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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by BlackAlbino6(m): 4:36pm On Jan 15, 2016
John Owoeri Explains Why He Signed For BK Hacken

John Owoeri has explained his rationale for signing a contract with BK Hacken ahead of the new Allsvenskan season.

The attacker represented Atvidaberg last term and has pointed out that he noticed that BK Hacken played some eye-catching football when the two clubs faced each other.

“When I played in Atvidaberg I loved to see Hacken play matches because they played good football. Their style suits me . That’s why I chose them, ” Owoeri told Göteborgs-Posten.

“Yes, Hacken is a very good team who play like Manchester United . From Hacken you can become a better and better player. I think it is good for me .”

Owoeri, who celebrated his 29th birthday on January 13, will have to wait until February 20 before making his competitive debut for BK Hacken.
www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=17559

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:11pm On Jan 15, 2016
Icon4s:


The other Forwards in that team although they were mostly played as wingers/Supporting strikers were:
Funsho Bangboye, Udochukwu Anumudu, Christian Ebere, Sunday Alimi and Orji Okonkwo.

My point is Amunike knew the type of players he had and he believed in them to get the job done. I am sure we have kids just as good as Osimhen but Amunike stuck with his man and that gave him immense confidence.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Nobody: 8:46pm On Jan 15, 2016
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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 9:28pm On Jan 15, 2016
BlackAlbino6:
John Owoeri Explains Why He Signed For BK Hacken

John Owoeri has explained his rationale for signing a contract with BK Hacken ahead of the new Allsvenskan season.

The attacker represented Atvidaberg last term and has pointed out that he noticed that BK Hacken played some eye-catching football when the two clubs faced each other.

“When I played in Atvidaberg I loved to see Hacken play matches because they played good football. Their style suits me . That’s why I chose them, ” Owoeri told Göteborgs-Posten.

“Yes, Hacken is a very good team who play like Manchester United . From Hacken you can become a better and better player. I think it is good for me .”

Owoeri, who celebrated his 29th birthday on January 13, will have to wait until February 20 before making his competitive debut for BK Hacken.
www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=17559

Another member of the U20 class of 2005.
They let themselves and Nigeria down. They are nt even up to 30yrs and have all fizzled out. D likes of Taiye Taiwo, Onyekachi Apam, Dele Adeleye, Obinna Nsofor, Chinedu Ogbuke, Solomon Okoronkwo, Isaac Promise, Monday James all showed promises bt.... where are they today?Their only stand out player is Mikel Obi.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by tbaba1234: 6:49am On Jan 16, 2016
Icon4s:


Another member of the U20 class of 2005.
They let themselves and Nigeria down. They are nt even up to 30yrs and have all fizzled out. D likes of Taiye Taiwo, Onyekachi Apam, Dele Adeleye, Obinna Nsofor, Chinedu Ogbuke, Solomon Okoronkwo, Isaac Promise, Monday James all showed promises bt.... where are they today?Their only stand out player is Mikel Obi.

Many were not truly under 20. It is not surprising that they fade by their late 20.

Taye Taiwo and Ogbuke had decent careers though. Isaac Promise has played decently in Turkey for a long time. Apam was constantly injured.

Nsofor was not at the world cup

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 7:00am On Jan 16, 2016
tbaba1234:


Many were not truly under 20. It is not surprising that they fade by their late 20.

Taye Taiwo and Ogbuke had decent careers though. Isaac Promise has played decently in Turkey for a long time. Apam was constantly injured.

