Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,152,595 members, 7,816,476 topics. Date: Friday, 03 May 2024 at 11:43 AM

We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. - Politics (5) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. (56979 Views)

Buhari’s Health Sparks Fresh Debate On Leadership In Nigeria - Vanguard / Buhari Receives GLO CAF Platinum Award For Good Leadership / Niger Delta Struggle And Dream Country Is Not Biafra (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) ... (15) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by UncleJudax(m): 9:51pm On Nov 11, 2015
CrazyMan:

Thanks for being able to reason with me on this issue.
I wrote a similar article some months back. My only fear is that since after the Civil war, there has not been a genuine effort from the Federal government to assist in the development of the East.

I don't see the changing now.

But, truth be told, our politicians have failed us.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Ishilove: 9:52pm On Nov 11, 2015
Fantastic writeup. Makes a whole lot of sense.

They want Biafra yet they cannot hold their own leaders accountable for the underdevelopment of the SE

4 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by ikevin(m): 9:52pm On Nov 11, 2015
jossyj:



and you prefer being a slave forever
check your lineage I'm very sure there's madness in your entire local gorvernment
is this how to represent your proposed country? Vile insults, such a pity.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by stagger: 9:52pm On Nov 11, 2015
Etogist:
You are not only a crazy man but a foolish man. Tell me one thing you have benefited as a Nigerian. You want us to remain in this damnable zoological republic. Tufiakwa! God forbid!

And you fool, why did you vote for TA Orji and keep him in office for 8 years? Or where were you when Elechi was governor for 8 years and left Ebonyi state in ruins? He could not even fix the road from Abakaliki to Abuomege junction in EIGHT F***KING YEARS! Yet you expect such governors to rule you in your Biafra and you think you will get a better deal.

All the SE states will collapse without Federal allocation. And you expect to make progress when you create your landlocked Biafra republic? Such fools we have all over the place....

8 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by missKiffy(f): 9:53pm On Nov 11, 2015
kponkedenge:
Biafaud must come, igbos must go shebi u people say Biafra wuld be beta dan dubai oya start going 2 ur erosion land.
Hehehe cheesy "erosion land"
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by ChynoBEATS: 9:54pm On Nov 11, 2015
CrazyMan:

Solution: We are all Nigerians so we should work towards the growth of this country. To my IPOB brothers, I will say sheath your swords. Don't waste your precious lives, MASSOB has followed that path, and today their members in jail are yet to get justice and those that lost their lives as a result of the struggle have been forgotten. If you die in this struggle you will be forgotten, your name wouldn't even be mentioned anywhere as a hero. Our leaders don't care, their kids are all abroad so when a stray bullet from a happy trigger policeman hits you, you're gone. No justice!

Anyi Ga-eme Mbaa Ka Ódi Ukwuu Ma Öbúrú Na Agbúrú Nille Ga Etikota Aka Rúó Órú Ma Gharakwa Ì Na-ata Ndi Ózó Uta Mgbe Ihe Mgberede Dakwasiri Anyi.E Kwenyerem Nigïria Ga Adikwa Ukwúú ÖZÖ.



My brother I'm glad you're seeing what they cant see ... Nnamdi kanu is just pushing us to the edge

With this set of corrupt and unfaithful S.E politicians i wonder if biafra won't end up fighting a civil war years after the freedom


The main issue affecting us arent being deliberated


The whole east lack @ all major angles


The minor tribes arent being catered for


All some mugu do is March for biafra


Ojukwu had a Plan but now in the whole eastern region No one can stand and boast of a way forward for Us


The politicians in our region are busy jumping and squandering what belongs to us


I wonder if there'll be peace when we achieve it





We've Got lots to do




If we really want Biafra



We need to start working Not Talking


I rest my case

2 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by missKiffy(f): 9:54pm On Nov 11, 2015
This op get sense abeg, I know some of them will still insult you but pls don't mind them

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Abagworo(m): 9:55pm On Nov 11, 2015
The truth is that when compared with their counterparts from other parts of the country, Southeast leaders have not performed badly. Also when one compares individual successes by zone Southeast also come tops. The major problem facing the Southeast is lack of federal presence.

