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Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by harizonal123(m): 11:29pm On Jul 15, 2015
ogheneoreva:
My name is OrevaOghene.I am an Urhobo with an Anang mother.I felt obliged to key in on the debate of South South and the Biafran cause.
I am currently an undergraduate of Economics at the university of uyo.Let me state that my argument is due to economic considerations and not political.

Let me begin by correcting the dichotomy between the South South and South East-they are merely political zones. There are Igbos in Ogwashukwu in Delta,Asaba has an obi....the Governor is even Igbo.That's Delta.
In Rivers state a place known as obIGBO,there is very little difference between an Etche an Aba persons.....Even the current Governor likens himself to Ojukwu.That's Rivers state
In Akwa Ibom where I school the Annang once answered oka for -my maternal grandfather explained that its because of the civil war that they stopped using such names..due to the advancing Nigerian troops..The average Ibibio is more money conscious and cunning. The tortoise is the folklore hero in both cultures.


So I wish to plead forthwith to stop using the term South South...... It doesn't exist. The term Niger Delta and Biafran is more attuned to our cause.The term South is another divide and conquer method by the born to rule.


My uncle ran from Borno last year September he still spends his days talking of how evil the Hausa people are....A story of his that made me shiver is that of an Ibibio woman Abasifreke Asuquo(her soul rest in peace).She mistakenly used a piece of paper to clean her baby's anus ...that paper turned out to be a Qur'an. The woman was butchered and the baby's anus was Pierced with a stick that came out of his mouth. Are they humans at all...to cap it all they moved with the Pierced baby around the neighborhood. Despite the pleading of her relatives and the local Ibibio community.

I don't want to live with such barbarism. Not in the same country at least.



The Igbo man is after success so am I ..and so are we.For over 40 years they have done nothing successful.
They say Jonathan is corrupt.. Come to Rivers state and see what the money is doing..... The oil is even ours.
This same Buhari was serving as PTF chairman when Kenule Beesom Sarowiwa was killed by Abacha.And still insists that Abacha never stole.



Well to conclude the average Niger Deltan has resigned his fate that nothing can change.. That he will continue in poverty while wealth is tapped from under his soil.
And whoever says Asari is a nobody in The Niger Delta is to be ignored... Every body in the South knows and loves that man.He is our hero...so if it's to be Biafra.... Let it be....




Let me state most importantly that I don't believe in human government or it's promises........ This post is merely to end to the SE/SS political Dichotomy...... Thanks and have a pleasant day
We don't even refer to the anioma's as "Igbos" in the first place. U also said ur name is orevaoghene. Sorry my dear, the urhobos don't bear such name
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Nobody: 11:53pm On Jul 15, 2015
Omololu007:
i dont giv a fvck if ibos hav dis dia biafra or not guy,i dont giv a Bleep if d whole of d north central and south south is part of biafra,i dont even fink about it...i dont just lik d comment d guy made about we Niger deltans,let him speak for himsef,for me i will mak it in dis Nigeria as a Niger deltan
all I SMEll is South West.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Nobody: 12:07am On Jul 16, 2015
WombRaiders:
I don't know why Yorubas want to woo us.

We did not even vote one single broom wielding politician in the ND unlike the Ignis of IMO who fell for the APC scam.

I believe Yorubas have a common political ground with Ibos as can be seen in IMO state but in the Niger Delta there has never been anytime in history that we aligned with the Yorubas or Ibos.

PDP has been in power since 1999 in Niger Delta and that won't change anytime soon.
rochas made it into the governorship post with apga n not APC. he decamped to APC alongside Amechi n their likes.

IMO people have grown to hate him today. he won reelection because of massive rigging.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Rose2014: 12:31am On Jul 16, 2015
Candyrain:
Sometime I just wonder why he can't just stay off Biafra's thread. Maybe we just need to assure him that the oil in Ondo won't go with us when we go back to Biafra. I think that's his fear.

My day was good. Tiring and annoying though. How was yours swthrt?
Eiyaa who make u vex? Just give me their phone number cool
My day had some ups and downs but #Godwin#
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by OreMI22: 1:29am On Jul 16, 2015
[size=15pt]When it comes to BIAFRA, the Yorubas and Hausa/Fulanis are the WORST hypocrites.

They bitterly hate the Igbos and indeed the southern minorities and would want them to leave Lagos etc and go stay in their own country!

