cap28:


They are not the same thing, bro.

I know many igbos who attend military and federal government colleges in the north, no-one treated them differently because they were Igbo.

One of my good friends attended the Nigerian Military School in Zaria and never had any problems there.


On the other hand i know many black people who attended white elite schools in the US and the UK that had serious problems simply because of the colour of their skin.

The point is that racism is there but exaggerated like the Op said. I have lived in both countries so I know.

pappilo:
The poster is extremly daft for the racism bit. I read that and didnt bother to read the rest.

How can a slowpoke spend a couple of days in a state and say racism is exaggerated? Go and tell that to all the minorities living in section 8 concrete jungles, the young black men who are never given a chance as they are criminalized from ages as early as 12 for smoking weed(Obama smoked weed too) and young black men who are gunned down for no obvious reason (Walter Scott, Oscar Grant, John Crawford III, Sean Bell e.t.c.).

A country where a high profile individual running for the Republican party presidential nomination can openly call all Mexicans in the US rapists.

Please do not trivialise the real sufferings of millions of people in the US just because you managed to secure a visa for a whirlwind 10 day visit.

Shaking my head for some people. angry souls like you need compassion. ICA had to go check out your profile. I pass. No comment

Well I do agreed to some but not all the 4 and 10 is not tru, do u realizeh how u have to work hard before u can make that one dollar and besides cheap one dollars pizza come with cheap ingredient and u will blame urselfa after eating it.T thou it can only buy a can of soda or a little bottle of water...but not in all the cite of New York one dollar is valuable, one dollar in Manhattan is useless bro.

No 10, is not right like u said "NOTHINGi IS FREE IN AMERICA" so bro don't think the gave u the water for free it's already added to ur bill but u won't know and they won't tell u, most restaurantc change for water no matter how little and since have been living in this country I have never witnessed discount for free what.

cap28:


They are not the same thing, bro.

I know many igbos who attend military and federal government colleges in the north, no-one treated them differently because they were Igbo.

One of my good friends attended the Nigerian Military School in Zaria and never had any problems there.

On the other hand i know many black people who attended white elite schools in the US and the UK that had serious problems simply because of the colour of their skin.

Fallacy u ve believed as result of delusion. So Igbos should be treated differently in Naij military? How of ur Igbo friends were saved when Islamic fundamentalist started sectarian riot in the north?!

anonimi:


Thanks.

So why blame the white system for (mainly) our own woes?

How can we make these successful drug dealers, athletes, artistes understand the need to make their own community better by sowing into it as the whites do

There's a lot at play here and at the end of the day, Blacks (AA, Africans, Carribeans.. all African descendants) allow themselves to be played. whites will make instant judgements based on what they believe is your race and this ideology has been meddled into every social order they created or control. They are not protesting to bring an end to this. The world's neediness to be politically correct has only pushed their culture of hate more underground. When their hate reappears we see events like crazy white boys going into schools or church shooting anyone black... AA, African or Carribean (they're not trying to distinguish accents). Their Police remain suspecting a person of color is guilty of a crime when white people are just a culpable of crime.. this is only a small window into the magnitude of their hatred and it certainly impacts people. in fairness, they've been like this for centuries, at least the American ones have.

To answer "How can we make these successful drug dealers, athletes, artistes understand the need to make their own community better by sowing into it as the whites do ? ??"

When I learned about African slavery, I often thought to myself, "what made Africans remain slaves for so long, in many cases they outnumbered their white slavemaster, 100:1, and black people today want to get tough in my face being mad".. only part of the answer lies in the reality that Blacks unconsciously taught the slavery to their next generation who ultimately accepted their place. It wasnt considered horrible slavery to the slaves like we see it today because at least to them they had food, shelter, water, and a sense of security. Today this is the trap many Black people EVERYWHERE still fall into except the reward has evolved, especially when it comes to white people and their jobs, money, education, religion, etc etc etc. They dont see it as slavery, proudly playing along, thinking a person like me is a reverse racist for calling it for what it is. Convincing the drug dealers, the black student, the black crook politicians, the evil black man every where of this is only the beginning of raising awareness for the need of a communal effort. Goodluck! this is part of the reason why we're so behind and slavery still remains imo.

