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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 11:46am On Nov 15, 2015
To TonyeBarcanista. I don't know ur tribe but I hav a message 4 u. STOP making enemies for the Niger Delta Peoples'. Am a proud son of the Niger delta and I abhor and detest ur develish posts. Despite small misunderstandings, u have no right 2 insult and ridicle our igbo brothers whom we are historically and geographically tied to. U do not represent the niger delta in any way and u MUST stop making enemies for our children. U r deluded if u think d igbos need u. No, u need them more dan dey need u. I was forced 2 comment on dis section for d first time 2day because of d dangerous dimension the thread has taken. Once hate is planted and has grown, its difficult 2 uproot. So, pls stop this Nonsense @TonyeBarcanista.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 11:47am On Nov 15, 2015
illiad:


Don't mind them fools


A Yoruba title holder once told me that 'once you pass ogbomosho you're a northerner, and once you go beyond ore you're an Igbo man, if you think anything outside that then you're simply kidding and deceiving yourself.
guy arrange yourself with your bs there...are you the proverbial mad man that sees all other sane person as mad? why name calling? state your point/case without the childish display.
Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by coolitempa(f): 11:50am On Nov 15, 2015
melzabull:
You are a despicable slowpoke. Do you realise there are igbos in the so called SS/ ND?

FYI, I'm from the Niger delta/South-south, ogwashi-ukwu, Aniocha south, and I'm Igbo. So I and every other Igbo from Anioma and igweocha in Rivers have every right to comment on this thread, get that into your hate-filled bitter, empty cranium

Have been seeing your hate-filled comments for a while now, onwards you will have me to contend with. Do you know sweetlemon? she has been away for a while now, that's one b1tch who refused to respect herself until she was forced to.

Respect yourself and stop behaving like an ijiot

Ogwashiukwu is not Ibo but Benin even though their dialect is unique.......portharcourt belongs to Ijaws not ibos....what is it with ibos that causes them to lay claims to other lands

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 11:53am On Nov 15, 2015
Pls let's ignore impostors. Pls they r enjoying our quarrel. Pls ignore dem.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:57am On Nov 15, 2015
mrsuccessful:
Am from Rivers state, Ikwerre, Obio/akpor, woji community..... proudly Niger Delta

And please can the Igbos respect their neighbors and protest in their states

Tonyebacanista thanks for standing up for us
We don't need to protest in their states(we've never acted childish). Whoever is unsatisfied with my position of promoting our interests should go fix an appointment with Akure Youths.


Welcome my boss

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 11:58am On Nov 15, 2015
coolitempa:
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Ogwashiukwu is not Ibo but Benin even though their dialect is unique.......portharcourt belongs to Ijaws not ibos....what is it with ibos that causes them to lay claims to other lands[/s]
Haha! I'll take that as a joke. Help me greet your Oba when you get to Benin.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 12:00pm On Nov 15, 2015
My humble submission to this discuss is the need for true federalism to be practiced in Nigeria...we need a referendum and adoption of the submissions of the Confab.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:03pm On Nov 15, 2015
BlaqCoffee109:
My humble submission to this discuss is the need for true federalism to be practiced in Nigeria...we need a referendum and adoption of the submissions of the Confab.
Knowing that the North is afraid of true federalism(which I understand), there is need to come up with a proposal that will capture what they stand to gain in a federalist State.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by wisdomguy4u(m): 12:16pm On Nov 15, 2015
princdebola201:


Niger Delta is a Region which consist of different tribes pls Let this people be..ur igbo brothers in South south re not compLaining cos they 've been living together for years.
There is freedom of association , any group can associate with any tribe so far they re comfortable..

Do u know if the person you are quoting is SS igbo or SE igbo ? Can you differentiate between a SS igbo and a SE igbo?
Yorubas talk for yorubas, hausas talk for hausas and you are here vehemently trying to stop Igbos from talking about Igbos .

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by illiad: 12:19pm On Nov 15, 2015
BlaqCoffee109:
guy arrange yourself with your bs there...are you the proverbial mad man that sees all other sane person as mad? why name calling? state your point/case without the childish display.

