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Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Osakah24(m): 2:47pm On Jan 16, 2016
LesbianBoy:

Why call Gej your hero Stingy boy angry lets share jor.....OUR HERO! grin grin
abeg I wan join una na,Our Hero
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jan 16, 2016
No wonder! U're so on point!
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by LordAdam: 2:52pm On Jan 16, 2016
naijadeyhia:



Since u want us to act and reason like adults..let me ask you a very simple low IQ adult question, " Did GEJ pass through the right channels when demanding for the release of monies to the former NSA?

If not that CBN applied wisdom by retaining a copy of the purported note from the Presidency which asked them to release monies to the NSA would you and I have known about all this?

A simple adult and intelligent answer is all I need pls.

Please guy, answer my question. I use whatever you worship take beg you! No mention me again unless you have an answer to the question.

To your question. I suppose he didn't, in the sense that it should have been appropriated by the National Assembly.

But look at it this way. Before the returned Abacha loot came in, a committee was set up to discuss which sector best deserved the money, and defense was chosen. Where the senate stands in all of this is not something I am privy to.

About the other remaining part of the $2.1b, there are conflicting stories as to if it is all of the money appropriated to Dasuki from when he was appointed to when he was removed, or if it was a one-time payment. That aside, the outrage is not that Jonathan gave money to Dasuki to fight the war without following due process. The outrage is that Dasuki used the money for something else.

Can you understand that?

I never for once have said that all actions taken by GEJ followed due process. It is understandable to make errors once in a while (unlike with PMB, where his supporters believe he can do no wrong). However, what we are debating is what the money was used for. The real question is if GEJ asked Dasuki to share the money frivolously. For example, did GEJ ask Dasuki to give a now APC chieftain N100m to buy a house (which has since been returned)? Those are the kind of questions you should ask.

That is why I am maintaining that you cannot blame GEJ for the recklessness of Dasuki.

Do you get me?

-Lord
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Ibro2005: 2:54pm On Jan 16, 2016
[quote author=mbhs139 post=42023035]Si
r, for whatever it is you may have achieved as the President of this country,all the revelations from this Arms Deal is going to rubbish it if you don't come out to explain your role in all these. Giving the number of collateral damages done to our military, you need to speak up sir.


This is not his real account... so stop westing ur time, replying, liking or sharing.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by LordAdam: 2:56pm On Jan 16, 2016
Appareil:
Merci beaucoup frère!

Oga, u be suffer me small sha. But no lele, Google Translate don rescue me.

Thanks mate.

All the best.

-Lord
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by akigbemaru: 2:58pm On Jan 16, 2016
Jonathan quote.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jan 16, 2016
GEJ ur head dey there, brain na brain dem nor dey buy am for market. Can the Dullard of Daura think and put such memorable words together.

Some brain dead kids of a Buhari will keep shouting dasuki n arms. They forget that buhari has not bought a bullet since he took over via ballot coup.

Out of 400billion less than 10billion was used as security vote bt d gullible m.orons keep chasing shadows. Brain dead generation.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jan 16, 2016
LordAdam:


Please guy, answer my question. I use whatever you worship take beg you! No mention me again unless you have an answer to the question.

To your question. I suppose he didn't, in the sense that it should have been appropriated by the National Assembly.

But look at it this way. Before the returned Abacha loot came in, a committee was set up to discuss which sector best deserved the money, and defense was chosen. Where the senate stands in all of this is not something I am privy to.

About the other remaining part of the $2.1b, there are conflicting stories as to if it is all of the money appropriated to Dasuki from when he was appointed to when he was removed, or if it was a one-time payment. That aside, the outrage is not that Jonathan gave money to Dasuki to fight the war without following due process. The outrage is that Dasuki used the money for something else.

Can you understand that?

I never for once have said that all actions taken by GEJ followed due process. It is understandable to make errors once in a while (unlike with PMB, where his supporters believe he can do no wrong). However, what we are debating is what the money was used for. The real question is if GEJ asked Dasuki to share the money frivolously. For example, did GEJ ask Dasuki to give a now APC chieftain N100m to buy a house (which has since been returned)? Those are the kind of questions you should ask.

That is why I am maintaining that you cannot blame GEJ for the recklessness of Dasuki.

Do you get me?

