₦airaland Forum

AtlanticBreeze:
when will Dakuku resume as governor?

modath:
Good morning, i won't go unearthing anything, I'm trained, but you know quite well your position till a couple of weeks ago... nuff said..

* i put it in quote so i can remove it, don't want that part quotable* thx.

TonyeBarcanista:
Exactly! I supported Wada instead of a recycled and failed clown called Audu. Was Audu any better?

I supported and even voted for Jimi. This man has a clean slate and lost due to some factors.

I supported and voted for Jonathan in the election because of some corrupt clowns using public funds to hijack a legitimate project, which I know that they'll one day seek to recoup. The 2016 budget proposal allocations is a good example(that's a different issue). However, it doesn't erode the deeds of Jonathan!


Beside, as a moderator you aren't supposed to be derailing threads.

Back to the matter puleeeeeeease

HopeAtHand:
God is the all knowing. Permutations and calculations have failed man once again. Wike and his supporters didnt expect this. We also didnt expect this either. Only God forsaw this.

By the way, face topic.

joseph1832:
In politics, you should know their are different behavior as regard how we react to political situations and occurrence, I believe mo to be liberal, or even moderate, I on the other hand, I'm radical. Lol.

There is no being calm when dealing with people, who make it their business to twist truths and distort facts, just to suit their twisted purpose.

modath:
Mo is a liberal radical (If such a word exists but MO is a "mama" as well & used to being temperate... Lil ones will force one to b calm by fire by force.

Let me also state that former president Goodluck Jonathan is not the only person nor the first to be tagged a buffoon. When British MP Sir Keir Starmer said“that(Donald Trump's behaviour) is not buffoonery, that is absolutely repugnant”,

MyMouth:
Abeg, abeg, abeg, don't even comper wada to audu!!!!! they are 2 worlds apart! Audu may be a thief but we kogite saw his hand work. No governor in the history of that state can be compered to him! you have continue to show u know nothing about the politics of other state outside rivers!

joseph1832:
Can you provide evidence as regard to the emboldened?

I believe now, we're now seeing that the same stuff you accuse some set of people of, was done by the set of people you support, at least you of all people know what is happening in the country now.

So Mr. Man, how can you be so double minded and double standard?

TonyeBarcanista:
Who is the you? What concerns me with what a public officer is called? Did I attack anyone whenevr they called him clueless? Abi you de hallucinate?

Tallesty1:
Typical of Nigerians.

They're free to call him a buffoon Because British MP said that Trump's actions were buffoonery?

Like seriously do you think the whites would keep quiet if a Nigerian dailies say that about one of their own?

This is my problem with people that perpetually feel inferior.

I never knew that Jonathan was that corrupt until now, in fact I never knew that Nigeria had such money considering the number of her citizens that live in penury but believe me bro, econowhatever they call themselves shouldn't have called him that.

It is just wrong, and it is worst to try to justify it because one MP said that Trump's action was worse than Buffoonery.


He was corrupt, still is but he's our own and we shall handle his shits accordingly. The economist should mind their business and stop meddling in our affairs.

If I was your employer, I would give you a month off cause you're exhausted already.

NgeneUkwenu:
What's all these attacks on Tonyebarcanista? Segun Oni, Rotimi Amaechi, Kwankwaso etal said worse about ACN, CPC but today, where are they? For the fact, he now sees reason to ditch his formers stand (if there was any contrary to his new freelance stand ) shouldn't warrant you following him everywhere on his thread to attack him....Barcanista I have come to know, is very patriotic, albeit, too "emotional and impatient (which the IPOB Youth exploited and tried to cage him though unsuccessfully)! Meanwhile, Barcanista, has been pro anti corruption since I knew him on Nairaland. He has been vocal and resolute in championing the cause of stamping out corruption in Nigeria, even when he seemed to be on the of the political divide. He has contributed a lot in deepening and enriching fruitful discussions on Nairaland and beyond. He Has his own shortcomings just lik everyone else but your recent attack on his person is uncalled for and well too IPOB Youthish..m

TonyeBarcanista:
"Audu may be a thief"

Now that is the crux of the matter. You admit that Audu was a thief(eveb Audu adnitted). So will you blame those in support of Wada for not supporting Audu? Do you knw the effect when a kobo is looted?