Nsofor was not at the world cup

Yeah true. Though Nsofor was nt at the world cup. He featured at the AYC. Siasia dropped him due to issues relating to transfers.U'll notice I didnt call them class of 2005 U20 WC bt class of 2005 U20.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by AIG07: 3:41pm On Jan 16, 2016
Nacho in the starting line up against Crystal Palace...
Go n do what u know how to do best...
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:58pm On Jan 16, 2016
Iheanacho has an assist Kun with the goal

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by tbaba1234: 6:54pm On Jan 16, 2016
Ndidi scored for genk, yesterday.. First senior goal... A tap in

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by jotey(m): 8:59am On Jan 18, 2016
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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:38pm On Jan 18, 2016
So Granada has been on another bad run and this time alot of regulars have been benched but Isaac Success still remain's for tonight.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:39pm On Jan 18, 2016
I love the fact Isaac The Beast keeps getting those 90-mins games week in and week out..... It's too bad Granada is on a poor run as a team.
When I saw it was Eibar tonight, I was like, "Oh gosh! Probably gonna be one of those games as Eibar are flying high in the la liga this season....."

But nonetheless, Great to see Isaac keep giving his best......... After all, he did it against Sevilla and other teams... And la liga is not over yet *smiles*

Honestly, I hope this is his last season at Granada.

Needs a more decent club environment to blossom.

I wanna see some good/decent clubs come for him in the summer.

BascoVanVeli:
So Granada has been on another bad run and this time alot of regulars have been benched but Isaac Success still remain's for tonight.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:20pm On Jan 18, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
I love the fact Isaac The Beast keeps getting those 90-mins games week in and week out..... It's too bad Granada is on a poor run as a team.
When I saw it was Eibar tonight, I was like, "Oh gosh! Probably gonna be one of those games as Eibar are flying high in the la liga this season....."

But nonetheless, Great to see Isaac keep giving his best......... After all, he did it against Sevilla and other teams... And la liga is not over yet *smiles*

Honestly, I hope this is his last season at Granada.

Needs a more decent club environment to blossom.

I wanna see some good/decent clubs come for him in the summer.


Losing like this is bad for one's health. I would like to see him in the french league stockpilling goals, maybe lyon or Monaco can pick him up.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by tbaba1234: 7:23am On Jan 19, 2016
Isaac Success and Ndidi made the correct transfer moves. They are playing regularly and improving daily. Young players need to forget money and seek development first. If yahaya favored belgium, Holland or even second divisions in Italy and Germany. He will be playing regularly.

Look at the careers of Nigerian young players that made it....Kanu- Ajax (holland), Babayaro- Anderlecht(Belgium), Oliseh - RFC Liège (belgium), Amokachi- Club Brugge (belgium), etc....

These men started in smaller leagues and built up. Iheanacho is a special talent and is the only exception. Look at Nwakali, he can't even play in the second division of spain. Imagine if he went to a club that actually wanted him not one that doesn't but probably accepted him on loan because of their man city relationship.

Kelechi Nwakali is now at Arsenal. There are several good talents that never made it at Arsenal. Zelalem for instance is a gem but he is playing second division in scotland on loan. We do not know where these boys will end up...

If i am an adviser to young players, i will tell them to forget money and go to a club that is ready to play them in the first team, focus everyday on improving and after 4-5 years, go to a bigger and more challenging club/league. Starting from the top can be counter productive and you can end up getting loaned to clubs that don't want you.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:09am On Jan 19, 2016
I kinda agree with you Sir based on these classifications I once drew up months ago last year...


The 3 pathways of young soccer talents today:

1). The Talents that start at a top/elite club and remain at that top/elite club or move to another top/elite club.
E.g. Lionel Messi (FC Barcelona), Andreas Iniesta (FC Barcelona), Michael Owen (Liverpool FC to the likes of Real Madrid and Man Utd), etc.
**seems Kelechi P. Iheanacho is falling into this class also**


2). The Talents that start at a top moderately decent side and move on to bigger sides (the top/elite clubs).
E.g. Kanu Nwankwo (Ajax Armsterdam to Arsenal FC), Celestine Babayaro (Anderlecht FC to Chelsea FC), etc.