Learning the gory details of slavery will help you learn a lot about white Americans and Black people and the extremes Blacks will go to when they think they need to survive. It's laughable seeing this same behavior in Black people today and they dont see themselves as slaves either.

cap28:
No you will remain a scumbag because you are so full of self loathing. How can you say that we have never invented anything in this world when it has been proven time and time again that the Greeks copied everything they learnt from Egyptians who were pure black African people? How were we existing before the white man invaded our continent and truncated our development, have you ever asked yourself this question? Why are our artefacts sitting in the British museum on display?

How do you think a parent will feel if his child in secondary school is carrying LAST in the class and each time he reminds his parent how he used to pass very well in primary one

Is that not parallel to what you are saying?


I am not self loathing otherwise I will not be keen about realistically discussing how to improve our lot with the necessary individual and group sacrifice to be out of our seemingly permanent scumbag status, not so

architez:


Bro, all jokes aside, America is not even in the same world as 9ja. If USA is considered 1st world, then 9ja should be considered more like 40th world, not 3rd world. Thats just the truth.

Looool. I know man. Jx playing around.


I no mind crash 1week for embassy just to collect visa oo

pappilo:
The poster is extremly daft for the racism bit. I read that and didnt bother to read the rest.

How can a slowpoke spend a couple of days in a state and say racism is exaggerated? Go and tell that to all the minorities living in section 8 concrete jungles, the young black men who are never given a chance as they are criminalized from ages as early as 12 for smoking weed(Obama smoked weed too) and young black men who are gunned down for no obvious reason (Walter Scott, Oscar Grant, John Crawford III, Sean Bell e.t.c.).

A country where a high profile individual running for the Republican party presidential nomination can openly call all Mexicans in the US rapists.

Please do not trivialise the real sufferings of millions of people in the US just because you managed to secure a visa for a whirlwind 10 day visit.

America needs to implement stricter law for gun control.

People are being shot everyday. Racism is still high in America.

anonimi:


How do you think a parent will feel if his child in secondary school is carrying LAST in the class and each time he reminds his parent how he used to pass very well in primary one

Is that not parallel to what you are saying?


I am not self loathing otherwise I will not be keen about realistically discussing how to improve our lot with the necessary individual and group sacrifice to be out of our seemingly ermanent scumbag status, not so

Who is the parent in this scenario? I hope its not the white man who has orchestrated all of our current problems
The world we live in is not as black and white as you see it.

Just having the desire to progress is not enough, you have to have the military might to protect yourself from your enemies, its not enough for us as a nation so say ok lets industrialise or lets diversify our economy, we have to be able to prevent our country from being overrun by our enemies and right now we are not in a position to protect ourselves. So even if we decided to kick out the multinationals from Nigeria and overhaul our entire socio economic structure we would be earmarked for destruction by the US and Europe as their economic success is dependant on our economic failure.

Good experience

DeeTus:
America needs to implement stricter law for gun control.

People are being shot everyday. Racism is still high in America.

where is racism higher US or UK?

omonnakoda:
I like to engage with people who can reason and articulate an argument logically not just throw up a verbigeration as a substitute. So what if a black man becomes president does that mean there is no longer racism ? We are talking about America so there is ethnic bashing in Nigeria what does the one have to do with the other. If you do not know the history of blacks in America go and study before coming here to talk rubbish. No one has said people should not take responsibility for themselves but find out the history before talking "jazz" . Black people went to segregated schools only a generation ago which of course were badly funded. During the slave period black men were not allowed to be fathers to their children who belonged to the owners and were often removed so for several generations black people had no famlly life and no models of that and when slavery ended they had the worst of it. So it is no surprise that black in America tend to marry less often than other folks and having children with often no father figure. Black people die earlier and and have worse health .The system is loaded against them and only a small number break out. If you are a black man in America before the age of 20 more than one person you know will be killed etc . So please before you open your ignorant smug mouth next time try and learn more about the subject
Does religion sell more in Africa than in the US or the Arab world?

he is only making his points atleast the guy wasnt insultive...take it easy...manners pls...........#typical african that does not understand the right of others to have a different view...another black problem

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cityAdventures:


True dat

Bro, I just sent you a pm. Want to know what you're take will be on a situation. Kindly reply asap. Thanks.

cap28:
Who is the parent in this scenario? I hope its not the white man who has orchestrated all of our current problems.

