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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:56am On Sep 20, 2015
We all have a choice between supporting corruption/fraud in the name of playing opposition and supporting the anticorruption fight which is noble and patriotic. It doesn't stop us from being opposition rather it build trust and boost our image before the Nigeria public.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by DebateNigeria: 11:02am On Sep 20, 2015
Your last 3 paragraphs says it all. APC and their sympathizer a are a bunch of hypocrites. As for Saraki, I do not have any sympathy towards him. This serves him right. You think you can sink a ship using betraying your associates to promote your selfish interest and karma will just sleep off, no, karma won't. And for those saying APC has started the fight against corruption at home, I disagree completely. If not for the impasse between Saraki and Tinubu, he do be a free man and maybe nominating ministers today.
Like I said earlier, I am indifferent but will support justice and rule of law any day any time.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 11:06am On Sep 20, 2015
hinwazaka:

Instead of running your mouth on this forum, why don't you, TINUBU, PMB, OSINBANJO, LAWAN, GEMADE, and AKANDE go and prove on Monday that you are not the children of OVERUSED HARLOTS. Go and flex your muscle with Saraki. If you know you will go there without your head on your body, then by all means proceed. But if you go there with your head, then I can bet you, you will lose it.
Easy man! Take it cool! Say it in simple sentence! What are you trying to say? I hardly comprehend the gibberish you typed above!
Words of advice: learn to comment with sense.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 11:09am On Sep 20, 2015
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by docadams: 11:09am On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
We all have a choice between supporting corruption/fraud in the name of playing opposition and supporting the anticorruption fight which is noble and patriotic. It doesn't stop us from being opposition rather it build trust and boost our image before the Nigeria public.

Good observation. But remember that prosecution of high caliber corrupt politicians has just started under this dispensation. The train has no coordinates for its motion. Today it's Saraki. Tomorrow it may be GEJ, Amechi, PEJ or any other person deemed to be corrupt. I hope we maintain the same uniform stand
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 11:13am On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
We all have a choice between supporting corruption/fraud in the name of playing opposition and supporting the anticorruption fight which is noble and patriotic. It doesn't stop us from being opposition rather it build trust and boost our image before the Nigeria public.
Nice observation! Healthy opposition is needed to ensure good governance. Constructive criticism is what we are asking for, not destructive type!

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by DebateNigeria: 11:16am On Sep 20, 2015
docadams:


Good observation. But remember that prosecution of high caliber corrupt politicians has just started under this dispensation. The train has no coordinates for its motion. Today it's Saraki. Tomorrow it may be GEJ, Amechi, PEJ or any other person deemed to be corrupt. I hope we maintain the same uniform stand
Off course, we will, provided it cut across. Have you forgotten so soon the president said he won't probe beyond 2011 (only Jonathan's administration), but currently probing the senate president that served alongside Obasanjo (2003). If they can dig out stuffs about the senate president why not do same across board. This probe should start from 1999 at least. So all those who have siphoned our money be brought to book and jailed.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:17am On Sep 20, 2015
docadams:


Good observation. But remember that prosecution of high caliber corrupt politicians has just started under this dispensation. The train has no coordinates for its motion. Today it's Saraki. Tomorrow it may be GEJ, Amechi, PEJ or any other person deemed to be corrupt. I hope we maintain the same uniform stand
As long as prosecution is done through the courts and not pages of Newspapers, I'm 100% in support. What I am not in support of is Newspaper prosecution. Partisanship doesn't mean we should throw away sense of patriotism and morality. However, we shall hold Buhari to spread his prosecution across board.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by anonimi: 11:19am On Sep 20, 2015
adeyemi2015:

You wouldn't change! grin grin


That is why I am not with APCheat. cheesy
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by kobe79: 11:20am On Sep 20, 2015
Oh its [size=18pt]TonyeTHEBASTARD[/size]

[size=22pt]GERRARAHIA[/size] JOOORRR
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by hinwazaka: 11:22am On Sep 20, 2015
adeyemi2015:

Easy man! Take it cool! Say it in simple sentence! What are you trying to say? I hardly comprehend the gibberish you typed above!
Words of advice: learn to comment with sense.
You don't understand local parlance and you are here commenting. I pity you
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by docadams: 11:25am On Sep 20, 2015
DebateNigeria:

Off course, we will, provided it cut across. Have you forgotten so soon the president said he won't probe beyond 2011 (only Jonathan's administration), but currently probing the senate president that served alongside Obasanjo (2003). If they can dig out stuffs about the senate president why not do same across board. This probe should start from 1999 at least. So all those who have siphoned our money be brought to book and jailed.

In other words, you are proposing prosecution of corrupt persons by quota system.

Cc: TonyeBarcanista
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 11:28am On Sep 20, 2015
anonimi:



That is why I am not with APCheat. cheesy
I appreciate your maturity man! You and I have nothing to gain from the either Parties. What we are asking for is; good governance and the dividends of democracy spreading across the classes and regions respectively.
Whoever loots should be brought to justice whether in APC or PDP!
If Buhari is also found guilty based on your "evidence" then he should be tried! No corrupt Politician should be left untried!!!!!

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by DeltahArmy(m): 11:28am On Sep 20, 2015
Good and objective writeup, Saraki should respect himself and tow the path of honour.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by docadams: 11:30am On Sep 20, 2015
DebateNigeria:
As for Saraki, I do not have any sympathy towards him. This serves him right. You think you can sink a ship using betraying your associates to promote your selfish interest and karma will just sleep off, no, karma won't.
Like I said earlier, I am indifferent but will support justice and rule of law any day any time.

Well spoken.
Maintain same stance no matter where the pendulum swings next.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 11:31am On Sep 20, 2015
kobe79:
Oh its [size=18pt][b]TonyeTHEBASTARD[/size][/b]

[size=22pt]GERRARAHIA[/size] JOOORRR
Your comment shows you didn't read the post
You should have just booked a place and comment after reading it! The bolded isn't ideal dude! It won't make 1 naira equals a dollar.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 11:33am On Sep 20, 2015
hinwazaka:

You don't understand local parlance and you are here commenting. I pity you
Noted!
Gonna start receiving a lesson on the "local parlance"
Thanks!
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Lanceslot(m): 11:35am On Sep 20, 2015
Nice write up......
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:35am On Sep 20, 2015
docadams:


In other words, you are proposing prosecution of corrupt persons by quota system.

Cc: TonyeBarcanista
Lol @ Quota system. Nigeria has gone past the phase of shielding corrupt individuals using different strategies/tactics. This is not even a probe but prosecution. This is one event that I will always support. He should explain himself to the judge irrespective of his relationship with some APC strongmen.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by anonimi: 11:40am On Sep 20, 2015
adeyemi2015:

I appreciate your maturity man! You and I have nothing to gain from the either Parties. What we are asking for is; good governance and the dividends of democracy spreading across the classes and regions respectively.
Whoever loots should be brought to justice whether in APC or PDP!
If Buhari is also found guilty based on your "evidence" then he should be tried! No corrupt Politician should be left untried!!!!!


Bro, thanks for the compliments.
I SUSPECT that Saraki and Buhari are both very CORRUPT. However we need to allow our LAWS deal with each situation appropriately. That is how OUR society can get better.
If you google anonimi saraki sfu efcc you will probably come across where I joined the lynching mob on Saraki but in this circumstance it is about a CABAL trying to scuttle our democratic INSTITUTIONS for their own personal agenda. I will resist that as much as God allows me to!

It is up to those who understand these distinctions and who want real progress for our country like you do to SHARE your knowledge far & wide.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 11:47am On Sep 20, 2015
chukwudi44:
Thanks for your advice but the fact remains that Saraki will never resign neither will his transducers find the required nos to impeach him!!