When did you come out?
Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 12:22pm On Nov 15, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Knowing that the North is afraid of true federalism(which I understand), there is need to come up with a proposal that will capture what they stand to gain in a federalist State.
...in the practice of true federalism, we are not talking about what one section stands to gain above the others, we are talking about the various geopolitical zones competing amongst themselves in the developmental index..go back to your regions, exploit the various natural and mineral resources inherent in that region, build industries...create and build institutions that will be self reliant not one man reliant..institutions and laws that will be people oriented...then see Nigeria become a global power house! mind you, the northern region have more mineral deposits that this present administration is focused on Mining and agriculture.. so what are we talking about?!

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by iyobosadavid: 12:24pm On Nov 15, 2015
IKWERRE, UKWUANNI, IKA, AHOADA AND EKPEYE ARE NOT IGBO
Chambers Dictionary (William Geddie, ed. 1962) says: “A nation is a body of people marked off by common descent, language, culture, or historical tradition: the people of a tribe.” However, S.O.L. Amadi-Nna (1993) avers that: “A tribe is a group of clans under recognized chiefs and usually claiming common ancestry. Ikwerre can therefore not be a clan but a tribe. The Ikwerres claim a common ancestor. Ikwerre is an independent small tribe.” In the words of K.O. Amadi (1993), “Traditions suggest that Ikwerre is a nickname given to Iwhnuruọhna people…..They have ever since regarded themselves as a distinct group and have happily come a long way in their struggle for self-identity as evidenced by the recognition of their language as one of the Nigerian languages.” Amadi-Nna (1993) added that: “The Ikwerres are a small but distinct tribe. The Ikwerres have distinct linguistic, social and cultural traits and formations that distinguish them from other close neighbouring tribes like the Ijaws and the Ibos. Majority of the Ikwerre settlements have their roots traceable from the old Benin Empire.” Iwhnurọhna people descended from the ancient Bini Kingdom. The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka. Their relations in Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba people. The reigning Oba of Benin when Akalaka, the ancestor of Ihruọha (later called Iwhnurọhna) fled was Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro). Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled in the 13th century on allegation of plotting assassination of the Oba. He died in 1462. Iwhnurọhna his third son settled east of the Sombrero River by 1538 AD, as detailed below. Chief N.M.T. Solomon (2004), native of Ikodu Ubie in Ekpeyeland, in his narrative draws heavily from the now authenticated written historical records delivered by various informed sources including “Eketu (Weber) of Ubeta, assumed to have lived for over two hundred (200) years as the oldest man in all Ekpeye, Ogba and Iwhnurọhna (or Ikwerre), at that time (and) was asked to narrate the history and customs of Ekpeye people” as unfolded in his lifetime. Here is what he said, which has been validated by the accounts of the current generation through responses to our questionnaires and direct interviews thereby increasing our level of confidence on the data: Ekpeye, born in Benin, was the first of the three sons of Akalaka. While in Ndoni, he married a second wife to gain the love and favour of the people. The new wife gave birth to a son, which he named Ogba. Akalaka was still in Ndoni when his first wife, the mother of Ekpeye, gave birth to his third son called Ihruoha (Ikwerre). Similar historical fact by J.N. Olise (1971) averred that: “Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled with his wife from Benin to Ndoni, a community located close to the River Niger, to save the life of his new born baby (Ekpeye) … While at Ndoni, Akalaka took a second wife. … Akalaka had two sons, Ekpeye – born to him by his Benin wife, and Ogba – born to him by his Ndoni wife. According to F.E. Otuwarikpo (1994): "After the death of Akalaka in 1462 AD, his two sons, Ekpeye and Ogba had conflict, which compelled Ogba, the younger son, to move northwards where he founded Ohiakwo (Obigwe) and settled with his family. Ekpeye who remained at Ula-Ubie had seven sons – Ubie, Akoh, Upata, Igbuduya, Ekpe, Awala and Asa. The last three sons – Ekpe, Awala and Asa – crossed to the other side of Sombreiro River (present day Ikwerreland and settled there since 1538 AD.” He added that: “Ekpe migrated to present day Rumuekpe and spread through Elele (Alimini), Ndele, Rumuji and part of Ibaa. Awala migrated to present day Isiokpo …” Amadi-Nna (1993) also said Akalaka migrated with his half brother called Ochichi from the area