dmandy:
Okay. That was a bible passage I posted here (matt 21:23): But it's okay by me if you think Bible is nonsense. Even atheist believe the same thing.

ur inability to answer my question and provide a bible passage to support your argucment has made u to act unreasonable and i dont engage with people who dont reason. This clearly proves u are a self induced ignorant person.

EMILO2STAY:
ur inability to answer my question and provide a bible passage to support your argucment

I am not arguing anything with you oga. I only said Jesus approves of Temple. Simple. If Jesus could go to preach in a temple for any reason, then he approves of it. To approve means to consider something okay. Take a trip to Imo state, the Governor has declared free education. Go and learn what it means for someone to approve of something.

has made u to act unreasonable

I didn't call you unreasonable when you altered the wordings of a bible passage to suite what I don't know.

EMILO2STAY: Jesus himself said '' a time shall come and now is when the true worshipers of God will no longer go to the temple or the mountain to worship but those who want to do so will do it in spirit and in truth.

and i dont engage with people who dont reason.

If you knew what reason looks like, you would know the meaning of approval.

This clearly proves u are a self induced ignorant person.

Better than other people's inflicted ignorance.

dmandy:
I am not arguing anything with you oga. I only said Jesus approves of Temple. Simple. If Jesus could go to preach in a temple for any reason, then he approves of it. To approve means to consider something okay. Take a trip to Imo state, the Governor has declared free education. Go and learn what it means for someone to approve of something. I didn't call you unreasonable when you altered the wordings of a bible passage to suite what I don't know. If you knew what reason looks like, you would know the meaning of approval. Better than other people's inflicted ignorance.

continue in your ignorance mr.

EMILO2STAY:
continue in your ignorance mr.

I will try.

adsonstone:

Simple and polite request,
"Kindly repost your questions, separate them so I can see the ones you claim I've not answered" You couldn't, simply because there are no outstanding questions...it's part of the dubious you anyway.

Really?

adsonstone:

As for this one;
First, you have to show where the guy declared that "Jesus didn't approve the rosary"...let's know if he actually said it or if it is another false allegation...as usual.

Which "one"? I thought you said there was no outstanding question. That I'm dubious. Then which question are you answering?

Mr Deeper Life! Smh

italo:


Lol...you're telling me to post the questions, while quoting and dodging the questions.



Then answer the question in the 1st pic in the post you quoted.

If you don't mind a bonus: what is the summary of your contribution to this thread again? I honestly don't get it? I know the others are honest in declaring that they are condemning the Rosary (even though they can't muster good rationale).

I GUESS D SUMMARY THAT THOSE CONDEMING HAVE NO CASE.

Funny thing is I first asked you a question before you replied me not with an answer but a series of questions and you sit behind your and accuse me of dishonesty. I remeber asking you that in Luke1:9, in the temple of which God was Zechariah chosen to burn incense? . Let me do well to answer your questions to the best of my ability and see if you can honestly do the same.

EMILO2STAY:
i asked a question u are still yet to answer. Is zachariah a christian?,

I would say yes.

was the temple built by christians or for christians

I wouldn't know who built the temple but I'm very sure it was built for those who worship Yahweh and any true christian would fall in this category just like Zechariah

why did the temple veil rent in two when christ died?

First I would like to educate you on the Jewish tradition of shiva. Whenever a close relative dies and upon hearing the news one is expected to tear the garment he his wearing which is then called Keriah as a sign of grieve. This garment is then worn throughout the period of shiva . I believe a more plausible explanation as to why the temple veil was rent into two was to represent the grieve felt by all who will claim to be part of Christ body. Sure the grieve didn't last for a night as the resurrection of Christ turned all sorrows into joy.

If u dishonesty will not let u answer them, stop replying me with meaningless things such as this ur every house is a temple nonsense.

Lastly lacing your posts with insults does not validate them. It only shows how shallow you are. Let's see if you can attempt the only single question I have been asking all day.

@adsonstone Lol...when you're ready to answer questions, we will know.

1. You claim to have answered all my questions. Do you remember the question in the 1st pic? If so, can you show where you answered it?

You haven't shown where you answered the question before you claimed you had answered all my questions.

