superstar1:
This buttress the fact we have always been telling some chest beating nyamiris that the entire oil production of SE is not up to that of SW.

For your sad information, Lagos is joining in December with a considerable reserve in Ogun.

Who God has blessed, no man can curse and haters can only keep hating

scholes0:


SK was built by the Americans to prove a point. North Korea used to be better.
Same way the West industrialized Japan.

Eeven the iIndustrial revolution in places like the Uk was achieved off the back of Hydrocarbons like coal and the abundance of other NATURAL RESOURCES... For resource poor places in Europe, most of the resources they used in their industrialization stage came from places like Africa, South America, india , the Caribbean etc.

I would rather be a country like Canada than a country like Poland.

Obiagu1:


Seriously, why should I continue discussing with you.
The West industrialised Japan
I rest my case.

I wouldn't even want to go into South Korea stuff again because l'd addressed that earlier on NL

scholes0:

pazienza:


The following link leads to Privy Council decision on Port Harcourt and the representatives of ikwerre, Diobu or Port Harcourt and other Division with then Owerri Province.
http://books.google.com/books?id=hoHv7__4TXYC&pg=PA268&lpg=PA268&dq=privy+counci\l+decision+on+port+harcourt/
nigeria&source=bl&ots=FbdqVtjBqP&sig=plBZvCv0CIw-b10\zu5DL5fM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jyycUZraBZTryAHe8IGoAQ&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=pr\ivy%20council%20decision%20on%20port%20harcourt%2Fnigeria&f=false

Other sources are:
University of California Press Berkeley and Los Angelis California

University of California Press Ltd London, England
Copyright @ 1974 by the Regents
of University of California
ISBN: 0-520-02451-6
Library of Congress Card Number : 73-76115
Printed in United States of America

The following are from the above references. They
clearly indicate that ikwerre Chiefs, Ezes, Legislatures and Municipal councilors from time immemorial claim Igbo as their tribe. These ikwerre Legislators, Parliamentarians and Municipal Councilors maintained that they are Igbo as the records indicate. I challenge Mr. Emeka Okala and Dr. M, D. Amadi to produce records with similar information in support of their claims.

In 1922/23 Port Harcourt in ikwerre land became the Capital of Owerri province --- Page 269
Appendix 2, Page 246
Port Harcourt Parliamentarians from 1945 - 1966
Appendix 3 Page 247
Port Harcourt Municipal Councilors 1955 ----
1958
D.D.”Diobu” Nsiegbe ikwerre Ibo Port
Harcourt Division
J.W. Ogbondah ikwerre Ibo Diobu
Port Harcourt Division
Appendix 4 Pages
248---250
Port Harcourt Municipal Councilors 1958 ---
1961
E Aguma: ikwerre Ibo Diobu
Port Harcourt Division
M.W. Dickson: ikwerre Ibo Diobu
Port Harcourt Division
G.P.A. Nwagwu: ikwerre Ibo Diobu
Port Harcourt Division
J. A. Otuonye: ikwerre Ibo Diobu
Port Harcourt Division
R. O. Owuru ikwerre Ibo Diobu
Port Harcourt Division
Appendix 5 Pages
251 – 253
Port Harcourt Municipal Councilors 1961 –
1964
S.W. Atako: ikwerre Ibo
Port Harcourt Division
R. Chikere ikwerre Ibo
Port Harcourt Division
E. Chukwu ikwerre Ibo
Port Harcourt Division
Chief Joseph Wobo ikwerre Ibo
Port Harcourt Division

kel4soft:


Can you elaborate how Oil in Ondo state is a rogue. Is it not their oil? Came here to learn please no insult intended.

pazienza:
Moreover, HopeAthand after your blunder of trying to place the negative baggage of the abandoned property saga perpetrated by the Ijaws with the help of the FG on innocent Ikwerre people, one would think that you should be too ashamed to continue with your Ikwerre claiming impostor work.

But apparently, you are not only fraudulent, you lack shame too.
Not that I am surprised.

HopeAtHand:


Who then advocated for Ikwerres to be recognised as separate from the Nigerian cinstitution.Is it Igbos?? Where Ikwerres active participants in the COR state creation?? In the truth and reconciliation commission, did Elechi Amadi exolain himself as Igbo or Ikwerre..When Amaechi was screened in the National Assembly did he refer to his people as Ikwerre or Igbo.