of Benin Empire. Ochichi sons were Ele (Omerele, now Elele), Elu (Elumuoha, now Omerelu), Egbe (Egbeda) and Mini (Alimini, Isiokpo). The crucial point here, which is of great importance in tracing the joint origin of the ancestors of the Old Ahoada Division (in the Governor Diete-Spiff administration), is the mention of the number of children that Akalaka had, namely: Ekpeye, Ogba and Ihruọha (Ikwerre). It is noteworthy that the pedigree and name of Ikwerre people, Iwhnurọhna, obviously took its root from this original name – Ihruọha. Chief Solomon therefore establishes a very vital historical link, which has been missing in literature on Ikwerre origin that would assume more significance in the discourses of Ikwerre genealogy in the future – the fact that Akalaka was the direct father of Ihruọha (Ikwerre). Iwhnurọhna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village). Nigerian colonial history records that the name "Ikwerre" was given by the colonial administration when they wanted to acquire the Rebisi waterfront to build the wharf. Using an Ibo interpreter to talk to the illiterate Rebisi (Port Harcourt) chiefs, they asked them: Would you permit us to use the waterfront to build the wharf for ships to berth? And they answered: A KWERULEM, meaning - "We have agreed." What the white-man was hearing was "Ikwerre," so he recorded it in the official gazette that the IKWERRE PEOPLE have agreed for the colonial administration to build the wharf. And since it was the official record of government, the name Ikwerre became the name of the Iwhnurohna people in all official documentations till date. Similar cases of Anglicization of native names in the Niger Delta region by the colonial administration are Benin for Bini, Okrika for Wakrike, Degema for Udekema, Abonnema for Obonoma, Brass for Gbara sni, Bonny for Ibani, Pepple for Perekule, Ahoada for Ehuda, etc Even so, “… there were dissenting voices, … who believed that Ikwerre origins lay outside Igbo land, … in the Benin Kingdom of old. It is, therefore, obvious that the interminable debate about Ikwerre origins and migrations including the repudiation of the Igbo tradition is not a phenomenon of the post-civil war period. The controversy, as it were, is not necessarily the product of the present political realities wherein groups which hitherto were seen to have cultural affinities now find themselves in different states or administrative systems.” -- K.O. Amadi (1993) The Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention, a cultural organization of Ikwerre people, in a paper presented to the Human Rights Violation Commission headed by Rtd. Justice Chukwudifu Oputa on 10 October 2001, said: “Ikwerre ethnic nationality is not and has never been a sub- group of any other tribe in Nigeria including Ndi-Igbo. There is no doubt that the advent of the British and later regionalization put Ndi-Igbo at the helm of affairs in Eastern Nigeria. This brought Ndi-Igbo into Ikwerre land. In course of time, the Igbo took advantage of their position in the then Eastern Regional Government to grab land in Ikwerre and occupy political positions such as the mayor of Port Harcourt. In the process, Ikwerre along with other minority groups were marginalized and driven to the background.” Professor Godwin Tasie noted that in 1913 the Rt Rev Herbert Tugwell, the Anglican Bishop on the Niger, undertook an experimentation tour of Ikwerre towns and villages assumed to be Ibo-speaking to test the Union Ibo Bible Nso being introduced in Iboland. "Tugwell discovered from the tests he carried out that although the Ikwerre were often regarded as Ibo… the Union Ibo Bible translation, surprisingly, was not easily understood by the Ikwere." This is obviously why Igbo vernacular was compulsorily introduced and taught in all schools in Ikwerreland before the Nigerian Civil War to the assimilation (i.e. destruction) of the Ikwere language. This also obviously led to the Rumuomasi Declaration in 1965. " … in their meeting at Rumuomasi in 1965 the Ikwerre had, under the umbrella of a highly promising new body that was to get the Ikwerre together as a people of new and clearer vision, they had declared themselves as a people of the distinct identity of Ikwerre Ethnic Nationality - not Ibo, not Ijo, not anything else but Ikwerre, Iwhnurọhna. This was the historic Rumuomasi Declaration of 1965 (G.O.M. Tasie, 2000). The full implication is that Ikwere people began to assert themselves forcefully as an ethnic nationality of their own and not Ibos or Ijos, and efforts were made to revert to the original Ikwere names for families, villages, communities and landmarks. For instance, there was the change from Umuola to Rumuola, Umuoro to Rumuoro, Umukrushi to Rumuokwurusi, just to name a few. T O N Y E N Y I A, PhD, MNIM CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF TRUSTEES IWHNURỌHNA CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION Saturday, 5 February 2011