2. The 2nd picture is you dodging my other questions.
3. The third picture is you continuing to dodge them, even affirming that you skipped them...and then answering only one of about four questions.
4. The fourth picture is you pretending as if you hadn't been dodging my questions and me posting the questions again.
All these happened before you finally answered them after I had posted them 3 times...Yet you claim I'm a hypocrite for not answering your questions.
What is it when you first choose how many times to ignore my questions but you get demonize me when I ignore you? Hypocrisy or not?

No answer!

What is it when you claim that you've answered all my questions but you haven't? Lie or not?

No answer!

Then answer the question in the 1st pic in the post you quoted.

You haven't answered. You already saw where he said the Rosary isn't of God...and you're asking where he said Jesus didn't approve.

If you don't mind a bonus: what is the summary of your contribution to this thread again? I honestly don't get it? I know the others are honest in declaring that they are condemning the Rosary (even though they can't muster good rationale).

This is the only one you answered.

What a lot of rubbish.

dmandy:
The question about Images and Rosary is one every Catholic has every reason to ask.

Some have been bold enough to ask. All who had bothered to ask, received different answers and acted upon it. However, the answers they got was dependent on who they asked. One of the most inspiring books I have ever read The Richest Man in Babylon teaches that if you want to know about brick-making, you don't go to a tailor, but to a brick-maker. St James tells us that for those who lack wisdom, there is only ONE right person to ask 'God'(Jams 1:5). You don't go to ask a fool about wisdom(Prov 23:9).

To those who asked brocab and friends about Images and rosary, the following answers were given
* Making any image (including pictures, house plans, symbols, any form of arts and crafts) is sin.
* Kissing your awards (cups, medals, pictures) in admiration is sin
* building a temple (church buildings and by extension houses) is a sin.
For those that asked olaadegbu and group, they were told that images on the tv screen (which they called devil's box) is sin as well talk less of physical one. * they say saying 'hail mary' and 'the lords prayer' is sinful.
I do not write for these ones who asked these men, they must have made their choice to leave the church. Right or wrong, only God can tell.

Some others asked italo and friends and were told that 'all the prayers of the rosary are contained in the holy bible', They were also told that Ex. 20 did not condemn images but on the contrary that God made his own image (Gen 1:26) and encouraged his people to make images (Numb 21, Ex 25, 1Kngs 9, Rev 1:11, habk 2:2 etc). However, God is against making images and worshipping it as God (Ex 32:4) since He did not show himself in any form when He spoke in the mist of fire (Deut 4:14/15). They were also told that God was letter going to show himself in form of a MAN Jesus Christ(Phil 2:.
I do not write for these ones who received these answers for they have known the truth and remained in their faith.

I however, write for those who are afraid to ask questions for fear of asking the wrong people, and for what people might say. To these ones I say don not live in ignorance, if you don't know 'ASK'. Be not afraid to ask questions concerning your faith, be like the Berean Jews (Acts 17:11).

- When they tell you that you will go to hell because you are a catholic, tell them that you won't go heaven or to hell because you are a catholic but based on your deeds.(rom 2:16)
- when they say you say 'hail Mary' tell them that God first said it through angel Gabriel.
- when they say Mary is a demon, tell them that if it pleased God to use her there is no need questioning her.
- When they say you have a demon because they can't find the word 'rosary' in the bible smile and say they even said John the Baptist had a demon because they couldn't find what he was saying in the scriptures.
-When ask whether God asked you to honor Mary, say Yes! The Holy Spirit says all ages including yours shall call her blessed.
-When they ask you how Mary is your mother, remind them that you are a beloved disciple. (John 19:26)
-Rejoice and be glad not just because you are a catholic but also because your name have been written in the book of life.

All the dirt they pour on you because of your faith will do you no harm (Its not what goes into a man that destroys him, but what comes out). Remember, not one of the many garbage thrown at General Buhari before the elections stopped him from being president Buhari today. (I know, I just had to find a way to chip that in). Let us not forget to pray for him and the country today as he celebrates his birthday.


Today also, another great man celebrates his birthday, Pope Francis I. Let us remember him in our prayers as we enter the last week of advent today in anticipation of the coming of Our Savior in Christmas!!!

God bless You, All.

So what you are trying to say "Is" That some one is you, and everything you have written below-resides more on you.

dmandy:


People agree what makes them feel good.