You are using the generalisation of the british to Peg Igbo on Ikwerre.The british who would say and do anything for convenience..Wasnt the british the same people who lumped dissimilar people people into Nigerian state, didnt they lumped dissimia people into Eastern Region, why cant they then lump ikwerre and igbo together.

Just get on with reality, we are not the same people.

HopeAtHand:
Rivers state can easily topple Akwa Ibom as the no1 oil producing state if Buhari should reverse the decision that ceded our oil wells to Bayelsa and Abia..i do no know the output from those wells but Amaechi crying out means its substantial.

And if the state govt and oil companies can work out a formula to arrest youth restiveness and pipelines vandalism, we can improve on current output...River has most of its oils onshore while Akwa Ibom is offshore.

pazienza:


Funny enough that the same British could separate tiny Ogonis who happened to be Igbo neighbors from Igbos, but magically couldn't separate a bigger Ikwerre. You have no point, and a simple look at Ohanaeze Ndiigbo executives will show that Ikwerres have continued to identify with Ndiigbo, as Ikwerre sons continue to be part and parcel of that Apex Igbo organization.

Yes, "we" are not the same, as I know you are not an Ikwerrre.
But I am the same with the real Ikwerres.

HopeAtHand:
Who then advocated for Ikwerres to be recognised as separate from the Nigerian cinstitution.Is it Igbos?? Where Ikwerres active participants in the COR state creation?? In the truth and reconciliation commission, did Elechi Amadi exolain himself as Igbo or Ikwerre..When Amaechi was screened in the National Assembly did he refer to his people as Ikwerre or Igbo.

You are using the generalisation of the british to Peg Igbo on Ikwerre.The british who would say and do anything for convenience..Wasnt the british the same people who lumped dissimilar people people into Nigerian state, didnt they lumped dissimia people into Eastern Region, why cant they then lump ikwerre and igbo together.

Just get on with reality, we are not the same people.

EzePromoe:
[b]Be careful of the nonsense you post... You've not made any port yet that would convince right thinking persons that you're an Ikwerreman. It's not about accepting or not accepting to be Igbo. The manner at which you're hell bent on planting a seed of discord between the Ikwerres and other Rivers men leave much to be desired. You make it look like the Ikwerre people shared no history or have nothing to do with the Igbos from yonder which is false in its entirety. Let me give you an example of my community. The grandfather of our former Royal Highness, Eze Horney Orlu (Eze Gbaka Gbaka) was from Imo state. His father lived and blended with the culture of Igwuruta people. Until his death in 2007, he was adjudged to be one of the best among the kings that had ruled Igwuruta. If the Ikwerres hated the Igbos that much like you're making it to look like, do you think it's possible for the stranger to come and be king in another man's land? There is also this man from Awo Omamma who is married to my cousin. He was born and bred in Igwuruta but in the last general elections, he vied for councillorship. How is that possible if Igbos and Ikwerres hate each other that much? Have you ever seen an Ijaw man or someone from any other ethnicity (let me not go far by mentioning Yoruba or Hausa) achieve that feat in Ikwerre land? What does that tell you about the Igbo/Ikwerre relationship. I'm not always keen to argue anything with you because to me, you're not an Ikwerre man. I'm just concerned because it's my ethnicity that you're dragging to the mud, and many people on this forum are so daft that they fall for it and return the gesture in kind. I know that you're feeling happy with yourself that you're achieving your aims and all I can say to you is 'Well done.'[/b]

HopeAtHand:


If you do not know something, ask questions..

Even if im indifferent to okrikan, Riverians and Ijaws in particular, i cannot simply see something perpetuated by Ikwerres and Ijaws and blame only Ijaws..most of the buildings from mile 3 to 1 and Dline were abandoned by Igbos and distributed to Ikwerres while the ones in towm was distributed to Okrikan, Kalabaris and mainstream Izon..Sincerely, you cant take them back.

Recognise your ignorance and learn, no shame in it..

Abagworo knows Rivers well, he can affirm.

HopeAtHand:


The british lumped us all into eastern region..ijaw Ikwerre, Ogoni, Igbo, Ibibio et al simply because it was convenient for them..they came to Nigeria exploration and not the ethnic makeup of the people.they had no business with whatever wasnt profitable.

Ohaneze whatever means nothing to me.

Igbos arent Ikwerres, so yes, you arent ny brother.

Macelliot:

pls be sincere!