No.
The parent is a black person also who is concerned about the FAILURE of his group/child that keeps blabbing about some old, lost glory that he did not research himself and does not even have the technology to even keep/maintain the monuments and artifacts
Quite useless, not so

Just having the desire to progress is not enough, you have to have the military might to protect yourself from your enemies, its not enough for us as a nation so say ok lets industrialise or lets diversify our economy, we have to be able to prevent our country from being overrun by our enemies and right now we are not in a position to protect ourselves. So even if we decided to kick out the multinationals from Nigeria and overhaul our entire socio economic structure we would be earmarked for destruction by the US and Europe as their economic success is dependant on our economic failure.

You make me laugh seriously with your perpetual victim mentality that leads nowhere

But just to indulge you, how do you think we can develop as Africans/black people given the scenario you painted with the limitations enumerated and the "conspiracy" of the US and Europe to prevent our economic success- something they did not/ could not do for the Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Japanese etc

Agree with Most .. No.2 is not that true. Several hotels are B n B (Bed n Breakfast) - Try Marriot at the Houston airport sha

cityAdventures:




Source: http://www.intercityadventures.com/20-things-i-discovered-while-travelling-across-america/

nothing is free in America cos d means to make money is in place already ...... I stil wil lov to earn and pay than nt to earn a lot and eat free....

Moustache:
Bonanza!!! Space 4 sale....OFFER VALID WHILE STOCK LAST

How does one buy space, or is it a joke?

asha80:
where is racism higher US or UK?

I'm talking about the US and not the UK.

hamzeiy:


he is only making his points atleast the guy wasnt insultive...take it easy...manners pls...........#typical african that does not understand the right of others to have a different view...another black problem

Blindness strike your mother. You are crazy and cancer will never leave your house. Go and teach your mother manners oloribruku

Bruhh the racist stuff you said is true but the rest?? Lol if you rich trust me you'll enjoy here... Never say there's nothing here bruhh there's everything you can ever dream of... Stop using your broke ass experience to speak here....

https://www.nairaland.com/2438294/disadvantages-obodo-oyibo-aka-abroad

Check this out.

iyknaz:
Probably the most intelligent thread I've read. Very educative!

omonnakoda:
Blindness strike your mother. You are crazy and cancer will never leave your house. Go and teach your mother manners oloribruku

And when they call us primitive, lawless jungle dwellers you will say na lie

anonimi:


And when they call us primitive, lawless jungle dwellers you will say na lie

"us"? You and ..............

are you an orphan?

He sha better pass Niger

cap28:
Firstly, the casualties of both wars were far more than 10 million, Russia alone lost over 22 million of its own people in the second world war.

Thanks for pointing out my error in the casualty number for both wars. I have updated my post as needed.
Cheers.

AAinEqGuinea:


There's a lot at play here and at the end of the day, Blacks (AA, Africans, Carribeans.. all African descendants) allow themselves to be played. whites will make instant judgements based on what they believe is your race and this ideology has been meddled into every social order they created or control. They are not protesting to bring an end to this. The world's neediness to be politically correct has only pushed their culture of hate more underground. When their hate reappears we see events like crazy white boys going into schools or church shooting anyone black... AA, African or Carribean (they're not trying to distinguish accents). Their Police remain suspecting a person of color is guilty of a crime when white people are just a culpable of crime.. this is only a small window into the magnitude of their hatred and it certainly impacts people. in fairness, they've been like this for centuries, at least the American ones have.

To answer "How can we make these successful drug dealers, athletes, artistes understand the need to make their own community better by sowing into it as the whites do ? ??"

