₦airaland Forum

chrisbaba1:
With you, i have no business with. I have my preferences with people i converse with. Move along.

kingzizzy:
It doesn't matter if Igbos are calling for Biafra because Jonathan lost or because the colour of the Moon has changed. The important thing here is that if the over 40 million Igbo nation decide for whatever reason to leave Nigeria, a British contraption they were forced into, then nobody has the right to tell them otherwise.

SUBWAY101:
Lmaoo. Knock out punch. Chai....You are wicked.

Decibel:
SUBWAY101 your nefarious activities here are well-known to all and sundry, only the newbies are not aware that you are a yoruba impostor, and fraudster hiding under yoruba to carry out your fraudulent activities on this forum.How can a sane man operating over 20 monikers on nairaland? You are nothing but a FRAUD!!

fx45:
You keep shouting OPC, OPC.... When are you going to join the OPC and start fighting from the front? Don't you have balls? Or are your balls only meant for impregnating women?

SUBWAY101:
Lmao. E pain am well well. Ahahahaha

Decibel:
SUBWAY101 your nefarious activities here are well-known to all and sundry, only the newbies are not aware that you are a yoruba impostor, and fraudster hiding under yoruba to carry out your fraudulent activities on this forum.How can a sane man operating over 20 monikers on nairaland? You are nothing but a FRAUD!!

fx45:
You keep shouting OPC, OPC.... When are you going to join the OPC and start fighting from the front? Don't you have balls? Or are your balls only meant for impregnating women?

SUBWAY101:
Ahahahaha E pain the mofo. Lmaooo

Decibel:
SUBWAY101 your nefarious activities here are well-known to all and sundry, only the newbies are not aware that you are a yoruba impostor, and fraudster hiding under yoruba to carry out your fraudulent activities on this forum.How can a sane man operating over 20 monikers on nairaland? You are nothing but a FRAUD!!

fx45:
You keep shouting OPC, OPC.... When are you going to join the OPC and start fighting from the front? Don't you have balls? Or are your balls only meant for impregnating women?

Ephemmm:
Really! Why did the effort of Isaac Boro to liberate Ijaws, the minorities from Ibos silenced by Igbo man called Aguiyi Ironsi as at then? You want independence but you don't want to give independence: what an irony!

SUBWAY101:
Ahahaha. Never knew you get pained so easily, you now resort to posting same nonsense over and over. Aahahah I laugh tire

kingzizzy:
Isaac Boro declared the Ijaws "Republic of the Niger Delta" with no mandate to do so. He just took some armed men to into the bush and started causing problems.

[s]Before Ojukwu declared Biafra, he sought the mandate to do so through the eastern Nigerian consultative assembly, a body that had representatives and the Chiefs of all the 20 provinces of the old eastern region. They gave Ojukwu the authority to declare Biafra. Even now that we agitate for Biafra, we want a referendum, which will be the mandate of the people to restore Biafra. So to answer your question, Isaac Boro had no mandate to do what he did same as Lord Lugard had no mandate to create Nigeria.

Ephemmm:
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You sought mandate! Who raised the motion on the floor of the House and give me the reference or can you show me how Nnamdi Kanu got his own mandate?

However, does he need anybody's approval as you guys always claim to be independent? This is another reason to show that you guys are noise-makers.

kingzizzy:
Nigerians who don't know the history of Nigeria. Read the document attach

Ephemmm:
I am talking of your present agitation which arises after GEJ's defeat: who has raised the motion for your independence among the Senators representing your Constituencies?

kingzizzy:
Senators? Those thieves in Abuja? How will they ever raise a motion for Biafra?

What we are asking for is a referendum for the people to decide where they stand.

Ephemmm:
who are the people grossly missmanging and stealing money for decades? Are they not your igbo brothers and sisters like former governers of Abia, Imo and other igbo states. Adamu or Tayo did not steal any government money from your state. Our problem in Nigeria is bad leadership

simtosul:
The question here really is the role these men
and women played in the current state of
Nigeria.
The List of Top 20 Most Corrupt Nigerian
Leaders (dead/alive) below:

1. Oluesgun Obasanjo – He stole $25
billion from 1999-2007 ($16.4 from power
sector alone)

2. Ibrahim Babangida – He stole $15 billion
from 1985-1993 ($12.4 billion from oil wind
fall in 1990)
3. Abdulsalam Abubakar – He stole $9
billion from 1998-99
4. Sani Abacha – He stole $7 billion from
1993-1998
5. Ahmed Bola Tinubu – He stole and
continues to steal from Lagos State treasury
since 1999 till date. It’s estimated that he
has stolen $6 billion so far.
6. Muhammadu Buhari – He stole $2 billion
from NNPC accounts in the ’70s and the
money was traced to Midland bank (now
HSBC), London. Under his watch as PTF
Head, N25 billion got missing according to
PTF Situation Report submitted to Abdusalam
in 1999.
7. TY Danjuma – He fraudulently got
enriched through oil blocks from the Niger
Delta worth $20 million in the 70s after the
counter coup. Those oil blocks worth billions
of dollars in today’s value.
8. Sanusi Lamido Sanusi – He stole $1.2
billion as CBN Governor from 2008-2014.
9. Bukola Saraki – Through his father,
Olukola Saraki, their bank, Societe Generale
and as a governor of Kwara State
(2003-20111) he stole $1.1 billion
10. Nasir El Rufai – Before he was made the
FCT Minister, El Rufai was broke, homeless
and was looking for loan to import taxis from
the UK. After he was made the minister, he
seized landed properties that belonged to
Nigerians and resold them with huge profit.
It’s estimated that he stole $1 billion from
2003-2007.
11. Tunde Fashola – He is the poster boy of
Tinubu. Boht of them looted Lagos dried and
left it in debt of about N1 billion. Fashola,
among other thing built his personal website
for N78 million, drilled borehole for over N100
million per each and built a kilometre road for
N1 billion. He stole $900 million from
2007-2015. He’ll soon be a minister to
continue the looting.
12. Chubike Rotimi Amaechi – From 2007
to 2015, he stole $700 million and $150
million from that money was used to sponsor
Buhari and APC.
13. Atiku Abubakar – When he as asked by
our reporter how he made his money, he
simply said “he was always at the right place
at the right time.” Atiku is an astute
businessman, but through shady deals, he
stole $500 million from 1999-2007.
14. James Ibori – He stole $150 million from
1999-2007 as governor of Delta State. He’s
serving his term for money laundering in the
UK.
15. Amina Mohammed – This woman was
the founder of Afri-Project Consortium (APC)
that was in charge of all PTF Projects during
Abacha’s regime. About $125 million was
stolen from PTF accounts from 1994-1998.
Buhari has just nominated the same woman
as a minister to continue to stealing.
16. DSP Alamieyeseigha – He stole $120
million and was arrested for money
laundering. He pleaded guilty and long
served his term.
17. Sule Lamido – He stole $110 million
between 2007-2015 and out of that amount,
$50 million was found in his sons’ bank
accounts. He was arrested and detained for
days together with his sons.
18. Rabui Kwankwaso – He stole $100
million as a governor of Kano State. EFCC has
arrested many of his aides and they are
“singing” how they siphoned the money
19. Kashium Shettima – this governor has
stolen about $80 million and still counting.
20. Rauf Aregbesola – he has milked Osun
State to the tune of $60 million.
21. Kayode Fayemi – this former governor
stole $40 million and stashed some part of
the loot in Ghana. He was reportedly bought
a bed for N50 million.
Note: The likes of President Goodluck
Jonathan and key members of his
administration including the former Minister
of Petroleum are missing.

Source: NewsDay

xtrorse:
Here is a list of some of your greedy kinsmen who looted and ruined the fortune of this country. And this is your idea of 'One Nigeria' where you persistently rob Peter to perennially pay parasitic Paul, and still continue to spill innocent blood to maintain the status quo in the polity.

Ephemmm:
who are the people grossly missmanging and stealing money for decades? Are they not your igbo brothers and sisters like former governers of Abia, Imo and other igbo states. Adamu or Tayo did not steal any government money from your state. Our problem in Nigeria is bad leadership

Ephemmm:
who are the people grossly missmanging and stealing money for decades? Are they not your igbo brothers and sisters like former governers of Abia, Imo and other igbo states. Adamu or Tayo did not steal any government money from your state. Our problem in Nigeria is bad leadership

@bolded, please try to argue logically small now. Is IBB, OBJ, etc you mentioned responsible for wrong spending of allocations earmarked for your states? What are the benefits other states are enjoying that the ones from your region are not enjoying?

