kestolove95:
if d men don't patronise dem..d business won't strive..nd girls won't engage in it..so blame d men cox dey make d girls engage in it

No o..blame the girls cos these days they deliver it to u at home. No need to go out, home delivery

kmcutez:


So you think believers do not have different opinions as to what constitutes a sin. Even the men of God and the deeply religious argue over some issues, in which one man of God might see an act as a sin and the other man of God might not.

No matter how spiritual one is, one is always a human being first and will always project some level of humanity in interpreting the bible. What if you have different opinions as to what constitutes a sin, would you still push your conscience aside, and be submissive to your believer husband since he does not see the same act as a sin.

That is why all churches have their doctrines kicking against each other. And they still have their back up from the bible.

kmcutez:


I can never be a professional wife because marriage is of a personal nature, so your analogy is way off here.

Okay be a,personal wife,keep your feelings to yourselves and,be submissive.

You are asking if the man beats his wife should she still be submissive,before you got married why didn't you pray for the leading of God,when you help God to speak,be prepared for any outcome in the marriage.
Check the women of old,very submissive,and that doesn't mean they were slaves.

noblegrex:
No doubt. Obamas' so called wife is a male. Obama is a GAY president.

how does dis poo u said relates to the topic..

Midehi:
guys will feel funky now.

waiting to hear comments from the guys *wink*

He's so right! At least, from the Christian point of view. If you follow the biblical injunctions on marriage, u won't go wrong. God has a standard. I mean the Christian God.

no, they do not distract any man from his wife. wait a min... if your phone gets stolen, do you blame yourself for having a phone or you blame the robbers for stealing??

subterfuge:
more than Ten million (10 million) PROSTITUTES (ASHEWO'S) EXIST IN LAGOS STATE ALONE.
THESE WOMEN CAN SLEEP WITH 20 TO 30 DIFFERENT MEN EVERYDAY.
THEY DISTRACT SOME MEN FROM THEIR WIVES

trapQ:
pls be submissive. when your husband beats you, cheats on you left right and center, drinks to stupor, keeps late nights, asks you to cook meals at 2am, just be submissive like a robot. and don't come here crying sooner or later that someone cheated on you, just be submissive.

hypocrite!

You are the hypocrite. Submission is meant for Christians. If you can't submit,keep huffing and puffing in your marriage. Keep fighting with your husband and demanding love. You will die a very bitter woman. Keep hating on Gods laws. Keep attacking men of God and keep suffering.

trapQ:
you're sane unlike some other people on this thread who just concurred to what the pastor said. it takes two to tango. the world is so hypocritical that we think and feel that ONLY women should have good moral conduct, forgetting that we are all humans. a man will cheat, beat, abuse and pounce on his wife at will. society and all her in laws will say FORGIVE HIM, HE'S YOUR HUSBAND. they blame her and accuse her wrongly while the man is applauded.

we have failed GOD

That's what happens when people exalt the word of Men of God more than the word of God who created all men. From a personal point of view, I doublecheck everything I hear from any man of God as it relates with what my bible says and I refuse to follow sheepishly. After all Christ ought to be my perfect role model and every marriage is unique.

A virtuous woman will know when to step in and save the day for her husband, Abigail in the bible readily comes to mind. That's why a good man that wants his marriage to succeed knows he needs to involve his wife in basic plans that will move his family forward. No man is an island

haul:


Point of correction, "so you shouldn't expect submission from me" this your statement is an illusion even danvinci won't paint well.

Ooh misogynistic you say? Well I don't do religion,I believe in conscience which exalt humanity.

I don't care to know the real you or not in relationships cause its really not fascinating to find appealing.

You don't know how you want to be treated cause you stucked in science and history but you stylishly inquiring about religion, its a case of alice in wonderland.

If you apologise or not you owe no one, yes the really want you closer I see, but its too lame too conclude. Go wash your face with water.

Lol and just as expected, you have taken the path of insulting me, it's no shock though.

You brought up the topic of having another personality, I just helped make it clear, you don't have to be fascinated as I don't aim to impress/please anyone on here, especially not people with your kind of mentality/mindset.