What I expected Igbos to have done under Jonathan was demand for federal presence and not appointments. I equally expected Igbos to have met with Buhari prior to elections and demand federal infrastructure in the Southeast.

Igbos have not enjoyed the advantage of proximity to good infrastructure and it is impossible to develop these level of infrastructure with our meagre resources.

3 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by coolzeal(m): 9:55pm On Nov 11, 2015
Ishilove:
Fantastic writeup. Makes a whole lot of sense.

They want Biafra yet they cannot hold their own leaders accountable for the underdevelopment of the SE
Excluding Lagos and Abuja. Can you please roll out any region that is developing more than the Eastern region with facts and source. Tinubu a great thief is still walking freely..

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Raiders: 9:56pm On Nov 11, 2015
CSTR2:
So it is my Igbo brothers that have not smelled the presidency that would resuscitate the EFCC to deal with criminal Igbo governors preying on a weak federal system?
It is my Igbo brothers that have not been president sine 1962 that would chart economic policies that would stimulate growth, devt and then create jobs, develop the country, create modern national transportation network that would create a cyclic chain of growth and development?
It is my Igbo brother that have not even gotten a chance at the presidency that would create a military industrial complex that would create jobs, increase GDP, and a strong industrial base?
The SE gets by far the least federal allocation in this country. What kind of possible serious development do you think those meagre funds can create?
The confab resolution that should give more powers to the state to create enough revenues for development was jettisoned by your president.
So, as much as the SE governors are very culpable, the problem is much deeper.
The problem is not much deeper like you said. The solution to Nigeria problem is bad leadership and not resources control. What have the governors done with the billion of dollars that they have received from the federal government. Why must our governors have to wait from monthly allocations from the federal government before paying salaries and building project? Nigeria constitution is similar to that of the US and all the states in Nigeria have the right to generate internal revenue for their states. How much money have the Eastern states generated for their states and the country. SE don't generate much money and you are the first to shout that SE received less allocation in all the region.

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Mpanyi: 9:56pm On Nov 11, 2015
I wasted my time reading this. All I saw was fear of the unknown boldly written by somebody that is probably in comfort zone like many politicians from SE and beneficiaries of the present system.

How could talk about presidential election during OBJ regime that. was obviously rigged?

3 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by ikevin(m): 9:57pm On Nov 11, 2015
easy
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by MaziOmenuko: 9:58pm On Nov 11, 2015
melzabull:
stop sounding myopic and abysmally silly. What are the remote causative factors that gave rise to the renewed agitation? Issues bordering on lopsidedness, deliberate regional neglect, political marginalisation, unequal representation etc etc

The fundamental issues are still begging to be addressed.

I ask again, who is afraid of equity, fairness and justice??

What

Gej threw the door open for a national convention last year, why were these issues not addressed in the convention? You think what you couldn't achieve in a round table will be achieved by force?

Who is marginalizing you? Are south east states governed by the Hausa/Fulani? Were Igbo's not holding lucrative ministerial positions such as finance, labor and productivity, health, aviation and power in the last dispensation? How many roads did the south east governors build? How many meaningful projects did they complete? You are here crying marginalization while our governors are busy looting us dry, the same set of governors that will grab power when ur fight for Biafra becomes successful.

Abeggii

2 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by bukster(f): 9:58pm On Nov 11, 2015
coolzeal:
[b]2015 index has shown that, South East has the highest level of human development and capital [/b]in Nigeria despite being denied from the scheme of things in all ramifications. Perhaps, until every Igbo man is killed then you will realize how important it is to glamour for Biafra. So, spare me with your bad leadership bull craps and one Nigeria hypocritical campaign speech. Nigeria is a failed state and we want out..

What report? The only report I remember is the UN report that showed that th SE has the highest level of poverty on the south. I also remember statistics from the national statistics agency showing that the SE has the lowest GDP figures in the south as well.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by yommen: 9:58pm On Nov 11, 2015
CSTR2:
The leadership in the SE is a byproduct of the Nigerian system.
Every single inch of that country is governed by terrible leaders.

And aren't ibos part of the Nigerian system? Jonathan was the candidate of ibos' choice yet he did nothing for you. You ibos are more greedy than any other part of Nigeria.

