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millionaireman:
@Barca.

There may be more than 40 million Igbos on earth today that no Igbo shall see any sense in making non-Igbos in the south south answer Igbos.

What Igbos struggle for today is to free Igbo land from the clutches of underdevelopment that has plagued Nigeria. The plague has denied the south south and southeast commensurate development vis a vis the amount of mineral resources obtained by Nigeria from these two areas, more so, from your south south areas.

But for Igbo to easily free itself from the plague of one Nigeria, it has to work in concert with the south south areas.

Look closely, the south south is worse hit by the plague of one Nigeria. Many affluent south south people now have to relocate to Abuja owing to environmental degredation. The homeland of the Barcas of south south must be secured with reversal of the environmental degradation. With Nigeria ongoin, that never gonna happen.

Any new nation for the SS and SE is never about Igbos having access to whatever proceeds from the south south resources. After all, it's believed that such a nation shall be governed with fiscal federalism.
You must be aware that the Adamu Ciromas and El-Rufais have been labouring to yank off the 13% paid to mineral reproducing areas. They contend that 13% paid makes some regions richer than the north. It's quite easy to reverse the 13% pay off no matter the Supreme court's earlier decision on it.

One finds it hard to understand why some enlightened people in the south south still want to be victims of the Divide-And-Rule Tactics of Nigerian groups outside the old south east region, a tactic they have used to practically make your living abode, as well as that of the SE nearly uninhabitable from pollution and uncontrolled erosion.

Please stop encouraging division of people in the old south east region. It brings no group in the region any good.

millionaireman:
@Barca. There may be more than 40 million Igbos on earth today that no Igbo shall see any sense in making non-Igbos in the south south answer Igbos.

What Igbos struggle for today is to free Igbo land from the clutches of underdevelopment that has plagued Nigeria. The plague has denied the south south and southeast commensurate development vis a vis the amount of mineral resources obtained by Nigeria from these two areas, more so, from your south south areas.

But for Igbo to easily free itself from the plague of one Nigeria, it has to work in concert with the south south areas.

Look closely, the south south is worse hit by the plague of one Nigeria. Many affluent south south people now have to relocate to Abuja owing to environmental degredation. The homeland of the Barcas of south south must be secured with reversal of the environmental degradation. With Nigeria ongoin, that never gonna happen.

Any new nation for the SS and SE is never about Igbos having access to whatever proceeds from the south south resources. After all, it's believed that such a nation shall be governed with fiscal federalism.
You must be aware that the Adamu Ciromas and El-Rufais have been fr. labouring to yank off the 13% paid to mineral reproducing areas. They contend that 13% paid makes some regions richer than the north. It's quite easy to reverse the 13% pay off no matter the Supreme court's earlier decision on it.

One finds it hard to understand why some enlightened people in the south south still want to be victims of the Divide-And-Rule Tactics of Nigerian groups outside the old south east region, a tactic they have used to practically make your living abode, as well as that of the SE nearly uninhabitable from pollution and uncontrolled erosion.

Please stop encouraging division of people in the old south east region. It brings no group in the region any good.

bigfrancis21:
The Ikwerre might be regarded as a separate ethnicity by the Nigerian constitution that so wished it to be so. By granting the Ikwerres, by virtue of their natural crude oil, the recognition of a separate identity, they court favour with the Ikwerres and vice versa. This newfound relationship was necessary to exert full dominance over their area with little resistance as possible while granting the Ikwerres the 'separate identity' that they craved for. It is a political game.

[b]That the Ikwerres are granted a separate identity by the Nigerian constitution does not mean it would remain so should a new constitution come to place. In recent times I have noticed what seems to be a growing Igbo consciousness amongst these Igbo-denying areas such as Ikwerre, Ika, Ndokwa etc. I have seen some of these people come out in recent times to proclaim they are Igbo. The most likely factor of this being the recent decline in oil prices, the general turnout of the last elections held in 2015 which showed that Nigeria is still evenly divided between North and south, the North-West gang up and SE-SS gang up, and the sad but ultimate realization that they are losing their once robust friendship and favour with the Nigerian government and other Nigerians as Nigeria moves from its sole dependence on crude oil to diversification of its economy. Some have realized that it is only but a game of politics all along and they have only been pawns in the hands of the Nigerian government all along. 2 years back, some scots had agitated to leave the UK, and some wanted to remain in. The outcome seemed to be a tie between both choices until a referendum was held and the majority vote chose to be UK citizens and remain in the UK. Such a referendum could be done in such a situation like this to decide what the majority of the Ikwerre people want to be. Similarly, such referendum could be held for the Southern Nigerian area to decide who wants to be a part of a new country or not.