3). The Talents that start at lowly rated sides (based on global scales) and move on to moderately big or bigger sides (the top decent and top-elite clubs).
E.g. John Mikel Obi (Lyn Oslo to Chelsea FC), Taiye Taiwo (Lobi Stars to Olympique Marseille), Robert Lewandoski (Lech Poznan to Borussia Dortmund to Bayern Munich), etc.

.........................................................................................


I really feel for Chidiebere Nwakali... He doesn't even make the bench at Girona. I think it's been once or twice I saw his name on their bench list on match days.

I'm glad Osimhen chose VFL Wolfsburg over Arsenal FC based on "strong feelers" that they wanted him more and are willing to give him great opportunities to keep developing and getting game time.


I also hope the likes of Kelechi Nwakali and Samuel Chukwueze have it good at Arsenal FC. I believe Arsenal wanted them if not they wouldn't have coughed out in little excess of £ 3-4 million for both players combined.

Can't wait to see Taiwo Awoniyi under Jurgen Klopp. But I'm worried he doesn't see enough games in the bundesliga 2.
Chidera Ezeh is still undergoing good development at FC Porto U-21s/U-19s.
Musa Mohammed is doing good too.

Ndidi and Success are super-regulars.

Well, hopefully, a new golden generation is slowly but steadily rising. *smiles*


tbaba1234:
Isaac Success and Ndidi made the correct transfer moves. They are playing regularly and improving daily. Young players need to forget money and seek development first. If yahaya favored belgium, Holland or even second divisions in Italy and Germany. He will be playing regularly.

Look at the careers of Nigerian young players that made it....Kanu- Ajax (holland), Babayaro- Anderlecht(Belgium), Oliseh - RFC Liège (belgium), Amokachi- Club Brugge (belgium), etc....

These men started in smaller leagues and built up. Iheanacho is a special talent and is the only exception. Look at Nwakali, he can't even play in the second division of spain. Imagine if he went to a club that actually wanted him not one that doesn't but probably accepted him on loan because of their man city relationship.

Kelechi Nwakali is now at Arsenal. There are several good talents that never made it at Arsenal. Zelalem for instance is a gem but he is playing second division in scotland on loan. We do not know where these boys will end up...

If i am an adviser to young players, i will tell them to forget money and go to a club that is ready to play them in the first team, focus everyday on improving and after 4-5 years, go to a bigger and more challenging club/league. Starting from the top can be counter productive and you can end up getting loaned to clubs that don't want you.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by tbaba1234: 8:41am On Jan 19, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
I kinda agree with you Sir based on these classifications I once drew up months ago last year...


The 3 pathways of young soccer talents today:

1). The Talents that start at a top/elite club and remain at that top/elite club or move to another top/elite club.
E.g. Lionel Messi (FC Barcelona), Andreas Iniesta (FC Barcelona), Michael Owen (Liverpool FC to the likes of Real Madrid and Man Utd), etc.
**seems Kelechi P. Iheanacho is falling into this class also**


2). The Talents that start at a top moderately decent side and move on to bigger sides (the top/elite clubs).
E.g. Kanu Nwankwo (Ajax Armsterdam to Arsenal FC), Celestine Babayaro (Anderlecht FC to Chelsea FC), etc.


3). The Talents that start at lowly rated sides (based on global scales) and move on to moderately big or bigger sides (the top decent and top-elite clubs).
E.g. John Mikel Obi (Lyn Oslo to Chelsea FC), Taiye Taiwo (Lobi Stars to Olympique Marseille), Robert Lewandoski (Lech Poznan to Borussia Dortmund to Bayern Munich), etc.

.........................................................................................


I really feel for Chidiebere Nwakali... He doesn't even make the bench at Girona. I think it's been once or twice I saw his name on their bench list on match days.

I'm glad Osimhen chose VFL Wolfsburg over Arsenal FC based on "strong feelers" that they wanted him more and are willing to give him great opportunities to keep developing and getting game time.