1. some agree that Jesus was only an angel

2. some agree that there is no God

3. some agree that the bible is fiction

4. some agree that medications is sinful

5. to some taking pictures is idolatry

6. to others, kanu kissing golden cup in Atlanta is idolatry. etc


I have no right to argue what you agree or not... social ethics demands that I respect that.

brocab:
No the Catholic Church had proven to the world what faith they believe, and the time is ticking at are fast rate, soon everyone will see Lucifer's glory raise above the Vatican.
Turn from your evil ways-and come follow after Christ-fully.

SMH.... Its 2000 years now and the glory of lucifer never rise for Vatican. I wonder how long it will take before it happens, even in the church's darkest history, it didnt happen... I could remember when St John Paul died, all these protestants were dishing out prophesies from left, right and center, claiming that Benedict will be the last pope before Peter the Roman will come and take over catholic church, now, its almost 3 years after Benedict resigned, we are still waiting for the Peter. Some were praying for the sexual abuse case to cripple the church, yet it keeps growing... Some still hoped that the issue of same sex marriage will split the church as it did to Anglican Church, yet the church keeps growing... Even the US with its high rate of Atheism gave and Pope a shocking welcome when he paid them a visit...

My brother, am sure that your children's children children children children will still make that bolded statement (thats if they didnt even convert to catholic) and their generation will pass whilst the church will still be marching on...

This is why I would find it hard to become a Catholic. I couldn't share your gospel to anyone-you claim you know Christ-but really you are wolves in sheep clothing, time after time you and italo have twisted words around that none of us quoter's have written, your church had taught you both well-how to catch a Christian. You would go as far as lowing yourselves down-to your level of understanding, only because the truth is killing you both.
A lot of what you have written below is your own lies, that you have chosen to share to the world..{You can't get wisdom out of a stone}
Quote>Jesus also added love your wife's and hate her picture? {Show me where Jesus said that?}
Quote>A athlete who kissed her golden medal out of admiration must be on highway to hell {you are really confused aren't you, She isn't bowing down worshipping it}
Again It shows you are confused-about watching TV or reading news papers, looking at an image for one or two days. You know very well what Jesus is preferring too, you have broken two of the 10 commandments, and now you are trying to justify yourselves-by twisting His word around.
Quote>With what did God make his image in Genesis? Gold? {How can God make an image out of Gold-when he is Spirit}
Lie 1" Here comes the twist.
Quote>But you said having a picture in the first place, is idolatry. you also said you don't have pictures of yourself as that will amount to idolatry.
I don't worship myself-nor do I bow down-praising myself, as you do, with Mary that's made from clay.
Watching TV, reading imagines, thinking of a love one-taken photo's, winning medals, owning a car, isn't Idol worship, spending time with your families, friends, all pets isn't idol worship.

All around the globe' we can find only One Church that stands above all other Churches, the Catholic Church, having the name that stands above on high, proudly sitting on her rock, having the name that no other name is above, proudly announcing the true idol worshipper's that no other Church can stand. True paganism had rocked the city's of the Roman empire-the Catholic Church, are the people who praise and worship clay images, statues built for every eye to see-that your paganism still exist within the Vatican, while the Pope allows to world to follow after the breast.

dmandy:
Exactly why discussing with u is waste of my precious time but I won't stop because a lot of people are reading who value the truth. You lie. But u make to represent him in your mind. Image is image whether in your head, on the screen, in the mirror, on paper or 3D. It is image. Any image starts from the head I hope you know? Praise God for that.
By their fruits not by their words.

Jesus also added love your wife and hate her picture. An athlete who kissed her golden medal out of admiration must be on high way to hell.
Of course I compared them both, but did not equate them. The image of a person is an extension of him/her. I have never set my eyes on my amiable president who happens to be +1 today, but I know him through his image on my tv screen and pages of newspapers. Understand that.
That's actually third. You don't say first, second and first again. calm down. With what did God make his image in Genesis? Gold?
But having Mary's is. Is she not someones family? idolizing ur pastor inside the church, bowing down and praying to him isn't.
except if the photo is that of Mary.
But u said having the picture in the first place is idolatry. You also said you don't have pictures of yourself as that would amount to idolatry.

Thank God. Glory to Jesus. okay, people find out what they like. Some believed that Jesus had evil spirit (Mark 3:30) And u know Lucifer is the angel of light. hmmmm.
hahahahaha!!! God should come of whereever HE is? And go and stay where you want HIM to be?

