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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by absoluteSuccess: 12:10am On Jan 12, 2016
theV0ice:


cheesy cheesy cheesy

You're not nice at all....

Money wey don enter voice mail? cheesy

baba don deliver his party vote to PDP now,

make them undo the election if baba must return the baba ijebu money.

owo baba,
owo baba ijebu,
kosee dapada.

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by RedArrow: 12:12am On Jan 12, 2016
Buy a stolen product and form innocent..

princemillla:


Still, those ground are more solid than rock. Cuz he doesn't av to know the source of the money in question. You bring a deal, I consent to it. We strike deal, that's all.
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by SirShymexx: 12:12am On Jan 12, 2016
Kgdavid:

It's not quite the same. If you steal money and spend it, one can never request a purchase from the seller. One can only ask you to make a refund by all means but the seller is under no obligation to refund you anything.

And the argument chief False makes here is that his group of individuals performed a service for which they were paid. You can't hold them culpable for how the funds for their payment were raised anymore than you could ask the seller of a yahoo boy's hummer to refund the money they received.

It certainly won't hold up in a court of law.

Don't mind them. The illiteracy of a lot of Nigerians is absolutely shocking.

I honestly don't know why they're troubling a third party who rendered a service and was paid for it, when the man who was in-charge of the country when it happened hasn't been questioned. Ditto the finance minister and CBN governor who released the funds.

They don't even have a case in a court of law - all he needs to do is to basically provide evidence of what the money was used and who paid it to him. A decent judge would most likely throw the case out of court.

The whole anti-corruption crap looks like hot-air to higher minds cos it seems these folks are more interested in chasing shadows everywhere.

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by sharpchap: 12:14am On Jan 12, 2016
stealing is a crime. receiving stolen goods is also a crime. the money was from jonathan to him, not from PDP to SDP. it is very disappointing when the ppl you expect to have sense display this type of behaviour. bros find our money and return it to us. those days have passed oooo!

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by antispexish(m): 12:20am On Jan 12, 2016
If these former yoruba leader(as he is no more a leader) had done the right thing at the right time, he would not be in this sh..t.

PDP reached an agreement with your party, yet you collected money from an individual and not the party.
Ojukokoro has mes..d this man up.

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by matrix199(m): 12:21am On Jan 12, 2016
fulanimafia:
Well there's evidently nothing in yours so I'm not surprised by your submission.

Since when did SDP become an auxiliary arm of the PDP? What is the validity of the 'agreement' with regard to our electoral laws?




I thought english was simple to comprehend. Why are you finding the word 'alliance' difficult to understand? What has auxillary gat to do with this?

I made a mistake trying to correct your reasoning error.
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by Nobody: 12:22am On Jan 12, 2016
Ladies and gentlemen, there's no accomplice liability here. As the Chief has rightly reiterated, there was no privity of contract whether in equity or law between SDP and Dasuki; SDP was dealing with PDP and so SDP could claim a substantially reasonable reliance/justification of dealing with a reasonable and responsible party; it is not for SDP to inquire as to the source of PDP'S funds. If there's any dispute, it should fall squarely on the shoulders of PDP as represented by Anini and the former NSA....therefore Baba, Go and sin no more
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by Mishydoo(m): 12:24am On Jan 12, 2016
SirShymexx:


Don't mind them. The illiteracy of a lot of Nigerians is absolutely shocking.

I honestly don't know why they're troubling a third party who rendered a service and was paid for it, when the man who was in-charge of the country when it happened hasn't been questioned. Ditto the finance minister and CBN governor who released the funds.

They don't even have a case in a court of law - all he needs to do is to basically provide evidence of what the money was used and who paid it to him. A decent judge would most likely throw the case out of court.

The whole anti-corruption crap looks like hot-air to higher minds cos it seems these folks are more interested in chasing shadows everywhere.


Dis dude dsnt understand how looted funds are distributed,No one says 'take this is ur share'...they share it with a label/fallacious purpose...He thnks hez talkin to fo.ols....weda it was given under d premise of Intra-Party relations,Pubicity,Campaign,,Purchase of Building or what have u...stolen funds must be returned.

