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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 12:22pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:



The same population that you guys said was slowing down Lagos ? And to which you justified depopulating Lagos via illegal deportations?


Typical change mouthers

We need more middle-income earners than a poor population. So getting rid of not so productive and attracting or keeping the productive is good for the state.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by NakedEve: 12:24pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:
The decline of the oil industry is going to be worse on the states of Lagos and kano.

Lagos because an analysis of the igr of Lagos shows that Lagos derived it's revenue from the income tax and the income tax bulk is from the oil workers whose offices are in Lagos.
The oil and gas component of the Lagos igr is more than 40% of the igr. Income tax paid by high earning oil and gas industry executive who gross average of N5m monthly has helped Lagos


Secondly kano will be the worst hit as the only state whose take home is equivalent to the take home of niger delta states with their 13% derivative.

Kano doesn't have the human capital to generate income tax.

Third state /city is Abuja. It is said that Abuja was built with oil money, where would the money to sustain and maintain Abuja come from if not the same money from niger delta.

Some states like kwara, benue, adamawa can easily with agriculture fight the downturn of their economy, how would sokoto, yobe, jigawa whose populace don't farm and whose land is far from economic centres for export of agricultural products survive.

The next in line are the hausa cities of katsina, batching, kaduna who benefitted from the lopsided federal allocations. Now that the oil wealth is going and there is no human capital we hope they will not turn to insurgency as a means of raising attention and revenue.

The states that would enjoy and be kings in the new dispensation.

Anambra, Nigeria's brain box and commercial hub will have its non oil economy growth unequalled and unrivaled. Anambra survived with no oil allocation managed the little it had and built an enabling environment for investments.

Akwa Ibom, this state was blessed with resources and good managers who used it very well to grow infrastructure and are currently working on a sea port.

Abia this state hosts aba, Nigeria's city of enterprise and football, aba is living beyond oil already.

lol.
I just dey laff all dis core North states with their low human capital.
Abeg Omo Oduduwa pls take over them as ur possession jare.
Those who were sent there to save them in education and industry were slaughtered.
I pity any Southerner or Middlebeltan who will Br deceived by Buharis 500,000 teaching job opportunity.
Guess what?
In 15-20 years time u will loose all as there will be a repeat of what is going on today there because as long as they have Islam it will be a continuous cycle of calm ist and then later violence.

The only time I will ever believe Islam has repented is when within a space of 50years there is no violence within the region where it is practised.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 12:25pm On Dec 30, 2015
kayfra:


We need more middle-income earners than a poor population. So getting rid of not so productive and attracting or keeping the productive is good for the state.

You are not Dubai or London.

Why should rich people come to your village slum city?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 12:29pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:


You are not Dubai or London.

Why should rich people come to your village slum city?


Rich people see the opportunities in the slum while the poor people seek social safety nets. Population powers growth and development, see India as an example with all its slums.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by coolzeal(m): 12:29pm On Dec 30, 2015
This is an educative post.. Questions should be asked and answers should be provided with facts/without sentiment and emotion.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 12:38pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:


You are not Dubai or London.

Why should rich people come to your village slum city?




Geez did u just post this,and i thought u were smart,i guess tribalism just has a way of making one stupid.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 12:40pm On Dec 30, 2015
kayfra:


Rich people see the opportunities in the slum while the poor people seek social safety nets. Population powers growth and development, see India as an example with all its slums.

You don't start a poultry with fully matured chickens - you go for hatchlings or juveniles.

You don't need to attract the rich but ensure the upcoming and hardworking law abiding aspiring young people a conducive and safe Enviroment to work and live peaceful.

Allow genuine business to blossom by getting rid of all the jobless touts who have been constituted as tax officials by the state.

Stop discriminatory attitude to your fellow Nigerians based on tribal hatred and jealousy.

The major nuisances in Lagos are drawn from neighbouring SW states .

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 12:44pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:




Geez did u just post this,and i thought u were smart,i guess tribalism just has a way of making one stupid.


How is it tribalistic to call Lagos a slum city?


I just said Lagos can not compete with cities like London or Dubai which by the way have the highest density of millionaires and billionaires mainly drawn from immigrants.


Why should Chelsea's Abrahomovic relocate from London to Mushin?