I'm a seeker of knowledge so I make inquiries, I was bred with religion, so it's only reasonable to have questions about it, there's nothing stylish in that.

You are not the man in my life so you won't be able to know if my stance on submission is an illusion or not, don't be small minded, open your mind to the possibilities of other worlds outside the one you know.

If you cant have a civil discourse, then we are done talking.

double standards. you're interpreting the bible wrongly. you do know that the bible also said "love your wife even as Christ loves the church and gave himself for it" right? so going by what you said, men should also love their wives whether they are submissive and cheat or not. after all JESUS loved and died for us while we were yet sinners.

ammyluv2002:
Amen! I wish you same too but getting a loyal man isn't the main thing.

The bible made it very clear to be submissive whether he's loyal or not just do your part and be submissive. It's difficult though but with Christ we can do all things. I listened to a Rev Fr yesterday on AIT and he said " You can't make someone change but your acceptance can make them conceive the thought"

freecocoa:


Owu eziokwu na.

Okwara ya akwa nno

Bibol:


That's what happens when people exalt the word of Men of God more than the word of God who created all men. From a personal point of view, I doublecheck everything I hear from any man of God as it relates with what my bible says and I refuse to follow sheepishly. After all Christ ought to be my perfect role model and every marriage is unique

So you support women not being submissive to their husbands? Is that Christs injunction. Let go of your pride and submit to your husband. Pride kills.

martoruky:
You are asking if the man beats his wife should she still be submissive,before you got married why didn't you pray for the leading of God,when you help God to speak,be prepared for any outcome in the marriage.
Check the women of old,very submissive,and that doesn't mean they were slaves.

My mom was very submissive to my dad. He loved her so much and took care of all her needs. He never did anything without consulting her. She believed in him to a fault and never disagreed with him whenever there was a third party.

Now, I am not talking of a dumb woman. She was a member of the state executive, women wing in the Church. At the same time, she was the Vice President of women association in the community. So there, she held her own and was never intimidated by any other. At home, she's submissive to her husband.

The magic is to know who you marry. You don't marry a she-hawk from a wayward family and expect a humble and submissive wife.

dinachi:
So you support women not being submissive to their husbands? Is that Christs injunction. Let go of your pride and submit to your husband. Pride kills.

Where did I ever insinuate that Brother Dinachi of God? Your comments here makes one wonder if truly you are a Christian with how quickly you get provoked and hurl insults at people who have a divergent opinion. God's perfect injunction is to love your wife and submit to your husband. Now read the last sentence very slowly this time. Every Christian should at least try to stick to this and life will be better. I'll ignore the insult as my bible taught me better

By the way you need the Holy Spirit to obey this injunction to the letter because it is in marriage your Christianity will be tested the most

freecocoa:
Lol and just as expected, you have taken the part of insulting me, it's no shock though.

You brought up the topic of having another personality, I just helped make it clear, you don't have to be fascinated as I don't aim to impress/please anyone on here, especially not people with your kind of mentality/mindset.

I'm a seeker of knowledge so I make inquiries, I was bred with religion, so it's only reasonable to have questions about it, there's nothing stylish in it.

You are not the man in my life so you won't be able to know if my stance on submission is an illusion or not, don't be small minded, open your mind to the possibilities of other worlds outside the one you know.

If you cant have a civil discourse, then we are done talking.

Can you point out insults or traces of subliminal? I never intended a pun is just my way of life and I don't know how to say "sorry"

You having questions is quite normal but its funny you have moved from theist to agnostic to atheist who knows what you transforming to next?

Now you taking a sharp subliminal at me by saying "don't be small minded" if I was ever one, I won't take time to write epistles and exhume your previous topics.

We done talking when the convo hits a deadend

freecocoa:
Lol, dude there are phases in life and you are right, I have questions just like everyone does, the difference between other people and I, is that I try to find answers to those questions, if you must know, I was once theist and now agnostic atheist and I am sure I'm a living being.

You really are funny, I have a man dude and it shouldn't come as a surprise should you know how many men I have to say 'No' to many atimes, I don't want to dominate anyone, I just won't also be dominated, I believe in mutual respect and anyone who has a problem with that can go his/her way.

