robosky02:



he has pass his prime

dont think we need him

lexyman:


That is the cause . Anytime you leave a particular thread , wait for some time before you comment on another thread , if not anti spam will catch up with u and you will be ban.

safarigirl:
pass which prime mbok? Nothing like that

Thegoodjoe, my only bros on NL besides iamkingzlee, biko gwa m, how do they say 'brother' and 'I beg you in God's name' in our language that my father has refused o teach me? English dey tire pesin

Icon4s:


Abiodun Obafemi and Teslim Fatusi were part of the 1993 U20. Emmanuel Amuneke played at the 1991 AAG (Cairo 91).

Garba Lawal was in Esparence de Tunis, Taribo West was in Julius Berger while Kingsley Obieku was in d Nigerian league also. And all 3 were part of the qualifiers and were nt picked from Europe to be infused into d team.

TheGoodJoe:


You are 100% right here. I think this problem does not fall only on the coaches but the NFF. We should put up a fight to increase the pool of players in the pool of our National teams.

Agbonlahor also pointed this out. He says we do not contact them early enough and they do not feel wanted by the Nation.

The NFF should set up a committee on this. They should contact the players and find out those that are interested. Then the NFF should forward the names of interested players to the coaches.

TheGoodJoe:


But, Emmanuel Amunike was an A Super Star in Nigeria and Africa, Egypt before he went to Europe. The young man racked medals in African club football.

TheGoodJoe:


I hope you are wearing reading glasses. Also watch your tongue so you do not bite it.

Let's go.

Remember my Ibibio is bad O!

Eyen Eka Mi = My brother

Ke Eying Abasi = In the name of God. Not Eying is pronounced Eh-Ying.

Mbok = Please/I beg you.


Eyen Eka Mi, Ke Eying Abasi Mbok - My Brother I beg you in God's name.

safarigirl:
thank you..why is your Ibibio poor?

krattoss:
yeah who doesn't know Mikel is a good passer?..

u see their is a football adage that says that u are as good as ur last game...
now Mikel I know recently isn't the one I knew few years back..
in life.. improvement should be our priority and not depreciation..
....what happened to..contract reviews?..
when mata knew the handwriting on the clock.. he left for good.. so did dimaria and CO.

but in the case of Mikel. reverse is the case..

maybe one of the major thing keeping him there is the money..

mourinho doesn't like u.. fine.. get the fuk out..

go somewhere u are wanted for good. but guess what.. he doesn't give a fuk..

u saw Chelsea match against Bournemouth?

u saw Costa reaction after he was benched? yeah that's sign of hungry..
when last did Mikel complain been benched?
and right after that match mourinho was interviewed on Costa reaction.. he went ahead you mention great players that has already sat on the bench..
he mentioned hazard.. Terry.. Pedro.. guess what he didn't even mention Nigeria best mildfielder..

I THINK MIKEL I KNOW NOW IS LIVING IN PAST GLORIES UNLESS HE PROVES OTHERWISE..

I personally can't stand being benched in an ordinary training we do over here talking more of in a match.

forgiveness:

I noticed that many of us didn't really know how Nigeria(the dream team) was able to concur the world to emerge the winners at the 1996 Olympics football game in Atlanta. Many people do not really know how the so called Nigeria underdog team that were so called after been humiliated in their last friendly match at the National stadium prior to the Olympics which I personally witnessed at the stadium were able to defeat the almighty Brazilian and Argentina teams that paraded the best players in the world at that time or later became the best players in the world after the Olympics e.g Ronaldo, Bebeto, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Dede, Juninhor, Ortega, Hernan Crespo, Ayala, Diego Simon, etcetera etcetera.

This achievement didn't just come by mere luck or by trial and error. This feat was possible because the coach identified and picked players that were tested and trusted in top European leagues. Players that have already established themselves in their own clubs and in top European leagues. In fact, most of those players have already won laurels for themselves and their respective clubs. These laurels ranges from African footballer of the year, UEFA Champions League, Ligue 1, Africa nations cup, Eredivisie, Belgium pro league, Highest goal scorer(for their team), English FA cup, Belgium young player of the year, Coupe the France etcetera prior to the Olympics.

In this light, I want to present to you the profiles of these players before they made history by winning the Olympics football game in Atlanta in 1996. These will further help buttress my point that believe best players must be selected based on club performance rather than sentiment.


Celestine Babayaro: He is one of the best left back player Nigeria ever produced. Prior to the 1996 Olympics football game, Babayaro was already a regular players with Anderletch for two good seasons (1994/1995 & 1995/1996) in First Division. He helped his team to win the 1994/1995 league and 1995/1996 Belgium Super cup prior to the Olympics in 1996 which earned him the Belgian young football player of the year twice in both seasons.

Taribo West: Taribo seems to be the only player that was brought from a second division team in Europe to play in the 1996 Olympics. However, he helped Auxerre to successful win the Division 1 league to gain promotion into the Eredivisie league in 1996\1997 and the Coupe the France cup in 1994 & 1996 prior to the first victorious Olympics football game by an African team. His just promoted team won the 1996/1996 Ligue 1. As we can see he played regular before he man our defense at the Olympics.


