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| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Nobody: 5:00am On Jan 20, 2016 |
Bible says that God is not man ‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19) ‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9) Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible ‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40) ‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22) ‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31) ‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Nobody: 9:26am On Jan 20, 2016 |
bRUH...bRUH....Your Bible is upside down. |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by OLAJADON: 12:11am On Jan 21, 2016 |
laurenziz6:eeyyyyaaaaa sorry you hear.....SO DID JESUS SAY YOU SHOULD WORSHIP HIM |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by OLAJADON: 12:32am On Jan 21, 2016 |
laurenziz6:Also read act 2:22, act 17:31, num 23:19 to confirm jesus his a man just like you and me the only diffrences is that he is a messenger...he didnt created himself or is he god the son N.B :- atleast your bible is written in english you wont have difficulty comprehending it....and if having any difficulty pm me....am always available to put you through |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by olarwhumy6(f): 12:53am On Jan 21, 2016 |
For example, Mr dele ojo nd Mrs bimbo ojo has a son called wale ojo. U could realise both bimbo ojo(the wife) nd wale(the son) are both bearing d fathers name(ojo). The three are family, they are one so as God the father, God the son and God the holy-spirit(blessed trinity) three in one. But d bond here is way stronger nd thicker than d ojos' (our example) |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by aminusanti(m): 4:05am On Jan 21, 2016 |
laurenziz6:I guess u r d most foolish Readthe post well my friend. |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by laurenziz6(m): 2:49pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
OLAJADON:ur hate is clouding your judgement |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by OLAJADON: 8:37pm On Jan 24, 2016 |
laurenziz6:this is not about hatred......it about what is in your fabricated bible with more than 5 version I WILL ALWAYS BE SAYING IT CHRISTIANITY IS A JOKE |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by johnw74: 5:57am On Jan 25, 2016 |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by laurenziz6(m): 11:49am On Jan 25, 2016 |
OLAJADON:lets agree to disagree |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by BIBLESPEAKS(m): 3:54pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
olarwhumy6:If Jesus is Almighty God... 1. Then why is "God head of Christ just as Christ is head of man"? (1 Cor. 11:3) 2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a separate person from God? (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.) 3. Then how can Jesus have a God? Could Almighty God have a God? (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12) 4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and is part of Creation? (Col. 1:15) 5. Then why does Rev. 3:14 say that Jesus is "the beginning of the creation of God"? 6. Then why is he subject to GOD, like we're subject to him? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28; Eph. 1:17) 7. Then why does Micah 5:2 say that Jesus' ORIGIN was “from early times”? 8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matt. 24:36, Rev.1:1; Luke 8:45) 9. Then why is Jesus still subject to God when he is as high as he will ever be? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28) 10. Then why does Proverbs 8:22-31 show that the Messiah was CREATED / PRODUCED by God? 11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1 Cor. 15:27, Eph. 1:17, 22) 12. Then why would he have to be given any power and authority? (Mt. 28:18; 11:27; Jn. 5:22; 17:2; 3:35; 2 Pet. 1:17) 13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Heb. 5:8; John 5:19; 8:28) 14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Mt. 12:31,32; Luke 12:10) 15. Then why did Jesus call the "Father...the only true God"? (John 17:3) 16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Heb. 5:7; John 12:27) 17. Then why did he have to be exalted to Leader and Savior? (Acts 5:31) 18. Then how could he be exalted and given a higher name than he had? (Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 1:2-4) 19. Then why did he have to be given life in himself? (John 5:25,26) 20. Then how can the Father be greater than he? (John 14:28) 21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan when God cannot be tempted with evil? (James 1:13) 22. Then why did he worship the Father? (John 4:22) 23. Then why can he not do anything on his own? (John 5:19; 6:38) 24. Then why would he pray to anybody? (Luke 22:44; John 17:1,2; Heb. 5:7) 25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1 John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's "only BEGOTTEN Son"? ASV 26. Then how can he be God's servant? (Acts 4:26,27,30) 27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43) 28. Then how could he be a mediator between God and man? (1 Tim. 2:5) 29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1) 30. Then how can he be God's image? (Col. 1:15; Heb. 1:3) 31. Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the Originator (ek)? (1 Cor. 8:6; John 1:1-3; Prov. 8:30; Heb. 2:10; Col. 1:15,16) 32. Then why did Jesus say GOD was "good" in a way that Jesus was not? (Mark 10:18) 33. Then why does he have an archangel's voice instead of God's voice? (1 Thess. 4:16) 34. Then why is the only "worship" given to him the same given to humans? (Heb. 1:6, cf. Mt. 18:26; Rev. 3:9 - "Proskuneo" 35. Then why do many who believe this rely on a few selected, so-called 'proof-texts' instead of the context of the consistent teaching of the entire Bible? 36. Then how could he be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49; Deut. 18:18) 37. Then why did Steven see two separate entities, GOD and Jesus, and not just one God or three persons? (Acts 7:55) 38. Then how could he be seen at GOD's right hand? (Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Rom. 8:34) 39. Then how could Jesus be exalted (not to become God Himself, but) to the position of the "right hand OF God"? (Acts 2:33) 40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God? (Rev.1:1) 41. Then why is he called God's "begotten" Son before he came to earth? (John 3:16; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:9) 42. Then how could he have a Father? (John 20:17) 43. Then how could he come in flesh? (1 Kings 8:27; Acts 17:24,25) 44. Then why did he not come in his own name? (John 5:41-44) 45. Then why did Jesus "come down from heaven to do" God's will and not his own will? (Luke 22:42; John 6:38; John 5:30; John 8:42) 46. Then how could he appear before GOD? (Heb. 9:24) 47. Then how could he die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Rom. 5:10; Acts 5:30; 1 Cor. 15:3; Hab.1:12; cf. 1 Tim. 6:16; Num. 23:19; Ps. 90:2; Dan. 6:25-26) 48. Then why is it that God resurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32) 49. Then why can we see him if "no man has seen God at any time"? (John 1:18) 50. Then why is there not one clear Scripture where Jesus is called "God the Son," (equal to those declaring "God, the Father)? 