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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DollyParton1(f): 8:07pm On Nov 11, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:


The emboldened is an eye-opener.I love this thread,I'm always learning.As per the power issue, well...it seems we're having different opinions but I know Osogbo according to what I've heard (keyword is I've heard) grin has the most stable electricity supply in Nigeria

Sorry to jump in. I heard same thing too. I have a friend who works and lives in Osogbo. She confirmed this.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 8:07pm On Nov 11, 2015
IyaIode:

With the probe into rice waivers, it's almost as if the so called increase in metric tons were actually increase in importation. Those that were given license were busy importing more than their quota while claiming increased local production.

Adesina was fantastic with policies but implementation was very poor. He was the one eyed man in Jonathan's blind administration

I beg to disagree, oh! Adesina tried in the following areas:

1). Breaking the cartel of fertiliser-hoarding businessmen, and ensuring fertiliser got to grass-roots farmers at reduced rates;

2). Getting more people involved in agribusiness, especially packaging and processing of agricultural products;

3). Ensuring enough storage and availability of food despite the huge floods recorded across the middle belt and parts of the south-south in 2012 and 2013;

4). Ensuring improved standards of agricultural products especially the packaged flour products, and dried fishery products etc.

After he left, the fertiliser cabal seems to have come back into play, and the storage of food products has nose-dived as some of the agricultural silos are currently functioning at a lower capacity, than they did before. The problem in the agricultural sector is lack of consistency and sustainability.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 8:09pm On Nov 11, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:

Cc: laudate

I wanted to counter laudate on the statement. electricity in osun is very stable. not just in Oshogbo. most part of osun too. talking about ife, Iwo And ede. I know what ayam saying cheesy
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:09pm On Nov 11, 2015
DollyParton1:


Sorry to jump in. I heard same thing too. I have a friend who works and lives in Osogbo. She confirmed this.


Well.. should we just agree both Akwa Ibom and Osogbo have the most stable electricity supply in Nigeria?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 8:10pm On Nov 11, 2015
@Laudate

I saw ya earlier post. I'm not ignoring you. I just haven't been able to sit down and write a cogent response.

You can see that my posts are somewhat incoherent. I just got in now and I'm about to blow out again to do shopping and run to the gym. But I should reply later tonight cos I'm not working tomorrow and I should stay awake till late to watch NBA. Sorry about that, Laudate Dominum.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DollyParton1(f): 8:13pm On Nov 11, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



Well.. should we just agree both Akwa Ibom and Osogbo have the most stable electricity supply in Nigeria?

Well, dunno much about Akwa Ibom and its electricity.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 8:14pm On Nov 11, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:


The thing is none of these past governors really fit into any of the positions

Most of the appointments were based on their general performance as governors

I think foreign affairs would have made sense too due to his CV but then again the sector is not as crucial as the solid minerals sector

Looking at the appointments,very few of the guys look bright and I feel he was trying to place the bright guys in the crucial sectors

You no wan give Lai mohammed minister for solid minerals na grin grin cheesy


True cos most of them are politicians nominated by their respective state party structures.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DollyParton1(f): 8:15pm On Nov 11, 2015
WIZGUY69:



I wanted to counter laudate on the statement.
electricity in osun is very stable. not just in Oshogbo.
most part of osun too.
talking about ife, Iwo And ede.
I know what ayam saying cheesy
Iwo is definitely not stable.
Shït, those people live in darkness mostly. They need a light. Someone should introduce Jesus, who is the light of the world to them. cheesy cheesy

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 8:15pm On Nov 11, 2015
@ shymm3x
Are you calling Ambode fat boy? grin lol. if he catch you.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by WIZGUY69(m): 8:18pm On Nov 11, 2015
DollyParton1:

Iwo is definitely not stable.
Shït, those people live in darkness mostly. They need a light. Someone should introduce Jesus, who is the light of the world to them. cheesy cheesy


huh _shocked
but when I was there, I experienced stable electricity.
ife nko?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 8:19pm On Nov 11, 2015
WIZGUY69:

I wanted to counter laudate on the statement. electricity in osun is very stable. not just in Oshogbo most part of osun too. talking about ife, Iwo And ede. I know what ayam saying cheesy

Please don't get me wrong! I have NOT said that power is not stable in Osogbo and other parts of Osun State.

I am only saying that power is also stable in many parts of Akwa Ibom, because of the huge power infrastructure in that state, and also because the state govt there chose to invest in IPP such as the Ibom Power Plant. This was given as an example, to show that SW governors can also invest in power generation plants/schemes.