You need to grow up.

kingzizzy:
What is shocking is that a referendum is the same thing that all the Biafran agitators want. This same referendum is what Ojukwu proposed for 3 years of the war so that hostilities would end. But everybody already knows what the outcome of the referendum hence they shout 'one Nigeria' just like Gowon did.

xtrorse:
You are one of the folks who come online pontificating with an air of objectivity when in reality they are neither here nor there.

You can use as much verbosity as you like to attempt to cover up your hypocrisy but surely your mission is DOA. Pass this feedback to your backers.
If you feel you can measure up to half of the wit of NK try commanding a counter demonstration in SE and see if you will not be shamed.

But note that the mere thought of Biaf... will continue to cause terrible nightmares, heartaches and madness to enemies and naysayers.

The real enemies of progress are the proponents of the status quo in the Nigerian system, and are accustomed to spreading lies and wicked propaganda. 
Anyone who supports in the smallest ways the sustenance of a criminal system that has only brought shame, waste, killings and backwardness, should be charged with crimes against humanity.

I'm not surprised at your deceitful disposition towards important discourse in the land. You are really living up to what you stand. But one thing is certain, that your continual use of cleverly crafted deceptive words to mischievously divert attention or misrepresent the reality in the land will surely boomerang, sooner than later.

'One Nigeria' is just for self benefit - anybody or tribe who is benefiting from it, be it in civil service, politics and business through monopoly, backed by evil structures put in place by past rulers will not agree that Nigeria should be restructured or otherwise. Many people have been sacrificed and are still being sacrificed to keep Nigeria one at the expense of justice, fairness and equity with crass looting of the treasury holding sway. 

The moment the consciousness of a people is awaken, no abuse or threat can stop them. The road may be long, the process may be costly, some might even pay with their lives, but more than ever important before is that the people want liberty, justice and equity. No man on this planet can hold them back...

kingzizzy:
Nigerians who don't know the history of Nigeria. Read the document attach

simplycarro:
Your signature is apt and very profound.

jpphilips:
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Mis information will only thrive when people like us are dead, so each time you log on to Nairaland be weary of some usernames that will bury your lies.




You need to define development, South east has a robust economy no doubt but I ask you, is it not what you are about to destroy with this agitation, what was left of the SE in 1970 after the first agitation? is that what you really want?

When I visit the SE, I see a lot of individual efforts more than I see collective government responsibility being fulfilled, is that what you confuse for development? over 20yrs most places in Enugu rely on tankers for clean water unlike the 80's when the government provided water for everyone through the water board, such collective infrastructures are lacking in the whole of south east not just Enugu.
Enugu and Anambra are the only SE states that can boast of good road network the rest are cesspits of varying degrees of gullies, from Abia to Ebonyi, so why are you confusing individual efforts with development?

That you built your house and I build mine in not development but individual effort, when you start benefiting from Government/cooperative provided low cost houses with Govt/cooperative provided access roads, central sewage, incinerator, electricity and security only then will you feel you are developed, as we chat, one of the most expensive estates in the SE Ngozika estate in Awka lack these amenities that people elsewhere consider as basic yet you call that development, I disagree with you completely.





I am happy that Nnamdi Kanu did not succeed in twisting that part of our history, the Nigerian government won you in battle as such there are consequences in defeat, you now understand why I take out time from my busy schedule to enlighten people who are willing to learn on the consequences of their agitation, you don't go to battle and lose then expect your life to remain the same, there is agony in defeat you should know better, let me take you on a tour round the world to buttress this situation so you can go and enlighten those urchins that blocked my office yesterday.

Japan today is not allowed to conscript their own soldiers beyond a particular number monitored by the united states who have repackaged the situation as an alliance yet by proxy undermining the sovereignty of Japan, do you have any idea how many military bases the US is maintaining in Japan? as at today, the US has 3 airforce bases (Kadena, Misowa and Yokota), 3 Army bases (camp zana, forte burtner and Tori station), 13 marine corps bases (courtney, fuji Gonsalves etc) and 4 Naval bases.

Can you see clearly that Japan is Under US occupation militarily (what Nnamdi Kanu will call military bondage) never mind their level of development and accomplishments, do you think the Japanese will not want to return to the pre WW2 era when they had a military that could match the US, soldier to soldier, combat to combat? today they have lost that privilege thanks to their defeat at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Let me take you to South America, since Argentina was defeated in the Falkland conflict, the Argentine Government is denied of all the revenues accrual from that prosperous Island that originally belongs to them as a matter of fact, they are behind a territorial marker set by the British, Argentina MUST seek the permission of the British to use or Visit an Island that originally belonged to them that is the agony of defeat.