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by jubileesmith(m): 9:58pm On Nov 11, 2015
Hmmmm.....u get tym write dat long note o...y are helpn us think....jst gv us wot we wnt we wud deal wit our shits....
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by FisifunKododada: 9:59pm On Nov 11, 2015
cool I support Biafra. Igbos MUST leave SW, SS and North and go to their SE region.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:59pm On Nov 11, 2015
MaziOmenuko:


Please, which of the oil producing states are you going to drag into the Biafra? You campaigns for the rights for a group to determine where they belong, Rivers State, Delta, Akwa ibom also has a right to determine where to belong and as it is, they are staying put in Nigeria; are toy planning to drag them alongside with you even against their wish?

It is glaringly obvious that you are hoping to sustain the Biafra in your mind with oil from states in Nigeria.

Lol...I laugh at your myopic thinking.

cheesygringrin smh... 1)You accused of deciding for them and also went ahead to decide for them...Ever taken time to see how the protest is being championed by those States you listed? cheesygrin including Bayelsa?...Ask anybody that visited baysela within last week

2)Economy of Biafra isn't dependent solely on oil(which we have in Anambra, Imo, Abia etc)...because we have other mineral resources in abundance eg Granite, coal etc... coupled with entrepreneurial, and commercial ingenuity of Igbo as shown in Aba, Onitsha,etc or technological prowess of Nnewi etc...or agricultural product of Ebonyi, Anambra etc...

You need lots of growing up to do boy!!!...life isn't about oil alone...Nigeria is not better than Switzerland that has no oil...

3 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Smily202(m): 10:00pm On Nov 11, 2015
EUROBOMBER:
@CrazyMan, God bless you. More of us should continue to speak out before people start mistaking IPOB for Igbos.

IPOB is a cult and should be dealt with by the government.

What we need in Igboland is good governance that's all, not Biafra.


These eediots shouting Biafra everywhere cannot tell you categorically and mathematically how and what this Biafra would look like and how it would run.

How would they provide jobs for the massive army of unemployed Igbo youths if Biafra is declared today?

How will they pay salaries?

How will they provide power, good water and all that assuming Biafra starts today?

Who is their foreign ally? They are busy cursing Britain and others!

Who are your local allies? Everybody should get lost, Biafra can survive, we can do it!

These IPOB people are very daft animals I tell you.


You are just ranting as if everything is going well in Nigeria..

Has Nigeria able to provide Jobs for the unemployed No

Has Nigeria able to pay salaries to workers without owing them a penny ?? no.. Rome is not built in a Day .. So when Biafra comes .. Everyone will know it will not be built in one day.. So stop all this hate and reason with ur common sense...

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by marv1: 10:00pm On Nov 11, 2015
Duru1:



From the above rant of an ant, it is clearly you do not understand the relationship between leadership and nation state. It is garbage in garbage out. You cannot arrive at good leadership with a zoo such as Nigeria. Leadership does not make Nigerian society but the dysfunctional Nigerian society cranks out idiotic leadership. In order to even begin to think of good leadership, a change of scenery is absolute in order and in this case, it is disintegration of the zoo called Nigeria. Nigeria created Mallam Rochas Okorocha hence he is bent on keep Nigeria even in its dilapidated state. Any sudden move to Biafra or most admirable to me, Republic of Igbo land, will usher in new and young people that would not want Biafra or Igbo land republic to gravitate towards the state of Nigeria as it is today.
Tell me what u know about biafran war. What is ur stake in this ur strugle and i will take u serious. Else all these rantings about biafra can get anywhere. Its more technical than what u can imagine. The people that fought the first bigfra will neva wish for another one. Almost 90% of Nlands are kids that neva saw biafran war they just heard about it.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by sarutobie(m): 10:02pm On Nov 11, 2015
Mpanyi:
I wasted my time reading this. All I saw was fear of the unknown boldly written by somebody that is probably in comfort zone like many politicians from SE and beneficiaries of the present system.

How could talk about presidential election during OBJ regime that. was obviously rigged?
fear of the unknown indeed..these are the type of people who called Mandela a rebel back then..the naysayers who termed Martin Luther King a menace to the society...but all those people lived long enough to see the errors of their ways.