-Lord


The principle behind your argument is flawed. If you say GEJ cannot be blamed but the monetary agencies and yet these monetary agencies still did or said nothing, under whose authority do these monetary agencies reside and whom are they answerable to? Is it still not the same Federal government whose head was Jonathan? There is absolutely no way you can untangle Jonathan from this mess. The only way Jonathan has found to escape is what master criminals tell fellow criminals, " if caught, deny deny deny"!!
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Forwetinnah: 3:05pm On Jan 16, 2016
LordAdam:




I have one question for two of you. Should PMB be blamed for Fayemi budgeting N800m to renovate website?

Dasuki received money to prosecute a war and he shared it frivolously, and you want to blame GEJ. Should we also blame GEJ for the N1t that got lost under Lamorde's EFCC?

The thunder when go strike una for this hypocrisy dey receive combined instruction from Zeus, Sango and Amadioha!

-Lord

I don dey shout am tay tay. ..when boooooohari is done with Nigeria, we'll have to line up these sycophants and stone them to death. The rate of corruption going on now is unprecedented!! We have 2 budgets. .the one for public consumption and the actual outrageous budget for implementation. If one begins to total all the scam we've witnessed so far...it has gone way beyond 21.5 billion in less than a year and these stooges are here hyperventilating over GEJ. Make dem dey there make boooooohari and his 40 thieves dey entertain them.

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Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by danladi2x(m): 3:06pm On Jan 16, 2016
EdCure
Respect is not demanded. Respect is earned.

The likes of GEJ can only demand respect from gullible plonkers like you
Tell him on!
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by glossy6(f): 3:06pm On Jan 16, 2016
I won't wear shoes for him to look down on. I rather grow taller for him to look up to. Am not a hater.

But come o. Are you sure they did not clone his fb page?
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by LordAdam: 3:08pm On Jan 16, 2016
naijadeyhia:



Now let me answer ur own question. PMB would be blamed if he did not pass through the relevant financial agencies or ministries to demand for and ensure release of such funds. You need to realise that the reason Jonathan is being mentioned over and over again and not the auditing financial agencies is because he did not pass through them. He sent the former NSA directly to the cbn. Now do you understand?

No, you have not answered my question. As Fayemi don budget N800m to renovate website, who we go blame? Fayemi when make the budget or PMB when appoint am?

No Jonathan is not been mentioned "over and over again" because he did not follow due process. That is just one side of the story. All the curses and vituperations against him are because Dasuki diverted funds that was meant to fight the war and led to loss of military and civilian loss of life.

And I am saying this part should not be blamed on GEJ but on Dasuki. That is why I asked the PMB and Fayemi instance.

If you are saying your reason for hating on GEJ is that he did not follow due process, please did PMB follow due process with the submission of the edited National Budget? And both these instances do not have the same gravity. GEJ sent Dasuki to the CBN (the people that were always going to release the money, the Minister of Finance signed off, in fact neither Sanusi nor Emefiele objected, unlike them). PMB used his special assistant to doctor the budget in an hotel and resubmit an edited budget, while maintaining through his aides that he does not have an idea about what the missing budget, where is that done?

PMB brazenly insults us, the constitution, and the citizens, and gets away with it.

Let me ask you, is it because it is Buhari?

-Lord

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Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Forwetinnah: 3:08pm On Jan 16, 2016
LordAdam:


Please guy, answer my question. I use whatever you worship take beg you! No mention me again unless you have an answer to the question.

To your question. I suppose he didn't, in the sense that it should have been appropriated by the National Assembly.

But look at it this way. Before the returned Abacha loot came in, a committee was set up to discuss which sector best deserved the money, and defense was chosen. Where the senate stands in all of this is not something I am privy to.

About the other remaining part of the $2.1b, there are conflicting stories as to if it is all of the money appropriated to Dasuki from when he was appointed to when he was removed, or if it was a one-time payment. That aside, the outrage is not that Jonathan gave money to Dasuki to fight the war without following due process. The outrage is that Dasuki used the money for something else.

Can you understand that?

I never for once have said that all actions taken by GEJ followed due process. It is understandable to make errors once in a while (unlike with PMB, where his supporters believe he can do no wrong). However, what we are debating is what the money was used for. The real question is if GEJ asked Dasuki to share the money frivolously. For example, did GEJ ask Dasuki to give a now APC chieftain N100m to buy a house (which has since been returned)? Those are the kind of questions you should ask.

