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Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 6:39pm On Aug 01, 2015
Although tribalism is continually exploited by lazy politicians for their own personal ambition, I sincerely don't think tribalism is one of the root problems plaguing Nigeria.

Off course tribalism occurs even in the work place but this is just used to protect one's interests. Let me elaborate on this statement. A Yoruba director is more comfortable picking a young Yoruba man as his PA because after all the young man may have gotten his appointment into the civil service through this same director who intends to use him to cover his tracks and protect his interests in shady deals. This is what a Hausa and Igbo director will do not because he wants some one from his tribe but because they can guarantee a level of trust from some one who they personally handpicked for the job.

Also, we can not really blame tribalism because outside the north and middle belt, the peoples of the south never interacted with each other. In the north, the Caliphate had already created a monogous culture through jihadist conquest. It was during the indigenization of the British Colonial govt that saw educated southerners get employed in the civil service from where rivarlty began to thrive especially among Yorubas and Igbos.

We can also argue to a large extent that tribalism played a role in leading to the brutal civil war but that will be undermining the critical and most crucial issues that led to a blown out war.

From what we see today in present day Nigeria, tribalism may seem to be waxing strong but that is not the case what we have is a clash of ideologies. With no clear ideological differences between the two major parties, cultural and inherent ideologies not neccessarily rooted in primeval cultures is what is driving the ideological divide.

Take for example the north, Islam remains the paramount ideology over there and we have a terrorist insurgency going on whose aims is to promote their islamic ideology on the polity.

In the Niger Delta, the driving force behind Militancy is geared towards equity, fairness and justice over their own resources. In the SE the drive has always been hinged on the Biafran near genocide which without genuine appeasement and reconciliation can never ever end that cause.

The only region that does not seem to have a clear defined ideological base other than maintaining opposition is the SW. This region still has all the hallmarks of tribal politics but lurking beneath this facade is the quest for economical emancipation. The SW needs Nigeria more than they will want to admit it.

So in summary, we should expect tribal sentiments but we should be aware of the root ideological quests driving these tribalistic notions.

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by Nobody: 6:40pm On Aug 01, 2015
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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 6:54pm On Aug 01, 2015
Tribalism thrives in Nigeria because there is no viable working document and model for all the tribes to coexist equally and in peace.

Being from a minority group in the SouthSouth automatically narrows my opportunities on the national level. This ought not be the case as minority groups are the reason behind affirmative action in the US which is similar to our quota system. But rather than guarantee equal representation the quota system replicates the censors figures thereby making minority people marginalized at the centre.

Take for examples he cut off marks for common entrance students into unity schools for students from Bayelsa (the least populated state) and compare it with that of Kano ( the most populated according to census figures). A child from Bayelsa is expected to score at least double what a child from Kano will and to make matters worse Bayelsa will have the least slots reserved for them when compared to Kano with the highest.

The quota system does not help minority people but rather further alienates them and gives more opportunity to dominant tribes in the north.

We can also see how even where the north and southwest and southeast may share the same number of slots, the northern candidates will still be offered opportunities on a platter of gold based on educational disadvantage.
So a student in Yobe can gain admission to a unity school by scoring just 15 out of 400 but a child from Anambra will need to meet at least 320 to get a slot.

All these useless policies have created tribal sentiments and not the other way round.

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by babyfaceafrica: 6:55pm On Aug 01, 2015
So u just open Thread to insult the south west...u are a tribal bigot!!!

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:01pm On Aug 01, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
So u just open Thread to insult the south west...u are a tribal bigot!!!

When did I insult the southwest?

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by babyfaceafrica: 7:08pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


When did I insult the southwest?
read ur post again!
Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:09pm On Aug 01, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
read ur post again!

I wrote it.

Tell me your grieviance and quote where I went wrong

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by Flyoruboy(m): 7:11pm On Aug 01, 2015
LOL. I laugh in chinese. OP wrote:

PPAngel:
"The only region that does not seem to have a clear defined ideological base other than maintaining opposition is the SW. This region still has all the hallmarks of tribal politics but lurking beneath this facade is the quest for economical emancipation. The SW needs Nigeria more than they will want to admit it."

On what basis did you arrive these jaundiced conclusions, if I may ask? You call us the 'hallmark of tribal politics', yet we still allow non-indigenes in our midst to contest and win elections into our state assemblies, and even represent the state at the Federal level. Yorubas are the hallmark of tribal politics, yet we gladly sell land to your kinsmen -- something even your SE kinsmen acknowledge they don't do to non-indigenes in Igboland and even taunt us about their people 'buying up our lands'. Truth of the matter is that the SW has been a magnet for your folks since long before independence. The Region set the benchmark and standard in development ahead of any other long before independence or Oil discovery. Ask your parents and grandparents why they chose to rather school at University College (now UI) and UCH located in Ibadan long before independence and oil discovery, than build a worthy replica for their own folks in the SE.


"The SW needs Nigeria more than they will want to admit it."

