why was the devil able to whisper and somehow manipulate the prophet Muhammed?

truthman2013:
…...my work is done here. abduljabbar4 , please pay no attention to this old jobless man. This topic has been dealt withon different occasion: https://www.nairaland.com/1368713/explanations-wanted
https://www.nairaland.com/638130/abrogation-quranic-verses-greatest-lie
There is no point furthering the arguement with him. Afterall @lieman2012, you were unable to address my rebuttal. No matter how much I refute your post on this thread, it won't change your mindset. So whats the point. Your lie already has been exposed.

..truthman..

truthman2013:
…...my work is done here. abduljabbar4 , please pay no attention to this old jobless man. This topic has been dealt withon different occasion: https://www.nairaland.com/1368713/explanations-wanted
https://www.nairaland.com/638130/abrogation-quranic-verses-greatest-lie
There is no point furthering the arguement with him. Afterall @lieman2012, you were unable to address my rebuttal. No matter how much I refute your post on this thread, it won't change your mindset. So whats the point. Your lie already has been exposed.

..truthman..

truthman2012:
Hey! You once lied there are no SUBTITUTIONS ABROGATIONS in the quran, now that you have seen some of them, why are you silent? Common, speak out. Or are you searching for LIES to defend them?

abduljabbar4:

Must i be the one to explain mr lieman? Truthman2013 explained and the best you and your a$$ licker could do was to call him a liar out of frustration. Meanwhile have you danced naked today? Oh today is Friday

truthman2012:

Look man, Rilwayne lied that it is the Torah and the Gospel that were substituted with the quran and I proved him wrong by citing quranic verses that show Torah and Gospel were in use at Muhammad's time.

He also claimed islamic wars were agains pagans for breaching treaty or oath and I proved him wrong by saying the innocent Jews and Christians who were not under the treaty were also killed and evident from the quran.

He said there are no substitutions in the quran and I proved him wrong by posting some of them.

Now tell me what rebuttals did he make.

zicoraads:
Truthman2013...explanation needed for the satanic verses please..

Jagoon:


Fact is that allah is satan in disguise. Mohamed was working for the devil all along.

truthman2013:


You mean those out-of-context verses you quoted to support your delusion? Well, those claims were clearly refuted here: https://www.nairaland.com/638130/abrogation-
quranic-verses-greatest-lie



I was addressing Surah 9. Please reply my rebuttal if you are truthful on this.



https://www.nairaland.com/638130/abrogation-
quranic-verses-greatest-lie



Did you bother to reply it? Do you want me to help you by copying it again? I would fo that ASAP.

..truthman..

truthman2012:


Trash!

I don't need to reply as it would mean repeating myself.

The link you gave is a distraction. It is not what is said there but what we have seen here with our own eyes: Were there SUBSTITUTIONS to allahh's revelations? YES. There are many and some of them already posted, which are not REFUTABLE.

Were islamic wars for SELF DEFENCE or REPRISALS? NO. There many proven cases of direct attack on those who did not believe in allahh. Were muslims wars against only the pagans who broke treaty? NO. Jews and Christians who were not under the treaty were also killed for not believing in allahh.

No one can refute the glaring truth without resorting to lying.

truthman2013:


To your dead-brain.



so you refused to reply my rebuttals and you expect me to be repeating myself?


The link is not a distraction. Your alleged notREFUTABLE are utterly refuted on the link https://www.nairaland.com/638130/abrogation-quranic-verses-greatest-lie It is now left to you to see the truth for what it is.



So, you expect me to repeat myself when actually I have addresed this up there in my rebuttal? You are sounding boring old man.



Who is lying between myself and you when it is obvious that you are scared to address the truth posed at you?
Stop living in denial. You failed woefully on this thread. You can't defend your bible on my thread and in your attempt to discredit the Quran, you failed. Won't you just throw your bible in the trash?

truthman..

truthman2012:


Can you eat non-halal
meat? YES. But later abrogated and substituted with NO. (Quran 5:5 versus 6:118).

Surah 5, Verse 4-5:
They ask you as to what is allowed to them. Say: The good things are allowed to you, and what you have taught the beasts and birds of prey, training them to hunt-- you teach them of what Allah has taught you-- so eat of that which they catch for you and mention the name of Allah over it; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is swift in reckoning.This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them; and the chaste from among the believing women...."