As things stand now, more and more rural Nigerians are preferring Abuja and Port Harcourt over Lagos and it all has to do with the everyday harsh realities of working and living in that urban jungle.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 12:47pm On Dec 30, 2015
explorer250:


let me tell you something. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME and i wont start proving my origin to you,it only depicts inferiority and your thoughts about my origin doesnt count because your are INCONSEQUENTIAL. And your rants cant stop ndokis and others from being igbo. Do you know what "OBIGBO" means in english? THE HEART OF IGBO LAND/PEOPLE.
Bro, we are proud and not ashamed of our heritage. The people with the brightest IQ in the continent.
AS I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD YOU(OBIGBO)NDOKIS ARE NOT IJAWS. We are not ijaws we are igbo and are proud of it, carry your expantionist agenda to IBENO.

NB: I HAVE ALSO SEEN/BURSTED PEOPLE OF YOUR KIND, HOW ARE MY SURE YOU ARE NOT YORUBA?
i wounder oooo my spirit is telling me dat guy na pure yoruba man,

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by whatofyou: 12:56pm On Dec 30, 2015
Nigeria still has a long way to go with her crude oil-- if not in the international scene, then we make do with local consumption. Nigeria can be sustained and sustain herself if we play our cards well and strategise about the building of refineries. The rest of the world might be clamoring for clean energy and what-nots but our nation and majority of the countries in Africa will still be making do with the "dirty" energy for some upward of a century from now. Even when we diversify, if we don't learn the language of refinement or processing, we still be reaping peanuts for all our suffering.
Don't cry more than the bereaved yet!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by explorer250(m): 12:56pm On Dec 30, 2015
Goodboiyy:
If you create this thread to mock on Us, then u must be a joker.. Asin am happy the crude is fading away.. atleast East , West And North go let us be.. Wenti na.. una 1 pest us die, #Parasites

cry not for us.. Cry for your poverty unfertile land..

so why dont you show us proof that your land is more fertile than igboland? Or was igbos starving before the advent of Nigeria?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 1:01pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:



How is it tribalistic to call Lagos a slum city?


I just said Lagos can not compete with cities like London or Dubai which by the way have the highest density of millionaires and billionaires mainly drawn from immigrants.


Why should Chelsea's Abrahomovic relocate from London to Mushin?

As things stand now, more and more rural Nigerians are preferring Abuja and Port Harcourt over Lagos and it all has to do with the everyday harsh realities of working and living in that urban jungle.


Save the rants for someone else,your silly self said why would rich people go to lagos and not dubai ignoring the fact that the commercial market in lagos is larger than that of dubia.Only stupid peeps from rural areas would prefer administrative cities(abuja),to commercial cities(lagos).The person you quoted said lagos needs more middle class and rich people than those liabilities that were deported.Admit it!,he/she is right.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by OfoIgbo: 1:01pm On Dec 30, 2015
MrAnalyst:


Thank you for saying "...were used for fishing" cause the waters now are "flowing poison" which is very pitiable. As for the palm-oil let's wait and see

The waters and land can be cleaned up. I will even encourage the governments of Rivers, Bayelsa, Delta, imo, Abia and Akwa Ibom to make such cleanups, a priority before it is too late.

Seaports will be needed at Akwaibom (Ibaka), Abia (Obuaku), Imo (Oguta lake), PH, Ubani, Opobo and Bayelsa.

Presently in the eastern region, the following states are prepared for the post-oil Nigeria... Anambra, Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Abia.
With minor tweaks, the other eastern states will be ready

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 1:03pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:



Save the rants for someone else,your silly self said why would rich people go to lagos and not dubai ignoring the fact that the commercial market in lagos is larger than that of dubia.Only stupid peeps from rural areas would prefer administrative cities(abuja),to commercial cities(lagos).The person you quoted said lagos needs more middle class and rich people than those liabilities that were deported.Admit it!,he/she is right.


You zombie, so how does that mak what I said about Lagos being a slum city tribalistic?
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 1:09pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:


You don't start a poultry with fully matured chickens - you go for hatchlings or juveniles.

You don't need to attract the rich but ensure the upcoming and hardworking law abiding aspiring young people a conducive and safe Enviroment to work and live peaceful.

Allow genuine business to blossom by getting rid of all the jobless touts who have been constituted as tax officials by the state.

Stop discriminatory attitude to your fellow Nigerians based on tribal hatred and jealousy.

