luxanne:


Plagiarism without giving a reference to where the information is gotten? Yes it is a fraud.

Can you please tell me you didnt also lift information from the internet to buttress your point?

Dear respected judge, that is not enough measures to justify the mindless lifter. If someone lifts and makes sure what he or lifts is not more than his or her handiwork, that one is mindful lifting. But here 80% of the guy's essay is lifted and only 20% is his handiwork I think, that is mindless lifting. I don't know why you don't see anything wrong with the guy' questionable attitude. Pls. Sir/Ma, refer back to his post and the website to see it yourself.
Thank you.

luxanne:


Plagiarism without giving a reference to where the information is gotten? Yes it is a fraud.

Can you please tell me you didnt also lift information from the internet to buttress your point?

If you insist nothing is wrong with that essay except for the word count, that means you are saying this competition is testing our lifting prowess not our writing prowess. Thank you

Tourshaw:


If you insist nothing is wrong with that essay except for the word count, that means you are saying this competition is testing our lifting prowess not our writing prowess. Thank you

Next Stage will tell sir....

Fynestboi:

NOTED, However the 5 marks for presentation is embedded with some other things like (opening, closing remarks etc) word count takes just 1mark out from presentation..

True that. So this leaves it at 5 *3 (judges) = 15

Hence, 15 points be deducted from UI and UNIUYO

Fynestboi:
[size=18pt]GRAND TOTAL...


Unilorin: 104
UNIJOS: 103
UNIBADAN : 105 - 15 = 90
UNIUYO : 108 - 15 = 93[/size]



KingTom
Sateje
Adeaks

Thank you all.

Fynestboi:
caracta ma

Lol...no vex.

Good job here.

Caracta:


Lol...no vex.

Good job here.

misplaced my phone with sim so i lost your contact can you please help me send it to my mail ma?


please...

UNIBADAN and UNIUYO there is still hope for you in the next spot. so hang around.......












Exceeding stipulated word count... attracts deduction of 5marks....

Thanks...



To Unibadan team sorry for any inconvenience.

luxanne:


Thank you all.

So now the bitter ones are happy,their noisemaking have been heard and authenticated, thought debating was just like football where the referees-judges whistle is final...Anyways,thank you Ma'm Luzanne and Finestboi,its a pisma pisma-sorry state that the people representing my GROUP(6) are not great debaters,i just hope and pray they will up their game and win the championship....Itwas great being here and participating, I love being the best and that is one thing you cant take from me,i am the best among the best ...GOODLUCK TO YOU ALL,and if i am called again,just if,i will make you all eat your words......I also want to apologize to my team member,a colleague and a friend GEESTARRY,in the same vein thank her.





AKANINYENE ARCHIBONG-BEST DEBATER

Tourshaw:



Dear respected judge, that is not enough measures to justify the mindless lifter. If someone lifts and makes sure what he or lifts is not more than his or her handiwork, that one is mindful lifting. But here 80% of the guy's essay is lifted and only 20% is his handiwork I think, that is mindless lifting. I don't know why you don't see anything wrong with the guy' questionable attitude. Pls. Sir/Ma, refer back to his post and the website to see it yourself.
Thank you.

Dear esteemed debater, I understand your grievances. How painful it is that your opponent lifted most of his information from the internet while you tasked your brain in yours, I saw that and I understood you fully well but you also need to understand with me that it is no small feat lifting such information and then presenting them logically and also referencing them.

Tell me, would you have known he lifted those information if you didn't go through his references? Besides, one of the modalities of the debate says Strength of facts, examples, cases. The list you saw were examples of corrupt leaders to buttress his points which unfortunately took most of his essay and made his essay longer which he has been penalized on.

I do appreciate your calling our attention to all these. It will definitely get better OK?

Tourshaw:


If you insist nothing is wrong with that essay except for the word count, that means you are saying this competition is testing our lifting prowess not our writing prowess. Thank you

TBH, I appreciate essays written from a personal point of view just like yours and others - not being lifted and if I were to be in a debate, that is how I'l write because the end result is, it improves your writing prowess just like you opined and that, noone can take away from you.

Please don't be deterred OK? I would really love to see you all in the next round

luxanne:


TBH, I appreciate essays written from a personal point of view just like yours and others - not being lifted and if I were to be in a debate, that is how I'l write because the end result is, it improves your writing prowess just like you opined and that, noone can take away from you.