But in contradiction to their true feelings, they don't want Biafra because they want to perpetuate their right to collect the lion share of the oil resources sourced from the same peoples land, using the bogus criteria they foisted on the country called Nigeria.

Without oil in Igboland and Southern minorities part of Nigeria, Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani would have long seceded from Nigeria. FACT!

I know just like me, many of our people are not 100% convinced Biafra is the answer, while many others already are.

Therefore, we should agitate for a UN sponsored referendum on the Biafra issue .
Northern Ireland fought the British for 30 years for the independence of Northern Ireland, but the referendum proved that majority of the people wanted to stay in the UK. Likewise, the South Sudan's referendum proved majority of South Sudanese wanted to be in their own country.

Therefore, a United Nations sponsored referendum should be the demand to see if majority of our people support independence or to stay in Nigeria.[/size]
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Candyrain(m): 6:10am On Jul 16, 2015
Omololu007:
so are u sayin edo,akwa ibom and cross river wont b part of dis biafra grin,d guy is not even speakin for all d tribes in delta,i dont fink an itsekiri man would wanna b part of d Niger delta
The term Niger Delta as we have it now is used to designate oil producing state. As I mentioned earlier the real Niger Delta states are Bayelsa, Delta and Rivers. Google is there to educate you about Niger Delta.

NB: All SS will most likely join Biafra but not all Niger Deltan will join.

Does this statement clear it up for you? The agitation for Biafra isn't going to force anyone or people to be part of it. It's a FREE WILL thing.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Candyrain(m): 6:22am On Jul 16, 2015
Omololu007:
guy u keep talkin lik an 1diot,shey u just dey form king kong because u see person wey dey bear rose or wot? Nairaland is owned by a Nigerian,if u wanna talk about biafra n nobody will disturb u,mayb u should create ur own forum..but for Nairaland,i will comment on any topic i feel lik
Am I surprised at this your name calling? Umm... NO. I would stick with Rose2014 anytime anyday because all she's said is nothing but truth and another thing is that she's a sweet lady. So if you are vexed about it I'll advise you grab a glass of chilled water.
I won't thread the same path of name calling with you. You already shown it to everyone that it's your trade mark "™".
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Candyrain(m): 6:31am On Jul 16, 2015
Rose2014:
Eiyaa who make u vex? Just give me their phone number cool
My day had some ups and downs but #Godwin#
No one vexed me dear. I had somethings I was supposed to do with my pc but I couldn't. It's misbehaving and freezing and I was told I would have to format it. I trust only one person who handles my pc and he said I'll have to wait till Saturday. So I have to wait.

Good morning sweetness.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Omololu007(m): 6:41am On Jul 16, 2015
Candyrain:
The term Niger Delta as we have it now is used to designate oil producing state. As I mentioned earlier the real Niger Delta states are Bayelsa, Delta and Rivers. Google is there to educate you about Niger Delta.