The major nuisances in Lagos are drawn from neighbouring SW states .





Lagos is a service based economy or it's positioned to be one so it needs to attract and retain middle-income earners. The low income people can go to cheaper neighboring states and stop constituting a nuisance in a state with high cost of living. For every New York, we have a New Jersey.

I wouldn't know the demographic makeup of the destitutes. I am not a demographer or statistician and I guess neither are you. So stop with the tribalistic BS.

Lagos only needs enough low income people to work in domestic capacity. A floodgate of low income people is undesirable, they compete for resources that are limited and don't contribute anything towards development via taxes or charity.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrEverest(m): 1:11pm On Dec 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

No INCH of Rivers state is Igbo! Get used to it or Go and "you know the rest"


PS: You are NOT from Rivers state. I've seen lots of impostors already!




Bye-byeeeeeeeeeeee grin
You are ignorant, more than half of Rivers State & the whole of Delta North are peopled by Igbos, thank God that the oil politics that was used to decieve some of then is going to die a natural death. They said that Igbos are coveting their brothers in the ND becos of oil but today that oil is fast becoming worthless yet we still show the Ikwerre, Etche, Ndoni, Anioma Igbos same love & fellowship we will show the Ngwa, Owerri, Nssuka, Udi, Mbaise, Ihiala, Obosi, Abakaliki Igbos simply because we are one family. pls cry for your Ijaw nation, the future really looks bleak for you guys, your rivers have turned to brackish waters with all the fishes dead from toxic pollution, the same applies to your land & mangrooves. Nigeria really used & dumped you guys, shame on you!!!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by JANK23H(m): 1:13pm On Dec 30, 2015
Before oil there was oil palm and fishing. More so the ND is also blessed with Gas, in fact more gas than crude.

The ND will also survive.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 1:13pm On Dec 30, 2015
explorer250:


so why dont you show us proof that your land is more fertile than igboland? Or was igbos starving before the advent of Nigeria?



Right now the SS is more developed than the SE.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 1:13pm On Dec 30, 2015
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OfoIgbo:

I hope you are aware that Anambra, Imo and Enugu states have the largest gas reserves in Nigeria
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The largest gas reserves are in the niger delta basins i.e SS,benue,bornu and then anambra.


http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigeria-s-gas-reserves-life-index-stands-at-79-years-says-dpr/215813/

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 1:13pm On Dec 30, 2015
OfoIgbo:


The waters and land can be cleaned up. I will even encourage the governments of Rivers, Bayelsa, Delta, imo, Abia and Akwa Ibom to make such cleanups, a priority before it is too late.

Seaports will be needed at Akwaibom (Ibaka), Abia (Obuaku), Imo (Oguta lake), PH, Ubani, Opobo and Bayelsa.

Presently in the eastern region, the following states are prepared for the post-oil Nigeria... Anambra, Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Abia.
With minor tweaks, the other eastern states will be ready

Noted.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by dandollaz: 1:19pm On Dec 30, 2015
omonnakoda:
Yes we told them that Boko Haram is not about crude oil but the CRIMINAL/ROGUE COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA. Boko Haram are doing wonders ..........
Eboes doing wonders with drugs and baby factories? Cannot build Niger Bridge,cannot solve erosion

Eboes deceiving themselves since 1759
go to Aba or onitsha and do survey,all the boys and men hustle endless in biz to make it.you will surely confess that the igbos are hustlers while ND men and bois are lazy waiting for oyel money.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Tallesty1(m): 1:24pm On Dec 30, 2015
I tell ya.
coolzeal:
This is an educative post.. Questions should be asked and answers should be provided with facts/without sentiment and emotion.
These guys taught me many things today without knowing it.


kayfra, APChangeZombie, MrAnalyst.

I thank Unah.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by explorer250(m): 1:27pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:




Right now the SS is more developed than the SE.

what do you define as development? Is it infrastrucure or standard of living ? Even the most developed part of ss is still igboland.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by OfoIgbo: 1:30pm On Dec 30, 2015
JANK23H:
Before oil there was oil palm and fishing. More so the ND is also blessed with Gas, in fact more gas than crude.

The ND will also survive.