Like I once mentioned to someone before, state boundaries are only but artificial lines and many people in the country seem to mainly follow the identity of their state. Dissolve Rivers state today, re-assign each tribe to different other states and watch them over the years assume the new identity of their state. The whole game of identity is not as solid as you think.[/b]

TonyeBarcanista:
When engagement is constructive, it gives room for relationship building and set motion for cooperation.

For the record, I'm for the collective unity of the SS and SE(and others), and never against it. The argument however is the issue of IPOB Biafra, their modus operandi and distortion of fact.

You will agree with me that true unity is to be built on mutual understanding and driven by mutual benefit. If the saying is correct, what then is the problem? Do we really have this mutual understanding? Do we really understand what we both stand to gain or lose? How do you explain the fact that a group of people that believed they are distinct are called "Igbos" because they speak the language, and their areas called Igbo territory? Do you think it is appropriate for some group of Igbos to attempt to force or blackmail people to accept IPOB or nothing? Does that promote unity? Does a hate preacher promote unity? I ask again is there any mutual understanding? Should we be at war with other group?

I understand that their are fundamental issues with the Nigeria State, how do we address it? As a SS person, how do I view these fundamental issues and what are my approach? As an Igboman, how do you view it and what are your approach to bring permanent remedy? If we both differ in approach, how do we sit down to brainstorm and come up with a workable plan that is accepted by all without fight? If we do these, won't we build that workable and mutually beneficial relationship?

Everybody have their complain against the system. How can we address them?

Rose2014:
Can u imagine we've bn here arguing with a Yoruba guy about Igbos in SS
How desperate can they be?

Rose2014:
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DiademSh07:
Wetin this one dey talk!
Have you forgotten this is a forum where everyone has opinions? Carry the forum put for head na, come run go Abia like the Obigbos did! Yeye!
If you can't stand the heat, don't stay in the kitchen!

DiademSh07:
SS be your papa land? Why can't I have opinion on the region if Ibo can have theirs?.
Land grabber!

xtropy:
Mister, this is where your input is highly needed for the emancipation of your people if indeed you have something valuable to offer:
https://www.nairaland.com/2684014/yoruba-commonwealth-politics/376#41659163

Rose2014:
Can u imagine we've bn here arguing with a Yoruba guy about Igbos in SS
How desperate can they be?

cheruv:
Biko si ebe a puo!
O doro anya na i jighi okwu...ihe i biara bu ime mkpotu ka anyi hu gi

tonychristopher:
Sometimes I wonder where they created that way or they acquired it

Here in Lagos pokenose of Thiers is too much.. Very loud and noisy

HopeAtHand:
Ezepromoe has said it severally that his mom is from Nnewi in Anambra. And he has been living in Nnewi from childhood.

His years of living in Igboland has probably skewed his senses. He is now a brainwashed Igbotic element.

That is if he is truly a Dieli Ikwerre in the first instance.

HopeAtHand:
I have had this argument with Abagworo and some other Igbos. Ive told them that within the Rivers circle, there is a general consensus that Oyigbo land belongs to Ogoni people, especially Eleme. That anyday they said they want out, they will have to pack their bags and ferry across the Imo river back to Abia.

Rose2014:
And he said he loves his Yoruba tribe like kilode but tell me why he has carefully avoided all Yoruba threads where he can address Yoruba issues and came to perch here since yesterday.

HopeAtHand:
Ezepromoe has said it severally that his mom is from Nnewi in Anambra. And he has been living in Nnewi from childhood.

His years of living in Igboland has probably skewed his senses. He is now a brainwashed Igbotic element.

That is if he is truly a Dieli Ikwerre in the first instance.

bigfrancis21:
The Ikwerre might be regarded as a separate ethnicity by the Nigerian constitution that so wished it to be so. By granting the Ikwerres, by virtue of their natural crude oil, the recognition of a separate identity, they court favour with the Ikwerres and vice versa. This newfound relationship was necessary to exert full dominance over their area with little resistance as possible while granting the Ikwerres the 'separate identity' that they craved for. It is a political game.

That the Ikwerres are granted a separate identity by the Nigerian constitution does not mean it would remain so should a new constitution come to place. In recent times I have noticed what seems to be a growing Igbo consciousness amongst these Igbo-denying areas such as Ikwerre, Ika, Ndokwa etc. I have seen some of these people come out in recent times to proclaim they are Igbo. The most likely factor of this being the recent decline in oil prices, the general turnout of the last elections held in 2015 which showed that Nigeria is still evenly divided between North and south, the North-West gang up and SE-SS gang up, and the sad but ultimate realization that they are losing their once robust friendship and favour with the Nigerian government and other Nigerians as Nigeria moves from its sole dependence on crude oil to diversification of its economy. Some have realized that it is only but a game of politics all along and they have only been pawns in the hands of the Nigerian government all along. 2 years back, some scots had agitated to leave the UK, and some wanted to remain in. The outcome seemed to be a tie between both choices until a referendum was held and the majority vote chose to be UK citizens and remain in the UK. Such a referendum could be done in such a situation like this to decide what the majority of the Ikwerre people want to be. Similarly, such referendum could be held for the Southern Nigerian area to decide who wants to be a part of a new country or not.