Please don't be deterred OK? I would really love to see you all in the next round

Alright Ma. Thanks for taking serious action upon our claim as this will go along way in massaging the wound I am nursing and the same time restore your integrity. To all, who by one way or the other supported us in cleansing this competition by giving the day to the deserved team, thanks. To my fellow undergraduate, learned friend, dongraspo, the self proclaimed best debater, I hold no grudge against you. I just wanted nothing but undiluted probity which my Better by far institution teaches, and thanks to our rational judges. So please, rest in peace boss, I mean sleep well, we shall surely meet again. And I am sorry for any offensive comments. Can we be friends now after this unending e-battle?

Always learn to play within the confines of the rule.

Better luck next time Uniuyo and UI.

Tourshaw and Neyoor I appreciate your doggedness and pragmaticalness. Unilorites unto the next.

Thanks to the amiable Judges for heeding our plea. Nice on Fynestboi.

Fynestboi:
[size=15pt]To join the munificent in ensuring the participant instigation please kindly mail.. nairalandinterschooldebate@gmail.com.. [/size]

Simply put we need sponsors for THE DEBATE... THANKS..

luxanne:


TBH, I appreciate essays written from a personal point of view just like yours and others - not being lifted and if I were to be in a debate, that is how I'l write because the end result is, it improves your writing prowess just like you opined and that, noone can take away from you.

Please don't be deterred OK? I would really love to see you all in the next round

True!
I hope judges will heed to this.

Fynestboi:





Simply put we need sponsors for THE DEBATE... THANKS..

Write to corporate organisations na. They will be happy to support the debate of the most popular forum in Africa.
Don't know if Seun will agree to that sha

luxanne:


Thank you all.

15 marks?
Please explain judges

Fynestboi:




NOTED, However the 5 marks for presentation is embedded with some other things like (opening, closing remarks etc) word count takes just 1mark out from presentation..

5 marks each?
Speechless

Thank you (Chief) Moderator and the Judges for the opportunity and the lessons learnt so far.

In homes, children roll on the floor in protest to their parents, scatter things, in fact break things in the act just so that parents would listen to them. They grow up to understand they really would have just said it nicely and their parents either still would have provided what they wanted or had very good reasons not to -at the times the demands were made.

I believe representatives in the essay competition are University Undergrads, but this whole "public show" of bitterness as expressed in their language tells how far the oil has run from the head to the beard.

"Well, it is not too late for us to pull out of this contest if the integrity of the contest is questionable..." Excuse me, but threatening to leave the competition can be condoned at all? When it is not like your observations have been overlooked or unattended to? Then maybe footballers should fight the referees in most matches. And the subsequent ..."Pulling out? Are you new in this? If this is how others that pointed out one error or two had been pulling out, will there be third edition?..." was unnecessary, sincerely. Sounded too desperate to keep people in the competition. I would have assured him of a review of the score and in turn implore to comport himself, it is a competition amd threats are not allowed by participants, unless otherwise I am wrong.

Plus, "Hmm. UNIUYO played on the judges intelligence, I think the competition is still on and they should be penalized for it......" is an undue and incorrect summation; it is NOT a fact. UniUyo DID NOT do this, if a team member "lifted", the penalty should affect his personal scores as did one of the judges already [this by extension would affect the team's score]. I believe deducting from the grand totals was extreme. If the judges were asked to review his (the lifter's) marks, that would have been more appropriate. Deducting from the grand total implies two things:

a) That you ALSO deducted from his team mate's score who's essay (write-ups) was not faulted by any other contestant because she was careful to observe ALL the rules to the extent that she gave her word-count at the end of her essay. The judges are humans and no other person gave their word count to help them (the judges).

b) Even the score from the judge that had penalized him already has been affected the second time. This implies a double deduction from his score. Please, did he commit murder?

MY SUGGESTION
1. I could simply ask, what was the mark allotted for "word count"? That could be deducted from the dfaulters' score by the two other judges.

2. Lifting is subject to the judges' analysis. That should be personal for each judge to decide to the extent to which the scores they alloted him would be review. Unless there was an already laid down rule/standard, then and only then, would the judges come together, review the essay in question and agree upon WHETHER THE ACCUSED IS GUILTY for which the rule would be excuted.