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by fulanimafia: 12:24am On Jan 12, 2016
Of course you clearly lack the capacity to answer my questions so it's quite natural to resort to inanities.

matrix199:


[s]I thought english was simple to comprehend. Why are you finding the word 'alliance' difficult to understand? What has auxillary gat to do with this?

I made a mistake trying to correct your reasoning error.[/s]

fulanimafia:

Since when did SDP become an auxiliary arm of the PDP?

What is the validity of the 'agreement' with regard to our electoral laws?
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by Everfrank(m): 12:35am On Jan 12, 2016
Mishydoo:

Dis dude dsnt understand how looted funds are distributed,No one says 'take this is ur share'...they share it with a label/fallacious purpose...He thnks hez talkin to fo.ols....weda it was given under d premise of Intra-Party relations,Pubicity,Campaign,,Purchase of Building or what have u...stolen funds must be returned.
GogobiriLalas:
Ladies and gentlemen, there's no accomplice liability here. As the Chief has rightly reiterated, there was no privity of contract whether in equity or law between SDP and Dasuki; SDP was dealing with PDP and so SDP could claim a substantially reasonable reliance/justification of dealing with a reasonable and responsible party; it is not for SDP to inquire as to the source of PDP'S funds. If there's any dispute, it should fall squarely on the shoulders of PDP as represented by Anini and the former NSA....therefore Baba, Go and sin no more
https://www.nairaland.com/2855345/dasukigate-olu-falae-lied-never
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by tosyne2much(m): 12:39am On Jan 12, 2016
Tabiola:
hehehehe...the struggle is real..... dont return it jooor,
He shouldn't return it shey? tongue
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by FirstCounsel(m): 12:40am On Jan 12, 2016
raumdeuter:
I didnt steal any yam, It was Dasuki who stole the yam, gave to Anenih who now gave me a small bite

No problem, refund the money back to Anenih.

And Anenih forward to the source. Fight no dey inside
grin

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by SirShymexx: 12:43am On Jan 12, 2016
Mishydoo:


Dis dude dsnt understand how looted funds are distributed,No one says 'take this is ur share'...they share it with a label/fallacious purpose...He thnks hez talkin to fo.ols....weda it was given under d premise of Intra-Party relations,Pubicity,Campaign,,Purchase of Building or what have u...stolen funds must be returned.

What's the correlation between how looted funds are distributed and a third party who rendered a service to a group it formed a pact with? SDP has a pact with PDP, not Dansuki. And the man was paid for electioneering on behalf of PDP, by a PDP Chieftain, not Dansuki. So why're they troubling him? Yes, he can be questioned but that's where it ends.

Since you sound like someone who most likely listens to hip-hop...I'll use hip-hop analogy to buttress my point. Prior to Supreme going down for murder and laundering, Nas formed an alliance with Murder Inc., and he was paid by Irv Gotti for a few records. Then when Supreme went down, Murder Inc. also went down cos the feds/FBI believed Murder Inc. was used by Supreme to launder money. That led to Irv Gotti's arrest. But during the whole shebang - Nas was never arrested (I don't even think he was questioned). Ditto Ja Rule and Ashanti who were signed to Murder Inc.. Once you can understand what happened here, you'll know why he has no case in a court of law.

You lot can cry from now till the end of time - but he isn't complicit in anything. It's between Dansuki and PDP. They need to let the old man be.

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by Nobody: 1:14am On Jan 12, 2016
Everfrank:


https://www.nairaland.com/2855345/dasukigate-olu-falae-lied-never
Goes to show that you cannot legislate morals and intentions are always open to speculation; do not get it wrong, of course I realize how the game is played; the Law however is an ass and those who know how to ride it, will enjoy the benefits thereof; the Chief is not a fool, he has covered his tracks very well, you cannot level any allegations against him by Law. Until our so called leaders become more idealistic and sincere of purpose, Democrazy remains a veritable treasure bubble open to all adventurers and dregs of society to feast at will...corruption is rife, kleptomania runs amok, Buhari may impede its eventual conquest, yet its victory is certain...let the Mekunus and Talakawas pray for crumbs from the sumptuous feast....enjoy
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by mbz101(m): 1:26am On Jan 12, 2016
All this old men sef .. They always pretend they are not thief .. If young ones try 1/3 of their game him go hear different name him papa dey bear .