Receive your healing in Jesus' Name! Amen

The gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I AM IN CHRIST AND CHRIST IN GOD. U see, coming out is a long thing.

And still the Church will keep on marching on towards hell.

Rich4god:
SMH.... Its 2000 years now and the glory of lucifer never rise for Vatican. I wonder how long it will take before it happens, even in the church's darkest history, it didnt happen... I could remember when St John Paul died, all these protestants were dishing out prophesies from left, right and center, claiming that Benedict will be the last pope before Peter the Roman will come and take over catholic church, now, its almost 3 years after Benedict resigned, we are still waiting for the Peter. Some were praying for the sexual abuse case to cripple the church, yet it keeps growing... Some still hoped that the issue of same sex marriage will split the church as it did to Anglican Church, yet the church keeps growing... Even the US with its high rate of Atheism gave and Pope a shocking welcome when he paid them a visit...

My brother, am sure that your children's children children children children will still make that bolded statement (thats if they didnt even convert to catholic) and their generation will pass whilst the church will still be marching on...

brocab:
And still the Church will keep on marching on towards hell.

I guess you are the gate keeper to hell thats why you know this....

brocab:
What a lot of rubbish.

You sound pained. Sorry.

This is what happens when you have countless numbers of protestant churches 1at they are half baked Christians because anything outside the bible is paganism, sorry for u lot. My people perish for lack of knowledge and truly u lot are demonstrating this right now.

brocab:
This is why I would find it hard to become a Catholic.

Nobody is asking you to here as much I as know. I am only saying that you should stop having nightmares when you hear the word Catholic

I couldn't share your gospel to anyone-

This is not my problem

you claim you know Christ

I do.

-but really you are wolves in sheep clothing,

Why are u angry?

time after time you and italo have twisted words around that none of us quoter's have written,

You can do well to post where dmandy twisted your words so that people will see.

your church had taught you both well-how to catch a Christian.

exactly.

You would go as far as lowing yourselves down

Flesh and Blood has not revealed this statement @Bold to you.

-to your level of understanding, only because the truth is killing you both.

Truth does not kill. It saves. If your truth is killing then you have to check it again.

A lot of what you have written below is your own lies, that you have chosen to share to the world..

I will apologize for any lie I told anyone, just prove it's a lie.

{You can't get wisdom out of a stone}

This is not a lie.

Quote>Jesus also added love your wife's and hate her picture? {Show me where Jesus said that?}

This question was addressed to you. When you said you don't make images of yourself.

brocab: Secondly" No' I don't make any images of myself ...

But instead of answering simply yes or no. Here are you are accusing me of lying. Let me help you Jesus doesn't hate the image of your wife, so you shouldn't.

Quote>A athlete who kissed her golden medal out of admiration must be on highway to hell {you are really confused aren't you, She isn't bowing down worshipping it}

But she is kissing an image, isn't she? This follows from your telling me that kissing a statue is a sin.

brocab: Many kiss the feet of Mary that's made out of clay, that's is classed as idol worship.

A sincere person would have answered yes or No.

Again It shows you are confused-about watching TV or reading news papers, looking at an image for one or two days.

Now, brocab is saying that what makes images a sin is how long one looks at them. Sorry.

You know very well what Jesus is preferring too, you have broken two of the 10 commandments, and now you are trying to justify yourselves-by twisting His word around.

I understand what the 10 commandments are saying and I am saying that I am not breaking anyone of them by having images. If having my image is not a sin, definitely having Mary's won't be. But you close your eyes to that because you want to accuse. I never twisted any of God's word. Bring it on.

Quote>With what did God make his image in Genesis? Gold? {How can God make an image out of Gold-when he is Spirit}

Hahahahahahahaha. That means God did not make his image out of Gold but Clay. Brocab said

brocab: First God is Love, God's image isn't clay.

But the Bible said

Job33:6:
Behold, I am according to thy wish in God's stead: I also am formed out of the clay.

Now, who is lying?

Lie 1" Here comes the twist.

Bring it on.

Quote>But you said having a picture in the first place, is idolatry. you also said you don't have pictures of yourself as that will amount to idolatry.

This is no lie. I asked

dmandy: Image: a representation of the external form of a person or thing in art. Have you ever made an image of yourself? Are u in the earth? If you so, are you disobeying God? Be sincere.