Like I once mentioned to someone before, state boundaries are only but artificial lines and many people in the country seem to mainly follow the identity of their state. Dissolve Rivers state today, re-assign each tribe to different other states and watch them over the years assume the new identity of their state. The whole game of identity is not as solid as you think.

DiademSh07:
SS be your papa land? Why can't I have opinion on the region if Ibo can have theirs?.
Land grabber!

EzePromoe:
[color=#DC143C]You really have issues with making factual statements. I've never said anything linking myself to Nnewi. Nnobi I said. You'll be doing Nairalanders a huge favour by sharing links where I said otherwise. I lived in Onitsha not in Nnewi and my stay there was a year and few months. [/color]

EzePromoe:
[color=#DC143C]See what someone who claims to be from Rivers state is saying. Oh maybe it's me that have been ignorant of the fact that Eleme is a town in Oyigbo. I don't have your time now. Let people keep on fooling themselves by believing that you are a Rivers man. It's not my business as long as I'm not fooled.[/color]

Rose2014:
The title of the thread is clear

Rose2014:
Gwazienum ihe Onye si n'odida Anyanwu biara ebe a icho.
Hapu ihe na-eme n'obodo ya bu Kwara bia ebea itinye onu n'okwu agbasaghi ya

Omume ha nkea, o si na chi ka o bu aka mere?

HopeAtHand:
Your mum is an Igbo woman. Simple. Wether Nnobi or Nnewi, she is an Anambra woman and has influenced your sense of reasoning.



Leave trading in the market and join the political circle so you learn something. I wont drag this issue with you since you are just a novice.

Candyrain:
This guy e just be like say you drink gum. But honestly what is your problem and that of others from SW that you can't just stay out of what don't concern you?

If the nuts in your head are all intact you should have noticed by now that those saying there are no Igbos in SS have eaten their word. Can't you do the same, eat the humble pie and bug off? Shuooo! Na by force to align with you ni?

tonychristopher:
That is why I keep asking how these Yoruba people reason...it is so unfortunate


Now when I talk I am banned...now look at how they display their irrationality yet nupe is killing me

Rose2014:
The title of the thread is clear

Truckpusher:
Lol, you came and settled in another man's land and all of a sudden you want to be united to your kith and kin in Abia State ?
Do you know how many miles exist between the next Abia village and Oyibo? Is that why they changed the name to Obigbo too ?
They are clowns - if they want to unite with their folks in Abia state they should pay their transport and go nau. Abi dem wan carry the land ?

madenigga:
I dont hv time arguing with kids whether its dat tonyebarcanista or dat Diadem whatever or the vicadex u can call us whatever u want let it be south'south or Niger delta as far as no boundary in Rivers wud be touched, we are ok the way we are come oil go oil our land is blessed, everybody is welcomed both yorubas both hausas and edos and igbos and akwa ibom.
Igbos in the east u guys shud stop making a mountain where none exists, the same way we treat an Ijaw man from Bayelsa thats the same way we wud treat u, same rights same limits as easy as it is.

DiademSh07:
You are really dull! Where did I infer that there's no ibos in SS?
Heck! There are Yoruba communities in Ugbodu, delta state, not to mention our Itsekiri brothers yet no Yoruba dey die on top SS mata as opposed to you ibos with your constant attache by force!
Abeg free me this early morning!

TonyeBarcanista:
Keep quiet. You are a non Rivers indigen as long as we are concerned. Stop taking our hospitality for granted

TonyeBarcanista:
Keep quiet. You are a non Rivers indigen as long as we are concerned. Stop taking our hospitality for granted

madenigga:
lol... ok.... u can do dz ur mumu argument with ppl who have low self esteem dat wud be arguing mountains with u dat since it started nothing changed.
I am far too above u to start delving into a tribalism fight abt who owns what and who doesnt, Rivers state was created for the igboid tribes and people, instead of u stup1d ijaws to join ur brothers in Bayelsa u guys were too busy salivating over igbo abandoned properties.

iconize:
You're just one overly asinine and elfish chap.

Who are you to decide who's from Rivers and who's not from Rivers?

Concern yourself with your four wards in Rivers, Okrika man. Lool.