approved and sanctioned
Josh 2:4-6/ James 2:25/ Ex 1:18-20/ 1 Kings 22:21,22
Lying forbidden
Ex 20:16/ Prov 12:22/ Rev 21:8
26. Hatred to the Edomite
sanctioned
2 Kings 14:7,3 Hatred to the Edomite forbidden
Deut 23:7
27. Killing commanded
Ex 32:27
Killing forbidden
Ex 20:13 28. The blood-shedder must die
Gen 9:5,6
The blood-shedder must not die
Gen 4:15
29. The making of images
forbidden Ex 20:4
The making of images
commanded
Ex 25:18,20
30. Slavery and oppression
ordained Gen 9:25/ Lev 25:45,46/ Joel 3:8
Slavery and oppression forbidden
Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt
23:10
31. Improvidence enjoyed
Matt 6:28,31,34/ Luke 6:30,35/ Luke 12:3
Improvidence condemned
1 Tim 5:8/ Prov 13:22
32. Anger approved
Eph 4:26
Anger disapproved Eccl 7:9/ Prov 22:24/ James 1:20
33. Good works to be seen of men
Matt 5:16
Good works not to be seen of
men
Matt 6:1 34. Judging of others forbidden
Matt 7:1,2
Judging of others approved
1 Cor 6:2-4/ 1 Cor 5:12
35. Christ taught non-resistance
Matt 5:39/ Matt 26:52 Christ taught and practiced
physical resistance
Luke 22:36/ John 2:15
36. Christ warned his followers not
to fear being killed
Luke 12:4 Christ himself avoided the Jews
for fear of being killed
John 7:1
37. Public prayer sanctioned
1 Kings 8:22,54, 9:3
Public prayer disapproved Matt 6:5,6
38. Importunity in prayer
commended
Luke 18:5,7
Importunity in prayer condemned
Matt 6:7,8 39. The wearing of long hair by
men sanctioned
Judg 13:5/ Num 6:5
The wearing of long hair by men
condemned
1 Cor 11:14 40. Circumcision instituted
Gen 17:10
Circumcision condemned
Gal 5:2
41. The Sabbath instituted
Ex 20:8 The Sabbath repudiated
Is 1:13/ Rom 14:5/ Col 2:16
42. The Sabbath instituted because
God rested on the seventh day
Ex 20:11
The Sabbath instituted because God brought the Israelites
out of Egypt
Deut 5:15
43. No work to be done on the
Sabbath under penalty of death
Ex 31:15/ Num 15:32,36 Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath
and justified his disciples in
the same
John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5
44. Baptism commanded
Matt 28:19 Baptism not commanded
1 Cor 1:17,14
45. Every kind of animal allowed for
food.
Gen 9:3/ 1 Cor 10:25/ Rom 14:14
Certain kinds of animals prohibited for food.
Deut 14:7,8
46. Taking of oaths sanctioned
Num 30:2/ Gen 21:23-24,31/
Gen 31:53/ Heb 6:13
Taking of oaths forbidden Matt 5:34
47. Marriage approved
Gen 2:18/ Gen 1:28/ Matt 19:5/
Heb 13:4
Marriage disapproved
1 Cor 7:1/ 1 Cor 7:7,8 48. Freedom of divorce permitted
Deut 24:1/ Deut 21:10,11,14
Divorce restricted
Matt 5:32
49. Adultery forbidden
Ex 20:14/ Heb 13:4 Adultery allowed
Num 31:18/ Hos 1:2; 2:1-3
50. Marriage or cohabitation with a
sister denounced
Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17
Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union
Gen 20:11,12/ Gen 17:16
51. A man may marry his brother's
widow
Deut 25:5
A man may not marry his brother's widow
Lev 20:21
52. Hatred to kindred enjoined
Luke 14:26
Hatred to kindred condemned
Eph 6:2/ Eph 5:25,29 53. Intoxicating beverages
recommended
Prov 31:6,7/ 1 Tim 5:23/ Ps
104:15
Intoxicating beverages
discountenanced Prov 20:1/ Prov 23:31,32
54. It is our duty to obey our rulers,
who are God's ministers
and punish evil doers only
Rom 13:1-3,6
It is not our duty to obey rulers, who sometimes punish the
good and receive unto
themselves damnation therefor
Ex 1:17,20/ Dan 3:16,18/ Dan
6:9,7,10/ Acts 4:26,27/
Mark 12:38,39,40/ Luke 23:11,24,33,35
55. Women's rights denied
Gen 3:16/ 1 Tim 2:12/ 1 Cor
14:34/ 1 Pet 3:6
Women's rights affirmed
Judg 4:4,14,15/ Judg 5:7/ Acts 2:18/ Acts 21:9
56. Obedience to masters enjoined
Col 3:22,23/ 1 Pet 2:18
Obedience due to God only
Matt 4:10/ 1 Cor 7:23/ Matt 23:10
57. There is an unpardonable sin Mark 3:29
There is not unpardonable sin
Acts 13:39 Historical Facts 58. Man was created after the other
animals
Gen 1:25,26,27
Man was created before the other
animals
Gen 2:18,19 59. Seed time and harvest were
never to cease
Gen 8:22
Seed time and harvest did cease
for seven years
Gen 41:54,56/ Gen 45:6 60. God hardened Pharaoh's heart
Ex 4:21/ Ed 9:12
Pharaoh hardened his own heart
Ex 8:15
61. All the cattle and horses in Egypt
died Ex 9:3,6/ 14:9
All the horses of Egypt did not die
Ex 14:9
62. Moses feared Pharaoh
Ex 2:14,15,23; 4:19
Moses did not fear Pharaoh Heb 11:27
63. There died of the plague
twenty-four thousand
Num 25:9
There died of the plague but
twenty-three thousand 1 Cor 10:8