Your sincere answer

brocab: Secondly" No' I don't make any images of myself nor do I make any images to represent Christ in my home

Obviously, you inferred that making images of yourself is idolatry. Lie 1 debunked. Bring on the next.

I don't worship myself-nor do I bow down-praising myself, as you do, with Mary that's made from clay.

The reason you don't worship yourself is because you don't bow down praising yourself? what if you stand up praising yourself? Why Mary's own is different is because she is made of clay? And you brocab you are made of wood?

Watching TV, reading imagines, thinking of a love one-taken photo's, winning medals, owning a car, isn't Idol worship, spending time with your families, friends, all pets isn't idol worship.

God bless for this.

All around the globe' we can find only One Church that stands above all other Churches,

There is nothing like other churches, The church of Christ is ONE.

the Catholic Church, having the name that stands above on high,

Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you.

proudly sitting on her THE rock, having the name that no other name is above, proudly announcing the true idol worshipper's that no other Church can stand.

Enjoy yourself.

True paganism had rocked the city's of the Roman empire-the Catholic Church, are the people who praise and worship clay images, statues built for every eye to see-that your paganism still exist within the Vatican, while the Pope allows to world to follow after the breast.

Which breast? Calm down bro, high blood pressure is real o.

brocab:
So what you are trying to say "Is" That some one is you, and everything you have written below-resides more on you.

Try harder, you will enventually get what I am saying. English hard.

[quote author=italo post=12741055]

You don't want to know why non-Catholics kneel and bow to their beds? Is bowing to a bed not idolatry?

Are you sure the Bible condemns repetitive prayers of Catholics?

Rev 4:8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:

“‘Holy, holy, holy

is the Lord God Almighty,’

who was, and is, and is to come.”

These heavenly beings are obviously very Catholic then. They keep repeating the same prayer forever and ever.

Jesus is also Catholic. He prayed the the cup should pass over him using the same thing THREE times.

The Bible condemns all of us, right?[/quote
Guy relax ur own self too much.

Ichiato:
Funny thing is I first asked you a question before you replied me not with an answer but a series of questions and you sit behind your and accuse me of dishonesty. I remeber asking you that in Luke1:9, in the temple of which God was Zechariah chosen to burn incense? . Let me do well to answer your questions to the best of my ability and see if you can honestly do the same. I would say yes.I wouldn't know who built the temple but I'm very sure it was built for those who worship Yahweh and any true christian would fall in this category just like Zechariah First I would like to educate you on the Jewish tradition of shiva. Whenever a close relative dies and upon hearing the news one is expected to tear the garment he his wearing which is then called Keriah as a sign of grieve. This garment is then worn throughout the period of shiva . I believe a more plausible explanation as to why the temple veil was rent into two was to represent the grieve felt by all who will claim to be part of Christ body. Sure the grieve didn't last for a night as the resurrection of Christ turned all sorrows into joy. Lastly lacing your posts with insults does not validate them. It only shows how shallow you are. Let's see if you can attempt the only single question I have been asking all day.

zachariah is a christian!!, a christian who sacrifised ram in the temple God?. Now i know i have been wasting my time with an insane human .

italo:


Really?


Which "one"? I thought you said there was no outstanding question. That I'm dubious. Then which question are you answering?

Mr Deeper Life! Smh

Another false allegation!

Show me where the guy said 'Jesus did not approve the rosary!'

Simple!
Why are you forcing what did not happen to have happened?

Are you ashamed to accept that he never said so?
That's the dubious you I'm talking about!

EMILO2STAY:
zachariah is a christian!!, a christian who sacrifised ram in the temple God?. Now i know i have been wasting my time with an insane human .

Is it not the same God christians worship require him to make those sacrifices? Not that expect your shallow self to attempt any of my questions anyway

Ichiato:
Is it not the same God christians worship require him to make those sacrifices? Not that expect your shallow self to attempt any of my questions anyway

otondo do christians sacrifise rams to God? U called zacharih a christian, do christians enter temple to burn incense and make sacrifises to God? U keep beating around bush talkng nonsense.

EMILO2STAY:
otondo do christians sacrifise rams to God? U called zacharih a christian, do christians enter temple to burn incense and make sacrifises to God? U keep beating around bush talkng nonsense.