Surah 6, Verse 118:
Therefore eat of that on which Allah's name has been mentioned if you are believers in His communications.

So, what is the abrogation here shameless old liar

Should muslims marry non-muslims? 'NO' and later substituted with 'YES' (Quran 2:221 vs 5:5).

Surah 2, Verse 221:
And do not marry the idolatresses until they believe, and certainly a believing maid is better than an idolatress woman, even though she should please you; and do not give (believing women) in marriage to idolaters until they believe, and certainly a believing servant is better than an idolater, even though he should please you; these invite to the fire, and Allah invites to the garden and to forgiveness by His will, and makes clear His communications to men, that they may be mindful.

Surah 5, Verse 5:
This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them; and the chaste from among the believing women and the chaste from among those who have been given the Book before you (are lawful for you); when you have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.


So I ask, are Idolateress and the People of the book the same? Where is the abrogation here old shameless liar

For whom is salvation? For JEWS, CHRISTIANS, SEABIANS. But later substituted with 'ONLY MUSLIMS (Quran 5:69 vs 3:85).

Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 69:
Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve..

What you failed to understand here is that, this verse was not refering to todays jews and christians rather to the Jews and Christians of the time of Moses and Jesus respectively. You can come up to say this is a lie, but I don't care if your brain is unable to see this, but let me put the verse in its rightful context for the truthful people reading this. The proceeding verse of Surah 5:69;

Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 70-71:
Certainly We made a covenant with the children of Israel and We sent to them apostles; whenever there came to them an apostle with what that their souls did not desire, some (of them) did they call liars and some they slew. And they thought that there would be no affliction, so they became blind and deaf; then Allah turned to them mercifully, but many of them became blind and deaf; and Allah is well seeing what they do.

^^The context has made us understand that the verse you pointed to to buttress your delusion was actually talking about past event of how the children of Israel went astray. But Quran
in 5:69 makes us understand that not all of them went astray the bolded part of verse 71 hints about it too, and Indeed they shall be rewarded duly from their LORD.

Surah 3, Verse 85:
And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.

To further buttress my point; Islam is not just a muslim thing. It means "voluntary submission to God" . Therefore, those who submitted to God through the message of Moses and Jesus as at their time practised ISLAM. Abraham who was called Muslim (see 2:128, 2:131, 2:133) not because he practised the Islam we are practising today but because he submitted to the will of God as at that time.

So, where is the abrogation here shameless old liar

Will Allah reward the good
deeds of non-Muslims? YES. Later substituted with NO (Quran 2:62 vs 9:17).

The explanation here is exactly the as the one I just did up here. Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 62:
Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.

The context was talking about the Israelite. I don't think I need to makes more explanation on this, refer back to the one I made up here.

Meanwhile,,Quran 9:17 was even refering to the idolaters as I have made you understand the historical background of Quran 9 that the Idolaters broke the treaty of peace they signed with Muslims and also sought to kill the prophet.

Surah At-Taubah, Verse 17:
The idolaters have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing witness to unbelief against themselves, these it is whose doings are null, and in the fire shall they abide.

So where is the abrogation here shameless old man

How should muslims treat those who do
not believe in an afterlife?
BE KIND TO THEM. But later substituted with ATTACK THEM (Quran 45:14 vs 9:29).

How should muslims treat infidel family? STAY WITH THEM. Later abrogated and substituted with DON'T STAY WITH THEM (Quran 31:15 vs 9:23).

Should Muslims have
Christians for friends? YES. But later replaced with NO (Quran 5:82 vs 5:51).

ARE the SUBSTITUTIONS not clear enough?

How can you guys refute them?

Did you see all these in the links you cleverly wanted to use for cover-up?

For whom is salvation? For JEWS, CHRISTIANS, SEABIANS. But later substituted with 'ONLY MUSLIMS (Quran 5:69 vs 3:85).


Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 69:
Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve..