51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but neither the Jewish officials nor even one of these false witnesses made a claim that he was God or equally God? (Matt. 26:59-67) 52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe "that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God." Why is there is no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the most important thing of all - that Jesus is God? (John 20:31) 53. How could Jesus teach in the Jewish synagogues and the temple? This would never happen if any of the authorities believed he claimed to be God (or that his followers believed such a thing). - Matt. 26:55; John 7:14, 28. Matt. 4:23. 54. How could Jesus' followers teach in Jewish synagogues after Jesus' death and for the remainder of that first century (at least)? Again, this would not have been allowed if there were any suspicion that they believed Jesus to be God. Acts 9:20; 13:5, Acts 13:13-15. If the Holy Spirit is Almighty God... 1. Then why do quotes from Trinitarians admit that the Holy Spirit is not God but rather is a force from God? 2. Then why would Jews instructed in the Old Testament scriptures and in the teachings of John the Baptist, NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS? (Acts 19:2) 3. Then why isn't the Holy Spirit given equal description in the Bible? 4. Then why didn't Jesus ever teach that the Holy Spirit was God along with the Father and Son? 5. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as an "it"? (Is. 34:16 ASV, KJV; Numbers 11:17, 25 ASV, KJV, RSV, NRSV, AT, LB, NEB, REB, NAB, JB, NJB; and Romans 8:16, 26 in the KJV.) 6. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as a thing that can be poured out into portions? (Acts 2:17, 18, 33; Numbers 11:17, 25) 7. Then why is the holy spirit nameless and indistinguishable from all of the other holy spirits? 8. Then why did the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD disregard the Holy Spirit as a member of the Godhead when they made Jesus 'God' in 325 AD? Why did they wait until the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD to include the Holy Spirit in the formula? 9. Then wouldn't the water and blood be persons too according to Trinitarian reasoning and 1 John 5:8? 10. Then why is the Holy Spirit sandwiched between a list of QUALITIES at 2 Cor. 6:6? 11. Then why does the NT Greek Lexicon describes the Holy Spirit as "this" at Acts 2:33? 12. Then why is it that nowhere in the Bible is the Holy Spirit ever said to be an equal member of a trinity? 13. Then why is it that nowhere is it mentioned in the Bible the words, "God, the Holy Spirit," or "The Holy Spirit is God"? 14. Then why is it that there is never mentioned a vision, dream or clear description in scripture wherein God and the Holy Spirit are shown as the same person? If the Trinity Doctrine is a Bible teaching... 1. Then why do NUMEROUS encyclopedias agree that "... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity"? – p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D. 2. Then why do many encyclopedias, dictionaries and other sources (including Sir Isaac Newton) agree that the "Trinity was a pagan corruption imposed on Christianity in the fourth century by Athanasius"? 3. Then why does the Bible consistently identify God by singular person pronouns: "I, "Me," "He, and "Him" instead of "We", "Us", "They" or "Them"? 4. Then why does 2 Cor. 13:14 say that the Lord Jesus Christ is one individual, the Holy Spirit is another individual (whether a person or a thing), and that "GOD" IS ANOTHER DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL? 5. Then why is there not even one Scripture which clearly defines the Trinity? 6. Then why is there not even one Scripture of a vision, dream, or CLEAR description wherein God is shown as three persons? 7. Then why is there not even one Scripture where God is described using the word "three"? |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by LIBERTY1980(m): 4:50pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
May God forgive you @the poster, because you don't know what you are doing, You talk like an agent of darkness, you talk like someone, who has been blindfolded by satan; How can you say that Jesus is not God, Have you read John 1:1-14" The bible said there are three that bear record in heaven, and this three are one, God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost, Jesus was operating in two form during His earthly ministry, As a God and also As a humanbeing. I perceive that you are a controversy preacher. |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by LIBERTY1980(m): 5:09pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
Who soever that posted this topic; Jesus will use it to judge you on the last day; unless you repent, if not, my friend you are alreay condemned; because this post will be use to judge you on the judgement day; with this post you are already on your way to hell fire; Iam not judging you, but iam just telling you the fact; this thread is baseless. According to my own understanding; Nevertheless" I apologize for any invonvenience. |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Revelation15: 9:38am On Jan 28, 2016 |
mrphysics:THE SADDEST thing is that, God the father acknowledges His Son is God, why cant you heretics? I feel pity for you. |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Revelation15: 9:48am On Jan 28, 2016 |
i have only ONE STRONG REASON believe that Jesus is God. John 10:27-28 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life[i][/i], and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand Someone who is Eternal is God, no doubt on that. And we all know that you can't give someone something you don't have or capable of giving. My Question is How can Jesus give ETERNAL LIFE if He Himself is not Eternal? ![]() |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Revelation15: 10:06am On Jan 28, 2016 |
hockeyoilers:This hockeyoilers guy always misinterpret the bible and read it out of context, quoting verses to justify his prejudices. Matthew records Jesus quoting Isaiah 29:13 from the Septuagint (old Testament) when rebuking the Jews for replacing God’s commandments with their own. Matthew 15:6 ...Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. |
| Re: 5 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God! by Nwachex: 8:44am On Mar 12, 2017 |
malvisguy212:so u think u don't have the spirit of God in u... without that spirit u are as good as dead... so God's spirit is in everything human he created Revelation15: malvisguy212:so u think u don't have the spirit of God in u... without that spirit u are as good as dead... so God's spirit is in everything human he created |
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