SenJoe:
Arrant nonsense.

joseph1832:
Oh you're a mother. Wow!.

Incorrect1:
Can you call Obama or George Bush the same name ?
No matter what, he was our president.
We all know how his administration looted the nation's fund but anybody whom hatred has not clouded his reasoning will condemn this act of public assault.
By the way, GEJ has not been found guilty of any form of loot.
Reason with your brain and not via your ass.

TonyeBarcanista:
Why are people blowing hot air because a globally recognise and reputable medium(the Economist) tagged former president Goodluck Jonathan an ineffectual buffoon within the context of anti-corruption? Can we please for a few moment reflect our mind back to the statement of the Economist and tell ourselves whether or not it was true?

"The government(of Buhari) has cracked down on corruption, which had flourished under the previous president, Goodluck Jonathan, an ineffectual buffoon who let politicians and their cronies fill their pockets with impunity."
(The Economist 28/01/2016)
Who can claim that corruption didn't flourish under Jonathan administration? What happened to Princess Stella Oduah and her N260million bullet-proof car scam? What happened to Alison Madueke that sold off NNPC jet meant for use of petroleum minister but allegedly spent a whopping N10billion of tax-payers' money on charter jet while the former President refused to probe the issue and even shielded her from house of representative probe in 2014? What happened to the Alhaji Abdulrasheed Maina, the former chairman of the Pension Reform Task Team the recovered and re-looted billions of naira of our poor pensioners? What happened to Steven Orasanya the former head of service indicted for looting billions? What happened to the oil subsidy thieves, Alison Madueke and all those indicted by Mallam Nuhu Ribadu led Petroleum Revenue Special Task Force that was set-up by Jonathan's government in 2012? What happened to comrade Abba Moro, the former interior minister that sent young Nigerians to their early grave after fleecing each of them of their hard-earned N1000 in the name of immigration recruitment? How do we explain the fact that under Goodluck Jonathan, former governors from all parties took corruption to the zenith with ex-Gov Amaechi telling Nigerians that they steal because we don't stone them? What was his reaction? What happened to the $2.2billion cash for arms deal, and the re-looted Abacha $370million loot? Who gave Olisah Metuh N400 million? Didn't Jonathan agree that some cabals are taking advantage of subsidy (without bringing them to book)? Should we dismiss that also? Should we go on? Did corruption not thrive under Goodluck Jonathan's leadership at all level?

If we agree with the above then why should we fault the Economist when even Jonathan supporters agree that corruption thrived in the last administration even though they are quick to say "Buhari's men are not saints" (which of course is correct).

No Insult Intended...
An ineffectual buffoon is simply someone with odd or ridiculous behaviour that doesn't produce desired effect or doesn't meet expectation

If we are to be fair, we won't call the ineffectual buffoon tag an insult on Jonathan especially when putting the war against corruption into context like the Economist did. That he carries a humble demeanour or conceded defeat does not erode the fact that he was ineffective in tackling corruption, though his concession of defeat is worth commendation. The truth must be said. In fact, many, even among those that claim to be his supporters and those from his Ijaw ethnic group have at one time or the other tagged the former president clueless. I sympathise with Jonathan but this is a cross that he should be prepare to bear.

He is Not The First To Be Called A Buffoon
Let me also state that former president Goodluck Jonathan is not the only person nor the first to be tagged a buffoon. When British MP Sir Keir Starmer said “that(Donald Trump's behaviour) is not buffoonery, that is absolutely repugnant”, Americans didn't spit fire, neither did Republicans spat fire when British MP Tom Tugendhat called Trump an insane.

Goodluck Jonathan's sympathisers and foot solders should understand that the former president belongs to the past just like his predecessors in office. His deeds and misdeeds as President Jonathan(not Mr. Jonathan) will always be talked about just like we keep talking about those of Shehu Shagari, Sani Abacha, Gen IBB, Maj Gen Buhari, Chief Obasanjo, late Yar'adua etc. Whether for good or for bad, he/they are being remembered by what they have done and what they failed to do- President Muhammadu Buhari won't be an exception when he leaves power.