When I learned about African slavery, I often thought to myself, "what made Africans remain slaves for so long, in many cases they outnumbered their white slavemaster, 100:1, and black people today want to get tough in my face being mad".. only part of the answer lies in the reality that Blacks unconsciously taught the slavery to their next generation who ultimately accepted their place. It wasnt considered horrible slavery to the slaves like we see it today because at least to them they had food, shelter, water, and a sense of security. Today this is the trap many Black people EVERYWHERE still fall into except the reward has evolved, especially when it comes to white people and their jobs, money, education, religion, etc etc etc. They dont see it as slavery, proudly playing along, thinking a person like me is a reverse racist for calling it for what it is. Convincing the drug dealers, the black student, the black crook politicians, the evil black man every where of this is only the beginning of raising awareness for the need of a communal effort. Goodluck! this is part of the reason why we're so behind and slavery still remains imo.

Learning the gory details of slavery will help you learn a lot about white Americans and Black people and the extremes Blacks will go to when they think they need to survive. It's laughable seeing this same behavior in Black people today and they dont see themselves as slaves either.

Thank you very much for this. While I was reading some books on slavery, I read that the abolition of slave trade in America didn't actually go well with some of the blacks themselves because they're used to being owned. Going out their to fend for themselves was even a bigger risk to them, so they whined and cried when they were freed. The feeling of dependency is actually the root cause of what is happening to the AA's. Generations later and they haven't actually been freed of the shackles of mental slavery.

anonimi:


No.
The parent is a black person also who is concerned about the FAILURE of his group/child that keeps blabbing about some old, lost glory that he did not research himself and does not even have the technology to even keep/maintain the monuments and artifacts
Quite useless, not so

So valuing your history is "blabbing about your lost glory" smdh! Ever heard the quote: a man who does not know his history is doomed to repeat it?

Are you aware that on many western tv stations they dedicate entire channels to documentaries about their history - why do you think they do this?- are these countries using these documentaries to "blabb about their lost glory"

Ive learnt so much about british history from just watching their history channel and i find these documentaries highly educational, i also realise the function of these documentaries - they instill nationalistic pride in the minds of the british people and promote unity and cohesiveness, something that is drastically lacking in Nigeria.

You make me laugh seriously with your perpetual victim mentality that leads nowhere

But just to indulge you, how do you think we can develop as Africans/black people given the scenario you painted with the limitations enumerated and the "conspiracy" of the US and Europe to prevent our economic success- something they did not/ could not do for the Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Japanese etc

Were you also laughing when Libya and Ivory Coast were bombed by NATO or are you so removed from reality that you think that its impossible for the same thing to happen to Nigeria.

The only way we have a chance to develop is if we forge closer ties to China anything short of that will mean that we must remain on the IMF world bank plantation which has already condemned 80% of our population to a life of endless misery and suffering.

anonimi:


Thanks for pointing out my error in the casualty number for both wars. I have updated my post as needed.
Cheers.

no worries

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samuelkingz:
very very educative...mods...do d needful ...fp tins.... Modified... Finally made it to front page...hmm..na small small till i reach ftc:::: Godwin

But it is miseducation. This write-up is so full of MISINFORMATION, I don't know where to start. This person obviously has never lived in USA. It's like a tourist writing about 9ja. The American president is by far the most powerful person in the WORLD (just check out air force one or the preparations b4 he visits anywhere). 9ja copied the American presidential system. Some goversors (eg Texas) have little power. The mayor of NYC has more power than most governors. If the US were to open it's borders just for one day, the world will overrun the country - it is not only 9jas. The visa lottery is because certain countries like Mexico and China bring all the immigrants, the intent is to have some diversity, to give other countries a chance. ETC, ETC.

cap28:
So valuing your history is "blabbing about your lost glory" smdh! Ever heard the quote: a man who does not know his history is doomed to repeat it?

What you are doing is not valuing history but rather hanging to it as an excuse/justification/alibi for present day lethargy.
The quote is "A man who does not LEARN from his history.
You see learning goes beyond valuing. It is about knowing how far people moved/progressed in the past to encourage movement into the future. Big difference.
For example, if one understands that our African ancestors moved from using stones to iron for cutting things, then one can be inspired to improve on what one has today, not so

The only way we have a chance to develop is if we forge closer ties to China anything short of that will mean that we must remain on the IMF world bank plantation which has already condemned 80% of our population to a life of endless misery and suffering.

But the Chinese aligned with the West to develop to where they are today, not so
Do we know the sacrifices they made to come so far?
Are we ready to make similar sacrifice to forge ahead?