64. John the Baptist was Elias
Matt 11:14
John the Baptist was not Elias
John 1:21
65. The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob
Matt 1:16
The father of Mary's husband was
Heli
Luke 3:23
66. The father of Salah was Arphaxad
Gen 11:12
The father of Salah was Cainan
Luke 3:35,36
67. There were fourteen
generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:17
There were but thirteen
generations from Abraham to David
Matt 1:2-6
68. There were fourteen
generations from the Babylonian captivity
to Christ.
Matt 1:17
There were but thirteen
generations from the Babylonian
captivity to Christ Matt 1:12-16
69. The infant Christ was taken into
Egypt
Matt 2:14,15,19,21,23
The infant Christ was not taken
into Egypt Luke 2:22, 39
70. Christ was tempted in the
wilderness
Mark 1:12,13
Christ was not tempted in the
wilderness John 2:1,2
71. Christ preached his first sermon
on the mount
Matt 5:1,2
Christ preached his first sermon
on the plain Luke 6:17,20
72. John was in prison when Jesus
went into Galilee
Mark 1:14
John was not in prison when
Jesus went into Galilee John 1:43/ John 3:22-24
73. Christ's disciples were
commanded to go forth with a staff
and sandals
Mark 6:8,9
Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with neither
staffs nor sandals.
Matt 10:9,10
74. A woman of Canaan besought
Jesus
Matt 15:22 It was a Greek woman who
besought Him
Mark 7:26
75. Two blind men besought Jesus
Matt 20:30
Only one blind man besought Him Luke 18:35,38
76. Christ was crucified at the third
hour
Mark 15:25
Christ was not crucified until the
sixth hour John 19:14,15
77. The two thieves reviled Christ.
Matt 27:44/ Mark 15:32
Only one of the thieves reviled
Christ
Luke 23:39,40 78. Satan entered into Judas while
at supper
John 13:27
Satan entered into him before the
supper
Luke 22:3,4,7 79. Judas committed suicide by
hanging
Matt 27:5
Judas did not hang himself, but
died another way
Acts 1:18 80. The potter's field was purchased
by Judas
Acts 1:18
The potter's field was purchased
by the Chief Priests
Matt 27:6,7 81. There was but one woman who
came to the sepulchre
John 20:1
There were two women who
came to the sepulchre
Matt 28:1 82. There were three women who
came to the sepulchre
Mark 16:1
There were more than three
women who came to the sepulchre
Luke 24:10 83. It was at sunrise when they
came to the sepulchre
Mark 16:2
It was some time before sunrise
when they came.
John 20:1 84. There were two angels seen by
the women at the sepulchre, and
they were standing up.
Luke 24:4
There was but one angel seen,
and he was sitting down. Matt 28:2,5
85. There were two angels seen
within the sepulchre.
John 20:11,12
There was but one angel seen
within the sepulchre Mark 16:5
86. Christ was to be three days and
three nights in the grave
Matt 12:40
Christ was but two days and two
nights in the grave Mark 15:25,42,44,45,46; 16:9>
87. Holy ghost bestowed at
pentecost
Acts 1:8,5
Holy ghost bestowed before
pentecost John 20:22
88. The disciples were commanded
immediately after the
resurrection to go into Galilee
Matt 28:10
The disciples were commanded immediately after the
resurrection to go tarry at
Jerusalem
Luke 24:49
89. Jesus first appeared to the
eleven disciples in a room at Jerusalem
Luke 24:33,36,37/ John 20:19
Jesus first appeared to the eleven
on a mountain in Galilee
Matt 28:16,17
90. Christ ascended from Mount Olivet
Acts 1:9,12
Christ ascended from Bethany
Luke 24:50,51
91. Paul's attendants heard the
miraculous voice, and stood speechless
Acts 9:7
Paul's attendants heard not the
voice and were prostrate
Acts 26:14
92. Abraham departed to go into Canaan
Gen 12:5
Abraham went not knowing
where
Heb 11:8
93. Abraham had two sons Gal 4:22
Abraham had but one son
Heb 11:17
94. Keturah was Abraham's wife
Gen 25:1
Keturah was Abraham's concubine
1 Chron 1:32
95. Abraham begat a son when he
was a hundred years old, by the
interposition of Providence
Gen 21:2/ Rom 4:19/ Heb 11:12 Abraham begat six children more
after he was a hundred years
old without any interposition of
providence
Gen 25:1,2

allanphash7:
Christainity is a scam




Islam is fraud





I beleive in myself and i preaches love




Love is my religion

dives:
This your second paragraph is not encouraging o.

Assuming i am a pagan in a remote village who just stumbled upon the Bible. I don't know anything about Christianity not to even talk of ever hearing of the Holy Spirit before.

So how do i really get to learn about Christianity? Does that mean no hope for me?