In many parts of Lagos and Ogun, power supply is quite poor. In the Lekki-Epe axis for example, there has been little or no power in Lekki Phase 1, Mayfair, Jakande, Lakowe, Ibeju etc for over 2 weeks. From Festac to Okokomaiko, Alaba, Ijanikin and Apapa, the story is similar. Same goes for Otta, Mowe and Agbara. Poor power supply has been a problem. Only parts of Ikeja, Maryland and I think Ogba have recorded improvements in power supply.

I don't know much about power supply in Ondo and Ekiti states.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:29pm On Nov 11, 2015
Before I forget, let me officially welcome Coded01 and Dollyparton1 to the Commonwealth

Korede ati Dolapo grin grin cheesy

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:34pm On Nov 11, 2015
DollyParton1:

Iwo is definitely not stable.
Shït, those people live in darkness mostly. They need a light. Someone should introduce Jesus, who is the light of the world to them. cheesy cheesy


Ikire is also not stable.

That town na die when it comes to electricity.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 8:35pm On Nov 11, 2015
WIZGUY69:
@ shymm3x

Are you calling Ambode fat boy? grin
lol. if he catch you.

Loool.

Apart from the fat that he's fat - he is moving slow like a fat boy. And that is the game who was brilliant all through school. Some folks are just mere book readers lol. He spend more time trying to critique his predecessor than doing his own thing.

I'm not feeling that guy, man.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by razid: 8:45pm On Nov 11, 2015
Shymm3x:


Fayemi is definitely a brilliant mind and his CV might be the best of lot. However, I just think based on his achievements when he was in the UK and other places - he has everything to take Nigeria's foreign policy to the next level. If we're being honest with ourselves, he failed in Ekiti, hence that "stomach infrastructure" thug was able to wrestle power from APC. I guess that's why I have my doubts about him. But regardless, I'm not really bothered cos folks don't really pay attention to that sector due how dependent Nigeria is on oil.

As for Fashola, it is just natural to be scared once you take emotions out of it - and focus on his career progression/projection to the next level. The power sector isn't Lagos. With that portfolio, he'll have to fight a lot of battles and the average Nigerian will have to feel the impact in real time. That's how they'll grade him. It is basically like throwing yourself open into the court of public opinions, where folks who don't understand anything are the judges and the judgement would be based on the impact you have on their lives. And anything they perceive as failure can be a career killer. I just hope he prevails - he's a warrior for taking something as daunting as that.

Also, I like him as the works and housing minister. That's perfect. Someone just needs to rein the incumbent fat boy in Lagos in, to stop antagonising his superior. Lagos needs Fashola's ministry for a lot of concessions from the FG and they both need to work together. Hopefully, he'll extend a few things to the SW and help in the integration of the region. Nigeria also need new cities and if he can help build a few, that will be nice.

Kemi Adeosun is the star of the list. I like her appointment a lot. But folks will have to be extremely patient with her cos Iweala messed up the country's economy with her voodoo economics and magical numbers -hence the economy is in comatose. She has her work cut out by I believe she has what it takes to excel. It is a tedious job but she should make us proud.

I don't know the rest apart from Lai Mohammed. The man is a parrot and he got the right portfolio.
Well said my brother. Actually the Fayemi governorship was a misnomer. He should have left politics for the politicians. To me Fayemi is not cut out for politics. He is a technocrat per excellence and very good at policy formulation. He could have stayed in the background and allow the likes of Dele Alake, Michael Opeyemi Bamidele to run the show. I could remember when I went to Ekiti state last year for a project. All the people were complaining of was that he speaks too much English. That means his lofty ideas did not resonate with the people. And not particularly in Ekiti where the likes of Fayose has raised the stake on people-friendly governance.

I still have my reservations on that fat guy in Lag. I don't see him raising the stakes like Fashola did. And to make it worse, people are now seriously complaining about him. That is the problem when you succeed someone like Fash. Imagine the current traffic situation in Lagos and Fash still on the sit!

As per Kemi Adeosun, she has the opportunity to prove herself. Her ministry is one hell of a job at this point in time of economic woes and recession. I only pray she lives up to expectation.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by coded01: 9:28pm On Nov 11, 2015
9jacrip:


Eku ale.