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 12:24pm On Nov 15, 2015
illiad:


When did you come out?
...I don't have time for simpletons as you...neither do I endorse fo.ols
Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by iyobosadavid: 12:28pm On Nov 15, 2015
present sir... I am a proud son from Igueben LGA in Edo State

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by basilo101: 12:29pm On Nov 15, 2015
THe most idio.tic thread ever. Una beta create thread for ur states or tribes than this nonesense.
Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 12:30pm On Nov 15, 2015
iyobosadavid:
present sir... I am a proud son from Igueben LGA in Edo State
Like how you identified yourself, proud Ishan-Edo son. And not the 'We South-South'.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:33pm On Nov 15, 2015
BlaqCoffee109:
...in the practice of true federalism, we are not talking about what one section stands to gain above the others, we are talking about the various geopolitical zones competing amongst themselves in the developmental index..go back to your regions, exploit the various natural and mineral resources inherent in that region, build industries...create and build institutions that will be self reliant not one man reliant..institutions and laws that will be people oriented...then see Nigeria become a global power house! mind you, the northern region have more mineral deposits that this present administration is focused on Mining and agriculture.. so what are we talking about?!
The truth is that the phasing out of regional system in favor of unitary system by the Ironsi military regime has made the once hardworking Northern governments to rely on the petrol dollars. As it stand, whenever the issue of true federalism comes up, the first question is usually "what do we stand to gain and lose"? Personally, I believe the question will be answered If/when we concede 15% to the Northern region and other not-so-rich region while we keep 25% with 5% increment every 5years until it reaches 50% after 25years. Our concession will enable poorer region to get themselves fixed and invest in their own mineral resources.

We have to agree that we need dialogue to achieve this demand.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Obiagu1(m): 12:34pm On Nov 15, 2015
pazienza:


Lol! Nnaa cool down, we need not team up with anyone to punish them, remember we can't punish them without equally punishing Igbo speaking groups like Oyigbo, Anioma and Egbema. They all benefit from the crude oil derivation thingy.

Water will find their level on their own. If Biafra tarries and this current crude oil price continues or even deteriorate further, the allocation going to the North will be drastically reduced, and it will be only a matter of time before they seek for the reduction of the current 13% derivation to enable them get more allocation.

When that time comes, we wouldn't fight anyone, we would just go with the flow of the majority, as we see that there is no gain standing with a minority, doing so will only reduce you to a minority status.

Don't fight it, let it flow.

I maintain that the 13% derivation be scrapped.
This will be in line with the wishes of Northerners that own the oil.

Political correctness by the Igbo has to stop!
We should not be helpful to a bunch of common house thieves because they are the worst backstabers in Nigeria.
What benefits the SE should be our driving principle.
We MUST try and maximise the gains of 'awa oyel' until it runs dry.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by IGBOPRINCE: 12:35pm On Nov 15, 2015
pazienza:
Why can't the OP create an Edoid people thread, while the Ijaws create an Ijaw people thread.