If there was no laid down rule on this, upon deciding his fate, the judges MUST in turn consider all my observations above as a matter of tranparency in making a decision.

I must commend every input made by everyone in "the house". It seems we all presented our concerns more appropriately after my first observation; this goes a long in affirming how ready we are to do the right, if only our attentions are drawn and we are afforded the opporrunity to make amends.

Please, do not attack my person as a result of this, I am not enbittered by the second Grand Total Scores, I have just made my sincere observations, patiently walking through the very long "thread" of words.

Thank you

Geestarry
this is a good write-up.

someone(judges) should look into what she wrote......
it sound fair...

Thank you @gestary

OAUTemitayo:
Write to corporate organisations na. They will be happy to support the debate of the most popular forum in Africa.
Don't know if Seun will agree to that sha

It Is not. They support volunteerly if they wish to...

Lol.....

Dongraspo check your mail.

Dongraspo, according to his post, he is studying Anatomy.

[size=15pt]UNILORIN VS YABATECH
UNILAG VS UNIJOS... [/size]

Geestarry:
Thank you (Chief) Moderator and the Judges for the opportunity and the lessons learnt so far.

In homes, children roll on the floor in protest to their parents, scatter things, in fact break things in the act just so that parents would listen to them. They grow up to understand they really would have just said it nicely and their parents either still would have provided what they wanted or had very good reasons not to -at the times the demands were made.

I believe representatives in the essay competition are University Undergrads, but this whole "public show" of bitterness as expressed in their language tells how far the oil has run from the head to the beard.

"Well, it is not too late for us to pull out of this contest if the integrity of the contest is questionable..." Excuse me, but threatening to leave the competition can be condoned at all? When it is not like your observations have been overlooked or unattended to? Then maybe footballers should fight the referees in most matches. And the subsequent ..."Pulling out? Are you new in this? If this is how others that pointed out one error or two had been pulling out, will there be third edition?..." was unnecessary, sincerely. Sounded too desperate to keep people in the competition. I would have assured him of a review of the score and in turn implore to comport himself, it is a competition amd threats are not allowed by participants, unless otherwise I am wrong.

Plus, "Hmm. UNIUYO played on the judges intelligence, I think the competition is still on and they should be penalized for it......" is an undue and incorrect summation; it is NOT a fact. UniUyo DID NOT do this, if a team member "lifted", the penalty should affect his personal scores as did one of the judges already [this by extension would affect the team's score]. I believe deducting from the grand totals was extreme. If the judges were asked to review his (the lifter's) marks, that would have been more appropriate. Deducting from the grand total implies two things:

a) That you ALSO deducted from his team mate's score who's essay (write-ups) was not faulted by any other contestant because she was careful to observe ALL the rules to the extent that she gave her word-count at the end of her essay. The judges are humans and no other person gave their word count to help them (the judges).

b) Even the score from the judge that had penalized him already has been affected the second time. This implies a double deduction from his score. Please, did he commit murder?

MY SUGGESTION
1. I could simply ask, what was the mark allotted for "word count"? That could be deducted from the dfaulters' score by the two other judges.

2. Lifting is subject to the judges' analysis. That should be personal for each judge to decide to the extent to which the scores they alloted him would be review. Unless there was an already laid down rule/standard, then and only then, would the judges come together, review the essay in question and agree upon WHETHER THE ACCUSED IS GUILTY for which the rule would be excuted.

If there was no laid down rule on this, upon deciding his fate, the judges MUST in turn consider all my observations above as a matter of tranparency in making a decision.

I must commend every input made by everyone in "the house". It seems we all presented our concerns more appropriately after my first observation; this goes a long in affirming how ready we are to do the right, if only our attentions are drawn and we are afforded the opporrunity to make amends.

Please, do not attack my person as a result of this, I am not enbittered by the second Grand Total Scores, I have just made my sincere observations, patiently walking through the very long "thread" of words.

Thank you

Dnt tell u used phone to type ur presentation.....

Goodluck Ebele Jonathan

luxanne:


True that. So this leaves it at 5 *3 (judges) = 15

Hence, 15 points be deducted from UI and UNIUYO

haba, wetin won come remain again now....please just deduct 5marks each + they are first time offenders... fynest think am now
modified
i think u and fynestboi should look into this again, its too extreme...u have no idea what this will do to the debaters involved.