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AfricanFinest:
That's not the definition of landlocked.
May be you should call that waterlocked too, I think it will make a lot of sense.
That's why I told you that you should let that definition of yours guide you... As anything you add or remove when making assertions will alter the definition of a landlocked state. Which you have just did.

ezeaguisforever:
So Port Harcourt, Sapele, Warri and Calabar are in sheltered estuaries and islands? Second question, you believe Port Harcourt can be legally blocked from the sea, no matter what country it's in?

scholes0:
Are you smart at all?
No part of Igboland has direct Ocean access. It is entirely surrounded by other parts of Nigeria Be it Land or Water.

arresa:
Is this based on some kind of assumption that iboland shall remain an integral part of Nigeria and shall never be or have anything to do with biafra as a sovereign territory...?

scholes0:
Yeah.
The Onne port is in a sheltered estuary.
Sapele also on the estuary of the Benin river... Warri, Calabar (Escravos and Cross river estuaries)
I don''t believe this will be a matter of "Blocking" one country from trading or not, as every sovereign country has 100% Jurisdiction over every waterway and land within its territory. If you want a merchant ship passing through another territory, well, you better be ready to seek the necessary permissions.

Moldova is a landlocked country, even though it has points extremely close to the black sea of less than 100 meters at some points.

Wanna see what was in the way? A stupid obstruction of a tiny piece of Ukrainian territory.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/660/23486676082_35ce752ded_b.jpg

coolscott:
[size=13pt]This write up did not state that Igbo land is not land locked. It mentioned the rivers around Igbo land. I have seen the river in Aba. The Imo river fans out as it heads south but that does not immediately mean that the ocean moved northwards to Igboland.

Well, even though wikipedia happened to erroneously ascribe beachline to Igbos (which they did not) they only need to be corrected on account of the non-conformity of that report with what is on the ground.

Only one thing can give Igbos an ocean. Global warming and rising sea levels in such great proportion as to send Port Harcourt, Okrika kalabari, et al under the see. This we pray will never happen
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Abagworo:
Lol@poster. Even your funny wiki map is landlocked completely by Nigeria

coolscott:
[size=13pt]If we had said these people display inferior intellect, it would look as if we are attacking other people. See how they are doing it on a national level now. He makes a claim and boldly puts up proof that makes his claim false, while calling it proof that makes that claim true.
Meanwhile there was no neeed.
With or without his post, we already knew his claim was a lie.[/size]

sleekdot:
Where in that map did anywhere touch the ocean? Or because one gutter pass through Ibo land means its not landlocked?

For any ship to reach Biafra it must pass through Nigeria, thats the definition of landlocked

sleekdot:
any of the coastal states. ARe you being thick deliberately.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3163309_igboland_pngfb16603cda4901152cfcdb014d7eebaa

The blue is the ocean, the lines drawn for Biafra is not touching the ocean at any point

sleekdot:
Ikwerre

MaziOmenuko:
That's one of my major problem with ipob youths; you can't force people into your Biafra. The port at Rivera state is at onne and it's Nigerian territorial waters; are you going to force them to be part of Biafra?

If the method of getting Biafra is by peaceful resolution, they will opt to remain in Nigeria. If its through war, threatening and mad riots, you are not equiped or ready for war.

The Eastern Region was one of Nigeria's federal divisions, dating back originally from the division of the colony Southern Nigeria in 1954. Its first capital was Calabar. The capital was later moved to Enugu and the second capital was Umuahia. The region was officially divided in 1967 into three new states,in the East-Central State, Rivers State and South-Eastern State. East-Central State had its capital at Enugu, which is now part of Enugu State.

The Region had the third, fourth and the fifth largest ethnic groups in the country (Igbo, Ibibio, and Ijaw) next to Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba. The then Eastern Region failed to capitalize on this but rather engaged in in-fighting and the wrong labeling of Ibibio and Ijaw as minority ethnic groups.

The region was what later became Biafra, which was in rebellion from 1967 to 1970.

unite4real:
can you answer the following questions and forget about wikipedia?