The shallow one comes up with even more questions when he has failed to answer any one of my questions. What more is expected from such a person. We just have to wait and see

Revelation 8:3-4
Another angel with a golden censer came and stood at the altar; he was given a great quantity of incense to offer with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar that is before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, rose before God from the hand of the angel

I'm also sure the angel here offering incense is not a christian.

Ichiato:
The shallow one comes up with even more questions when he has failed to answer any one of my questions. What more is expected from such a person. We just have to wait and see
I'm also sure the angel here offering incense is not a christian.

when christ thought the apostles how to pray did he say they should offer insence upon an alter like the angel in revelation did?. U catholics are in deep ignorance. Did christ burn insence when he prayed to God?, Were in the bible is it commanded that christians should burn insence when praying?.

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adsonstone:



Another false allegation!

Show me where the guy said 'Jesus did not approve the rosary!'

Simple!
Why are you forcing what did not happen to have happened?

Are you ashamed to accept that he never said so?
That's the dubious you I'm talking about!

I posted where he said it in the picture containing the outstanding question which you claimed never existed...yet responded to it.

It's not my fault that you reply a question...then deny it's existence.

EMILO2STAY:
when christ thought the apostles how to pray did he say they should offer insence upon an alter like the angel in revelation did?. U catholics are in deep ignorance. Did christ burn insence when he prayed to God?, Were in the bible is it commanded that christians should burn insence when praying?.

Did Christ tell you that the way he prayed his the only acceptable way to pray? Where in the bible did it say never to offer incense to God? Keep dancing skelewu with your irrelevant questions. Very soon you will ask me where in the bible did it say we should eat amala and ewedu like pastoraio

italo:
[email][/email]

I posted where he said it in the picture containing the outstanding question which you claimed never existed...yet responded to it.

It's not my fault that you reply a question...then deny it's existence.

Show me where the guy said 'Jesus did not approve the
rosary!'

Simple!

Show me where he said the bold!
Did he ever say it or not?

EMILO2STAY:
otondo do christians sacrifise rams to God? U called zacharih a christian, do christians enter temple to burn incense and make sacrifises to God? U keep beating around bush talkng nonsense.

MY DEAR THE BIBLE SAYS WHAT IS WRITTEN IN D PAST IS FOR OUR INSTRUCTION. IF ZACHARIAH BURN INCENSE AND IT DOESN'T OFFEND GOD BUT ACTUALLY ACCEPTABLE TO HIM AND EVEN THE WORSHIP IN HEAVEN HAVE INCENSE AND GOD IS NOT ANGRY, WHY THEN DO YOU THINK GOD DISAPPROVE WHEN CATHOLICS BURN INCENSE? OR DOES IT JUST BECOME SINFUL WHEN CATHOLICS DO IT?
REMEMBER D FIRST ARGUMENT IS THAT INCENSE IS NOT BIBLICAL AND THAT HAS BEEN CLEARLY DEBUNKED.

EMILO2STAY:
when christ thought the apostles how to pray did he say they should offer insence upon an alter like the angel in revelation did?. U catholics are in deep ignorance. Did christ burn insence when he prayed to God?, Were in the bible is it commanded that christians should burn insence when praying?.

CHRIST WHO WENT TO THE TEMPLE WERE INCENSE WAS FREQUENTLY BURNT DIDN'T COMPLAIN, GOD WHO USE INCENSE IN HEAVEN ISN'T COMPLAINING.
WHY ARE U CONDEMNING WERE GOD DIDN'T CONDEMN?

Theirs nothing I can say will change your mind, but we either listen to the word of God, all we don't, its your choice.

italo:


Where did I change my mind?

I know you have a mental deficiency but I still stand by my words that the Catholic Church gave us the Bible and the Rosary and God confirmed to me that both were from him.

Hmm Lord help your people open there eyes that they may see, I have to be sincere I weep for u protestant after reading your ignorant posts left and right now I truly believe ignorance is bad.

if Mary's role is to help point people to Christ and u call her a demon for that, remember Christianity mission has always been about pointing people to Christ so I can't imagine when u say someone who does it is now a demon abi demon don begin repent dey do good.

Mary is a co-redeemer so are we too because we win souls for Christ, hence it's through Him, with Him and in Him, Mary's role never Changes as she will still come and bring more messages of repentance and help to people in need.

Its so bad that you can't see the truth dangling clearly in front of your eyes.

May God help us.