What you failed to understand here is that, this verse was not refering to todays jews and christians rather to the Jews and Christians of the time of Moses and Jesus respectively.You can come up to say this is a lie, but I don't care if your brain is unable to see this, but let me put the verse in its rightful context for the truthful people reading this. The proceeding verse of Surah 5:69;

Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 70-71:
Certainly We made a covenant with the children of Israel and We sent to them apostles; whenever there came to them an apostle with what that their souls did not desire, some (of them) did they call liars and some they slew. And they thought that there would be no affliction, so they became blind and deaf; then Allah turned to them mercifully, but many of them became blind and deaf; and Allah is well seeing what they do.

^^The context has made us understand that the verse you pointed to to buttress your delusion was actually talking about past event of how the children of Israel went astray. But Quran
in 5:69 makes us understand that not all of them went astray the bolded part of verse 71 hints about it too, and Indeed they shall be rewarded duly from their LORD.

Surah 3, Verse 85:
And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.

To further buttress my point; Islam is not just a muslim thing. It means "voluntary submission to God". Therefore, those who submitted to God through the message of Moses and Jesus as at their time practised ISLAM. Abraham who was called Muslim (see 2:128, 2:131, 2:133) not because he practised the Islam we are practising today but because he submitted to the will of God as at that time.

Will Allah reward the good
deeds of non-Muslims? YES. Later substituted with NO (Quran 2:62 vs 9:17).



The explanation here is exactly the as the one I just did up here. Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 62:
Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.

The context was talking about the Israelite. I don't think I need to makes more explanation on this, refer back to the one I made up here.

Meanwhile,,Quran 9:17 was even refering to the idolaters as I have made you understand the historical background of Quran 9 that the Idolaters broke the treaty of peace they signed with Muslims and also sought to kill the prophet.

Surah At-Taubah, Verse 17:
The idolaters have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing witness to unbelief against themselves, these it is whose doings are null, and in the fire shall they abide.

How should muslims treat those who do
not believe in an afterlife?
BE KIND TO THEM. But later substituted with ATTACK THEM (Quran 45:14 vs 9:29).

I have made you understand severall times that there is no rationale in using Quran 9 to support your baseless point of Muslim being ordered to attack NON-MUSLIM at will. I have pasted for you the historical background of Surah 9 up dere. Please refer back to it and see where I rightly pointed that it was a verse revealed at the time of war when the Pagans sought to kill the Prophet (pbuh) after breaking the peace treaty they signed with him. So we should understand that the revelation was for a particular time. Exactly when I quoted to you from your bible 'thou shall not kill' only to read NUMBERS to see where Moses was ordered to kill some people..your defence was that it was during a war time, when actually you were unable to present scripture to back it up. Now here I am. Using the Quran to backup the fact that the verse was addressing the oppresed of those times and not bounded on people of today. In essence, Quran 45:14 is an eternal commandment bounded on us, while Quran 9:29 was for the oppressed of the prophet time, whom the Pagans sought to kill after breaking the peace treaty.

How should muslims treat infidel family? STAY WITH THEM. Later abrogated and substituted with DON'T STAY WITH THEM (Quran 31:15 vs 9:23).

Quran 9 again? Refer back to my explanation above.

Should Muslims have
Christians for friends? YES. But later replaced with NO (Quran 5:82 vs 5:51).


I don't know what you are smoking, but you are definitely high on it. Quran 5:82-83 talks about those who saw the truth, recognised it and accept it wholeheartedly i.e. those who converted to islam after accepting the truth. It is not just compatible with what you want us to believe up here

Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 83:
When they listen to that which hath been revealed unto the messengers, thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of their recognition of the Truth. They say: Our Lord, we believe. Inscribe us as among the witnesses.

As per Quran 5:51 please read here for better understanding: http://www.answering-christianity.com/friends.htm

ARE the SUBSTITUTIONS not clear enough?



Perhaps you should try harder.

lieman2012 aka fake truthman2012

What did you mean it is not for today's Jews and Christians? See how you are lying again. Where is it stated that the verse is referring to then Jews and Christians? Liar.

Once again, even though you are old enough to be my dad, I won't relent in teaching you what you are ignorant of lol... let me put the verse into its rightful context and you should judge it yourself whether its is about todays christians or not: Verse 5:69 appears in the following context

So by that you are saying the quran is not meant for all ages.

Then why are you a muslim? Smh!

"Who said islam is not a muslim thing"?

Which other believers in God call themselves muslims?

Trash!

What is the difference between Israelite Christians and other Christians?