This is the biggest lie in the history of big lies. Let's do a quick fact-check. The South West is the largest contributor of non-oil revenue to the Federal coffers. FACT. According to the rebased GDP estimate figures contained in the National Economic Report, Agriculture accounts for 22.1% of GDP, while Crude Oil and Gas accounts for 15.8% (download the NER report here: http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/2014/07/19883231/nigeria-economic-report-no-2 ). Add to that fact that the region is industrializing faster than any other in the entire country, thanks to the avalanche of FDI.

According to Adesina the former Agric Minister, Nigeria exported $10billion dollars worth of Cocoa last year (http://businessdayonline.com/2014/11/nigeria-exports-10bn-raw-cocoa-annually). More than 90% of that revenue emanated from the SW. That doesn't include other Agric export earnings (from Tobacco, Cashew, e.t.c) contributed by the region and generated as revenue for the Federal government. Now, bear in mind that the revenue generated from the air and seaports, as well as customs border posts, running into additional billions of dollars, all generated from the SW, also goes into the federal coffers -- and the region doesn't even receive any "13% derivation" from these earnings as the Niger Delta does on Oil revenue. The South West states currently receive more allocations from the center than the SE states simply coz they contribute more to the national commonwealth, simple. Can you present to me any verifiable data of the SE contribution to the the Nigerian commonwealth?

These are verifiable facts with the data to back them up. There's no value that the Igboman is adding to Yorubaland that cannot be replicated in his absense. Not one. We have our own Film industry. We have our own manufacturing industry. We have our own Universities. We have our own artisans and traders that can quickly replace yours in the event that they are relocated for whatever reason. So pray tell what exactly you mean by that statement that the SW needs Nigeria more than the other way round? When we already contribute our share in Oil revenue (from Ondo) and Agric. We also generate revenue via VAT and our sea and land borders.

Like I asked earlier, what does your own region contribute to the National economy?

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by Nobody: 7:12pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


I wrote it.

Tell me your grieviance and quote where I went wrong

''This region still
has all the hallmarks of tribal politics but lurking
beneath this facade is the quest for economical
emancipation. The SW needs Nigeria more than
they will want to admit it.''



try harder

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by babyfaceafrica: 7:14pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


I wrote it.

Tell me your grieviance and quote where I went wrong
what is the meaning of..............
The only region that does not seem to have a clear defined ideological base other than maintaining opposition is the SW. This region still has all the hallmarks of tribal politics but lurking beneath this facade is the quest for economical emancipation. The SW needs Nigeria more than they will want to admit it.....dis is fallacy!!

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by Nobody: 7:14pm On Aug 01, 2015
"The only region that does not seem to have a clear defined ideological base other than maintaining opposition is the SW''
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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:14pm On Aug 01, 2015
SarahBabyxx:


''This region still
has all the hallmarks of tribal politics but lurking
beneath this facade is the quest for economical
emancipation. The SW needs Nigeria more than
they will want to admit it.''



try harder

And why is that an insult?

Outside Lagos, the SW states can't survive without federal allocations.

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:15pm On Aug 01, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
what is the meaning of..............
The only region that does not seem to have a clear defined ideological base other than maintaining opposition is the SW. This region still has all the hallmarks of tribal politics but lurking beneath this facade is the quest for economical emancipation. The SW needs Nigeria more than they will want to admit it.....dis is fallacy!!

And what did I get wrong?

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by FrenchBiafran: 7:17pm On Aug 01, 2015
SW cannot survive without federal allocations. Simple

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by babyfaceafrica: 7:19pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


And what did I get wrong?
is south west in opposition naw?...who told you tht they don't have ideology politically?...who told you they need nigeria more than dey admit it?....these are your opinion which u are entitled to nt facts!!
Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:24pm On Aug 01, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
is south west in opposition naw?...who told you tht they don't have ideology politically?...who told you they need nigeria more than dey admit it?....these are your opinion which u are entitled to nt facts!!

The SW is still in opposition. The events playing out in the National Assembly proves this.

When Buhari finally gets his cabinet out, you will see Tinbu do a 180 on this APC broom assembly.

Can you tell me the current political ideology of the SW because I know you guys hae since jettisoned regional autonomy as can be seen in the last Confab.

As for wanting Nigeria more than Nigeria itself,the SW is the only region never to have any plans to have aserate state. Facts.

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by vedaxcool(m): 7:27pm On Aug 01, 2015
ANOTHER STEWWWPID THREAD OPENED BY A TRIBALISTWORM

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by vedaxcool(m): 7:29pm On Aug 01, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
is south west in opposition naw?...who told you tht they don't have ideology politically?...who told you they need nigeria more than dey admit it?....these are your opinion which u are entitled to nt facts!!

Reasoning with a tribal bigot is like trying to lift your car on your head, you just wouldn't succeed in sharing reason with the tribalist, read her previous comments and you would see how the envious snake is drolling over how exception Yorubas are bla bla bla while she has nothing to show for her pathetic existence!

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:29pm On Aug 01, 2015
vedaxcool:
ANOTHER STEWWWPID THREAD OPENED BY A TRIBALISTWORM

This is all you do in every thread.

You never offer by reason one single plausible argument rather you just come in and spew your trash.