That is why I am maintaining that you cannot blame GEJ for the recklessness of Dasuki.

Do you get me?

-Lord


Thank you!!

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Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Forwetinnah: 3:14pm On Jan 16, 2016
naijadeyhia:



The principle behind your argument is flawed. If you say GEJ cannot be blamed but the monetary agencies and yet these monetary agencies still did or said nothing, under whose authority do these monetary agencies reside and whom are they answerable to? Is it still not the same Federal government whose head was Jonathan? There is absolutely no way you can untangle Jonathan from this mess. The only way Jonathan has found to escape is what master criminals tell fellow criminals, " if caught, deny deny deny"!!


Who have you blamed for the outrageous budget boooooohari presented to NASS? Ita Enang?! Hypocrisy! Your initial noise was that GEJ instructed Dasuki to use the money for campaign...now that there's no proof anywhere that GEJ authorised such and the PDP has come out to say they had a fund raiser strictly for their campaigns/elections..you dolts have come up with another story. You will all get tired and wear yourselves out, if you want Jona 's arrest...go and get him

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Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by ChikezieU(m): 3:15pm On Jan 16, 2016
mbhs139:
You know, I just marveled at the people deifying GEJ, particularly those that are saying he should remain silent and not speak on the arms deal scandal. Like I stated earlier, this Arms Deal issue alone is enough to rubbish whatever he may lay claim to as his achievements as a former president of this nation. He should just clear the air once and for all. Perhaps I'm too hasty.
no sir he doesnt need to not now.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by LordAdam: 3:17pm On Jan 16, 2016
naijadeyhia:



The principle behind your argument is flawed. If you say GEJ cannot be blamed but the monetary agencies and yet these monetary agencies still did or said nothing, under whose authority do these monetary agencies reside and whom are they answerable to? Is it still not the same Federal government whose head was Jonathan? There is absolutely no way you can untangle Jonathan from this mess. The only way Jonathan has found to escape is what master criminals tell fellow criminals, " if caught, deny deny deny"!!

You are just chasing your tail. These agencies are independent agencies. That they answer to the president does not mean that they are the personal tools of the president. Can you understand that? Jonathan is not OBJ that used supposed independent agencies to pursue his political enemies all the time.

Case in point, look at INEC.

Is it PMB that is prosecuting Dasuki? Is it not EFCC under PMB.

As I have said repeatedly, GEJ has nothing to answer about this issue. Even Magu has cleared his name. It is only haters like you that are still chasing shadows and displaying your brazen hate for the top-performing civilian government in the history of this country.

Moreover, you did not answer my question.

-Lord

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Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by ChikezieU(m): 3:17pm On Jan 16, 2016
Forwetinnah:



Who have you blamed for the outrageous budget boooooohari presented to NASS? Ita Enang?! Hypocrisy! Your initial noise was that GEJ instructed Dasuki to use the money for campaign...now that there's no proof anywhere that GEJ authorised such and the PDP has come out to say they had a fund raiser strictly for their campaigns/elections..you dolts have come up with another story. You will all get tired and wear yourselves out, if you want Jona 's arrest...go and get him
simple
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jan 16, 2016
LordAdam:


No, you have not answered my question. As Fayemi don budget N800m to renovate website, who we go blame? Fayemi when make the budget or PMB when appoint am?

No Jonathan is not been mentioned "over and over again" because he did not follow due process. That is just one side of the story. All the curses and vituperations against him are because Dasuki diverted funds that was meant to fight the war and led to loss of military and civilian loss of life.

And I am saying this part should not be blamed on GEJ but on Dasuki. That is why I asked the PMB and Fayemi instance.

If you are saying your reason for hating on GEJ is that he did not follow due process, please did PMB follow due process with the submission of the edited National Budget? And both these instances do not have the same gravity. GEJ sent Dasuki to the CBN (the people that were always going to release the money, the Minister of Finance signed off, in fact neither Sanusi nor Emefiele objected, unlike them). PMB used his special assistant to doctor the budget in an hotel and resubmit an edited budget, while maintaining through his aides that he does not have an idea about what the missing budget, where is that done?

PMB brazenly insults us, the constitution, and the citizens, and gets away with it.

Let me ask you, is it because it is Buhari?

-Lord


You keep shooting yourself in the foot with this flawed argument. Let me break it down...