Just formulating lies thinking you are making sense.

Quran also recognises the Christians as idolaters for believing Jesus is the Son of God. Nonsense.

I have severally debunked this your lie. The treaty was between Muhammad and the pagans. It had nothing to do with the Jews and Christians. Why were the Jews and Christians included in Muhammad's genocide? You keep repeating the same trash. Smh!
If it was a war situation, the war should be between Muhammad and the pagans who broke the treaty (even though this has no authentic hadith backing), then why fight them "even if they are people of the Book"? Yes, Quran 9 again because it says "kill anybody who did not believe in allah who forbid not what is forbidden by him" This is a general term affecting anybody who did not forbid what muslims forbid, in other words, all non-muslims.

..To you, the word "Christians" in that verse shows they saw the truth of islam and accepted it wholeheartedly.

You must be reasoning up-side-down.

So they were still called Christians after they have converted to islam.

You must actually be smoking weeds. [c000]See the kind of lies you are telling…

hahahahahahahaha LWTMB. I don't smoke weed, old man. I'm very sure that you must have smoke a lot of weed during your youthful days hence the reason why your brain is now deteriorating.. ( no offence) LMAO..

The writer of the link is liar like yourself. Those people in verse 83 you referred to are not Christians. Anyone who is sober for islam is no more a Christians.

If the case is truly as you want us to believe, why would the quran say muslims should not take Christians for friends, I mean if they have decided to leave Christianity for islam?

My friend, go and rest your brain, you must either have taken weeds or overworked your brain.

I don't need to try harder, the SUBSTITUTIONS, already highlighted still stand very STRONG.

truthman2013:
quote author=truthman2012 post= 3667827



..You have shown beyond doubt that your head is impervous to correction. Its just too sad that as old as you are, you still want to remain a chronic liar to death. Please think twice on this route you are taking. It is destructive. Its leads to hell.. Jesus according to your bible will deny knowing you.



Once again, even though you are old enough to be my dad, I won't relent in teaching you what you are ignorant of lol... let me put the verse into its rightful context and you should judge it yourself whether its is about todays christians or not: Verse 5:69 appears in the following context

Quran 5:65-74. If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss. If only they had stood fast by the Tawraat, the Injeel, and what has [now] been sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil. O Messenger, proclaim the (message) which has been revealed to you from your Lord. And if you do not, then you have not conveyed His Message. And Allah will protect you from mankind. For Allah guides not those who reject Faith. Say: "O People of the Book! You have no ground to stand upon unless you establish the Tawraat, the Injeel, and that which has now been sent down to you from your Lord." Verily, that which has been sent down to you (Muhammad) from your Lord increases in many of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. So be not sorrowful over the people who disbelieve. Surely, those who believed and the Jews and Sabians and Christians -whosoever believed in Allâh and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. We took the covenant of the Children of Israel and sent them apostles, every time, there came to them an apostle with what they themselves desired not - some (of these) they called impostors, and some they (go so far as to) slay. They thought there would be no trial (or punishment); so they became blind and deaf; yet Allah (in mercy) turned to them; yet again many of them became blind and deaf. But Allah sees well all that they do. They do blaspheme who say: "God is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Merciful.

These^^ verses begin by mentioning that the majority of the people of previous scriptures deviated from the truth while some still held fast to their scriptures. Then it mentions that Allah, in His infinite mercy, has sent to the people of the scripture another messenger to guide them back to the truth after they had deviated. They need only believe in Allah and the Last Day and accept the messages that were sent to them in order to attain salvation.Immediately after mentioning that anyone who has faith in Allah and does righteous deeds will be rewarded (verse 5:69), the Qur'an goes on to clarify that the Christians and Jews being referred to here are not those who killed the prophets or blasphemed by ascribing divinity to Prophet Jesus. Rather, verse 5:69 refers to those who follow the true message brought to them by their messengers. It clarifies that the Jews and Christians have now gone astray and conseuqently they do not qualify for the reward given to those who have truly believed and performed righteous deeds. This reward is for those who follow the messages of the Prophets, to worship one God alone and to keep the commandments. If one rejects the prophethood of Muhammad pbuh, they have not followed the message of God. But if one accepts the prophethood of.Muhammad pbuh, then they are amongst those referred to in the verse who will be rewarded, and they are considered Muslims.