Why won't I want a man? I'm not gay for crying out loud and No, I don't see myself as a man, I am very comfortable being a woman, I just recognise the fact that I don't deserve to be treated with lesser regard because of my gender, we are all equals as humans.

word!frm a great hrt..

trapQ:
double standards. you're interpreting the bible wrongly. you do know that the bible also said "love your wife even as Christ loves the church and gave himself for it" right? so going by what you said, men should also love their wives whether they are submissive and cheat or not. after all JESUS loved and died for us while we were yet sinners.

Keep resisting your husbands authority and keep suffering. Keep challenging him and keep being ignored up. Enjoy your bitterness.
One day your eyes will open......and you will realize that foolish pride has kept you from enjoying your marriage.

dinachi:

Okay be a,personal wife,keep your feelings to yourselves and,be submissive.

Keeping one's feelings to oneself in a marriage breeds serious resentment on the part of the aggrieved person, or you think you are living a utopian world.

fool!!! you're overly useless. it is you that will die a promiscuous paranoid man. did you hear me hate GOD's law?? next time read, comprehend and assimilate before saying nonsense to me.

I'm not suffering, you could be tho... keep wallowing in your stupidity. marriage takes two to work... did you not read the part that said "men love your wives even as Christ loved the church and died for it" ?? you simply just neglected that part like it ain't meaningful. the fact remains that more married men than married women are wayward. QUICK question for you, the past administration that failed , who do people blame for it, Jonathan or Sambo??

PS: I did not attack the man of GOD. and don't @ me cussing yourself

dinachi:

You are the hypocrite. Submission is meant for Christians. If you can't submit,keep huffing and puffing in your marriage. Keep fighting with your husband and demanding love. You will die a very bitter woman. Keep hating on Gods laws. Keep attacking men of God and keep suffering.

trapQ:
fool!!! you're overly useless. it is you that will die a promiscuous paranoid man. did you hear me hate GOD's law?? next time read, comprehend and assimilate before saying nonsense to me.

I'm not suffering, you could be tho... keep wallowing in your stupidity. marriage takes two to work... did you not read the part that said "men love your wives even as Christ loved the church and died for it" ?? you simply just neglected that part like it ain't meaningful. the fact remains that more married men than married women are wayward. QUICK question for you, the past administration that failed , who do people blame for it, Jonathan or Sambo??

PS: I did not attack the man of GOD. and don't @ me cussing yourself

Pride goeth before a fall. Keep challenging the word of God and keep suffering in your marriage. You are angry against God because he declared man the head of the family. Keep wallowing in your foolish pride. A woman who submits to the authority of her man attracts love from him. Christ is the head of man and man is the head of woman. Keep challenging the authority of Gods word and very soon you will join those who do no longer believe in him. It is your cross to carry. Enjoy your bitterness.

stop pouring your stupidity in my mentions. where in my post did you grasp "resisting authority" . I am not synonymous with suffering or bitterness so I don't know what you're talking about. I am living a very happy life.

Nigeria and every marriage will work when people stop having double standards. you were quick to put all the blame on women but flared up when i said men are also at fault. God will not judge men differently, he's no respecter of persons. adultery is adultery whether male or female, stealing is stealing and sin is sin.
its your eyes that needs opening.

dinachi:

Keep resisting your husbands authority and keep suffering. Keep challenging him and keep being ignored up. Enjoy your bitterness.
One day your eyes will open......and you will realize that foolish pride has kept you from enjoying your marriage.

what's even your problem?? who told you I was angry. if you can't comprehend simple English you might to stop mentioning me. who said I'm angry against God or doubting his word? the man is the head of the home, that is a known fact that no one is disputing. but did God tell you in your bible that women are the cause of failed marriages?? only weak men show such cowardice. don't @ me again, I see you're very shallow minded.

dinachi:

Pride goeth before a fall. Keep challenging the word of God and keep suffering in your marriage. You are angry against God because he declared man the head of the family. Keep wallowing in your foolish pride. A woman who submits to the authority of her man attracts love from him. Christ is the head of man and man is the head of woman. Keep challenging the authority of Gods word and very soon you will join those who do no longer believe in him. It is your cross to carry. Enjoy your bitterness.

well spoken!! bless you!

