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| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Eziachi: 2:42pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
theDEVILisHERE:We stop fighting to preserve a human generation to take the fight in another fashion across the finishing line. Few more years or even months of fighting would have resulted in world's first successful hundreds per cent genocide. Ikemba left, so that the issue will no longer be about him, to allow us to recover without having to worried about the possible outcomes his death in the hand of Nigerians would have done to our psyche forever as a possibility, being the face of Biafra. Moses took the ancient Israel across the red sea but it was Joshua that led them into their promised homeland. Of all the nearly a million that crossed the dry sea bed of the red sea, only 8 out of them entered the promised land. The war in the 60s wasn't really about freedom, it was mainly about survival in the face of little alternatives, but we knew when to stop. Things are different today and the world is equally different from those of my time. |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by omonnakoda: 2:42pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Eziachi:The problem with the Biafran agitation is that your folk have no plan.Why all these nostalgic talk about arms.Why demonizing Yoruba.Yoruba have no need for you folk in the same country that is the truth.However if you want to break away you must follow due process. That means getting your elected representatives to unite and speak with one voice.How many of your 5 State Houses of Assembly has ever passed any resolution.? At any rate what has been done to test the popularity of the idea objectively among your folk. Certainly 100% do not buy into but are those that do even in the majority and by HOW MUCH. The loudest are not always in the majority.These are things that need to be measured and when others see you measuring these things(There is no law against that) they will take you more seriously. Starting a radio station and calling everyone name is just like drawing obscene graffiti on toilet walls. How many of your senators have voiced an opinion on the subject. Let us arrive at a point where you can say to the whole world " We have tried to hold a legitimate plebiscite on self-determination and denied by the Nigerian Government" that should be the first step before talking of weapons and war. However if you belief that war should be Plan A then you are in manifest error and very far astray |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by theDEVILisHERE: 2:45pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Shymm3x:What ever the case may be The IPOB's method is working So I suggest they continue with it If possible move it into a high gear The aim is to free yourself What ever means that practicaly works You use it |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by omonnakoda: 2:46pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
![]() Eziachi:Do you really believe the red sea fable Seriously? |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Eziachi: 2:54pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:You are very correct, we have the zeal but little plan. But I can assure you that it's changing, though slowly. In the time past, it use to be regarded as something for the Okada riders and trouble makers. But now, the middle class are slowly coming in. I was in the US recently for the world Igbo Congress. I must say that am miffed by what I saw. A far cry to what I witnessed in 1999, when I last attended. The senators or political elite does not count. Do not draw any sort of evidence from their actions or behaviour. They are scared of Biafra more than Nigerians I can tell you that for a fact. My nephew is one of them. I do know what am trying to say. |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Eziachi: 2:56pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:Whether you believe it or not, it's still a historical teaching tool. After all you believed in gravity eventhough no one has seen it. |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by devour129: 2:58pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Viva Biafra ! |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by 2kris(m): 2:59pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
cybertyrant:why will oduduwa wants to leave and emir sanusi lamido will stop them.got me laughing anyway are the under arrest all these while,emmm oga barcanista we need ur help here.emir of illorin,emir of lagos and ibadan loading |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Shymm3x: 3:01pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
theDEVILisHERE:One other thing: I think the three regions that made up Nigeria during the first republic are well structured countries that can thrive, albeit a few groups may have to change regions. That's what Biafra should be about - the old Eastern region and emphasis on the similarities they all share. And you have top reach equity and autonomy for all the groups. If you can go that route - it'll be easier to achieve Biafra or whatever name you want to call the struggle. However, shouting Biafra in a landlocked land, with little or no resources, and faux/vacuous/obtuse bravery - while alienating everyone won't get you lot anywhere. It's basically suicidal. Also, Yorubas are the least of ya problems. The only reason why most Yoruba prefer Nigeria at the moment is cos they believe they're in an advantageous position than the other groups who occupy the country. The Hausa/Fulani might dominate them politically, but they're far ahead of Fulanis economically and academically. And regardless of how much noise Igbos make everywhere - Yorubas know they're still in a better