Nwankwo-kanu: This name is a house hold name in Nigeria. He doesn't need much introduced but for the sake of those who don't know him before the Olympics, I will highlight his profile. He won 3 Eredivisie league(1993/1994,1994/1995 & 1996/1997), UEFA Champions League (1994/1995), UEFA Super Cup(1995) and Intercontinental Cup(1995) before he singlehandedly and heroically punctured the dreams of Ronaldo and his co dreamers from winning the Olympics for the first time with his sublime and well taken two goals that earned us the Finals. As you also see he was used to winning for top teams before.......


To be continued.....

forgiveness:


Uche Okechukwu: He went to the Olympics as one of the three over aged players. Uche (the gentle giant) was already an established player with the Super Eagles and has also already won laurels with the National team. However, his inclusion in the dream team was strictly based on his form at time. Prior to the Olympics, he helped Fernerbahce to win the Super Lig in 1995/1996 season.

Emmanuel Amuneke: Amunike was also chosen as an over ages player. This is simply because prior to the Olympics, he helped Sporting Lisbon to win the Portuguese cup in 1994\1995 season and he was the best player in Nigeria at that time.


Tijani Babangida: Despite the fact that he was among the class of the 1993 under 17 world Cup winning team. He was already on the book of Roda FC in the Eredivisie league since 1991 and he was already a prolific goal scorer. In 1992/1993 season he scored 16 league goals for VVV Venlo in the Eerste Divisie ( next to Eredivisie) which was enough to make them gain promotion to the Eredivisie. In 1993/1994 season he scored 11 league goals for Roda FC in the Eredivisie. He went ahead to become the highest goal scorer for Roda FC in the 1995/1996 season with 10 goals and also scored goals in UEFA Cup competition prior to the Olympics.

TheGoodJoe:


Inter tribal marriage. My mum is Igbo. Abia State, Ukwa East Local Government. Then, I was born and raised in Port Harcourt. So I was always far from the language.

TheGoodJoe:


It is a different Babangida in the U17 World Cup. The Japan '93 is Ibrahim Babangida.

safarigirl:
so your Igbo is average/good then?

forgiveness:
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You are right but I have modified it.

forgiveness:
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You are right but I have modified it.

forgiveness:
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You are right but I have modified it.

TheGoodJoe:


It is not just calling them but remember it takes time for players to adjust to the coaches philosophy. So Coach Siasia can not just drop his present lads and fill the teams with Foreigners. Clubs can also delay the release of players, which can frustrate the coaches plans.

forgiveness:


All these players are professionals, they can easily adjust to any coach philosophy.

He will have no choice but to drop when he sees better players.

I don't think clubs can delay players from FIFA recognized competition.

TheGoodJoe:


Do you know that in your list of Foreign based players who are eligible for the Olympics, none of them are up to the class of the players of the 1996 Olympics. Kanu was already a star player of the Champions League winning Ajax.

Finidi George was the best winger in the World But he could not make it into the team as an overage player.

Now, which right winger in your list of foreign players will you place over Tongoli Tonbara?

TheGoodJoe:


Icon4s believes the home base lads who are in the squad are as good as those names you listed.

Just as Westerhoff believed in the talents of some home based players to build the National team. Someone like Sunday Oliseh was a home base player in the Super Eagles before he became a Top Class midfielder.

Remember Coach Keshi relying on home based players to deliver the AFCON.

TheGoodJoe:


Barca delayed Messi. Argentina had to use FIFA to get him. The clubs can.

Even professional players take time to adjust. Remember how Terry fumbled playing to Villas-Boas philosophy. That was a top class defender. One of the best in the world.

At the end, I think the Coach should invite as many as he can. Select those who can meet up to his demands. This includes players that can easily adapt to his games.

TheGoodJoe:


[b]You can not put Mikel in the shoes of Costa. How many Nigerians have reached the stage Mikel has reached? Chelsea bench self, few. It is not beans for Africans. Before Mancini, Yaya was warming the bench at Barca or playing defence. Mancini rescued him. Look at Seydou Keita with all his talents. Do you think Harry Kane is half the attacker Adebayor is?

It is harder for Africans. Mata can pick up his bag and leave. Hazard can get a knock and sub himself. Africans can not. Look at history. Even blacks self have it rough.

See Anelka and his Nazi style celebration. He ended at India. That is a World Class Super star. Talk less of Mikel.

He is African. No coaching job in Europe for Africans. The shoes are different. If Mikel throws Bib at Mourinho, it is Indonesia he will play his football.

Mata, Di Maria, Costa can go home to their country and still make cool money.

Mikel is not living on his past glory. Will you call his performance against Spain past glory? Or, his AFCON performance past Glory. What about his performance in our 2-2 game against South Africa or the recent games Oliseh hailed Mikel.[/b]

TheGoodJoe:


Icon4s believes the home base lads who are in the squad are as good as those names you listed.

Just as Westerhoff believed in the talents of some home based players to build the National team. Someone like Sunday Oliseh was a home base player in the Super Eagles before he became a Top Class midfielder.

Remember Coach Keshi relying on home based players to deliver the AFCON.