Abiola1016. Prices of feeds vary based on brands & location. Growers go for between #1850 & #2300; Layers between #2200 & #2500. IMO, there is no "best" brand. The stage of growth/life of the birds determine the brand I feed them with. You may wish to consider these in no particular order; Livestock, Vital, Amo Bygn, Top & Animal Care. You can reduce the cost per bag by between #200 & #500 depending on the method you adopt. For example, you can save about #200/bag by mixing concentrates with grounded maize & wheat offal from Golden Penny. You can save up to #500/bag by substituting wheat offal with rice bran. NOTE: the figures are based on 25kg bags of feeds. Finally, the quantity of feeds to be consumed by 1200 birds will be determined by their age. 18 weeks + birds will consume six 25kg bags of feeds daily or a little less. Success.

Thanks for the quick response.... is it cheaper to produce local feed? Like how much is the standard price to produce a 50kg local feed? Standard meaning with just standard ingredients

Abiola1016. I thought my response was explicit enough for you to glean all the answers you needed. As to whether it's cheaper to make your own feeds; yes, it should be depending own where & in what quantity you source the components/ingredients. However, your overriding concern should be quality at the most cost effective price rather than cheap prices.

Eggcelent:
obstead200. I don't believe we do selective response to enquiries here. In your case, the answers you seek can be found in previous pages. So you're advised to go through them. Meanwhile, in summary, answers to your questions are; unless your pen is in a flood prone area, then 2 coaches of block is just enough. davidzfarm18 birds suffered from a rare disease which limited their productivity to just about 50% so he had to sell them off to cut his losses.

well am honored to have the almighty prof. eggcelent respond personally to my post. Thanks a lot.

fnk:


Is the eggs for hatching? I want to play with trying to hatch a few eggs and see how it works, for a little over $100 there is an incubator that have the capacity to hatch 48 eggs. I have not looked into parent stock and have no idea how to raise them, Is that what you are doing? I bought 200 layers and 200 cockerel, they are just between 3 and 4 weeks now, but they will be growing together.

Ping, I studies agric but d plant aspect. Now I want to start a very small farm for cockrel only, can I get a details article on how to go abt it. Tho, I av very little idea sha.

hi all, I av 180 old layers for sale in ibadan at a reasonable price...interested person shld notify. thanks

Am having some issues with my 21 weeks layers. some of the birds died today and I decide to do a post mortem diagnosis on the birds, then I discovered some growing tumor on the intestine on one of the birds. This the first time am seeing such a case. Mortality is up to 20 already and I have some weak ones that are still down. Note:they just started dropping 2 week ago.

tunezvic:
Am having some issues with my 21 weeks layers. some of the birds died today and I decide to do a post mortem diagnosis on the birds, then I discovered some growing tumor on the intestine on one of the birds. This the first time am seeing such a case. Mortality is up to 20 already and I have some weak ones that are still down. Note:they just started dropping 2 week ago.

sorry for this ugly incident. but if i may ask, did you missed any of the vaccine/drugs before they reached laying period? are they on deep litter or battery cage?

adebamtech:

sorry for this ugly incident. but if i may ask, did you missed any of the vaccine/drugs before they reached laying period? are they on deep litter or battery cage?

No! ..they are on deep litter, planning to move them to cage by next week. Have been treating them for respiratory disease but it seems they took a new turn today,that was when I discovered the growth of some lump on their intestine..my oga in the house, I need your suggestions.

tunezvic:
Am having some issues with my 21 weeks layers. some of the birds died today and I decide to do a post mortem diagnosis on the birds, then I discovered some growing tumor on the intestine on one of the birds. This the first time am seeing such a case. Mortality is up to 20 already and I have some weak ones that are still down. Note:they just started dropping 2 week ago.

Its well with ur birds.
I hope you did not miss Marek's. Tumour in intestine suggest leucosis group of virus. Lymphoid Leucosis which affected my birds starts from 24th-26th Week and hence ruled out. Marek's could be very dangerous as it slowly kills the birds and what more, the timing.