space within Nigeria than Igbos will ever dream of. When you're in a non-achieving space like that - you always get carried away like the one-eyed king in the land of the blind. However, if Igbos were to leave Nigeria tomorrow - best believe Yorubas won't stop you lot, and the plan would be to leave the union as well. Unless you engage in the same adventure that was Ojukwu's Achilles heel and venture into their part of the country. A Yoruba country will always be greater than Nigeria and every sane person knows that. So, you lot also need to leave Yorubas out of all the hate you preach - and focus on fostering brotherhood with folks from old Eastern region. If you're ever going to get ya Biafra - South South holds the ace to that dream and you lot need those people. |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by nochildsplay(m): 3:02pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
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| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by omonnakoda: 3:02pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Eziachi:I think because the last effort was a war effort many people are of the mindset that war is the only way forward. The other mistake you make is thinking you are the only ones that want to get out. There is one thing to have a strategy and another to talk. Actioons must serve a purpose and be part of a coherent plan. From all indications Nnamdi Kanu is a noise maker and a charlatan Perhaps because of the triumphal Ibo mindset you always think there must be winners and loser . It is possible to have a very friiendly and amicable split working to a longer term time table. The political choices the Ibos make show extreme naivety and short term-ism. Keeping a foolish grudge against Yorubas might be emotionally attractive but is not the right strategy but that is the problem.Ibo are almost always sentimental. The political behaviour over the last 4-5 years calls for much reflection |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Ngwaukwu1(m): 3:03pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
GentleToks:You are not entirely correct! I can assure you that there is a gradually increasing interest in the issue of Biafra among the Igbo diaspora and others from the former Eastern region. While some of us may not agree with his methods, Nnamdi Kanu has without doubt contributed significantly in reawakening a desire in a lot of us for a home land which we can proudly call our own. Nigeria in its present state, with its foundational inadequacies and discriminatory attitudes towards the Igbo, is not it. Taking Nnamdi Kanu out of the picture will not quench the growing thirst for Biafra. Instead those that prance around the social media, ignorantly thinking that Nnamdi Kanu equates to Biafra and believe the Biafra agitation will stop, may be shocked that Nnamdi Kanu, dead or alive, will emerge the image of a sacrificial lamb around which will rally a more determined and resourceful group of Biafran agitators. . . |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Eziachi: 3:04pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
omonnakoda:I don't think you are in the possible position to talk about lacking discipline or not be because can you say that you are talking out of experience.? We are not perfect, far from it, but we have actually fought a war. That's on record. The outcome is totally irrelevant and you haven't. And that's a fact |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Nobody: 3:06pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Buhari has always been a Dullard! Arresting Nnamdi Kanu has just confirmed he is a DULLARD RAISED TO POWER 2 |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by omonnakoda: 3:09pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Eziachi:I am talking of political discipline. Were you talking out of experience when you talked about 8 survivors of the Red Sea Crossing? Do not be a hypocrite WE ALL fought that war ,Nigerians I may not be as old as you but no one no matter how old knows everything.Anyway I am old enough to recollect Gowon and so I think I know enough about Nigeria. Why have Ibos been unable to organize themselves politically if not for a lack of discipline? Who are the Ibo political leaders today ![]() The whole Radio Biafra thing is a complete show of indiscipline,meaningless and premature action.Misplaced zealotry which is actually TYPICAL of your folk |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by dyoungkarlmarx(m): 3:14pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
cybertyrant:.A very colossal Amen to that!! |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by theDEVILisHERE: 3:29pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Eziachi:The problem was not with them stopping the fight (they were absolutely right in doing that) The problem was that they did not sustain the struggle (underground ofcourse), reorganise themselves properly, mobilise and relunch the fight for biafra couple of yrs/decades after they stopped fighting (there were several situations in the 70's, 80's, 90's they could probably have taken advantage of) They did not do this because They saw the biafran struggle as a struggle as you said for "survival" (due to the situation surrounding what happened in the 60's) rather see it for what it truely is a struggle for "freedom" They fail to see that the foundational cause of those reoccuring problems as marginalisation, tribalism/ethnic bigotry, religious conflicts etc was their continues slavery within the british contrapment This is what the current generation have realised Hence their determination to restore biafra |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Bryan506: 3:29pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