1. Igboland is bounded in the north by -------------------
2. Igboland is bounded in the East by --------------------
3. Igboland is bounded in the West by -------------------
4. Igboland is bounded in the South by-------------------

The answers will tell you landlocked or not

sleekdot:
Cross river is not part of Biafra. Your Biafra is limited to SE and Anioma part of Delta

Tell me how a ship coming from outside would get to Biafra without passing through parts of Nigerian land

scholes0:
This looks Landlocked to me.

https://www.sitesatlas.com/custom/Igboland.jpg

chigomiced:
kindly read and tell me how Igboland is Landlocked

Igboland (Standard Igbo: Àlà Ị̀gbò), also known as Southeastern Nigeria and formerly known as Ibo or Iboland,[3] is a non-governmental cultural region and a linguistic area in Nigeria that is defined by the Igbo culture and language. It is primarily situated in the Lowland forest region of Nigeria, with minor parts in the Niger-Delta, where the Niger river fans out into the atlantic ocean in a vast network of creeks and mangrove swamps on the Bight of Bonny located between latitude 5–7 degrees north and longitude 6–8 degrees east, and occupies a total landmass of about 16,000 square miles in southern Nigeria.

coolscott:
[size=13pt]This is funny. Do you own any coastline? You clearly do not know the meaning of landlocked. I mean I sense that you s-i-n-c-e-r-e-l-y do not know.

And this is what I am saying. Now every other person that knows what it means can come to no other conclusion other than the fact that you do not know the meaning of the word/term.

Igboland happens to be a perfect example that can be used to illustrate what it means to be landlocked.
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arresa:
.....landlocked means zero direct access to any sea or ocean. Any other meandering or disingenuous connotations like the OP is alluding is bogus and total fallacy...

coolscott:
[size=13pt]And they keep putting themselves down in this forum, confidently volunteering their ignorance as knowledge. It has now become known the shallowness of intellect which surrounds their reasoning, perhaps brought about by fraud. Look at this op for example, disgracing himself again and again.
And confidently too.
The same way the naked chief of an old african tribe might have come out with airs and in his naked glory, to greet his white visitors, all the while blissfully unconscious of the naked spectacle he presents of himself to his foreign visitors[/size]

chigomiced:
Bros Igboland is not entirely surrounded by land and yes we have sea ports in Igboland

we dash Niger-area the coastline

chigomiced:
because the foreign visitors were born clothed abi



the water flowing into Igboland is from lake chad abi


Igboland has access to the Atlantic ocean or sea hence not landlocked

coolscott:
[size=13pt]When a person living in a leaky mud hut claims to have "dashed" the man who owns and lives in a mansion his skyscrapers.
Anyway, this is why I have always felt for a long time that everyone else in Nigeria has been smarter than the igbo man, particularly the northerner, who does not even declare himself wise at all but comes out on top in every political encounter, even if the igbo man calls him foolish all through that encounter.[/size]

coolscott:
[size=13pt]They were born naked but knew they had to cover themselves.
Now you are a grown man but your are gleefully jingling your bell on nairaland. And nothing anybody can tell you will stop you[/size]

ezeaguisforever:
You mean the depth of the Imo or New Kalabar which already have wharfs sited on them and take ships to a great extent and only need a bit of dredging? Or the Niger? I don't know. I'll leave that to your investigations. Because at the end of the day you know this your questioning is irrelevant and bringing up the Rhine collapsed your entire argument.

The bloody Rhine that's hundreds of miles between the North Sea and Switzerland and that actually starts in Switzerland vs the Imo and New Kalabar that are on mangroves and 20 miles from the coast and the ports of Igboland, not including coastal areas that are actually Igbo-speaking/have Igbo heritage like Opobo?

You should now laugh at yourself.

The Imo River is in southeastern Nigeria and flows 240 kilometres into the Atlantic Ocean. Its estuary is around 40 kilometres wide, and the river has an annual discharge of 4 cubic kilometres with 26,000 hectares of wetland. https://www.google.com.ng/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=length+of+imo+river

The Imo River (Igbo: Imo Mmiri) is in southeastern Nigeria and flows 240 kilometres (150 mi) into the Atlantic Ocean. Its estuary is around 40 kilometres (25 mi) wide,[3] and the river has an annual discharge of 4 cubic kilometres (1.0 cu mi)[4] with 26,000 hectares of wetland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imo_River