**Yawns..I've tried enough here, I may not be ccoming back to this. **



The Quran consists of the story of the past prophets and the seal of the prophet (peace be upon them all) including God's eternal commandment and promise for humankind.

Is the buybull not meant for all ages? Why do you always segregate the OLD testament Law? were they not from YHWH? Do you support jagoon's claim that the OT is not in use again?



Because I was created to serve my creator. Why are you a christian?



Islām is the verbal noun of Form IV of the root, and means "submission" or "surrender." Muslim, the word for an adherent of Islam, is the active participle of the same verb form, and means "one who submits" or "one who surrenders." - wikipedia.

"submitter' to the will of God is called muslim, not just believer in God.

…Hypocrite.

[color=red] Confused old man.

Trash!

To your featherhead.


What is the difference between Israelite Christians and other Christians?

The Quran recognised them as the people of the book.

Just formulating lies thinking you are making sense.

You should then refute the formulated lies.

Quran also recognises the Christians as idolaters for believing Jesus is the Son of God. Nonsense.

That doesn't change the facr that they are people of the book. And they are more regarded that the pagan, hence, the reason why Allah permits us to marry them as well. Therefore, you have no point here.

I have severally debunked this your lie. The treaty was between Muhammad and the pagans. It had nothing to do with the Jews and Christians. Why were the Jews and Christians included in Muhammad's genocide? You keep repeating the same trash. Smh!
If it was a war situation, the war should be between Muhammad and the pagans who broke the treaty (even though this has no authentic hadith backing), then why fight them "even if they are people of the Book"? Yes, Quran 9 again because it says "kill anybody who did not believe in allah who forbid not what is forbidden by him" This is a general term affecting anybody who did not forbid what muslims forbid, in other words, all non-muslims.

I will keep repeating this to your deaf ear: I have made you understand severall times that there is no rationale in using Quran 9 to support your baseless point of Muslim being ordered to attack NON-MUSLIM at will. I have pasted for you the historical background of Surah 9 up dere. Please refer back to it and see where I rightly pointed that it was a verse revealed at the time of war when the Pagans sought to kill the Prophet (pbuh) after breaking the peace treaty they signed with him. So we should understand that the revelation was for a particular time. Exactly when I quoted to you from your bible 'thou shall not kill' only to read NUMBERS to see where Moses was ordered to kill some people..your defence was that it was during a war time, when actually you were unable to present scripture to back it up. Now here I am. Using the Quran to backup the fact that the verse was addressing the oppresed of those times and not bounded on people of today. In essence, Quran 45:14 is an eternal commandment bounded on us, while Quran 9:29 was for the oppressed of the prophet time, whom the.Pagans sought to kill after breaking the peace treaty.


..To you, the word "Christians" in that verse shows they saw the truth of islam and accepted it wholeheartedly.

Yes, the verse and its context made us understand this clearly: Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 82-83:
Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly
And when they hear what has been revealed to the apostle you will see their eyes overflowing with tears on account of the truth that they recognize; they say: Our Lord! we believe, so write us down with the witnesses (of truth).

You must be reasoning up-side-down.

Lool.. Perhaps you think Im reasoning up side down as a result of you reasoning like a goat.

So they were still called Christians after they have converted to islam.
Sorry, I made a mistake there. They actually haven't converted to Islam but they wanted to convert after seeing the glaring truth, hence, ".. Our Lord! we believe, so write us down with the witnesses (of truth)"



You must actually be smoking weeds. [c000]See the kind of lies you are telling…

hahahahahahahaha LWTMB. I don't smoke weed, old man. I'm very sure that you must have smoke a lot of weed during your youthful days hence the reason why your brain is now deteriorating.. ( no offence) LMAO..

The writer of the link is liar like yourself. Those people in verse 83 you referred to are not Christians. Anyone who is sober for islam is no more a Christians. The writer wasn't addressing verse 83. He wrote about verse 51. Get your glasses if you can't see clearly.

If the case is truly as you want us to believe, why would the quran say muslims should not take Christians for friends, I mean if they have decided to leave Christianity for islam?