1) How did Dasuki and Jonathan arrive at the amount required for the equipment procurement needed to fight insurgency?

2) Were such figures confirmed as true? If yes why not pass him on to the relevant agency or monetary body to follow up? Why use the story of "we need this done quickly" to push him straight to the cbn? If this act by GEJ was done bypassing the relevant monetary bodies and successfully executed how many more have been done without being exposed or would have been done if he had been allowed ro return as President?

3) PMB is not a minion and cannot doctor the budget as obviously some persons in the national assembly meant to cause mischief with the budget. He submitted the budget openely and I believe that if he withdrew it before it was passed then he cannot be faulted. The amendments done have been shown to all so no secrecy and if you have proof that his aide doctored it kindly provide it and stop being a ninnyhammer.

I can deduce from your comments that its not about the truth for you... its about your unbridled hatred and rage towards PMB... more grease to your hatred!
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by helsinski(m): 3:25pm On Jan 16, 2016
Hitback2back:
Chai!!! School good, book good, knowledge good, wisdom good!!!

If you lack all of these you are a total mess.

As far as am concern even his enemies and haters will wish they had made this quotes....

School good ooooooooooooooo
Do you need to go to school before you can churn out quotes? Aren't you schooling or probably done yet how many quotes have you to your name?
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by nightmile: 3:27pm On Jan 16, 2016
masterpower:

Far better than your brain dead Mbuhari your president, who instead of making N1=$1 as he promised has made $1=N310.
You aPC supporters are all sick, shameless and brain dead like Mbuhari your chibok president.

From Bro j's performance and how he was so clueless that he was not aware of all the atrocities that happened under him. By the time he reaches Buhari's age he would be licking catarrh from his nose.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jan 16, 2016
nightmile:


From Bro j's performance and how he was so clueless that he was not aware of all the atrocities that happened under him. By the time he reaches Buhari's age he would be licking catarrh from his nose.


Abi? PMB has come in and is even helping him to clean up the mess he created and people are still hailing the all clueless one.
How can any right thinking Nigerian believe jonathan was not aware of these monumental fraud cases that went on right under his big nose?

He seems to have forgotten that he used the now famous "America will know" quote so if America would know about missing money in Nigeria our c in c wouldnt when such monies always need the authorisation of the cbn to either come in or go out.

The level the mindsets of Nigerians have been warped over time due to misrule is appalling.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by big7: 3:34pm On Jan 16, 2016
Topeakintola:
Lalasticlala front page

Even ibos are now complaining

Aye Jona ti baje lolzzzz


A beg talk for yourself...hypocrisy
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by LordAdam: 3:37pm On Jan 16, 2016
naijadeyhia:



You keep shooting yourself in the foot with this flawed argument. Let me break it down...

1) How did Dasuki and Jonathan arrive at the amount required for the equipment procurement needed to fight insurgency?

2) Were such figures confirmed as true? If yes why not pass him on to the relevant agency or monetary body to follow up? Why use the story of "we need this done quickly" to push him straight to the cbn? If this act by GEJ was done bypassing the relevant monetary bodies and successfully executed how many more have been done without being exposed or would have been done if he had been allowed ro return as President?

3) PMB is not a minion and cannot doctor the budget as obviously some persons in the national assembly meant to cause mischief with the budget. He submitted the budget openely and I believe that if he withdrew it before it was passed then he cannot be faulted. The amendments done have been shown to all so no secrecy and if you have proof that his aide doctored it kindly provide it and stop being a ninnyhammer.

I can deduce from your comments that its not about the truth for you... its about your unbridled hatred and rage towards PMB... more grease to your hatred!

Guy na my last reply to you be this as you no one answer my question.

1. No amount of money is too much for our brave men of the Nigerian military. Nigeria's military is a joke compared to that of other countries of similar size. If that money was judiciously used, we would not be having this conversation.

2. We were losing vast territories to BH, so pardon me for not siding with you to note that the urgency of sending needed money to the military to prosecute the war. He did not bypass relevant monetary agencies, the issue is that he bypassed the National Assembly. Do you want to become a prophet now? Are we going to start judging people by the actions they never took? Hear yourself...

3. Na here me really tire for you. Are your living under a rock. So you have not been reading the news. Including where Saraki said Senator Ita Enang, Special Assistant to the President on Senate matters submitted a budget that was different from what PMB submitted?