Imo River is the major river in Imo state with a large number of tributaries. Imo River being the most prominent, traverses from north to south of the state with a length of about 225 km. In its upper reach, it receives tributaries. It has its source in the Ideato North Area of Imo State near Osina. Its middle reaches flow north to south for some 80 km in the flat valley through the coastal plain lowland without receiving any significant tributaries. The Imo River drained not only Imo State but also Abia and Akwa Ibom States and empties into the Atlantic Ocean. It is joined by Aba River flowing from the North and then enters Akwa Ibom State enroute to the Ocean.  The major tributary of Imo River is the Otamiri River http://www.omicsgroup.org/journals/river-basins-of-imo-state-for-sustainable-water-resources-management-2165-784X.1000134.pdf

The Rhine (German: Rhein) is an European river that begins in the Swiss canton of Graubünden in the southeastern Swiss Alps, forms part of the Swiss-Austrian, Swiss-Liechtenstein border, Swiss-German and then the Franco-German border, then flows through the Rhineland and eventually empties into the North Sea in the Netherlands. It is the second-longest river in Central and Western Europe (after the Danube), at about 1,230 km (760 mi),[2][3] with an average discharge of about 2,900 m3/s (100,000 cu ft/s). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine

keally:
. Even if Biafra is Landlocked, ur Zoo that is not Landlocked what has it achieved near Switzerland that Landlocked. Shut up and stop talking rubbish. Landlocked or not we are not part of ur Zoo. If you like kill urself out of Jealousy, na you sabi.

pinkysegun:
The igbo region isnt just landlicked, its an enclave just like Lesotho, a country within a country meaning nothing can leave or come to that country without the outer countries permission
And please some of you on this thread need to do some 5 mins googling before posting, check your facts please
And jeez 2 much hate and cursing, every tribe like to blame the other for their failings, ask yourself what hads your own tribe, governors, leaders etc have done to move your people forward? It is a common habit for blacks to always blame others for their own failings

Mynd44:
This is too funny.
Flying boats to be used to service the economy of an entire country?

You have made my night bro.
Thanks

Tequilah:
The bloody Rhine you mentioned may be hundreds of miles o, but it is still very wide, quite deep and much larger than your Imo & Orashi rivers. The issue is not whether it is hundred of miles long, but if it is navigable for large vessels. Please can you tell us the size of the Imo river and the others you mentioned, so we can compare it with the size of the Rhine?

What are the size of the ports in Imo, New Calabar etc rivers? What is the size of vessel these ports can accommodate? It is not having a port that matters, but the size and capacity of those ports. There are fishing ports, docking ports etc. Even the Calabar river runs through a huge portion of the Calabar, Efik etc areas before it gets to Igbo land. You need to confirm if they would give right-of-passage and thoroughfare to your area.

I have not seen ships plying Imo river, but I have seen ferries, barges and boats. Please let us know when last you saw ships on Imo river. Then you mentioned mangroves. Are you saying that ships ply mangrove areas? Because most mangrove places also have swampy terrains in many parts.

It can be seen that the Imo river still has to pass through Akwa-Ibom before it gets to the sea.

sleekdot:
And Nigeria would sit and allow you to dredge its water ways? Siddon there make trouser dey wear you

The only water Biafra go see na from rain , well, river Niger and Gutters unless you get people to supply you enough pure water from the Southwest

ezeagu:
Not the Calabar River, the New Kalabar River running from Port Harcourt, and the comment on mangroves means the whole area is landless, it's just vegetation and water connected to barrier islands. I told you I don't know, you'll have to find out the sizes of the for yourself, according to wikipedia the average discharge of the Imo is nearly twice the rhine and the according to Google maps the Imo at Obete (Igboland) is at least 1000 ft wide excluding mangrove and other vegetation. The Rhine has an average of 1,300 ft, the River Thames for comparison has bridges which are only 800 ft wide and it has carried all sorts of naval ships, the Port of New Orleans on the Mississippi river meets the river at a width of 2000ft, yet this is the river.

ezeagu:
What I know is tankers enter both the New Kalabar and Imo (Ibeno) to a certain extent near Igbo land, all that's left is a bit of dredging. The Onne Wharf is less than 1000 ft in width.

The UN is sympathetic towards access to the sea, there's is no way Nigeria will be supported if it tries to use islands as a way to block Port Harcourt or whatever other port.