Lets go to the Middle east, since Palestine never won Israel in any of their recent conflicts, West bank and Gaza strip has remained under perpetual occupation and subjugation, it is so bad that as little as food rations and medicines has to be approved by Israel before the people of Palestine will feed, that is the Agony of defeat.

Let us go to Europe, I need not say much here but for the sake of enlightenment, below are the conditions given to the Germans after their WW1 defeat, the document is called, treaty of Versailles, Nnamdi Kanu doesn't know this much I suppose.

1) Germany had to accept the Blame for starting the war (Clause 231). This was vital because it provided the justification for harsh treatments
2) Germany had to pay £6,600 million (called Reparations) for the damage done during the war.
3) Germany was forbidden to have submarines or an air force. She could have a navy of only six battleships, and an Army of just 100,000 men. In addition, Germany was not allowed to place any troops in the Rhineland, the strip of land, 50 miles wide, next to France.
4). Germany lost Territory (land) in Europe (see map, below). Germany’s colonies were given to Britain and France.
(Also, Germany was forbidden to join the League of Nations, or unite with Austria.)
5) SAAR coal fields was given to France to operate for 15yrs
6) Poland will be given a corridor into the Baltic cutting off East prussia from Germany
7) Posen a very rich farm land given to Poland
Danzig will be owned by the League of Nations (our modern day United nations)
9) Alsace Lorraine will be given to France free
10) Eupen and Malmedy will be given to Belgium free
11) North Shelswig given to Denmark free
12) Germany was not allowed to unite with Austria which leaves Germany as a tiny, land locked desolate piece of land

You see young man, Nnamdi Kanu is feasting on the ignorance of most of you, can you compare what US did to Japan or what the League of Nations did to Germany with your 20 pounds saga?

If Biafra was Japan, Imagine if Nigeria sends military administrators to rule over all the states in Biafra with military bases everywhere to ensure you guys don't cough, for your importation business and the likes, you must seek permission from Nigeria before you can do that, how would you feel? japan has lived through that agony for over 50yrs.

If Germany was Biafra, can you imagine Half of Biafra land will be seeded to Cameroon and the rest given to Benin Republic, how would you feel? Germany lived through that between 1914-1948, matter of fact the wall of Berlin actually fell in 1991, can you extrapolate the agony of the Germans in such situation? that is the Agony of defeat, in your case you were given 20pounds and you are complaining, bros, it could have been worse, Nnamdi Kanu knowing that you have no idea the terms of the Versailles treaty, sold you the 20pounds saga and you hated Nigeria for it, that is what propaganda does to minds that are not enlightened.

I have written here severally that Nigeria will take all your properties in Nigeria if you get Biafra, a lot of people don't believe me do you know why, because they are not enlightened enough to read the land use act of 1978. That law gives Nigeria the legal Justification to do that and not even United Nations will fault that, be careful what you wish for because very few of you can actually see the end of your Biafra Journey.





You claim Igbos are the most developed yet you beg for development again, are you not speaking from the two compasses of your mouth?
Instead of brooding about who will develop you, why wont Igbos synergize to form a common political front that will project the Igbo interest beyond umbrages? afterall, Nnamdi Azikiwe and Nwafor orizu were all igbos who operated at the highest level of governance in Nigeria, go back to that formula and you will get what you deserve, how do you expect a government you are rebelling against to help you?
How many votes did you give to Buhari to help you? Jonathan a Biafran (by Nnamdi Kanu's conjecture) you supported fully, what did he do to develop you?
If your own brother can not develop you, is it anarchy you will use to get your enemy to develop you? at what point will Igbos realize that Jonathan was a failed project, dust themselves up and re strategize on how to define their interest around APC?

Pushing for Biafra will be both political and geographical suicide, don't say I did not warn you guys!!

jpphilips:
That is the clear difference between you and I, I tabled a position based on verifiable historical facts and you have this weak unresearched anecdote to reply me, find your mates!!
When you can dig deep into the annals of history, I will be glad to bow to your superior arguments, till then, you remain a wailer till Buhari prove otherwise.