I also hope the likes of Kelechi Nwakali and Samuel Chukwueze have it good at Arsenal FC. I believe Arsenal wanted them if not they wouldn't have coughed out in little excess of £ 3-4 million for both players combined.

Can't wait to see Taiwo Awoniyi under Jurgen Klopp. But I'm worried he doesn't see enough games in the bundesliga 2.
Chidera Ezeh is still undergoing good development at FC Porto U-21s/U-19s.
Musa Mohammed is doing good too.

Ndidi and Success are super-regulars.

Well, hopefully, a new golden generation is slowly but steadily rising. *smiles*



Musa Muhammad is not doing good... He does not make the bench in the league. They only use him for cup games. I hope that changes.

The fact that Awoniyi is not even playing in the Bundesliga 2 is worrisome for his career. No way he will make the liverpool team if he can't make a division 2 team's bench.

Only outstanding players can walk into first team of top clubs, others have to work to reach that level.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 9:41am On Jan 19, 2016
tbaba1234:
Isaac Success and Ndidi made the correct transfer moves. They are playing regularly and improving daily. Young players need to forget money and seek development first. If yahaya favored belgium, Holland or even second divisions in Italy and Germany. He will be playing regularly.

Look at the careers of Nigerian young players that made it....Kanu- Ajax (holland), Babayaro- Anderlecht(Belgium), Oliseh - RFC Liège (belgium), Amokachi- Club Brugge (belgium), etc....

These men started in smaller leagues and built up. Iheanacho is a special talent and is the only exception. Look at Nwakali, he can't even play in the second division of spain. Imagine if he went to a club that actually wanted him not one that doesn't but probably accepted him on loan because of their man city relationship.

Kelechi Nwakali is now at Arsenal. There are several good talents that never made it at Arsenal. Zelalem for instance is a gem but he is playing second division in scotland on loan. We do not know where these boys will end up...

If i am an adviser to young players, i will tell them to forget money and go to a club that is ready to play them in the first team, focus everyday on improving and after 4-5 years, go to a bigger and more challenging club/league. Starting from the top can be counter productive and you can end up getting loaned to clubs that don't want you.

There is nothing wrong in young players starting from top clubs. See, game time is good but is not everything. Success for instance plays week in week out for Granada. Yes good game time but what is happening to his development? I personally feel Isaac Success is better than the club he currently plays for. Playing alongside bigger and better players brings out the best in a young player. The player develops faster.

Take a look at Iheanacho and Iwobi. They may nt be regulars for ManCity and Arsenal respectively but the little time they play u'll always see flashes of players that have been well drilled in training. On the field they do not carry too much responsibilities as they more usually provide support to the "bigger" players. This is quite different from a young player being in a mediocre team and shouldering big responsibilities such as what Success does for Granada. A list of 100 most talented young players was published and while Kelechi Iheanacho, Kelechi Nwakali and even Chuba Akpom (who to me is not better than Success) made the list Isaac Success was not on that list. I personally feel him being in Granada is dwarfing his potentials and recognition.

As for Wilfred Ndidi no issues as he is a defender. There development is not usually as rapid and as competitive as those of strikers.
And as for Kelechi Nwakali and Chukwueze being in Arsenal, I am not expecting them to break into the Arsenal first 11 even in 3yrs time. Why that move is good is bc of the Excellent development structure the Arsenal Academy has. A young player being in Barcelona or Arsenal academy is the best thing that can happen to that young footballer. Yes, not all graduates of the Arsenal system get to make it big, this is expected as Arsenal graduate players from the academy yearly definitely not all will be good enough for senior team action which is y a good number is sent on loan. So let Arsenal polish K. Nwakali and Chukwueze for us, if they are good enough for Arsenal senior Team fine else loan them out. No wahala.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06am On Jan 19, 2016
Icon4s:

Take a look at Iheanacho and Iwobi. They may nt be regulars for ManCity and Arsenal respectively but the little time they play u'll always see flashes of players that have been well drilled in training.