That means, you didn't bother to read the link. Again, here for you: http://www.answering-christianity.com/friends.htm

My friend, go and rest your brain, you must either have taken weeds or overworked your brain.

Loooooooool.. I don't smoke weed, old man.

I don't need to try harder, the SUBSTITUTIONS, already highlighted still stand very STRONG.

It doesn't stanfmd strong man. Why didn't you bother to tacke the first two alleged abrogation?? Does that mean you accept that nothing like abrogation in them?

..truthman. .

truthman2012:


[s]Trash!

Untrained, uncultured, saucy terrorist.

Lying and joining all irrelevant quranic verses to mean what he wants them to mean, calling Christians muslims. Smh!

See your false god further LIES here: www.nairaland.com/2507051/muhammad-vs-other-prophets[/s]

Better respect your old age o

Demmzy15:

Better respect your old age o

Trash!

Untrained,

uncultured,

…saucy terrorist.

Lying and joining all irrelevant quranic verses to mean what he wants them to mean, calling Christians muslims. Smh!

[s] See your false god further LIES here: www.nairaland.com/2507051/muhammad-vs-other-prophets [/s]

Demmzy15:
Truthman2013 this humiliation is too much for truthman2012 , wallahi I just laugh my throat wan tear. Gosh!! This old man suppose go spend hin pension for rehabilitation centre!

hahaha as you can see my bros, this old man so much hate the truth that he doesn't even want to hear about it. I, being the real truthman, having brought him the truth; he turned away and called me a "saucy terrorist" WTF!! Perhaps truth is bitter as they used to say.

Top of the morning my kind sire.

..truthman..

truthman2012:


Or else what?

What can you say that you have not said before?

Do you think am moved by your abuses? Afterall your prophet called the Jews monkies and apes. You have a prophet you take after.

truthman2013:
quote author=truthman2012 post=36685221



WTF! So I just wasted my time replying all your alleged strong substition?.



I am well trained..



…I am not.




terrorist /ˈtɛrərɪst/
noun
a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.

So tell me how I am a terrorist? How have I terrorize you? Are you that allergic to the truth?



You are supposed to refute them and not to make all these baseless accusations.



Nooo, not so quick. We won't be going to your next thread until you admit that your lie has been exposed here. It is either you admit or refute my rebuttals one after the other..Then we would go to your next thread.

..truthman..

proo212:
@Truthman2012, Malvisguy and True2god, i'm sure you know the owner of answering-christianity.com is Osama Abdullah. Just listen to any of his debates and you can see the exact mindset of someone who would use his website as material for rebuttal.

Keep on the good work guys and God will continue to use you. I know its very laborious but the harvest is plenty. This is the only motivating factor.

proo212:
@Truthman2012, Malvisguy and True2god, i'm sure you know the owner of answering-christianity.com is Osama Abdullah. Just listen to any of his debates and you can see the exact mindset of someone who would use his website as material for rebuttal.

Keep on the good work guys and God will continue to use you. I know its very laborious but the harvest is plenty. This is the only motivating factor.

true2god:
Osama Abdullah is an arab racial supremacist who sees no wrong in the atrociticies of mohammed. He, in most cases, also lied that mohammed never did any wrong. But when you point out mohammed's deeds\instructions in the quran and the hadiths, he will quickly shout 'out of context' without giving any alternative meaning. If you accused mohammed of marrying a 6-yr old baby (when he was 51), he will say it was acceptable then but not now.

Muslims are funny people who hardly apply logic to see that mohammed can never be a prophet. In one hadith mohammed described one of his black slaves (cos he was also into slave trading) 'RAISIN HEAD'. That means mohammed is a pure rascist with that sort of 'stereotype' description of fellow human. Mohammed is the only known religiosly global figure that legitimately enslaved black with approval of his coran.

Shame on any black who defends the evil of mohammed against we blacks.

truthman2012:


Muslims are addicted liars.

Liars deceive their own selves because right inside them, they know they are lying.

Jagoon:


Honestly I think they are actually possessed by some negative spirit. The fact that they actually have to lie so much to defend there pathetic religion should tell them that their religion is false.

truthman2012:


Or else what?

What can you say that you have not said before?

Do you think am moved by your abuses? Afterall your prophet called the Jews monkies and apes. You have a prophet you take after.

truthman2012:


God bless you my son.