The Yorubas you are mimicking didn't create SW thread, because they knew there are non Yorubas in SW( the Arogbo and apoi Ijaw and the Eguns) and that there are Yoruba people outside SW, the Okuns and Kwara Yorubas.

So instead the thread was named Yoruba commonwealth thread.

Why are the Edoids and Ijaws hell bent on land grabbing Igbo speaking lands by hiding under the Niger delta tag?

By excluding the Ndoni, Egbema, Anioma, Etche and Oyigbo, are you saying that those groups are no longer part of SS or Niger delta simply because they might have pro Igbo disposition?

Is the whole aim of this Edoid/ Ijaw led Niger delta to promote anti Igbo agenda?
hahaha..don't mind those hypocrite..they know what sup. That s why they excluded them including the ikwerres..

Tanx for the facts, thumb up

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by illiad: 12:36pm On Nov 15, 2015
coolitempa:


Ogwashiukwu is not Ibo but Benin even though their dialect is unique.......portharcourt belongs to Ijaws not ibos....what is it with ibos that causes them to lay claims to other lands

Lol
Mad person dey sweet to watch but not sweet to born. Condolences to your parents.



Of course you would come here to leverage on your derangement.



I have continued to call on the yorubas to come rescue their tribe from the mud of abject shame and disgust you and your nairaland yorubas have dipped the Yoruba race into.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 12:36pm On Nov 15, 2015
basilo101:
THe most idio.tic thread ever. Una beta create thread for ur states or tribes than this nonesense.
undecided why do you have Ndigbo? why do you have Arewa? Afenifere nko? why do you think there is need for association? do you belong to any offline? now explain exactly what is idiotic?
Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 12:38pm On Nov 15, 2015
iyobosadavid:
IKWERRE, UKWUANNI, IKA, AHOADA AND EKPEYE ARE NOT IGBO
Chambers Dictionary (William Geddie, ed. 1962) says:
“A nation is a body of people marked off by common
descent, language, culture, or historical tradition: the
people of a tribe.” However, S.O.L. Amadi-Nna (1993)
avers that: “A tribe is a group of clans under recognized
chiefs and usually claiming common ancestry. Ikwerre
can therefore not be a clan but a tribe. The Ikwerres
claim a common ancestor. Ikwerre is an independent
small tribe.” In the words of K.O. Amadi (1993),
“Traditions suggest that Ikwerre is a nickname given to
Iwhnuruọhna people…..They have ever since regarded
themselves as a distinct group and have happily come a
long way in their struggle for self-identity as evidenced
by the recognition of their language as one of the
Nigerian languages.”
Amadi-Nna (1993) added that: “The Ikwerres are a small
but distinct tribe. The Ikwerres have distinct linguistic,
social and cultural traits and formations that distinguish
them from other close neighbouring tribes like the Ijaws
and the Ibos. Majority of the Ikwerre settlements have
their roots traceable from the old Benin Empire.”
Iwhnurọhna people descended from the ancient Bini
Kingdom. The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka.
Their relations in Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba
people. The reigning Oba of Benin when Akalaka, the
ancestor of Ihruọha (later called Iwhnurọhna) fled was
Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro). Akalaka, a member of the Benin
royal family, fled in the 13th century on allegation of
plotting assassination of the Oba. He died in 1462.
Iwhnurọhna his third son settled east of the Sombrero
River by 1538 AD, as detailed below.
Chief N.M.T. Solomon (2004), native of Ikodu Ubie in
Ekpeyeland, in his narrative draws heavily from the now
authenticated written historical records delivered by
various informed sources including “Eketu (Weber) of
Ubeta, assumed to have lived for over two hundred
(200) years as the oldest man in all Ekpeye, Ogba and
Iwhnurọhna (or Ikwerre), at that time (and) was asked to
narrate the history and customs of Ekpeye people” as
unfolded in his lifetime. Here is what he said, which has
been validated by the accounts of the current
generation through responses to our questionnaires and
direct interviews thereby increasing our level of
confidence on the data:
Ekpeye, born in Benin, was the first of the three sons of
Akalaka. While in Ndoni, he married a second wife to
gain the love and favour of the people. The new wife
gave birth to a son, which he named Ogba. Akalaka was
still in Ndoni when his first wife, the mother of Ekpeye,
gave birth to his third son called Ihruoha (Ikwerre).
Similar historical fact by J.N. Olise (1971) averred that:
“Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled with
his wife from Benin to Ndoni, a community located
close to the River Niger, to save the life of his new born
baby (Ekpeye) … While at Ndoni, Akalaka took a second
wife. … Akalaka had two sons, Ekpeye – born to him by
his Benin wife, and Ogba – born to him by his Ndoni
wife. According to F.E. Otuwarikpo (1994): "After the
death of Akalaka in 1462 AD, his two sons, Ekpeye and
Ogba had conflict, which compelled Ogba, the younger
son, to move northwards where he founded Ohiakwo
(Obigwe) and settled with his family. Ekpeye who
remained at Ula-Ubie had seven sons – Ubie, Akoh,
Upata, Igbuduya, Ekpe, Awala and Asa. The last three
sons – Ekpe, Awala and Asa – crossed to the other side
of Sombreiro River (present day Ikwerreland and settled
there since 1538 AD.” He added that: “Ekpe migrated to