As for Chidiebere Nwakali and Awoniyi, they will get their chances. They are seriously affected by the English Work Permit structure. That is why I feel Coach Oliseh has a role in supporting our young players with Promising future.

In easy games, invite some. Give them few minutes on the field in games we are winning to cap them. With caps, their clubs can fight for their work permit.

Sometimes, clubs loan players and do not help develop them. The players are not seen as a responsibility to the clubs.

Nurturing of talents requires constant well drilled training. These boys get it in top clubs. Even if they do not make it in the top clubs, they are still seen as assets. Look at how Wenger values Welbeck.

That was why it was easy for Pogba who was not a regular for Manchester United to walk into Juventus first team.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:09am On Jan 19, 2016
Icon4s:


There is nothing wrong in young players starting from top clubs. See, game time is good but is not everything. Success for instance plays week in week out for Granada. Yes good game time but what is happening to his development? I personally feel Isaac Success is better than the club he currently plays for. Playing alongside bigger and better players brings out the best in a young player. The player develops faster.

Take a look at Iheanacho and Iwobi. They may nt be regulars for ManCity and Arsenal respectively but the little time they play u'll always see flashes of players that have been well drilled in training. On the field they do not carry too much responsibilities as they more usually provide support to the "bigger" players. This is quite different from a young player being in a mediocre team and shouldering big responsibilities such as what Success does for Granada. A list of 100 most talented young players was published and while Kelechi Iheanacho, Kelechi Nwakali and even Chuba Akpom (who to me is not better than Success) made the list Isaac Success was not on that list. I personally feel him being in Granada is dwarfing his potentials and recognition.

As for Wilfred Ndidi no issues as he is a defender. There development is not usually as rapid and as competitive as those of strikers.
And as for Kelechi Nwakali and Chukwueze being in Arsenal, I am not expecting them to break into the Arsenal first 11 even in 3yrs time. Why that move is good is bc of the Excellent development structure the Arsenal Academy has. A young player being in Barcelona or Arsenal academy is the best thing that can happen to that young footballer. Yes, not all graduates of the Arsenal system get to make it big, this is expected as Arsenal graduate players from the academy yearly definitely not all will be good enough for senior team action which is y a good number is sent on loan. So let Arsenal polish K. Nwakali and Chukwueze for us, if they are good enough for Arsenal senior Team fine else loan them out. No wahala.



I believe if Success was under a better coach and a better team, we would have seen an explosive talent.

I do not think Akpom is better than Success. I rate Success highly but his talent can not show if he stays at Granada.

Success to me is the next Suarez. I hope he gets to play under the right Coach.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:10am On Jan 19, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I believe if Success was under a better coach and a better team, we would have seen an explosive talent.

I do not think Akpom is better than Success. I rate Success highly but his talent can not show if he stays at Granada.

Success to me is the next Suarez. I hope he gets to play under the right Coach.

Spot on bro.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:32am On Jan 19, 2016
Icon4s:


Spot on bro.

I am still blown away by Isaac Success goal against Sporting Gijon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FVWztAfJKc
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by tbaba1234: 10:41am On Jan 19, 2016
Icon4s:


There is nothing wrong in young players starting from top clubs. See, game time is good but is not everything. Success for instance plays week in week out for Granada. Yes good game time but what is happening to his development? I personally feel Isaac Success is better than the club he currently plays for. Playing alongside bigger and better players brings out the best in a young player. The player develops faster.

Take a look at Iheanacho and Iwobi. They may nt be regulars for ManCity and Arsenal respectively but the little time they play u'll always see flashes of players that have been well drilled in training. On the field they do not carry too much responsibilities as they more usually provide support to the "bigger" players. This is quite different from a young player being in a mediocre team and shouldering big responsibilities such as what Success does for Granada. A list of 100 most talented young players was published and while Kelechi Iheanacho, Kelechi Nwakali and even Chuba Akpom (who to me is not better than Success) made the list Isaac Success was not on that list. I personally feel him being in Granada is dwarfing his potentials and recognition.