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by CSTR2: 10:03pm On Nov 11, 2015
sukkot:
GEJ was your igbo brother na. abi why una dey cry for him ? you mean to tell me all this noise you igbos are making over gej and he is not one of you ? gej done use and dump una abi ? walahi this gej na real cunny man
I am trying a bring a serious point here, I don't have time for jesters.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Nobody: 10:04pm On Nov 11, 2015
Even in 1000 years to come,Nigeria will remain worst.I see no good policies,no re orientation of delusional youths who worship politicians as God,no justice,no law etc all I see is tribes claiming to be superior to the others,impunity,looting and lack of prospect.This country is really cursed.
CrazyMan:

Exactly my brother IPOB is an evil cult just like boko haram.

I wonder why the average igbo youth can't even reason. Even if Biafra is to become a reality, now is certainly not the time. Cos we aren't economically capable of shouldering the responsibilities and challenges we're definitely going to encounter.

Let our youths channel their aggression towards our leaders and demand for a better leadership in the south east.

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by MaziOmenuko: 10:04pm On Nov 11, 2015
Abagworo:
The truth is that when compared with their counterparts from other parts of the country, Southeast leaders have not performed badly. Also when one compares individual successes by zone Southeast also come tops. The major problem facing the Southeast is lack of federal presence.

What I expected Igbos to have done under Jonathan was demand for federal presence and not appointments. I equally expected Igbos to have met with Buhari prior to elections and demand federal infrastructure in the Southeast.

Igbos have not enjoyed the advantage of proximity to good infrastructure and it is impossible to develop these level of infrastructure with our meagre resources.

Are you aware that state governments that complete federal projects in their states get refunds from the FG? If all the south east governors put their resources together to build all the federal roads at the south east, they would have gotten a refund from the fg, but no, we get the monthly allocation and pocket it.
Do you know that south east states get the biggest chunk of the ecological fund? How many of them have successfulky utilized the fund to check corrosion in the south east? Why did all the governors keep quite about the Onitsha sea port and they kept shouting about 2nd Niger bridge as if the bridge would have more economic importance than the sea port?

Our problem us our governors, not the presidency!

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by kingzizzy: 10:05pm On Nov 11, 2015
obailala:
But strangely, Igbos have always been an integral part of this 55 years of disastrous nationhood both at the federal level and especially at the state levels?... If these set of people in leadership could be disastrous when they answered Nigeria, what sort of fairy tale miracle will make them saints simply because they change name?... No doubt Nigeria is a british contraption, but you will agree with me that Igbos have also contributed a great deal to the dysfunctionality of this contraption called Nigeria....

Let us forget the federal and focus on the state levels, never has it been heard of since 1960 till date that federal allocations were not paid to Igbo states. So my brother, what did Igbo leaders do with the moneys?... If we had problems managing moneys at the local level, how then would changing of name make us any better?... Why can't these agitations be made against local Igbo leaders i.e. state governors, LGA chairmen, councillors, Senators, Reps and traditional rulers?... Why cant these street agitations be made to force the implementation of the national conference report?

Agitating to force the implementation of the conference report is a cause which both the SS and the SW and most parts of the NC would gladly support and join and in no time, we would be very close to achieving regionalism.

Don't make me laugh. Igbos have been fighting to get out of Nigeria back when it was still a protectorate in the 'Ekumeku war'. We also fought the Biafran war. On both occasions, we gave a good account of our selves but we were outgunned. Igbos are part of Nigeria not out choice but out of 'enforcement'. The bad Governance in Nigeria is out of the inability of Nigeria to work as a nation. Sometimes in life, there are things that cannot work despite the best of intentions. Nigeria is fundamentally flawed, it will never work. The Hausa/Yoruba/Igbo man are as different as day and night and all 3 don't even like each other so where is this miracle you are hoping for going to come from? In Biafra, if my fellow Igbo steals public money, I know where to go and get him. In Biafra, there is no where to hide. Nigeria is a failed British experiment and it is time to divide it into smaller manageable units for effective Governance and one of those units is Biafra.
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by ikevin(m): 10:05pm On Nov 11, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


cheesygringrin smh... 1)You accused of deciding for them and also went ahead to decide for them...Ever taken time to see how the protest is being championed by those States you listed? cheesygrin including Bayelsa?...Ask anybody that visited baysela within last week

2)Economy of Biafra isn't dependent solely on oil(which we have in Anambra, Imo, Abia etc)...because we have other mineral resources in abundance eg Granite, coal etc... coupled with entrepreneurial, and commercial ingenuity of Igbo as shown in Aba, Onitsha,etc or technological prowess of Nnewi etc...or agricultural product of Ebonyi, Anambra etc...