present day Rumuekpe and spread through Elele
(Alimini), Ndele, Rumuji and part of Ibaa. Awala
migrated to present day Isiokpo …”
Amadi-Nna (1993) also said Akalaka migrated with his
half brother called Ochichi from the area of Benin
Empire. Ochichi sons were Ele (Omerele, now Elele), Elu
(Elumuoha, now Omerelu), Egbe (Egbeda) and Mini
(Alimini, Isiokpo).
The crucial point here, which is of great importance in
tracing the joint origin of the ancestors of the Old
Ahoada Division (in the Governor Diete-Spiff
administration), is the mention of the number of
children that Akalaka had, namely: Ekpeye, Ogba and
Ihruọha (Ikwerre). It is noteworthy that the pedigree and
name of Ikwerre people, Iwhnurọhna, obviously took its
root from this original name – Ihruọha. Chief Solomon
therefore establishes a very vital historical link, which
has been missing in literature on Ikwerre origin that
would assume more significance in the discourses of
Ikwerre genealogy in the future – the fact that Akalaka
was the direct father of Ihruọha (Ikwerre). Iwhnurọhna,
in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community
(town, city or village).
Nigerian colonial history records that the name "Ikwerre"
was given by the colonial administration when they
wanted to acquire the Rebisi waterfront to build the
wharf. Using an Ibo interpreter to talk to the illiterate
Rebisi (Port Harcourt) chiefs, they asked them: Would
you permit us to use the waterfront to build the wharf
for ships to berth? And they answered: A KWERULEM,
meaning - "We have agreed." What the white-man was
hearing was "Ikwerre," so he recorded it in the official
gazette that the IKWERRE PEOPLE have agreed for the
colonial administration to build the wharf. And since it
was the official record of government, the name Ikwerre
became the name of the Iwhnurohna people in all
official documentations till date.
Similar cases of Anglicization of native names in the
Niger Delta region by the colonial administration are
Benin for Bini, Okrika for Wakrike, Degema for Udekema,
Abonnema for Obonoma, Brass for Gbara sni, Bonny for
Ibani, Pepple for Perekule, Ahoada for Ehuda, etc
Even so, “… there were dissenting voices, … who
believed that Ikwerre origins lay outside Igbo land, … in
the Benin Kingdom of old. It is, therefore, obvious that
the interminable debate about Ikwerre origins and
migrations including the repudiation of the Igbo
tradition is not a phenomenon of the post-civil war
period. The controversy, as it were, is not necessarily
the product of the present political realities wherein
groups which hitherto were seen to have cultural
affinities now find themselves in different states or
administrative systems.” -- K.O. Amadi (1993)
The Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention, a cultural organization
of Ikwerre people, in a paper presented to the Human
Rights Violation Commission headed by Rtd. Justice
Chukwudifu Oputa on 10 October 2001, said: “Ikwerre
ethnic nationality is not and has never been a sub-
group of any other tribe in Nigeria including Ndi-Igbo.
There is no doubt that the advent of the British and later
regionalization put Ndi-Igbo at the helm of affairs in
Eastern Nigeria. This brought Ndi-Igbo into Ikwerre land.
In course of time, the Igbo took advantage of their
position in the then Eastern Regional Government to
grab land in Ikwerre and occupy political positions such
as the mayor of Port Harcourt. In the process, Ikwerre
along with other minority groups were marginalized and
driven to the background.”
Professor Godwin Tasie noted that in 1913 the Rt Rev
Herbert Tugwell, the Anglican Bishop on the Niger,
undertook an experimentation tour of Ikwerre towns and
villages assumed to be Ibo-speaking to test the Union
Ibo Bible Nso being introduced in Iboland. "Tugwell
discovered from the tests he carried out that although
the Ikwerre were often regarded as Ibo… the Union Ibo
Bible translation, surprisingly, was not easily understood
by the Ikwere." This is obviously why Igbo vernacular
was compulsorily introduced and taught in all schools
in Ikwerreland before the Nigerian Civil War to the
assimilation (i.e. destruction) of the Ikwere language.
This also obviously led to the Rumuomasi Declaration in
1965. " … in their meeting at Rumuomasi in 1965 the
Ikwerre had, under the umbrella of a highly promising
new body that was to get the Ikwerre together as a
people of new and clearer vision, they had declared
themselves as a people of the distinct identity of
Ikwerre Ethnic Nationality - not Ibo, not Ijo, not anything
else but Ikwerre, Iwhnurọhna. This was the historic
Rumuomasi Declaration of 1965 (G.O.M. Tasie, 2000).
The full implication is that Ikwere people began to
assert themselves forcefully as an ethnic nationality of
their own and not Ibos or Ijos, and efforts were made to
revert to the original Ikwere names for families, villages,
communities and landmarks. For instance, there was the
change from Umuola to Rumuola, Umuoro to Rumuoro,
Umukrushi to Rumuokwurusi, just to name a few.
T O N Y E N Y I A, PhD, MNIM
CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF TRUSTEES
IWHNURỌHNA CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION
Saturday, 5 February 2011
So u are from Edo like d op. It is becoming clearer that ur people are the dividing agents in the SS/SE alliance.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by illiad: 12:43pm On Nov 15, 2015
BlaqCoffee109:
...I don't have time for simpletons as you...neither do I endorse fo.ols