As for Wilfred Ndidi no issues as he is a defender. There development is not usually as rapid and as competitive as those of strikers.
And as for Kelechi Nwakali and Chukwueze being in Arsenal, I am not expecting them to break into the Arsenal first 11 even in 3yrs time. Why that move is good is bc of the Excellent development structure the Arsenal Academy has. A young player being in Barcelona or Arsenal academy is the best thing that can happen to that young footballer. Yes, not all graduates of the Arsenal system get to make it big, this is expected as Arsenal graduate players from the academy yearly definitely not all will be good enough for senior team action which is y a good number is sent on loan. So let Arsenal polish K. Nwakali and Chukwueze for us, if they are good enough for Arsenal senior Team fine else loan them out. No wahala.



Yes, Success is better than the club, he plays for but the development is obvious. Compare his first season to this one. Playing weekly with top class competition and his struggles with relegation will prepare him physically and mentally. He is ahead of all his mates including Iheanacho in terms of development.

The only reason, he is not being recognized is because he plays for Granada. Other la liga clubs are watching. Udinese is still his parent club so he might get his opportunity in seria A soon. I don't see Akpom making the grade at Arsenal. He reminds me of Afobe, another arsenal youth who was terrific in the academies.

Ndidi now plays as a DM. That is a competitive position. He starts every week. It is only a matter of time before he is snapped up but his experience as a regular starter puts him in a good position.

It is not just big teams that have excellent youth structures. Teams in Holland and Belgium also have good structures because they depend on academies for many of their players. Big teams can afford the biggest talents from their youth. The best Spanish youth players end up in Barca or Madrid's Academy but they can also get the best senior players for the 1st team. Competition is stiff. Many end up in lower leagues because the 1st team is loaded. Ajax, PSV, Porto, Anderlecht, club brugge etc are all renowned for good youth structures and the best youth players have a bigger chance of playing.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 10:54am On Jan 19, 2016
tbaba1234:


Yes, Success is better than the club, he plays for but the development is obvious. Compare his first season to this one. Playing weekly with top class competition and his struggles with relegation will prepare him physically and mentally. He is ahead of all his mates including Iheanacho in terms of development.

The only reason, he is not being recognized is because he plays for Granada. Other la liga clubs are watching. Udinese is still his parent club so he might get his opportunity in seria A soon. I don't see Akpom making the grade at Arsenal. He reminds me of Afobe, another arsenal youth who was terrific in the academies.

Ndidi now plays as a DM. That is a competitive position. He starts every week. It is only a matter of time before he is snapped up but his experience as a regular starter puts him in a good position.

It is not just big teams that have excellent youth structures. Teams in Holland and Belgium also have good structures because they depend on academies for many of their players. Big teams can afford the biggest talents from their youth. The best Spanish youth players end up in Barca or Madrid's Academy but they can also get the best senior players for the 1st team. Competition is stiff. Many end up in lower leagues because the 1st team is loaded. Ajax, PSV, Porto, Anderlecht, club brugge etc are all renowned for good youth structures and the best youth players have a bigger chance of playing.


Yeah sure, not only big Clubs have good youth structures but there is nothing wrong in a young player starting from Big Clubs especially if the young player is highly talented.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by tbaba1234: 10:58am On Jan 19, 2016
Many times, the best players in the academies disappear. Lupoli was scoring goals for fun in Academy games for Arsenal, he looked like the real deal but he could not make the grade. Never given the opportunity, faded out.

I would argue that Lupoli would have gotten the chances in the lower leagues in Belgium because his talent was obvious. He would have played many firsr team games. He might not reach the highest level but he would have become a better player if he was not playing academy football and loaned everywhere.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:09am On Jan 19, 2016
tbaba1234:
Many times, the best players in the academies disappear. Lupoli was scoring goals for fun in Academy games for Arsenal, he looked like the real deal but he could not make the grade. Never given the opportunity, faded out.