Unless you take the sample for analysis. you can not rule out Fowl Cholera or Typhoid which you can use Colistine or cyprofloxacin to take care of it.

good morning house, how can I control mosquitoes invasion in my broilers' pen

tosindguy:



Ping, I studies agric but d plant aspect. Now I want to start a very small farm for cockrel only, can I get a details article on how to go abt it. Tho, I av very little idea sha.

Personal, I am not a fan of cockerel, they take time to grow, and even though they look big, when dressed. They look skinny and just Bonny.

Though DOC is pretty cheap, zatech to to us at N10 when I was doing my experiment.

pathology:
good morning house, how can I control mosquitoes invasion in my broilers' pen

How is the surrounding area? Mosquitoes has never been an issue in my broiler pen.

fnk:


I think at some point as much as we can, we will have to invest in our own hatching. For me eventually, I want to be able to mill my own feeds, and hatch my own day olds. I am not talking about large scale, but enough to feed my market, even if I can hatch 1000 DOC every 3 weeks, that will help, I will know the well being of my birds, from eggs to processing. Pricing some of this incubators they are not that expensive, So, one can invest in Parent stock, say 200 birds and raise them to lay eggs for hatching. I am still trying to understand how the hatcheries out there fix their prices, you pay today at N120, and by the time you go there to pick up your birds they can tell you that the price in now N180, and you have to pay the difference and of course some time you get there to pick up and they tell you that the price has dropped to N100, so you use your change to buy more. No one has been able to explain to me the price changes.
So, for me, I think we should be looking at that route of hatching no matter how small to add to what you buy from the commercial hatcheries.

Just my two cents.

. The higher the demand, the higher the price and the lower the demand too, the lower the price too.

Dutch experiment: Feeding live insects to chickens
12746NUTRITION
Dutch feed producer ForFarmers and the Department of Entomology at Wageningen UR, the Netherlands have together launched a trial in which broiler chickens are being fed live insects.
Dutch experiment: Feeding live insects to chickens
Insects are rich in protein. With this trial, both parties want to investigate whether the broiler chicks grow healthy and at the right pace when they receive live insects as an addition to the feed.

The trial is being carried out at the ForFarmers pilot plant in Nijkerk, the Netherlands with 1,000 chicks. The animals are divided in to 4 different groups, allocated 4 different diets.

The parties involved hope to make a positive step forward regarding sustainability by encouraging chickens in their natural behaviour. The first results are expected at the end of September. Even if the results are positive, it will take some time before this feeding regime will be implemented in practice, because its application is fairly costly.

German poultry industry agrees to beak trimming ban
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Beak trimming in the German poultry industry is going to become a thing of the past following the signing of a voluntary agreement which will ban the practice as of 1 January 2017.
German poultry industry agrees to beak trimming ban
The move is a key component of an animal welfare initiative "A question of attitude". Signatories of the pioneering agreement are the Central Association of German Poultry Industry Association, the German Egg Association and the Association of German Turkey Producers and the country's Federal Agriculture Minister Christian Schmidt.

In signing the agreement, the poultry industry has committed to stop beak trimming of layers from 1 August 2016, and to stop stocking pullets with trimmed beaks from 1 January 2017.

"Timely as well as ambitious"

"We are in Germany on the right track to become the EU trendsetter in animal welfare," Schmidt commented on the signing. "The agreement is timely as well as ambitious in comparison to other known initiatives. This is not only a success on the road to more animal welfare, but it also shows that we can achieve a lot with the principle of voluntary commitment."

"Animal welfare is key for guiding of our daily work" said Leo Graf von Drechsel, president of the Central Association of the German poultry industry. "We see ourselves as a constructive partner, we hear very clearly what society thinks and we are proud to have implemented this agreement on a voluntary basis".

Calls for EU-wide harmonisation

Graf Drechsel also made it clear that the waiver of beak trimming needs an enormous effort from the industry, also in financial terms. In order that this 'tour de force' doesn't start a competitive disadvantage for the German egg producers, the industry and government need to support the policy: "We have to promote this topic at European level", said Graf Drechsel calling for EU-wide harmonisation."
by ROSIE BURGIN Jul 17, 2015

Tmex:
. The higher the demand, the higher the price and the lower the demand too, the lower the price too.