I am the new Sheriff in town.


And am only here to put you cockroaches in your proper place.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Malawian(m): 12:47pm On Nov 15, 2015
mulattoclaro:
No amount of intimidation and insults will stop the unity of the people of SS or Niger Delta. We will never be part of your Biafra project. It's either resource control or Niger Delta Republic. Biafra is only a means for your tribe to grab our lands. Try it and see what happens.

edo state is almost as big as the south east reagion in landmass. more than 85% of Edo state (especially bini lands) is still a wilderness.

( a wilderness is a place that has never been set foot upon since the creation of the world) grin grin grin

if you guys love the ijaw, why not carve up a small piece of land from your wilderness so that they can get away from the ocean?

you see ijaw dragging warri with the ishekiri, the same ijaw comes to river state to drag igweocha with the ikwerre, yet they have yenegoa of which they have done nothing with.

every minority tribe in the area seems to have a city of their own making. uhrrobo have effurun, ishekiri have warri, bini have benin city, ishan have uromi, afemai have auchi, ibbibio have uyo annags have calabar and so forth. only the ijaw keep looking for people's city to grab. why!!!

i have this suspicion that this niger-delta collabo of the ijaw and bini is so that ijaw will seize rivers/akwaibom and cross river, while bini will do same with anioma regions.

word to the wise, igbo people are like lions. we defend our territory.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Ugomba(m): 12:48pm On Nov 15, 2015
Ijaws will dominate Niger Delta Republic! Count the Anioma nation out, we are NOT interested.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Observant: 12:50pm On Nov 15, 2015
pazienza:
Why can't the OP create an Edoid people thread, while the Ijaws create an Ijaw people thread.