You need lots of growing up to do boy!!!...life isn't about oil alone...Nigeria is not better than Switzerland that has no oil...
that misguided youths are carrying flags on the street does not represent the thoughts of the populace. You talked about diversification, how much of that have your SE governors done. You blame FG for everything.

1 Like

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:10pm On Nov 11, 2015
Ishilove:
Fantastic writeup. Makes a whole lot of sense.

They want Biafra yet they cannot hold their own leaders accountable for the underdevelopment of the SE

cheesygrin Always being a Biafra hater...How can you love me more than myself? ...Whatever leader you have is a function of the system producing them...Grow up babe!!!...Who controls whatever agency or system that will prosecute any corrupt leader?...Can they deal with these leaders outside of the way allowed by the dysfunctional Nigeria system?...BTW Having an individual thread for most of their states here is also a testament of holding their leaders responsible...

3 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by MaziOmenuko: 10:10pm On Nov 11, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


cheesygringrin smh... 1)You accused of deciding for them and also went ahead to decide for them...Ever taken time to see how the protest is being championed by those States you listed? cheesygrin including Bayelsa?...Ask anybody that visited baysela within last week

2)Economy of Biafra isn't dependent solely on oil(which we have in Anambra, Imo, Abia etc)...because we have other mineral resources in abundance eg Granite, coal etc... coupled with entrepreneurial, and commercial ingenuity of Igbo as shown in Aba, Onitsha,etc or technological prowess of Nnewi etc...or agricultural product of Ebonyi, Anambra etc...

You need lots of growing up to do boy!!!...life isn't about oil alone...Nigeria is not better than Switzerland that has no oil...

Lol...read the paragraph I quoted from your post again, you were the one agitating for oil that is not inside your Biafra states. Now you are changing the goal post after being called out.

You are the one that needs growing up because you evidently haven't read up on the Biafra war and how the oil rich states you are currently hoping on abandoned your Biafra struggle when the chicken came home to roost.
For your info, it is still the Igbos at PH that are disturbing the peace of that state with silly street march. Stop decievibg yourself. What we elders see while lying down, you kids will not see even if u climb an iroko.

3 Likes 1 Share

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:12pm On Nov 11, 2015
ikevin:
that misguided youths are carrying flags on the street does not represent the thoughts of the populace. You talked about diversification, how much of that have your SE governors done. You blame FG for everything.

How old are you?...Can states mine or diversify their economy outside of the template of the centre
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by tobiasbeecher: 10:12pm On Nov 11, 2015
Godsate:
One thing I notice about Igbo people is that majority of them lack what yoruba people call 'LAAKAYE'. Though, they are hard working, think that they are wise, argue a lot with their might and still funble at the end. Example is Biafra war and what just happened in just concluded last election. What igbo people need now is good leader that love his people.

This write up make sense no be small.
And you think that Yorubas are wiser than the Igbos? What human endeavour can the Yorubas outdo the Igbos?

2 Likes

Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Nobody: 10:13pm On Nov 11, 2015
nigeria needs a revolution...we all (if not because of divisions) should come together and claim nigeria...this country would never move forward until we take it out on our leaders...i agree with the OP.... angry
Re: We Need Good Leadership In The SE Not Biafra. by Seun360(m): 10:13pm On Nov 11, 2015
Biafra protest is schedule for Uyo, Akwa Ibom State by 2pm tmr d 12th of November.

From Champion brewery to Ibom Plaza.

Only if Gov.Udom allows that to happen in his state.

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) ... (15) (Reply)

Senator Bayo Salami Is Dead / Rivers Rerun: PDP Releases Photos, Alleges FG Doles Out Billions To APC Rivers / Mark Okoye, Anambra Youngest Commissioner

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 98
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.