I am sure he doesn't need to be impeached before he is removed as Senate president if found guilty. he doesn't enjoy immunity.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 11:53am On Sep 20, 2015
anonimi:



Bro, thanks for the compliments.
I SUSPECT that Saraki and Buhari are both very CORRUPT. However we need to allow our LAWS deal with each situation appropriately. That is how OUR society can get better.
If you google anonimi saraki sfu efcc you will probably come across where I joined the lynching mob on Saraki but in this circumstance it is about a CABAL trying to scuttle our democratic INSTITUTIONS for their own personal agenda. I will resist that as much as God allows me to!

It is up to those who understand these distinctions and who want real progress for our country like you do to SHARE your knowledge far & wide.

So why did he refuse to appear before the Code of Conduct Tribunal last week? How do u try somebody if they refuse to appear in court. No person or group of people is greater than the laws of the land. surely you have heard of contempt of court right? where the presiding judge can slam you in prison for a few weeks for contempt.
days of impunity are over. get with the new times.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by vivalavida(m): 11:53am On Sep 20, 2015
hinwazaka:

We are not joined at the hip with Barcanista. It's normal if we disagree on issues from time to time. The fact we are rooting for the PDP, doesn't mean we should always follow the same path. In fact it helps to breed trust and independence. What is abnormal, is you and your ilk boarding the same bus every time, even when your intention is to head to Cele, but the bus is plying the Lagos-Badagry expressway. So long as JAGABAN orders you to get on, you will board the bus, no questions asked. That to me is the lunacy of an entire tribe.

Gbam!!!
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by stexsy(m): 11:59am On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Since Tuesday last week the media space has been filled with it issues that borders on the 13 count charge which include alleged false declaration of assets and corruption against Senate President Bukola Saraki by the Code of Conduct Bureau. As most of us are aware, the event took a new shape when the Code of Conduct Tribunal (CCT), headed by Justice Danladi Umar, had, in his ruling on Friday, ordered the IGP and other security agencies to arrest Saraki and produce him before it tomorrow (Monday) upon request by the federal government. This order and subsequent bench warrant followed Saraki’s failure to appear before the tribunal for arraignment. The time has come for Bukola Saraki to choose between the path of honor and that of dishonor.

The Path of Honor:
For a senate president or any top official of the State to be enmeshed in such controversy, the honourable path is simply to voluntarily resign from his high office and respond to the charge against him. Should Bukola Saraki do this, it will send a message that he is not absolutely morally bankrupt. He will not be the first parliamentary leader to tow this path. In July 1999, the Speaker of House of Representative Hon Salisu Buhari resigned after allegation of academic falsification. On 8th August 2000, Deputy Senate President Haruna Abubakar and Majority leader Samaila Mamman resigned their positions on allegation of fraud and corruption levelled against them. In April 2005, Senate President Adolphus Wabara stood down from his position to face allegation of receiving N50m bribe(along with 7 other legislators) from the disgraced Education Minister Fabian Osuji. On October 30, 2007, House of Representative Speaker Hon Patricia Etteh and her Deputy Babangida Nguroje resigned from their positions over allegation of inflating contract. Saraki has the option of emulating his parliamentary predecessors and save some part of his integrity.

The Path of Dishonour:
If the Senate President insists on ignoring the noble path (above), then he's only threading on a path of dishonor. If he chooses this path, he will not be the first top parliamentarian to do so. In August 2000, former Senate President Chuba Okadigbo was impeached over allegations of fraud after ignoring calls for resignation. He tried using every available means to escape and hold his position to no avail. His predecessor in office Chief Evans Ewerem was equally impeached in November 1999 for age and academic falsification. This is a disgraceful path. It will be more disgraceful should Saraki be facing trial as incumbent Senate President.