May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria

joseph1832:
Bla bla bla. Of course wasn't it you TonyeBarcanista who came out and called GEJ your very own hero to the extent of giving him saint like status? And writing epistles about how awesome a leader Jonathan was? Remember the thread you created about how PMB was following the noble step of Jonathan when PMB reduced his salary or whatever?... Now you're here saying this, and saying that, throwing shades on him...

I'll say this, anybody who believe TonyeBarcanista does so at his or her own risk!.

Now, to the thread, personally, I really couldn't give a rats pudenda what the Economist called Jonathan. I know that when gay marriage was legalized in the U.S, and Obama gave his support of it, many Nigerians threw insults at him. So I wonder why people are now voicing out their worthless and narrow minded opinions about this. Its okay for you to insult another man's president and not okay for that man to insult your's?

Lest we forget, "opinions are like butt holes, everybody has one" so why should I bother myself because a dude insulted former president Jonathan when I now we have actually done worse. Or weren't we the ones who insulted our former president to the point that he was named "the most insulted president on facebook?". LOL.

Well anyway, I don't need the economist to tell me what Jonathan is or isn't, because I know, any man who can't control or coordinate his wife, is a classic woman wrapper!.

joseph1832:
Bla bla bla. Of course wasn't it you TonyeBarcanista who came out and called GEJ your very own hero to the extent of giving him saint like status? And writing epistles about how awesome a leader Jonathan was? Remember the thread you created about how PMB was following the noble step of Jonathan when PMB reduced his salary or whatever?... Now you're here saying this, and saying that, throwing shades on him...

I'll say this, anybody who believe TonyeBarcanista does so at his or her own risk!.

Now, to the thread, personally, I really couldn't give a rats pudenda what the Economist called Jonathan. I know that when gay marriage was legalized in the U.S, and Obama gave his support of it, many Nigerians threw insults at him. So I wonder why people are now voicing out their worthless and narrow minded opinions about this. Its okay for you to insult another man's president and not okay for that man to insult your's?

Lest we forget, "opinions are like butt holes, everybody has one" so why should I bother myself because a dude insulted former president Jonathan when I now we have actually done worse. Or weren't we the ones who insulted our former president to the point that he was named "the most insulted president on facebook?". LOL.

Well anyway, I don't need the economist to tell me what Jonathan is or isn't, because I know, any man who can't control or coordinate his wife, is a classic woman wrapper!.

NgeneUkwenu:
What's all these attacks on Tonyebarcanista? Segun Oni, Rotimi Amaechi, Kwankwaso etal said worse about ACN, CPC but today, where are they? For the fact, he now sees reason to ditch his formers stand (if there was any contrary to his new freelance stand ) shouldn't warrant you following him everywhere on his thread to attack him....Barcanista I have come to know, is very patriotic, albeit, too "emotional and impatient (which the IPOB Youth exploited and tried to cage him though unsuccessfully)! Meanwhile, Barcanista, has been pro anti corruption since I knew him on Nairaland. He has been vocal and resolute in championing the cause of stamping out corruption in Nigeria, even when he seemed to be on the side of the political divide. He has contributed a lot in deepening and enriching fruitful discussions on Nairaland and beyond. He Has his own shortcomings just lik everyone else but your recent attack on his person is uncalled for and well too IPOB Youthish..m

TonyeBarcanista:
Exactly! I supported his election not his buffoonery


I will always maintain that for the fact that I support a candidate in an election does not mean that I won't bare my mind about him whenever such opportunity arise. If as far back as 2012 and 2013 I can protest in Ojota and calling for Oduah's ouster/prosecution despite voting for him in 2011, I tell you I would have done worse if he was re-elected and the Dasuki-gate was brought to light.


BTW: Did you notice that all through the campaign period I used this phrase "we can change within the PDP"? If not piss off... If yes, still piss off

TonyeBarcanista:
[s]Why are people blowing hot air because a globally recognise and reputable medium(the Economist) tagged former president Goodluck Jonathan an ineffectual buffoon within the context of anti-corruption? Can we please for a few moment reflect our mind back to the statement of the Economist and tell ourselves whether or not it was true?