I would argue that Lupoli would have gotten the chances in the lower leagues in Belgium because his talent was obvious. He would have played many firsr team games. He might not reach the highest level but he would have become a better player if he was not playing academy football and loaned everywhere.

Their lots of young talents that disappear at Small Clubs too. Even more than those in Big clubs and you never hear their names.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by tbaba1234: 11:15am On Jan 19, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Their lots of young talents that disappear at Small Clubs too. Even more than those in Big clubs and you never hear their names.

The best youth players usually get into the first team in smaller teams. They get the chance. Man city have a lot of excellent young players but even some of the best might not get a real chance in the first team apart from cameo appearances.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by forgiveness: 1:24pm On Jan 19, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
I kinda agree with you Sir based on these classifications I once drew up months ago last year...


The 3 pathways of young soccer talents today:

1). The Talents that start at a top/elite club and remain at that top/elite club or move to another top/elite club.
E.g. Lionel Messi (FC Barcelona), Andreas Iniesta (FC Barcelona), Michael Owen (Liverpool FC to the likes of Real Madrid and Man Utd), etc.
**seems Kelechi P. Iheanacho is falling into this class also**


2). The Talents that start at a top moderately decent side and move on to bigger sides (the top/elite clubs).
E.g. Kanu Nwankwo (Ajax Armsterdam to Arsenal FC), Celestine Babayaro (Anderlecht FC to Chelsea FC), etc.


3). The Talents that start at lowly rated sides (based on global scales) and move on to moderately big or bigger sides (the top decent and top-elite clubs).
E.g. John Mikel Obi (Lyn Oslo to Chelsea FC), Taiye Taiwo (Lobi Stars to Olympique Marseille), Robert Lewandoski (Lech Poznan to Borussia Dortmund to Bayern Munich), etc.

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I really feel for Chidiebere Nwakali... He doesn't even make the bench at Girona. I think it's been once or twice I saw his name on their bench list on match days.

I'm glad Osimhen chose VFL Wolfsburg over Arsenal FC based on "strong feelers" that they wanted him more and are willing to give him great opportunities to keep developing and getting game time.


I also hope the likes of Kelechi Nwakali and Samuel Chukwueze have it good at Arsenal FC. I believe Arsenal wanted them if not they wouldn't have coughed out in little excess of £ 3-4 million for both players combined.

Can't wait to see Taiwo Awoniyi under Jurgen Klopp. But I'm worried he doesn't see enough games in the bundesliga 2.
Chidera Ezeh is still undergoing good development at FC Porto U-21s/U-19s.
Musa Mohammed is doing good too.

Ndidi and Success are super-regulars.

Well, hopefully, a new golden generation is slowly but steadily rising. *smiles*



Sir, I think Kanu Nwankwo belongs to the third class because he played for Iwuanyanwu Nationale before going to Europe.


Kelechi Nwakali will likely play for Arsenal-fc because he will be given work permits but Samuel doesn't fit into that special status hence he will be sent on loan.

Taiwo is wasting his time in that bundesliga 2 division because I don't think they will give him the chance to prove himself. Remember, Macualey Chrisantus wasted his time there. I pity Osimhen because of what Nigerian youth had experienced in the Bundesliga.

So far, Kelechi Iheanacho and Ndidi are on my list to the Olympics football games.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:33pm On Jan 19, 2016
tbaba1234:


The best youth players usually get into the first team in smaller teams. They get the chance. Man city have a lot of excellent young players but even some of the best might not get a real chance in the first team apart from cameo appearances.


Development of players does not lie in the 90 minutes player spend on the pitch but what they do in the Numerous hours they spend with their coaches and team mates.

That is why Pogba can go from a bencher at Man United to a star player at Juventus. That is why Morata can go from a bencher at Real Madrid to a top player at Juventus.