NB: All SS will most likely join Biafra but not all Niger Deltan will join.
everybody knows d history of d Niger delta,so u cant tell me about it.as at now d oil producin state are d present Niger delta in Nigeria.anytin els from dat is bullsh1t..biafra should b for ibos alone,infact it should b called republic of alaibogrin cos i dont fink biafra has any meanin in ibo.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Omololu007(m): 6:46am On Jul 16, 2015
Candyrain:
Obasanjo made you a Niger Deltan becos Ondo became one of the oil producing states. The Niger Deltans being referred to here are the Core Niger Deltans (Bayelsa, Rivers and Delta States).
what do u mean by obj made me a Niger deltan? Was d Niger delta eva a united kingdom under a single ruler? D Niger delta was created by d british,so i dont see anytin wrong in obj xpandin d Niger delta
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Omololu007(m): 6:54am On Jul 16, 2015
modhream:
It is not.
Stop confusing NDDC states or states of the geopolitical contraption for Niger delta
the NDDC is made up of Niger deltan state.dats y kingsley kuku from ondo state can head d NDDC which also include bayelsa,rivers and delta
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by tonychristopher: 7:35am On Jul 16, 2015
DiademSh07:
The Op is tony christopher who claimed to be married to an ukwuani woman, has an ikwere uncle and now, an urhobo man!
Ibo and lies!
Ikechukwu, the dunce nonaira/onenaira, where are you at?
ewu ...grow up
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by EastLebanon(m): 8:11am On Jul 16, 2015
As it is i don't like the way things are going on in nigeria,even though it's only ANAMBRA STATE that accepts biafra and the rest such as akwa ibom,ebonyi,enugu,cross river and imo state did not accept it non of my business,because ANAMBRA STATE alone forming a nation will be better than lots of large nations as it is now ANAMBRA is one of the most developed states in nigeria and currently has the lowest poverty rate and also the most of the prominent people in the history of nigeria e.g zik,achebe,ngozi adichie,nwafor orise,louis ojukwu,o ojukwu,chike obi and so many of them.ANAMBRA STATE alone can make a nation,landmass is not a barrier.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by EastLebanon(m): 8:12am On Jul 16, 2015
As it is i don't like the way things are going on in nigeria,even though it's only ANAMBRA STATE that accepts biafra and the rest such as akwa ibom,ebonyi,enugu,cross river and imo state did not accept it's non of my business,because ANAMBRA STATE alone forming a nation will be better than lots of large nations as it is now ANAMBRA is one of the most developed states in nigeria and currently has the lowest poverty rate and also the most of the prominent people in the history of nigeria e.g zik,achebe,ngozi adichie,nwafor orise,louis ojukwu,o ojukwu,chike obi and so many of them.ANAMBRA STATE alone can make a nation,landmass is not a barrier.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by DiademSh07: 10:03am On Jul 16, 2015
Aniekpeno11:
bro i am a full blooded ibibio man just becoz of a typin error doesnt make me any less of an akwa ibomite and besides i believe its awka that is the igbo town and not akwa (wen looking out for errors u should first check urself). that is d problem u tend to see ur selves as high ends while others are notin. I BEG YOU WITH GOD LEAVE AKWA IBOM OUT OF YOUR MAP
You dey mind that dunce? Onenaira a.k.a ikechukwu/nonaira is the dumbest ibo ever!
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Rose2014: 10:23am On Jul 16, 2015
Candyrain:
No one vexed me dear. I had somethings I was supposed to do with my pc but I couldn't. It's misbehaving and freezing and I was told I would have to format it. I trust only one person who handles my pc and he said I'll have to wait till Saturday. So I have to wait.

Good morning sweetness.
Saturday is not far again pls. Also prepare your mind that the guy may not finish working on d PC same day, so u may have to wait till Monday. The way we depend on these gadgets eh. I remember the night my phone refused to charge, chai it was like the world just passed n left me behind embarassed . Yet our parents that didn't have any of these still lived happily.smh


Honey patience is a virtue and a fruit of d spirit. No vex again u hear?

Good morning sunshine
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Rose2014: 10:27am On Jul 16, 2015
Candyrain:
Am I surprised at this your name calling? Umm... NO. I would stick with Rose2014 anytime anyday because all she's said is nothing but truth and another thing is that she's a sweet lady. So if you are vexed about it I'll advise you grab a glass of chilled water.
I won't thread the same path of name calling with you. You already shown it to everyone that it's your trade mark "™".
Pls stop wasting your time on the SS wannabe

Where on the map of Biafra did he see Ondo state? cheesy
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by kernel504(m): 10:35am On Jul 16, 2015
ogheneoreva:
My name is OrevaOghene.I am an Urhobo with an Anang mother.I felt obliged to key in on the debate of South South and the Biafran cause.
I am currently an undergraduate of Economics at the university of uyo.Let me state that my argument is due to economic considerations and not political.

Let me begin by correcting the dichotomy between the South South and South East-they are merely political zones. There are Igbos in Ogwashukwu in Delta,Asaba has an obi....the Governor is even Igbo.That's Delta.
In Rivers state a place known as obIGBO,there is very little difference between an Etche an Aba persons.....Even the current Governor likens himself to Ojukwu.That's Rivers state
In Akwa Ibom where I school the Annang once answered oka for -my maternal grandfather explained that its because of the civil war that they stopped using such names..due to the advancing Nigerian troops..The average Ibibio is more money conscious and cunning. The tortoise is the folklore hero in both cultures.


So I wish to plead forthwith to stop using the term South South...... It doesn't exist. The term Niger Delta and Biafran is more attuned to our cause.The term South is another divide and conquer method by the born to rule.


My uncle ran from Borno last year September he still spends his days talking of how evil the Hausa people are....A story of his that made me shiver is that of an Ibibio woman Abasifreke Asuquo(her soul rest in peace).She mistakenly used a piece of paper to clean her baby's anus ...that paper turned out to be a Qur'an. The woman was butchered and the baby's anus was Pierced with a stick that came out of his mouth. Are they humans at all...to cap it all they moved with the Pierced baby around the neighborhood. Despite the pleading of her relatives and the local Ibibio community.