Why was Obigbo secceeded into Rivers state from Abia state, even though, River state is twice bigger than Abia?

HopeAtHand:


The british lumped us all into eastern region..ijaw Ikwerre, Ogoni, Igbo, Ibibio et al simply because it was convenient for them..they came to Nigeria exploration and not the ethnic makeup of the people.they had no business with whatever wasnt profitable.

Ohaneze whatever means nothing to me.

Igbos arent Ikwerres, so yes, you arent ny brother.

HopeAtHand:


The british lumped us all into eastern region..ijaw Ikwerre, Ogoni, Igbo, Ibibio et al simply because it was convenient for them..they came to Nigeria exploration and not the ethnic makeup of the people.they had no business with whatever wasnt profitable.

Ohaneze whatever means nothing to me.

Igbos arent Ikwerres, so yes, you arent ny brother.

Macelliot:

But why?

Know this: the fall of a man is not the end of his life...

HopeAtHand:


rivers when present constitutes the natural boundary between people..

It was done for convenience and not political reasons as you already believe...and i have it on good authority that Oyigbo land belongs to Eleme people..they are customary tenants..

HopeAtHand:


It was partially a payback to the Igbos for their maltreatment of Ikwerres during the days of Eastern Regional govt and also a means of retrieving some part of our ancrstral land.

They way the eastern regional govt sinled out Ikwerres from owning properties in Port Harcourt was very systemic..we never got our CofO and building permits approved in Enugu while Igbos were were filling up the city with buildings..we only watched helplessly and prayed the situation will improve.

The situation never looked like improving until Ojukwu declared a war and lost it...we thank him specially.

pazienza:


Lol! But they never lumped Ogoni into Igbos, they never lumped Efik into Ibibios or Ejagham into Efiks, they knew their details.

Yes, you are right, you ain't my brother, You ain't Ikwerre, so Ohanaeze should not hold any meaning to you.

Macelliot:

Payback!
I never expected such from you...

HopeAtHand:


It was partially a payback to the Igbos for their maltreatment of Ikwerres during the days of Eastern Regional govt and also a means of retrieving some part of our ancrstral land.

They way the eastern regional govt sinled out Ikwerres from owning properties in Port Harcourt was very systemic..we never got our CofO and building permits approved in Enugu while Igbos were were filling up the city with buildings..we only watched helplessly and prayed the situation will improve.

The situation never looked like improving until Ojukwu declared a war and lost it...we thank him specially.

Abagworo:


Before the war Ikwerre was as Igbo as Abakaliki and Ngwa. What happened in Rivers State then happened in Abakaliki and Aba too. Igbos from Nnewi, Nkwerre, Aro or present Imo, Anambra and Ogbo side of Abia were more economically empowered and hence dominated business and politics. It still has not changed today as these people still dominate in land ownership across Nigeria. The only thing that's changed is politics because of indigenisation of Nigerian politics prohibiting non-natives from vying for political positions in Rivers State.

Ikwerre became recognised as distinct from Igbo by Gowon in order to use Port Harcourt as capital of then proposed Rivers State as a war booty for Ijaws.

HopeAtHand:


Nice sermon.

Did Igbos make it easy for Ikwerres to get building permits in Ikwerreland..

And did Ikwerrres benefi in,any way from abandoned properties??

Be candid.

HopeAtHand:



The Ikwerres and Ekpeyes were never an Igbo speaking group.Its not like you lived in Rivers state or you are an Ikwerre..you are simply relying on lies told you by desperate Igbos looking to create a non-existent brotherhood with Ikwerres.

I'm not saying there are no shared words or traditions, neighbors everywhere in the world overtime share some words and form of tradition but saying Ekpeye and Ikwerre speak Igbo as their lingua is an attempt at mischief.

Please and please do not twist issues because of oil.

Abagworo:
My take is that to determine the actual oil inside the States territory, then offshore should be excluded. It is out of place to assign oilfields located outside Nigerian shore to littoral States. Those who supported it erred and it is what led to extreme poverty in the North. All offshore oil belongs to FG while States lay claim to ones within their land boundaries.

Abagworo:


Ikwerres did not enjoy wide spread benefit from abandoned property but some bad men like Bekee benefited.

All the Ikwerre wanted from the bargain was to gain back political control of Port Harcourt and Ikwerre area hitherto dominated by more empowered inland Igbos

Xpaz:

lols.
he said Ekpeye are not igbo.
what a funny dude