I hate to say this but I preferred you when the only thing you used to post was "Sai Buhar" and "Change'!

Useless Pleb.

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:31pm On Aug 01, 2015
vedaxcool:


Reasoning with a tribal bigot is like trying to lift your car on your head, you just wouldn't succeed in sharing reason with the tribalist, read her previous comments and you would see how the envious snake is drolling over how exception Yorubas are bla bla bla while she has nothing to show for her pathetic existence!

I will easily feed you for a year.

Send me your PayPal account let me send you 5k for dinner.

I heard the hunger games is heating up in Osun.

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by vedaxcool(m): 7:32pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


This is all I do in every thread.

I never offer by reason one single plausible argument rather I just come in and spew your trash.

I hate to say this but I preferred limiting my post to saying ZOO!

I am a Useless Pleb.

K

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by babyfaceafrica: 7:33pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


The SW is still in opposition. The events playing out in the National Assembly proves this.

When Buhari finally gets his cabinet out, you will see Tinbu do a 180 on this APC broom assembly.

Can you tell me the current political ideology of the SW because I know you guys hae since jettisoned regional autonomy as can be seen in the last Confab.

As for wanting Nigeria more than Nigeria itself,the SW is the only region never to have any plans to have aserate state. Facts.
apart from the ss and see,I don't know of any oda region that wants a seperate state!!..fact!!...so because of the nass debacle the sw are in the opposition..I don't understand ur political maths dere!!...wateve buhari does with his ministerial names ...does not affect sw..it is the ss and se that are wailing!!!....last confab was a charade..so I won assign too many meanings to it...tinubu does nt equate sw please...he may be gud at what he does ..does nt make him sw..I don't judge a region by the actions and inactions of a single man..I don't generalize...I don't judge igbos by ojukwu,okorocha,kanu or obiano behaviour,I don't judge north by buhari,atiku ,tambuwal bevahiours..everybody is responsible fo his action..there are good and sensible nigerians out there...don't see what you wnt to see..see what is there..peace

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by vedaxcool(m): 7:35pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


You will easily feed me for a year.

I Send you my PayPal account let you send me 5k for dinner.

I heard the hunger games is heating up in my Family House.


grin

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by babyfaceafrica: 7:35pm On Aug 01, 2015
vedaxcool:


Reasoning with a tribal bigot is like trying to lift your car on your head, you just wouldn't succeed in sharing reason with the tribalist, read her previous comments and you would see how the envious snake is drolling over how exception Yorubas are bla bla bla while she has nothing to show for her pathetic existence!
on point!!..I will be careful next tyme..Nigeria will rise again!!

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by vedaxcool(m): 7:36pm On Aug 01, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
on point!!..I will be careful next tyme..Nigeria will rise again!!

Amen
Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:37pm On Aug 01, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
apart from the ss and see,I don't know of any oda region that wants a seperate state!!..fact!!...so because of the nass debacle the sw are in the opposition..I don't understand ur political maths dere!!...wateve buhari does with his ministerial names ...does not affect sw..it is the ss and se that are wailing!!!....last confab was a charade..so I won assign too many meanings to it...tinubu does nt equate sw please...he may be gud at what he does ..does nt make him sw..I don't judge a region by the actions and inactions of a single man..I don't generalize...I don't judge igbos by ojukwu,okorocha,kanu or obiano behaviour,I don't judge north by buhari,atiku ,tambuwal bevahiours..everybody is responsible fo his action..there are good and sensible nigerians out there...don't see what you wnt to see..see what is there..peace

The north were the first to declare an independent state of Arewa just prior to independence.

The northerners were never active in the independence struggle but bennefited immensely from it through the flawed British conducted censors which gave them majority seats.

This thread is not only about Yoruba politics and as such did not generalize on Yoruba people.

If you may recall my heading, I stated clearly that tribalism is not the problem but resource aggigtation by every region.

So chill .

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:40pm On Aug 01, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
on point!!..I will be careful next tyme..Nigeria will rise again!!

I am sorry to bust your bubble but there is a reason why the US which wants a weaker fragmented Nigeria chose to support a sectional bigoted individual like Buhari as President.

Buhari is the fuse on the keg of gunpowder.

When Tinubu begins to circulate the memo for you guys to stop supporting Buhari after the ministerial list is out kindly mention me.

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:40pm On Aug 01, 2015
vedaxcool:


Amen

You heathen squid which pagan diety are you praying to?

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by zimoni(f): 7:44pm On Aug 01, 2015
SW Yoruba, Yoruba SW chant shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



High Blood Pressure Is Real, Hate Causes HBP.

Have a blessed day.

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Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by vedaxcool(m): 7:46pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


I am a heathen squid with pagan diety I are praying to

cry
Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by PPAngel(f): 7:46pm On Aug 01, 2015
vedaxcool:


cry

Obviously you no get yarn.
Re: Tribalism Has Never Been The Problem Of Nigeria by vedaxcool(m): 7:47pm On Aug 01, 2015
PPAngel:


Obviously I am empty fool who no get yarn.

undecided

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