I don't want to live with such barbarism. Not in the same country at least.



The Igbo man is after success so am I ..and so are we.For over 40 years they have done nothing successful.
They say Jonathan is corrupt.. Come to Rivers state and see what the money is doing..... The oil is even ours.
This same Buhari was serving as PTF chairman when Kenule Beesom Sarowiwa was killed by Abacha.And still insists that Abacha never stole.



Well to conclude the average Niger Deltan has resigned his fate that nothing can change.. That he will continue in poverty while wealth is tapped from under his soil.
And whoever says Asari is a nobody in The Niger Delta is to be ignored... Every body in the South knows and loves that man.He is our hero...so if it's to be Biafra.... Let it be....




Let me state most importantly that I don't believe in human government or it's promises........ This post is merely to end to the SE/SS political Dichotomy...... Thanks and have a pleasant day
Thanks for the insight, we are brothers... I will henceforth ensure that.
#BiafraNigerDelta
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by sweetgala(m): 10:46am On Jul 16, 2015
Your first paragraph and your post are in severe conflict, you had no economic motive or argument in your piece
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by kernel504(m): 10:47am On Jul 16, 2015
ogheneoreva:
Omolulu......you don't know what it means to be colonized.... The Niger Delta is nothing but a colony of Nigeria....

Don't stay in Lagos and dictate what's best for us....thanks and God bless you
The land called Lagos State was developed by Niger Delta Oil, yet you have the gut to speak. Oil from Ogbomoso should have been used.
To prove that fact your states are saprofiles, Oil price dropped Osun had to depend on aids from people like Ben Bruce wardrobe allowance to feed her citizens.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Candyrain(m): 11:24am On Jul 16, 2015
Rose2014:
Pls stop wasting your time on the SS wannabe
Where on the map of Biafra did he see Ondo state? cheesy
I'm done with him dear except he brings on a reasonable argument.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Candyrain(m): 11:37am On Jul 16, 2015
Rose2014:
Saturday is not far again pls. Also prepare your mind that the guy may not finish working on d PC same day, so u may have to wait till Monday. The way we depend on these gadgets eh. I remember the night my phone refused to charge, chai it was like the world just passed n left me behind embarassed . Yet our parents that didn't have any of these still lived happily.smh


Honey patience is a virtue and a fruit of d spirit. No vex again u hear?

Good morning sunshine
Lolz... Yea right. I know that feeling. Well our parents lived without it because they never knew what it was then. Just as you said "Patience is a virtue" I'll hold on to that.
Thanks sweet.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jul 16, 2015
onenaira3:
Still desperately attache. You people are very pathetic. Mr. "Akwa" with only three post and all on this thread. Dumbass. Tufikwa for you yoloba children of satan
Why d insults now? did i insult u? also wat is wrong if my 1st post is on dis thread? why don't you want to accept dat Akwa Ibom doesnt want to be part of biafra? may be u want me to speak my language before u agree dat i am not yoruba, if i do dat will u help me tel ur pple to leave akwa ibom out of biafra map? it really bothers me why u have to take to insults just because others dont share your idea. is this how you intend to treat opposin idealogy if biafra becomes a reality. dah! mbok nyeme biafra
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by tonychristopher: 12:17pm On Jul 19, 2015
DiademSh07:
The Op is tony christopher who claimed to be married to an ukwuani woman, has an ikwere uncle and now, an urhobo man!
Ibo and lies!
Ikechukwu, the dunce nonaira/onenaira, where are you at?
you stupidity is pristine
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by franconian:
ogheneoreva:
My name is OrevaOghene.I am an Urhobo with an Anang mother.I felt obliged to key in on the debate of South South and the Biafran cause.
I am currently an undergraduate of Economics at the university of uyo.Let me state that my argument is due to economic considerations and not political.

Let me begin by correcting the dichotomy between the South South and South East-they are merely political zones. There are Igbos in Ogwashukwu in Delta,Asaba has an obi....the Governor is even Igbo.That's Delta.
In Rivers state a place known as obIGBO,there is very little difference between an Etche an Aba persons.....Even the current Governor likens himself to Ojukwu.That's Rivers state
In Akwa Ibom where I school the Annang once answered oka for -my maternal grandfather explained that its because of the civil war that they stopped using such names..due to the advancing Nigerian troops..The average Ibibio is more money conscious and cunning. The tortoise is the folklore hero in both cultures.