The Immaterial Excuses:
The excuse that the allegations against Senator Bukola Saraki was an offence that he allegedly committed in May 2003 is not only immaterial but also intellectually insane. As the Executive Governor of Kwara state between May 29, 2003 and May 29, 2011, Bukola Saraki enjoyed immunity as enshrined in the 1999 Constitution of Nigeria. Saraki lost that immunity on May 29, 2011 after vacating the seat as the Kwara number one man. That the CCB decided to institute his prosecution four years after losing immunity is highly commendable. Moreso, crime have no expiry date as long as it hasn't been cleared by a court. The argument that it was a 2003 case hold no water.

Some other of his supporters alleged witch-hunt by some power blocs within his party. This allegation whether true or false is also immaterial and is an insult to the sensibilities of Nigerians. This has always been the excuse of politicians and prominent people whenever their sins found them out.

Let us recall that in 2005, then Governor of Bayelsa state Alamesiegha was asked to resign and was subsequently impeached after he was indicted for money laundering in the UK. He blamed his political differences with President Obasanjo as the cause of his travails. When James Onanefe Ibori was declared wanted by the EFCC in April 17, 2010 over allegation of corruption, he accused EFCC of flouting due process and blamed his travails on Acting President Goodluck Jonathan whom he accused of witch-hunting him. He eventually fled the country to UAE, was arrested there and extradited to the UK, where he's serving jail term. Disgraced exGovornor of Adamawa state Murtala Nyako blamed political motivation behind his travails instead of responding to the corruption allegations levelled against him. When ex-Governor Sule Lamido's sons were convicted in 2013, he blamed it on his differences with exPresident Jonathan. He has also blamed his ongoing corruption trials on political witch-hunt by the APC. Ex-Governor of Rivers state Rotimi Amaechi is blaming political witch-hunt instead of submitting himself to Rivers state government probe and responding to corruption allegations against him. The case is not different from Raji Fashola who is blaming political differences instead of responding to the issues of OVER inflated contract during his administration. Olabode George that was convicted on allegation of contract splitting also blamed his political differences with Bola Tinubu. If you ask the disgraced exIGP Tafa Balogun, he will tell you that his travails was 'politically motivated'. Stella Odua and Buruji Kashamu are also alleging the same thing, "politically motivated".

Lai and Metuh Should Respect Themselves
It is embarrassing that Chief Olisa Metuh and Alhaji Lai Muhammed are trying to play to the gallery. Just yesterday, Metuh re-echoed the 'political motivated' song, while Lai Muhammed attempted to score point through hypocrisy. While Metuh should be reminded that his sermon that Saraki is being witch-hunted is lame, Lai Muhammed and the ENTIRE APC should be reminded that they were active backers of corruption during PDP administration. For instance, in July 2014, the APC Chairman John Oyegun held a press conference to lament the impeachment of Murtala Nyako. In his words...


Earlier before Oyegun made that statement, APC Governors through Rabiu Kwankwaso also tried to shield corruption by accusing PDP/GEJ of 'witch-hunting' Nyako and pledged support to him www.leadership.ng/news/377523/apc-govs-solidly-behind-nyako-kwankwaso.

Earlier in the administration, the government withdrew the corruption charges against Timpre Sylva of APC. The APC governorship candidate in Kogi state, Pa Abubakar Audu is also standing trial for corruption. It is advisable that both parties stop playing politics with everything. The law MUST take its course.

Finally, Nigerians of good conscience are enjoined to support constitutional process against corruption for a better country. As for Bukola Saraki, he has the choice to decide between the path to take; will it be that of Honour or that of Dishonor?



May God Bless Us All
you are good, bro
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by docadams: 12:00pm On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Lol @ Quota system. Nigeria has gone past the phase of shielding corrupt individuals using different strategies/tactics. This is not even a probe but prosecution. This is one event that I will always support. He should explain himself to the judge irrespective of his relationship with some APC strongmen.