Bibol:


That's what happens when people exalt the word of Men of God more than the word of God who created all men. From a personal point of view, I doublecheck everything I hear from any man of God as it relates with what my bible says and I refuse to follow sheepishly. After all Christ ought to be my perfect role model and every marriage is unique.

A virtuous woman will know when to step in and save the day for her husband, Abigail in the bible readily comes to mind. That's why a good man that wants his marriage to succeed knows he needs to involve his wife in basic plans that will move his family forward. No man is an island

haul:


Can you point out insults or traces of subliminal? I never intended a pun is just my way of life and I don't know how to say "sorry"

You having questions is quite normal but its funny you have moved from theist to agnostic to atheist who knows what you transforming to next?

Now you taking a sharp subliminal at me by saying "don't be small minded" if I was ever one, I won't take time to write epistles and exhume your previous topics.

We done talking when the convo hits a deadend

What was the reason for asking me to go and wash my face with water?, you said I don't know how I want to be treated, you said there's nothing appealing/fascinating about me,you called me lame etc, if all these isn't insulting, then I don't know what is. I'm not asking for an apology as it won't add any value to my life.

It's beats me how you don't know that, for one with a religious backgroud, the journey to atheism starts with the steps I took, change is about the only constant in life and we are all subject to it, so I don't see the point you are trying to make with that.

I implored you not to be small minded because you don't see the possibility of a relationship without submission, when I and other women are in it, being patient enough to read my previous posts doesn't have anything to do with "small mindedness"

The conversation ends when you or I want it to, and right now, I want to go to bed.

freecocoa:
What was the reason for asking me to go and wash my face with water?, you said I don't know how I want to be

The conversation ends when you or I want it to, and right now, I want to go to bed.

I hear you, but you talk to much, hopefully you earn a living from it.

Every mention comes with epistle. Yeah do have a great night#WeUpHere.

trapQ:
what's even your problem?? who told you I was angry. if you can't comprehend simple English you might to stop mentioning me. who said I'm angry against God or doubting his word? the man is the head of the home, that is a known fact that no one is disputing. but did God tell you in your bible that women are the cause of failed marriages?? only weak men show such cowardice. don't @ me again, I see you're very shallow minded.

Again you betray a very shallow knowledge of the word of God because of your foolish pride that wants to destroy you. Proverbs 14 Vs 1 says" every wise woman buildeth her house but the foolish pluck it down with her hands"
I hope your foolish pride will not let you destroy your home with your own hands and yes God outrightly said here that women are the cause of failed marriages.

trapQ:
stop pouring your stupidity in my mentions. where in my post did you grasp "resisting authority" . I am not synonymous with suffering or bitterness so I don't know what you're talking about. I am living a very happy life.

Nigeria and every marriage will work when people stop having double standards. you were quick to put all the blame on women but flared up when i said men are also at fault. God will not judge men differently, he's no respecter of persons. adultery is adultery whether male or female, stealing is stealing and sin is sin.
its your eyes that needs opening.

Proverbs 14 Vs 1, God holds women responsible for failed marriages here but I pray your foolish pride will let you understand it!
Wise women are submissive, foolish women are not submissive so they destroy their homes with their own hands. May you not destroy your own home with your own hands by your shallowmindedness and foolish pride.

kmcutez:


Keeping one's feelings to oneself in a marriage breeds serious resentment on the part of the aggrieved person, or you think you are living a utopian world.

Oh you still dont get it? Self control and maturity involves being able to keep your feelings to yourself sometimes. No wonder you are struggling with being under your husbands authority. You do not have self control.

dinachi:

Oh you still dont get it? Self control and maturity involves being able to keep your feelings to yourself sometimes. No wonder you are struggling with being under your husbands authority. You do not have self control.

Who does not know that self control and maturity involves being able to keep your feelings to yourself sometimes, sometimes being the operative keyword which has been missing in your vocabulary up until now.

kmcutez:


Who does not know that self control and maturity involves being able to keep your feelings to yourself sometimes, sometimes being the operative keyword which has been missing in your vocabulary up until now.

If you have these qualities,why are you still being obdurate about submitting to your husbands authority?