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by alphaking(m): 1:45am On Jan 12, 2016
fulanimafia:
Papa respect your age and do the needful.

Mopol should be sent to guard him before we hear the N100 Million has miraculously disappeared with some PDP herdsmen.

#WeMustKillCorruption
It is just common sense why should return the money after doing the job for which the party was paid for.
Is collecting money for alliances a crime
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by Tushed: 1:59am On Jan 12, 2016
It's a pity

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by GenOrumov: 2:26am On Jan 12, 2016
BlackPeni5:


You give stupidity new meaning with this justification.
I wanted to show you the good in what that guy said but after reading the text in red, i decided to rest my words.

Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by InvertedHammer: 3:04am On Jan 12, 2016
theV0ice:


Exactly my point. He must have consulted with his lawyers and they would have assured him he's on some sort of solid ground.
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The points are somewhat valid.

The problem is that when e set na im face go collect better slap no be the lawyers'. Baba sef carry style get half-pass six eye
when dem nefa slap am. And upon say baba dey collect slap, lawyers go dey behind still dey throway grammar.

Like this NIMASA goat EFCC grabbed outside court, im lawyers no fit do squat upon all the rug for head, gragra and grammar



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsRyPGuwRUM

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by fascowilly(m): 3:14am On Jan 12, 2016
jejemanito:
ehen then he should give the money back to Anenih who will give it to Dasuki who then will hand it over to EFCC

Wetin hard for there?
the service render to pdp by sdp nko? the money is gone.
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by fascowilly(m): 3:18am On Jan 12, 2016
antispexish:
If these former yoruba leader(as he is no more a leader) had done the right thing at the right time, he would not be in this sh..t.

PDP reached an agreement with your party, yet you collected money from an individual and not the party.
Ojukokoro has mes..d this man up.
fro party national chairnan, read it again.
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by fascowilly(m): 3:20am On Jan 12, 2016
antispexish:
If these former yoruba leader(as he is no more a leader) had done the right thing at the right time, he would not be in this sh..t.

PDP reached an agreement with your party, yet you collected money from an individual and not the party.
Ojukokoro has mes..d this man up.
from party national chairman, read it again
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by awoluyi(m): 3:41am On Jan 12, 2016
I am surprised that my once respected chief says he will not refund N100million traced to him. His point looks like a thief saying is not giong to surrender a stolen car in his possession because he never knew the vehicle was stolen. His children and friends should raise the money, make a refund before efcc boys mess him up. Let's avoid pre-mature death!

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by Nobody: 4:24am On Jan 12, 2016
raumdeuter:


Technically he has a point. So EFCC has to drag Anenih to refund the money Dasuki gave him.

If Anenih likes he can reach out to Falae to refund his part, Otherwise Anenih can pay it from his pocket

Its 100M we need whether its coming from Falae or from Anenih

I understand what you guys are saying and your position but we need to go further than that.

For this corruption fight to be successful we have to be ruthless in the pursuit of collection.

Over here there is a legal crime of accessory and another one a felony called receipt of stolen property.

I'll wager that the Attorney General of The Federation can bring a criminal suit against this character for receiving stolen property. Please note that there is no defense to this charge of "I didn't know it was stolen". The fact that the prosecution can prove that you received the money (which he has agreed that he received) means that you are guilty.

Further more, every single entity that was involved in the transaction or transfer of money between Nigerian government and this character is equally guilty of accessory to receiving stolen property.

There are a lot of unemployed Nigerians, let's setup a privately owned prison system.

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by NovusHomo(m): 4:33am On Jan 12, 2016
theV0ice:


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/i-wont-return-n100-million-says-chief-falae/

CHOP MY MONEY!

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by Keegan: 4:40am On Jan 12, 2016
StOla:



Your argument is not totally wrong except that even you agree the last holder of the car actually paid money for it without knowing it was stolen.