Saraki is not on my sympathy list, bro. Our major problem is not necessarily with the judiciary but, rather, the politicization and the religious and ethnic coloration of attempts to bring known and proven political criminals to justice. All Nigeria politicians are rotten to the bone. I don't care who is docked on account of corruption or the order they are prosecuted. If GEJ is docked tomorrow I'll applaud the effort so also if it's Amechi or Fashola.
If only PDP or APC members are prosecuted by this regime I don't give a damn.
What I crave for is a stem in the tide of corruption.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 12:03pm On Sep 20, 2015
anonimi:



Bro, thanks for the compliments.
I SUSPECT that Saraki and Buhari are both very CORRUPT. However we need to allow our LAWS deal with each situation appropriately. That is how OUR society can get better.
Glad you admit Saraki is corrupt grin
He learns politics from his late Dad and he's gonna do everything humanly possible to escape being tried. But we will be celebrating "madness" if he's not tried so as other corrupt Politicians.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by princemillla(m): 12:07pm On Sep 20, 2015
Go d bless you barcanista..... This indeed neutral
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Obiagu1(m): 12:09pm On Sep 20, 2015
@ TonyeBarcanista

I don't know why you irritate me. I know when you joined NL as Barcanista if you are the same person.

My opinion about you is that of a snake, a turncoat, backstaber, no morales, no principles, no conviction, no direction and no stance; forever meandering from one sphere of events, opinion, power in place etc. to another.
You are worse than a Yoruba man!

I thought you quit! Why are you here?
Still looking for a political appointment?

You'll never be like Beaf!
He was a man of principle and a legend on NL.



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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Bevista: 12:15pm On Sep 20, 2015
superstar1:
This is your best, objective and sane write up for the year.

Better put, this is your only objective and sane write up for the year, so far.
If all Wailing and Masturbating were done this way, then one would proudly be Masturbating Wailer.

Brilliant, unbiased and balanced writeup. Can't believe I am completely on the same page with the @OP on this one.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:19pm On Sep 20, 2015
Lol... You DON'T know me and Maybe you might still not know me. You rant and curse without substance. What I say in public, I've said in private (ask people that knows me). I don't do double-face nor "stab, lack principle nor conviction". If I lack these principle/conviction, trust me I'd have been rich by now. Like I said, you DON'T know me. Anyway, I'm 100% committed to the rebirth of PDP and I am/will always be Barcanista not any other person.

Now run along and quit the hate... I care not! Permit me to ignore you indefinitely Sir grin
Obiagu1:
@ TonyeBarcanista

I don't know why you irritate me. I know when you joined NL as Barcanista if you are the same person.

My opinion about you is that of a snake, a turncoat, backstaber, no morales, no principles, no conviction, no direction and no stance; forever meandering from one sphere of events, opinion, power in place etc. to another.
You are worse than a Yoruba man!

I thought you quit! Why are you here?
Still looking for a political appointment?

You'll never be like Beaf!
He was a man of principle and a legend on NL.



Cc:
gunuvi Truckpusher Rozayx5 bomsilaga exxel erunz dunsman Nigerianvenom Ishiamu Phockphockman, nwadiuko1, ibokUtoroh, Koded, Ecoterrors, iPrinz20 Aprokoman, Whynotthetruth, Dearpreye, Firefire, Francizy, Temitemi1, Hinwazaka Ecoterrors, Dumkem21 Biafranqueen, Mogidi, Mizmycoli, IsraeliAirforce, Candyrain, Ambivert, Rose2014, Provacateur, Opiaoku, NDPVF, Anonimi, Engineerboat, Talktimi, ahaika23, coolestrogue APCSucks Emperortj93 DebateNigeria and all patriots

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by MizMyColi(f): 12:32pm On Sep 20, 2015
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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by anonimi: 12:36pm On Sep 20, 2015
MizMyColi:
Bros, please let Barca be. Please.
Before we go all ballistic on one another, please ask whether or not your words are intended to cause him to be better and inspired (assuming he is the kind of person you are painting him as).

I don't like all this type of open judgement, especially when it comes from one of our own to another of our own.

Pain inflicted on others is pain inflicted on self, whether we realize or not.
Please we can do better.

Thanks for your post, especially the bold portion.
Nothing to add.

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