They are other ways of growing but youngsters having top notch training with top players and coaches lead to rapid development of their talent.

Look at Dennis Suarez at Villareal, Jonathan Dos Santos at Villareal, Thiago Alcantara at Bayern. These players developed fast not because of time playing 90 mins football but the countless hours on the training pitches.

Iwobi, Nacho can fit into top clubs despite limited playing time.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:56pm On Jan 19, 2016
Well, "good" is what we make it out to be. Success is a super regular but I insist he needs a better coach and good club environment to bring out the "real beast" in him. Until that happens, he's also not doing too good in my books. He's bigger than Granada... #fact.

Musa mohammed is not doing bad. He will get his time in the league. Every time he's played for Istanbul BB, he's shone.

tbaba1234:


Musa Muhammad is not doing good... He does not make the bench in the league. They only use him for cup games. I hope that changes.

The fact that Awoniyi is not even playing in the Bundesliga 2 is worrisome for his career. No way he will make the liverpool team if he can't make a division 2 team's bench.

Only outstanding players can walk into first team of top clubs, others have to work to reach that level.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:25pm On Jan 19, 2016
Yeah... If I consider his time at Iwuanyanwu Nationale (now Heartland FC), Kanu also falls into the third class.

As for Osimhen, I just hope the Wolfsburg crew keep their words pertaining to his development into a "worldie"...... One-time Chelsea reject KEVIN DE BRAINS..... Oops... Sorry... (I kinda prefer calling him that coz he's quite a super player) Kevin de bruyne went to Wolfsburg and was transformed into One of EUROPE'S FINEST PASS MASTERS AND ASSISTS MAKERS. He was Bundesliga MVP even in the presence of all those Big stars at Bayern. Little wonder Man City snapped him up and De Bruyne keeps getting better and better.

For the Olympics Team, Why only Iheanacho and Ndidi?

Doesn't Moses Simon, Success, and Iwobi catch your fancy?

Also, are you referring to the foreign based U-23 talents alone? What about the home-based like Etebo, Usman Mohammed and Emma Daniel?

#JustSaying *smiles*

forgiveness:


Sir, I think Kanu Nwankwo belongs to the third class because he played for Iwuanyanwu Nationale before going to Europe.


Kelechi Nwakali will likely play for Arsenal-fc because he will be given work permits but Samuel doesn't fit into that special status hence he will be sent on loan.

Taiwo is wasting his time in that bundesliga 2 division because I don't think they will give him the chance to prove himself. Remember, Macualey Chrisantus wasted his time there. I pity Osimhen because of what Nigerian youth had experienced in the Bundesliga.

So far, Kelechi Iheanacho and Ndidi are on my list to the Olympics football games.

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Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by forgiveness: 2:34pm On Jan 19, 2016
Icon4s:


Another member of the U20 class of 2005.
They let themselves and Nigeria down. They are nt even up to 30yrs and have all fizzled out. D likes of Taiye Taiwo, Onyekachi Apam, Dele Adeleye, Obinna Nsofor, Chinedu Ogbuke, Solomon Okoronkwo, Isaac Promise, Monday James all showed promises bt.... where are they today?Their only stand out player is Mikel Obi.

Taye Taiwo will be 31 this year and you know very well that he had a very successful career. Of course, we know Keshi snubbed him when he was at his prime for lesser players but it does not take anything away from Taye Taiwo. His club record shows that he is best left back Nigeria has ever produced.

Obinna Nsofor will be 29 this but he also had a descent career. Played for Inter Millan, Malaga and West Ham. It's not easy now. The thing is we had/have a lot of young strikers doing well. So, you don't expect us to notice him. He currently playing in 2 Bundesliga.

Chinedu Ogbuke : The boy is good but his body his weak hence not too good career. He will be 30 this year. He is a free agent.


Onyekachi Apam : He was also plagued by injury. He will be 30 this year. He is also a free agent.

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