I hope you are aware that Anambra, Imo and Enugu states have the largest gas reserves in Nigeria

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 1:37pm On Dec 30, 2015
kayfra:


Lagos is a service based economy or it's positioned to be one so it needs to attract and retain middle-income earners. The low income people can go to cheaper neighboring states and stop constituting a nuisance in a state with high cost of living. For every New York, we have a New Jersey.

I wouldn't know the demographic makeup of the destitutes. I am not a demographer or statistician and I guess neither are you. So stop with the tribalistic BS.

Lagos only needs enough low income people to work in domestic capacity. A floodgate of low income people is undesirable, they compete for resources that are limited and don't contribute anything towards development via taxes or charity.

And you will later condemn Trump for wanting to build a wall between the US and Mexico
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 1:38pm On Dec 30, 2015
explorer250:


what do you define as development? Is it infrastrucure or standard of living ? Even the most developed part of ss is still igboland.



Infrastructure,but ofcos infrastructure has a direct impact on the standard of living of a people.The most developed parts of ss are;PH (Ikwere,Ijaw and Igbo),CALABAR (Efik) AND UYO(Ibibio).
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by OfoIgbo: 1:38pm On Dec 30, 2015
Also note that in the whole of Nigeria, the two LGAs with the largest oil reserves are the Igbo LGAs of Oyigbo and Ogba-Egbema-Ndoni both in Rivers state.

So basically Igbos are sitting pretty gas-wise and oil-wise

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by omonnakoda: 1:43pm On Dec 30, 2015
dandollaz:

go to Aba or onitsha and do survey,all the boys and men hustle endless in biz to make it.you will surely confess that the igbos are hustlers while ND men and bois are lazy waiting for oyel money.
That is your own perception.You folk alway delude yourselves you are better than everyone else.
Are you more of a hustler than the Fulani who walks from Sokoto to PH with his cows facing hostile humans and beasts on the way? Leave that self indulgent Ibo tale for your village entertainment. Everyone hustles in the way that they have aptitude for. The fact of the matter is the greatest economic activity in Nigeria today more than oil or anything else is agriculture. That is an indisputable fact. Now what do Ibos contribute to agriculture in Nigeria? Instead you continue making empty boasts about how Onitsha market is the largest in the Milky Wayand the US Army buys drones there.

Once again Agriculture accounts for more than 70% of Nigerian economy .What is the Ibo contribution?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by killsmith(f): 1:46pm On Dec 30, 2015
an average ijaw man is completely lazy....they sometimes seldom school and work...agriculture is Almost a no-go area....all they do is sit and wait for rent money.....sell lands etc....they couldn't develop their region during the oil boom....and i dont expect any more than ive seen...every part of bayelsa except yenagoa reeks of utter underdevelopment and poverty.....same as most parts of rivers state....the hardship that's about to befall them is unimaginable....

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by omonnakoda: 1:48pm On Dec 30, 2015
OfoIgbo:
Also note that in the whole of Nigeria, the two LGAs with the largest oil reserves are the Igbo LGAs of Oyigbo and Ogba-Egbema-Ndoni both in Rivers state.

So basically Igbos are sitting pretty gas-wise and oil-wise
Ibos alway boast and make ridiculous claims. Can you provide EVIDENCE for these ridiculous statements?

We also heard that Orji Uzor Kalu is so rich the Nigerian banks begged(yes Begged) him too take his money to the Central Bank who equally begged him to go to the World Bank. You folk really are hilarious. You just wake up and concoct any fanciful nonsense that enters your minds and that becomes your reality.

Where is the data for this oil reserves claim? Is it a secret or inspired by akpu overdose?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 1:49pm On Dec 30, 2015
OfoIgbo:
Also note that in the whole of Nigeria, the two LGAs with the largest oil reserves are the Igbo LGAs of Oyigbo and Ogba-Egbema-Ndoni both in Rivers state.

So basically Igbos are sitting pretty gas-wise and oil-wise

The thread is actually meant as a point of contribution towards post-oil Niger-Delta economy. We know we have oil and gas but here we're looking at life after oil in Niger-Delta.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by signz: 1:50pm On Dec 30, 2015
It's still not yet late. Niger delta states should start agitating for resource control now before oil goes down to $5 per barrel. The NASS members from Niger delta states should start lobbying members from other regions.

The whole money should be used to reclaim the land and rivers that have been polluted and also used to develop other sectors like tourism, maritime, etc.

I know the Niger deltans will survive and thrive in an era of low oil prices.

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