As I said, I am done responding to you. For two reasons:

A. I gave you many chances to answer a simple question, and you refused to.
B. You are dancing in circles.

-Lord
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Nobody: 3:39pm On Jan 16, 2016
LordAdam:


You are just chasing your tail. These agencies are independent agencies. That they answer to the president does not mean that they are the personal tools of the president. Can you understand that? Jonathan is not OBJ that used supposed independent agencies to pursue his political enemies all the time.

Case in point, look at INEC.

Is it PMB that is prosecuting Dasuki? Is it not EFCC under PMB.

As I have said repeatedly, GEJ has nothing to answer about this issue. Even Magu has cleared his name. It is only haters like you that are still chasing shadows and displaying your brazen hate for the top-performing civilian government in the history of this country.

Moreover, you did not answer my question.

-Lord


So what your supposedly brilliant mind can deduce from the prosecution of dasuki by PMB led government is that it is witch hunting because Jonathan did not do it?

You shock me.

So is PMB wrong with the action he is taking? Or is Jonathan wrong for not taking any action?
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Nobody: 3:44pm On Jan 16, 2016
LordAdam:


Guy na my last reply to you be this as you no one answer my question.

1. No amount of money is too much for our brave men of the Nigerian military. Nigeria's military is a joke compared to that of other countries of similar size. If that money was judiciously used, we would not be having this conversation.

2. We were losing vast territories to BH, so pardon me for not siding with you to note that the urgency of sending needed money to the military to prosecute the war. He did not bypass relevant monetary agencies, the issue is that he bypassed the National Assembly. Do you want to become a prophet now? Are we going to start judging people by the actions they never took? Hear yourself...

3. Na here me really tire for you. Are your living under a rock. So you have not been reading the news. Including where Saraki said Senator Ita Enang, Special Assistant to the President on Senate matters submitted a budget that was different from what PMB submitted?

As I said, I am done responding to you. For two reasons:

A. I gave you many chances to answer a simple question, and you refused to.
B. You are dancing in circles.

-Lord

So I should respond to your question because it would supposedly give me a eureka moment? Park your brain for one side because it has nada to offer.

You are reasoning from a mind stained with rage towards PMB so cannot see anything good in whatever he does so you deserve no answer from me.

Since you feel Jonathan is not to blame and I say he is... then to each his own.

Ce la vie!
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by amaechi1: 3:46pm On Jan 16, 2016
I have heard this words before now. So, nothing fantastic. The only thing that will fascinate me if you would come out and clear your name in this arm saga.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by InvertedHammer: 3:50pm On Jan 16, 2016
joseph1832:
Oga Jona, if you had been saying all this quotes when you were president, Nigerians wouldn't have referred to you as 'clueless'.

/
Do you really believe that GEJ would be sober enough to make such a quote? What is the work of personal assistants?

/
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Amtruelovecom: 3:51pm On Jan 16, 2016
Topeakintola:


If you like, you can shiit in your pant.

I write it the way I pronounce it- Ibos!!

Please what is the meaning of Ofe Mmanu or Yolobar?

Hypocrite

It's written as IGBO and pronounced as IGBO , not IBO.

ofe-mmanu means " oil soup"
Yolobar has no meaning

Na una start am
if you peeps didn't start to call us IBOS and Igbo, we wouldn't call u people ofe-mmanu and Yolobar.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by blezynetym(f): 3:53pm On Jan 16, 2016
The best president in Africa. Let them say what they like. Silence is the best answer to a fool. My Legend 4life
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by ibnsurakat02: 3:53pm On Jan 16, 2016
wat we want is to clere ursef on dis
mes not to give us words dat don't av meaning.
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Topeakintola: 3:55pm On Jan 16, 2016
Amtruelovecom:


It's written as IGBO and pronounced as IGBO , not IBO.

ofe-mmanu means " oil soup"
Yolobar has no meaning

Na una start am
if you peeps didn't start to call us IBOS and Igbo, we wouldn't call u people ofe-mmanu and Yolobar.




To that mod that banned "freekiss" till 18th, na Amadioha go visit you.
Onye Ara !

Mynd44 rule 19 and 20 violated
Re: Jonathan Latest Message On Facebook And People's Reactions by Modalem: 3:57pm On Jan 16, 2016
my HERO AND AFRICA

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