He has no business with you, and the car had nothing to suggest that it is a stolen car because the seller is a reputable car dealership.

Now you show up and prove it is your car. What happens to the money he paid for the car? Can he be prosecuted for buying a car from a registered car dealership?

What happens to the "support" Falae's party gave PDP in the SouthWest? Can he be prosecuted for collecting money from a known PDP chieftain who never said the money was embezzled arms funds.

If he returns the car to you, who returns his money?

If Falae returns the money, can the support already given be undone?

The matter falls back to the car dealer who chose to sell the last holder a stolen car instead of the other cars in his showroom. He must give the last car holder another car for money paid, before that one returns the stolen car for onward delivery to you.

Anenih must find another money of equal amount to give to Falae's SDP for support duly rendered as per inter party agreement, before Falae can return the blood money his party was initially given, for onward return to the government purse.

Falae knows that he has no case to answer. Infact, all who got monies from PDP party chieftains have no case to answer. Let the chieftains like Anenih and Dokpesi source for the funds because they got theirs directly from Dasuki, knowing fully well that Dasuki is not PDP's treasurer or presidential campaign chairman.

Yeah you nailed it. This is the most sensible comment of all.
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by Keegan: 4:51am On Jan 12, 2016
Leke001:
honestly I like the idea of the so called "fighting corruption"...but please,I ask those who're being fanatical over this issues to tell me if APC funded their electioneering with their salaries...if the blind lead the blind,they'll both end up in the ditch...no politician is worth it.

No one is questioning pdp on election funding, why are you mixing it up? Fact is always fact but you can feign ignorance as much as you want. Everyone knows the investigation is about misappropriation of arms deal fund.

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by onunwa21(m): 4:52am On Jan 12, 2016
johnmartus:
EFCC SHOULD ARREST THIS USELESS OLD MAN IF HE SPEND THREE DAYS IN PRISON NOBDY WILL URGE HIM TO RETURN THE MONEY.

Respect ur elders 4 ur days to be long
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by oloworulz(m): 4:56am On Jan 12, 2016
I swear , he no go better for this Jonathan and his supporters. Thunder fire anybody that supports that bastard and it's administration.
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by tsdarkside(m): 4:58am On Jan 12, 2016
he will not return kini..??..

look odasity....thief fey have mouth too....only in democracy...

corruption is human-nature..i even heard that,the chinese-goverment institutions are very corrupt too....
Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by babafirst(m): 5:30am On Jan 12, 2016
fulanimafia:


Yeah there's some merit to his argument, but we need to hear Anenih's defence as well based on his bold statement that Anenih should fry alone.
He has a point actually.That was the stupid ,greedy mistake Dokpesi made by collecting money directly from NSA.Because Dokpesi did not want to remit 25 percent roger to the hawks in PDP office including master yam eater FFK he decided to collect directly from Dasuks.The solution:Our money must be returned,anyhow,soooooo for PDP to convince Nigerians of it's integrity they must enter into the PDP coffers to repay any money collected on behalf of PDP from Dasuks.Additionally,that 100 million as far as I 'yam' concerned is bribe money for Falae's party not any stupid alliance money so to protect the integrity of his party, Falae should return the money and sue PDP for his alliance money.

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Re: I Won’t Return N100 Million, Says Chief Falae by babafirst(m): 5:31am On Jan 12, 2016
fulanimafia:


Yeah there's some merit to his argument, but we need to hear Anenih's defence as well based on his bold statement that Anenih should fry alone.
He has a point actually.That was the stupid ,greedy mistake Dokpesi made by collecting money directly from NSA.Because Dokpesi did not want to remit 25 percent roger to the hawks in PDP office including master yam eater FFK he decided to collect directly from Dasuks.The solution:Our money must be returned,anyhow,soooooo for PDP to convince Nigerians of it's integrity they must enter into the PDP coffers to repay any money collected on behalf of PDP from Dasuks.In the alternative,that 100 million as far as I 'yam' concerned is bribe money for Falae's party not any stupid alliance money so to protect the integrity of his party, Falae should return the money and sue PDP for his alliance money.

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