electrokcoi:aw dumber could u be... ![]() |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by theDEVILisHERE: 3:38pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
[quote author=nochildsplay post=39138291][/quote]Slavery is worse than death Everyone dies eventually anyway You can ask the first african slaves that came to america |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by nochildsplay(m): 3:45pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
theDEVILisHERE:
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| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by calebbintus: 3:51pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
EasternLeopard:Same way we ignored Boko Haram and here we are today. Arrest d man pls |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by theDEVILisHERE: 4:02pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Shymm3x:There is nothing like south south (this literally doesn't even make sense) There is only biafra ( you can check the documents the evil british signed when they first came to make a business deal in that part of the world) They already existed as a nation (even before the british) The biafrans are doing every thing to free themselves from the imperialistic slavery called Nigeria Let the other groups do theirs Remember each group has their different history with how they got enslaved within the contrapment If the other groups are not ready They should not disturb the biafrans from getting their freedom since they are not couragious enogh to do what's right for themselves |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by samplegirl(f): 4:03pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
oduastates:Do you know a country called Southern Sudan and where it is situated? |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Shymm3x: 4:28pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
theDEVILisHERE:My use of "South South" is within the Nigerian geographical quagmire as a pseudonym for the non-Igbo groups that were part of old Eastern region. Obviously, I know the term "South South" doesn't exist in geography and you need to read my post clearly to understand the context in which I used the term. Anyway, I would say whatever path you lot choose you achieve ya Biafran dream isn't my business. I'm just fascinated by the revolutionary idea behind it, and the humanity in me is just telling to speak on it, cos the whole thing looks like a suicide mission. You just can't like folks who look like you self-destruct, with the hopes of millions. Hence I had to dig deep into mental archives and try to posit certain things I read in the past about great revolutionaries. You know, a few years ago, from my late teens to like age 22 - when I was deep into black power and black consciousness - I had read books and watched documentaries about great revolutionaries like: Lenin, Karl Marx, Chairman Mao, MLK, Malcolm X, Noble Drew Ali, Fard Muhammad, Marcus Garvey, Sankara, Lumumba, Black Panther Party, Steve Biko, and Che Guevara. One story that struck me and I'll always use as a talking point (the story that moved me away from that path - though I'll always have a revolutionary mindset) was Che Guevara's adventure in Congo Kinshasa. And I think I explained what happened to him to you and FrankAba1 yesterday and, I used it to buttress my point. I think before you lot embark on this adventure, all IPOB leaders need to read about all these revolutionaries and study them. Then pick up Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" and study that as well. Emotions won't get you victory especially when you're going against a bigger/larger opponent - patience will. |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Nelly179(m): 4:29pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
biafra al d way . . . . . . |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by xklucvG: 4:34pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
cybertyrant:Ameeen! |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by xklucvG: 4:35pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
cybertyrant:Biafran Nostradamus has spoken and so shall it come to past. |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by xklucvG: 4:39pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
jhydebaba:Shut up! your shameless Nigerian Govt that has not been able to finish Boko Haram. |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by Trustworthiness: 4:47pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
EasternLeopard:You don't need to worry yourself. He will not be killed but he will be kept where people like him belong. While other noises will be ignored until another person like him rises up again. And he or she will be kept where he or she belong. While other noise makers and wailing wailers make their noise, they will be ignored again. So shall they be treated. Animals. |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by theDEVILisHERE: 4:56pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Shymm3x:The IPOB have done their homework They are prepared for their struggle (evidence being every thing they said will happen has happened) If you are not related to their struggle don't worry about them Worry more about the struggle of your own people The success of the ipob movement is what placed them presently as the front runner for the biafran struggle (there are still other movements) The biafrans know themselves (irrespective of different nigerian concuctions) and have decided to use the ipob formatt So far so good It is working So don't worry about them Let them worry about themselves |
| Re: "Nigeria Finally Plays Into The Grand Strategy Of Biafrans" - Vanguard by alphalpha(m): 5:05pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
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