Dude! the price different in most cases is too much, look at from N180, to N100, I have seen somethings from N170 to N80. And it also goes the other way round. The difference is just too much. It is either they are loosing a lot of money when they make those changes and or making one heck of money all the time.

fnk:


Dude! the price different in most cases is too much, look at from N180, to N100, I have seen somethings from N170 to N80. And it also goes the other way round. The difference is just too much. It is either they are loosing a lot of money when they make those changes and or making one heck of money all the time.

Cost of production of doc is less than N50.

tunezvic:
Am having some issues with my 21 weeks layers. some of the birds died today and I decide to do a post mortem diagnosis on the birds, then I discovered some growing tumor on the intestine on one of the birds. This the first time am seeing such a case. Mortality is up to 20 already and I have some weak ones that are still down. Note:they just started dropping 2 week ago.

Are there paralysis? On a more serious note , did you gave them mareks vaccine? if yes when was it ?

tunezvic; How far with ur birds? @segun1976:-Hope you are smiling to the bank already.
Great wkend house

fnk:


Dude! the price different in most cases is too much, look at from N180, to N100, I have seen somethings from N170 to N80. And it also goes the other way round. The difference is just too much. It is either they are loosing a lot of money when they make those changes and or making one heck of money all the time.

they make profit even at N80 and tend to maximize the profit once there's an increase in demand,

kelvin96:


Are there paralysis? On a more serious note , did you gave them mareks vaccine? if yes when was it ?

not really paralysis,the symptoms is more of crd. I gave them mareks when they were 2weeks old..

davidzfarm18:
tunezvic; How far with ur birds? @segun1976:-Hope you are smiling to the bank already.
Great wkend house

Thanks to everyone on thiss forum.
God helped us to weather the storm. However production dropped from about 65% to 55%, this iss because we crashed d feed from 100g/bird/day to less than 70g to manage excess fat which we thought was responsible for the mortalities we were experiencing.
Other measure we took include reducing the maize in our feed formulation and adding 1% limestone. The water lines were flushed and litter packing was daily and rescheduled to the evenings.
With all this and a mild treatment of CRD, mortality reduced to an average of 1bird/day.
Egg size reduced but production has started to clim gradually. This batch is about 2c wks and now at 61% production.
We lost 3% of the birds to the crisis but we thank God for His mercies.
We should start smilling to tha bank soonest.

Happy Sunday,
Farmers, please what is the price of layer concentrate in your location?
Animal care cost N3,450 in Ikorodu, Lagos state.

segun1976:

Thanks to everyone on thiss forum.
God helped us to weather the storm. However production dropped from about 65% to 55%, this iss because we crashed d feed from 100g/bird/day to less than 70g to manage excess fat which we thought was responsible for the mortalities we were experiencing.
Other measure we took include reducing the maize in our feed formulation and adding 1% limestone. The water lines were flushed and litter packing was daily and rescheduled to the evenings.
With all this and a mild treatment of CRD, mortality reduced to an average of 1bird/day.
Egg size reduced but production has started to clim gradually. This batch is about 2c wks and now at 61% production.
We lost 3% of the birds to the crisis but we thank God for His mercies.
We should start smilling to tha bank soonest.

@ segun hw did u flush ur water line. Did u use a pressure machine or just manually flushing.

segun1976. Akure - #3490. Owo - #3560.

Eggcelent:
segun1976. Akure - #3490. Owo - #3560.

Animal care concentrate cost more than top feed, any reason for that

davies427:

@ segun hw did u flush ur water line. Did u use a pressure machine or just manually flushing.

It was a manual flushing (just opening the end of the line and allowing water flow through while the overhed was full)

Eggcelent:
segun1976. Akure - #3490. Owo - #3560.

Seems it's marginally cheaper in Lagos. Maybe cost of transportation is responsible.

As a Bizfarmer (combination of business & farming), I'm thinking about the impact of spent-layer disposals (during the salah) on the price of eggs. Do you think it would really matter?

Eggcelent:
segun1976. Akure - #3490. Owo - #3560.

This means average cost of layer feed would be higher than N85/kg in a place like Owo??