The Yorubas you are mimicking didn't create SW thread, because they knew there are non Yorubas in SW( the Arogbo and apoi Ijaw and the Eguns) and that there are Yoruba people outside SW, the Okuns and Kwara Yorubas.

So instead the thread was named Yoruba commonwealth thread.

Why are the Edoids and Ijaws hell bent on land grabbing Igbo speaking lands by hiding under the Niger delta tag?

By excluding the Ndoni, Egbema, Anioma, Etche and Oyigbo, are you saying that those groups are no longer part of SS or Niger delta simply because they might have pro Igbo disposition?

Is the whole aim of this Edoid/ Ijaw led Niger delta to promote anti Igbo agenda?

Paziena I love you.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Obiagu1(m): 12:51pm On Nov 15, 2015
Ugomba:
Ijaws will dominate Niger Delta Republic!
Count the Anioma nation out, we are NOT interested.

They said you guys do not exist in the SS.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by dedollarman(m): 12:52pm On Nov 15, 2015
The Northerners and yeruba has succeeded in kicking Goodluck Jonathan out of the Government knowing fully well that comes, s 2019 ss/se will form a formidable force against their antist
Now they are hellbent in peaching us against each other to enable them continue their marginalisation and born to rule mentality go to se/ss all federal Road has turn death trap but go to the north they have the best Road from LOKOJA in Kogi state to Abuja to kaduna to,zaria to kano is double lane but federal Road in ss/se are death trap

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by illiad: 12:54pm On Nov 15, 2015
BlaqCoffee109:
undecided why do you have Ndigbo? why do you have Arewa? Afenifere nko? why do you think there is need for association? do you belong to any offline? now explain exactly what is idiotic?

Unfortunately you can't even see through your folly. That's a very miserable situation situation you are in.


Arewa Afenifere how on earth does that relate to such terms as South South or niger delta?


Cockroaches will always be cockroaches.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Ugomba(m): 12:57pm On Nov 15, 2015
Obiagu1:


They said you guys do not exist in the SS.
who said so? Which tribe in SS Here can challenge we Aniomas in Achievements?
The raw truth is that Ijaw will colonize the ND Republic. I know their behaviour very well.

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Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 12:59pm On Nov 15, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

The truth is that the phasing out of regional system in favor of unitary system by the Ironsi military regime has made the once hardworking Northern governments to rely on the petrol dollars. As it stand, whenever the issue of true federalism comes up, the first question is usually "what do we stand to gain and lose"? Personally, I believe the question will be answered If/when we concede 15% to the Northern region and other not-so-rich region while we keep 25% with 5% increment every 5years until it reaches 50% after 25years. Our concession will enable poorer region to get themselves fixed and invest in their own mineral resources.

We have to agree that we need dialogue to achieve this demand.
..Aguiyi Ironsi..now the Biafra agitation.. in any case,there is no need to dwell on divisive politics if Nigeria is to attain her true potential.. I would be careful to say there are regions that are poor in Nigeria...every state of the nation Nigeria have some mineral deposit or the other...arable land,sun/wind energy, our teeming population of the best and brightest brains etc that should Nigeria sneeze,there should be a quiver in the committee of nations...we should clamour for outside the usual in our polity...oil should be demystified..ever wondered Nigeria's state in a world without the need for oil as it stands? technology is fast advanced..Nigeria is light years behind.. we are a consumer dependent economy...we have to dunk those sharing formulae in the waste bin and think outside the box
Re: The South South And The Niger Delta People's Thread by Nobody: 1:03pm On Nov 15, 2015
illiad:


I am the new Sheriff in town.


And am only here to put you cockroaches in your proper place.



make intelligent input and stop clowning like a 13year old sissy...we are discussing nation building here son...if you got nothing to contribute just read and learn and be more patriotic..do have a nice day.

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