So I wish to plead forthwith to stop using the term South South...... It doesn't exist. The term Niger Delta and Biafran is more attuned to our cause.The term South is another divide and conquer method by the born to rule.


My uncle ran from Borno last year September he still spends his days talking of how evil the Hausa people are....A story of his that made me shiver is that of an Ibibio woman Abasifreke Asuquo(her soul rest in peace).She mistakenly used a piece of paper to clean her baby's anus ...that paper turned out to be a Qur'an. The woman was butchered and the baby's anus was Pierced with a stick that came out of his mouth. Are they humans at all...to cap it all they moved with the Pierced baby around the neighborhood. Despite the pleading of her relatives and the local Ibibio community.

I don't want to live with such barbarism. Not in the same country at least.



The Igbo man is after success so am I ..and so are we.For over 40 years they have done nothing successful.
They say Jonathan is corrupt.. Come to Rivers state and see what the money is doing..... The oil is even ours.
This same Buhari was serving as PTF chairman when Kenule Beesom Sarowiwa was killed by Abacha.And still insists that Abacha never stole.



Well to conclude the average Niger Deltan has resigned his fate that nothing can change.. That he will continue in poverty while wealth is tapped from under his soil.
And whoever says Asari is a nobody in The Niger Delta is to be ignored... Every body in the South knows and loves that man.He is our hero...so if it's to be Biafra.... Let it be....




Let me state most importantly that I don't believe in human government or it's promises........ This post is merely to end to the SE/SS political Dichotomy...... Thanks and have a pleasant day
OP, I read your post with the hope of finding reasons why an Urhobo would be a proponent of Biafra. I'm not sure if you gave one.

First, you said you are Oreva, to the best of my knowledge, Oreva is not an Urhobo name. It's an Isoko name.


Oreva, you should know that Delta has many ethnic groups, of which the Anioma(Delta-Ibos) is just one of them. This post would have been more acceptable if it was from a Delta-Ibo.


The fact that Urhobo shares the same state with the Ibos does not make an Urhoboman an Iboman.

They call themselves the "indigenous people of Biafra". The IPOB never thought of including Urhobo in their struggle untill they realized they would need their "brothers" to win the struggle. They will only use and dump you.

Listen to me my brother, when it comes to political matters, an Ibo man refers to another iboman from Delta as a fake Iboman, how much an Urhoboman?

If you are truly an Urhoboman, I wouldn't doubt your abilities when it comes to accommodating strangers politically or otherwise, but you should know that the Ibos are very different.


You may not be happy with Nigeria, but joining the Ibos to agitate for Biafra would b a great disservice to yourself and to your unborn kids.
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by vega84(m): 6:53am On Oct 15, 2015
Very well spoken ! I can see that senseable people are in this nairaland after all . #vegatalks# #the zoo must fall#reject hausa/faulani rule
Re: On South South And Biafra.. An Urhobo's View by vega84(m): 6:58am On Oct 15, 2015
franconian:
OP, I read your post with the hope of finding reasons why an Urhobo would be a proponent of Biafra. I'm not sure if you gave one.

First, you said you are Oreva, to the best of my knowledge, Oreva is not an Urhobo name. It's an Isoko name.


Oreva, your should know that Delta has many ethnic groups, of which the Anioma(Delta-Ibos) is just one of the many tribes. This post would have been more acceptable if it was from a Delta-Ibo. Speak fr urself st.upid bigot ! No body is forcing anybody to join,wen the time comes we shall all knw. Cowards! #vegatalks


The fact that Urhobo shares the same state with the Ibos does not make an Urhoboman an Iboman.

They call themselves the "indigenous people of Biafra". The IPOB never thought of including Urhobo in their struggle untill they realized they would need their "brothers" to win the struggle. They will only use and dump you.

Listen to me my brother, when it comes to political matters, an Ibo man refers to another iboman from Delta as a fake Iboman, how much an Urhoboman?

If you are truly an Urhoboman, I wouldn't doubt your abilities when it comes to accommodating strangers politically or otherwise, but you should know that the Ibos are very different.


Have you heard of Radio Biafra? Is it transmitted in a language you understand? Take a clue from these things, they are not on the same page with you.

You may not be happy with Nigeria, but joining the ibos to agitate for Biafra would b a great disservice to yourself and to your unborn kids.
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