Eka ale... wink
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by coded01: 9:30pm On Nov 11, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:
Before I forget, let me officially welcome Coded01 and Dollyparton1 to the Commonwealth

Korede ati Dolapo grin grin cheesy

Ese oh... cheesy
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 9:39pm On Nov 11, 2015
razid:

Well said my brother. Actually the Fayemi governorship was a misnomer. He should have left politics for the politicians. To me Fayemi is not cut out for politics. He is a technocrat per excellence and very good at policy formulation. He could have stayed in the background and allow the likes of Dele Alake, Michael Opeyemi Bamidele to run the show. I could remember when I went to Ekiti state last year for a project. All the people were complaining of was that he speaks too much English. That means his lofty ideas did not resonate with the people. And not particularly in Ekiti where the likes of Fayose has raised the stake on people-friendly governance.

I still have my reservations on that fat guy in Lag. I don't see him raising the stakes like Fashola did. And to make it worse, people are now seriously complaining about him. That is the problem when you succeed someone like Fash. Imagine the current traffic situation in Lagos and Fash still on the sit!

As per Kemi Adeosun, she has the opportunity to prove herself. Her ministry is one hell of a job at this point in time of economic woes and recession. I only pray she lives up to expectation.

Nice.

I hope they all prevail and do us proud.

I just checked Kemi Adeosun's profile and I'm loving the fact that she's not ya typical Bretton woods lackey. Tired of those folks and their agents ruining African countries. Also her background in auditing is definitely needed going forward...I'll like to see how she fares in micro/macro economics and putting Nigeria's economy on the right track. Daunting job based on how they messed up the place and folks need to give her time.

Happy Ondo got the minister for state in the Niger/Delta ministry - nice. We also nicked the health ministry - that is decent as well.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DrMoffy(m): 9:49pm On Nov 11, 2015
9jacrip:
Not to create a debate ground for PdP and ApC folks but I still think Osun people have gotten what they wanted considering the lack of thorough thinking before casting their votes.

I'm not saying Omisore/PDP could have done better or worse but then PDP appeared to have a blue print to keep every part of the state running, they understood the engine pattern of the state and didn't alter it in anyway knowing fully well it would crash at the slightest tweak.

Under Oyinlola, salaries were paid, schools even in their high numbers functioned and a multi campus university was set up and for 4 years, hired the best hands from all over Nigeria and had folks from outside Nigeria back home to lecture and forge a standard for the school.

Aregbe has shattered eveything and I don't see the state coming back considering the debt profile and dwindling oil price which in turn continues to shrink allocations.

APC should forget Osun for the next few years and Aregbe should go ostrich once his tenure finishes. If we had a strong Afenifere, he would have been prevailed upon to set his priorities right.

That state is in a complete mess! Everyone apart from maybe Osogbo has gone back to farming to survive.

The roads he spent money on are starting to get eroded already.

I honestly don't know what Osun can do to get back on her feet except maybe other Yoruba states donate to her cause?
you nailed it bro. the situation is worrisome!
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:59pm On Nov 11, 2015
laudate:


I beg to disagree, oh! Adesina tried in the following areas:

1). Breaking the cartel of fertiliser-hoarding businessmen, and ensuring fertiliser got to grass-roots farmers at reduced rates;

2). Getting more people involved in agribusiness, especially packaging and processing of agricultural products;

3). Ensuring enough storage and availability of food despite the huge floods recorded across the middle belt and parts of the south-south in 2012 and 2013;

4). Ensuring improved standards of agricultural products especially the packaged flour products, and dried fishery products etc.

After he left, the fertiliser cabal seems to have come back into play, and the storage of food products has nose-dived as some of the agricultural silos are currently functioning at a lower capacity, than they did before. The problem in the agricultural sector is lack of consistency and sustainability.
Do you mean maize farmers getting fertiliser for vegetable. Bro you need to speak with farmers and not what you read on newspapers.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:05pm On Nov 11, 2015
zimoni:
In my own opinion, states do not have the fund to generate sufficient electricity for the populace.

What I think FG should do is to scrap the old privatization and issue licenses to IPP firms for various states.

Each IPP company should focus on a state for electricity generation, transmission and distribution.

Firms may merge to cater for a state.

FG must ensure the power firms produce stable electricity, pre-paid meter and utility cards.

Fashola would only supervise the whole process, tell me how he won't succeed if he has the support of Presidency.

Cabals will have no option than to invest into power sector and make more legit money.