"The government(of Buhari) has cracked down on corruption, which had flourished under the previous president, Goodluck Jonathan, an ineffectual buffoon who let politicians and their cronies fill their pockets with impunity."
(The Economist 28/01/2016)
Who can claim that corruption didn't flourish under Jonathan administration? What happened to Princess Stella Oduah and her N260million bullet-proof car scam? What happened to Alison Madueke that sold off NNPC jet meant for use of petroleum minister but allegedly spent a whopping N10billion of tax-payers' money on charter jet while the former President refused to probe the issue and even shielded her from house of representative probe in 2014? What happened to the Alhaji Abdulrasheed Maina, the former chairman of the Pension Reform Task Team the recovered and re-looted billions of naira of our poor pensioners? What happened to Steven Orasanya the former head of service indicted for looting billions? What happened to the oil subsidy thieves, Alison Madueke and all those indicted by Mallam Nuhu Ribadu led Petroleum Revenue Special Task Force that was set-up by Jonathan's government in 2012? What happened to comrade Abba Moro, the former interior minister that sent young Nigerians to their early grave after fleecing each of them of their hard-earned N1000 in the name of immigration recruitment? How do we explain the fact that under Goodluck Jonathan, former governors from all parties took corruption to the zenith with ex-Gov Amaechi telling Nigerians that they steal because we don't stone them? What was his reaction? What happened to the $2.2billion cash for arms deal, and the re-looted Abacha $370million loot? Who gave Olisah Metuh N400 million? Didn't Jonathan agree that some cabals are taking advantage of subsidy (without bringing them to book)? Should we dismiss that also? Should we go on? Did corruption not thrive under Goodluck Jonathan's leadership at all level?

If we agree with the above then why should we fault the Economist when even Jonathan supporters agree that corruption thrived in the last administration even though they are quick to say "Buhari's men are not saints" (which of course is correct).

No Insult Intended...
An ineffectual buffoon is simply someone with odd or ridiculous behaviour that doesn't produce desired effect or doesn't meet expectation

If we are to be fair, we won't call the ineffectual buffoon tag an insult on Jonathan especially when putting the war against corruption into context like the Economist did. That he carries a humble demeanour or conceded defeat does not erode the fact that he was ineffective in tackling corruption, though his concession of defeat is worth commendation. The truth must be said. In fact, many, even among those that claim to be his supporters and those from his Ijaw ethnic group have at one time or the other tagged the former president clueless. I sympathise with Jonathan but this is a cross that he should be prepare to bear.

He is Not The First To Be Called A Buffoon
Let me also state that former president Goodluck Jonathan is not the only person nor the first to be tagged a buffoon. When British MP Sir Keir Starmer said “that(Donald Trump's behaviour) is not buffoonery, that is absolutely repugnant”, Americans didn't spit fire, neither did Republicans spat fire when British MP Tom Tugendhat called Trump an insane.

Goodluck Jonathan's sympathisers and foot solders should understand that the former president belongs to the past just like his predecessors in office. His deeds and misdeeds as President Jonathan(not Mr. Jonathan) will always be talked about just like we keep talking about those of Shehu Shagari, Sani Abacha, Gen IBB, Maj Gen Buhari, Chief Obasanjo, late Yar'adua etc. Whether for good or for bad, he/they are being remembered by what they have done and what they failed to do- President Muhammadu Buhari won't be an exception when he leaves power.






May God Bless Us All and Bless Nigeria[/s]

Mynd44:
Please spare us.

Your support for Idris Wada, Agbaje, and GEJ has more than proven that you dont have Nigeria's interest but that of your party

CaaseStudy:
Tufiakwa... I have never seen a more inconsistent and two sided fellow like Mr OP. In the space of 3years this guy has being going back and forth. Today he is for buhariand cpc tomorrow jonathan and pdp, next ..... Mtchew speaks volumes about his character. Reminds me of datolee, i missd that guy walahi

modath:
Of many , both biological & by circumstances..

joseph1832:
Can you provide evidence as regard to the emboldened?

I believe now, we're now seeing that the same stuff you accuse some set of people of, was done by the set of people you support, at least you of all people know what is happening in the country now.

So Mr. Man, how can you be so double minded and double standard?

TonyeBarcanista:
Who is the you? What concerns me with what a public officer is called? Did I attack anyone whenevr they called him clueless? Abi you de hallucinate?