The most important thing is political will. If we are willing, we can make it happen. It's not a further maths for crying out loud.
Exactly what the Apc manifesto says, implementation is the key.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:10pm On Nov 11, 2015
coded01:



Eka ale... wink


Eku is the greeting.

There's nothing Eka ale - is ale a fruit to be plucked a material to be folded?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:12pm On Nov 11, 2015
IyaIode:

Do you mean maize farmers getting fertiliser for vegetable. Bro you need to speak with farmers and not what you read on newspapers.

No, I am talking about real-life farmers in areas like Epe, Ikorodu growing cocoyams etc.,

I don't know about farmers getting fertilisers for vegetables.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DollyParton1(f): 10:14pm On Nov 11, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:
Before I forget, let me officially welcome Coded01 and Dollyparton1 to the Commonwealth

Korede ati Dolapo grin grin cheesy

Eseun. Modupe o.
E ku ile o.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by dyn1800: 10:19pm On Nov 11, 2015
Tell them oo my sister.... That man na scam..... He boasted of producing million tonnes of rice daily or whatever.... Yet we dey import bag of rice in millions every day.... No records of export of the so call rice produced here
modath:


I hope people don't crucify me but I don't see Adesina as a game changer coss Agric Reform is supposed to translate into cheaper Foodstuff but I don't see any reversal in that instance.

Sharing phones to farmers !!! undecided

Maybe it could have been higher if he wasn't taking care of that ministry but I didn't appreciate buying a basket of tomato @ 18k ..

& that waiver is completely true..

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 10:21pm On Nov 11, 2015
IyaIode:

Exactly what the Apc manifesto says, implementation is the key.

Good. I never read their manifesto. I campaigned for Jonathan Ologogoro online, the Ologogoro lost to GrandPa.

I wish APC well.

Also, they need to encourage investors to invest in private rail lines.

Lagos-Abuja, Lagos-Calabar, Lagos-Jos(through Ogun, Ondo, Edo, Delta, Anambra, Enugu, Kogi, Benue, Plateau), Abuja-Kano, Abuja-Sokoto, Abuja-Calabar, Abuja-PHC. NorthEast is a no go area for now.

There are lots of Trillionares in this country who do not know what to do with their wealth.

Government only need to create an enabling environment, there is no need to be afraid of sabotage from cabals because most of the cabals are going to show interest and invest into the private rail lines.

Like I'd earlier said, the most important factor is the Political Will. If we are willing, everything is possible.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:22pm On Nov 11, 2015
laudate:


No, I am talking about real-life farmers in areas like Epe, Ikorodu etc.,

I don't know about farmers getting fertilisers for vegetables.
His policies were great but implementation was poor in my opinion. I believe he will do great at the AFDB
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:24pm On Nov 11, 2015
zimoni:


Good. I never read their manifesto. I campaigned for Jonathan Ologogoro online, the Ologogoro lost to GrandPa.

I wish APC well.

Also, they need encourage investors to invest in private rail lines.

Lagos-Abuja, Lagos-Calabar, Lagos-Jos(through Ogun, Ondo, Edo, Delta, Anambra, Enugu, Kogi, Benue, Plateau), Abuja-Kano, Abuja-Sokoto, Abuja-Calabar, Abuja-PHC. NorthEast is a no go area for now.

There are lots of Trillionares in this country who do not know what to do with their wealth.

Government only need to create an enabling environment, there is no need to be afraid of sabotage from cabals because most of the cabals are going to show interest and invest into the private rail lines.

Like I'd earlier said, the most important factor is the Political Will. If we are willing, everything is possible.
Private public partnership is the way to go.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 10:27pm On Nov 11, 2015
IyaIode:

Private public partnership is the way to go.

Yes ma'am.

O di'gba kan na.

Ire oooooooooo.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by coded01: 10:39pm On Nov 11, 2015
9jacrip:



Eku is the greeting.

There's nothing Eka ale - is ale a fruit to be plocked a material to be folded?


Ese... grin
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by jstbeinhonest(m): 10:47pm On Nov 11, 2015
9jacrip:



Eku is the greeting.

There's nothing Eka ale - is ale a fruit to be plocked a material to be folded?


lol
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ritchiee: 10:59pm On Nov 11, 2015
Shymm3x:


Even if Nigeria ever gets serious and put the right structures in place, their style of business will never be able to thrive..

The real merchants are the ones who do legit business and maximise their profits the right way.

However, when you start scamming folks - that's not business.
That sums it up,bruv.It is going to be one helluva task when there are no more Nigerians to scam...

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